Cain: The Democrats might be trying to take me down because I’m their worst nightmare and they’d rather face Gingrich

posted at 7:56 pm on November 30, 2011 by Allahpundit

Makes sense. Who wouldn’t rather face a skilled debater and policy wonk with lots of government experience than a neophyte who sometimes has trouble stating the conservative line against abortion? Skip ahead to 8:30 of the first clip and keep watching through the first two minutes or so of the second. The best part is when he speculates that people have to resort to smear tactics because they can’t make anything stick when they attack him on … foreign policy. Here’s the map from the foreign-policy section of his website, by the way.

If you lost track of whether he’s staying in or getting out of the race, here’s how things have played out over the last 24 hours. Last night, Mark Block said there’s “no way he’s dropping out.” Then today Cain told reporters, “We are reassessing and reevaluating.” Then he got up onstage in Dayton and declared that “The American people are going to raise some Cain in 2012!” and that, while some people may want him to drop out, “The American people have a different idea.” Then he sat down with Cavuto and said he’ll decide whether to quit or not over the next week. That’s just the sort of uncertainty wealthy donors want to hear, I’m sure. Allen West told a radio show this morning that it’s time for Cain to pack it in and quit being a distraction to the rest of the field, a sentiment that seemed to be shared (but not explicitly echoed) by several Republican governors at today’s RGA meeting. NBC asks a good question, though:

What does Cain have to gain by getting out of the GOP presidential race? A future political career? A vice-presidential nomination? You could make the case that by staying in the race – and having some positive debate performances down the stretch – Cain could return to the candidate he was back in August (that is, someone who’s on the stage, who can deliver some memorable lines and is likeable, but who isn’t a threat to win in Iowa or anywhere else).

Yeah, but what does he gain by staying in, especially if there’s a risk of more accusers coming forward? His home life must be suffering from all this and that’ll only make it worse. The only reason I can think of to stick it out is that he’s angling for a show on Fox News a la Huckabee or some similar media platform after the campaign’s over and leaving the race under a cloud of suspicion might hurt his chances at a contract. I don’t think he has to worry — in a world where Client Number Nine can anchor CNN’s primetime line-up, Cain should be just fine — but it probably helps his marketability to persevere, deny everything, and blame the Democrats and the media for being smear machines. Then again, the greater the number of accusers, the more people will wonder about him and the less marketable he’ll be. If he drops out now, media interest in him will evaporate and, probably, so will the chance of new allegations. Tough call. Exit question via Cavuto: If this really is a smear machine at work, how come none of the other candidates have been targeted?



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Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt…

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Hedy Lamarr!

carbon_footprint on November 30, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Yikes. Clad I got off the Cain train.

andy85719 on November 30, 2011 at 8:01 PM

painful.

sesquipedalian on November 30, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Maybe a cabinet spot? Treasury? Or head of the Fed?

rbj on November 30, 2011 at 8:03 PM

that map is breathtakingly epic.

Anton on November 30, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Maybe a cabinet spot? Treasury? Or head of the Fed?

rbj on November 30, 2011 at 8:03 PM

no

equanimous on November 30, 2011 at 8:06 PM

I don’t think the Democrats are this guy’s biggest problem.

lexhamfox on November 30, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Ok folks. The Libs and MSM (redundant) have knocked out a conservative with zip, zero, nada proof. Has Barry had ANY such a anal exam? Some may rejoice because their “person” is still in the race. Guess what: your “person” is next on the Dim list for destruction.

Dingbat63 on November 30, 2011 at 8:08 PM

that map is breathtakingly epic.

Anton on November 30, 2011 at 8:03 PM

+1

Very in depth and just what we have come to expect from Herman.

sharrukin on November 30, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Here’s the map from the foreign-policy section of his website, by the way.</blockquoHere’s the map from the foreign-policy section of his website, by the way.

I’m starting to believe that Cain is the most brilliant satirist alive. If I saw that map at The Onion, I would laugh at what a clever caricature it was of the oft alleged conseravtive simplemindedness.

Kataklysmic on November 30, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Kataklysmic on November 30, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Oops. Messed up the quote.

Kataklysmic on November 30, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Regarding the map, I’d expect better geo-political descriptions from a 6th grade pop quiz.

Nessuno on November 30, 2011 at 8:13 PM

Hedy Lamarr!

carbon_footprint on November 30, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Not Hedy, Hedley!

darwin-t on November 30, 2011 at 8:14 PM

That map. Oh my.

I’m saying a prayer for Herman Cain’s brain right now.

SlaveDog on November 30, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Herm, its time to come back to Atlanta. I’m tired of Erick Erickson’s hybrid Daffy Duck/ Porky Pig voice.

Lawdawg86 on November 30, 2011 at 8:17 PM

AP, I think Allen West clarified that he wasn’t asking Cain to drop out of the race today. You can find that in one of his tweets.

milemarker2020 on November 30, 2011 at 8:17 PM

His occasional verbal/debate stumbles aside, along with the accusations, it’s interesting to see who the left and the lsm (forgive the redundancy) go after the hardest:

Sarah Palin–Conservative Woman

Michelle Bachmann–Conservative Woman

Herman Cain–Conservative Black

predator on November 30, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Exit question via Cavuto: If this really is a smear machine at work, how come none of the other candidates have been targeted?

OH Puleeeese. None of the other candidates have been targeted? Bachman, Palin, The Newt, Perry?

Ya know, smokin’ that weed is bad for your memory.

Skandia Recluse on November 30, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Ok folks. The Libs and MSM (redundant) have knocked out a conservative with zip, zero, nada proof. Has Barry had ANY such a anal exam? Some may rejoice because their “person” is still in the race. Guess what: your “person” is next on the Dim list for destruction.

Dingbat63 on November 30, 2011 at 8:08 PM

The liberals didn’t make him not know what the right of return is. The liberals didn’t make him say he’d trade all the hostages at Gitmo for one American solider. The MSM didn’t make him say his China quote. The MSM didn’t make him have that long painful pause on Libya.

If he only had the unfounded allegations – yeah I would say he’s getting a raw deal but he is not prepared to be POTUS and that is his own doing.

gophergirl on November 30, 2011 at 8:19 PM

milemarker2020 on November 30, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Cain should have dropped out last month-right after he accused the Perry camp of leaking the NRA crap to politico.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 8:20 PM

OH Puleeeese. None of the other candidates have been targeted? Bachman, Palin, The Newt, Perry?

Ya know, smokin’ that weed is bad for your memory.

With false sex allegations? No, none of them. Cavuto’s point is that Cain keeps glibly suggesting that it wouldn’t be so hard to find five or six women to false accuse him of stuff since he’s met thousands and thousands of people during his career. Well, so has everyone else who’s running. Where are the false accusations against them?

Allahpundit on November 30, 2011 at 8:21 PM

predator on November 30, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Me and my makos love ya , Man-but Cain’s biggest problem ain’t the left-it’s Herman Cain.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Rachel Maddow, had described Cain’s campaign on her program on MSNBC as “Performance Art” weeks ago……It’s possible she called it for what it is a “show”.

Dr Evil on November 30, 2011 at 8:24 PM

OK the messaging dissonance is starting to sound a bit delusional now:

I’m thinking about quitting…I’m NOT quitting.
I’m thinking about quitting…I’m NOT quitting…I’m thinking about quitting…

Or, am I the only one coming away with this impression?

Hermie, I’m afraid it’s time to make the doughnuts.
I mean the Pizzas.

Shirotayama on November 30, 2011 at 8:24 PM

“Canada: Friend and Ally”

Chickenhawk! I hope he’s just trying to lull those no-good syrup-suckers into a sense of complacency. <__>

Lawdawg86 on November 30, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Oh dear Lord that map

gophergirl on November 30, 2011 at 8:25 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 8:20 PM

I am glad it’s not your decision as to whether he should stay or go in the race. Why dwell on that? I’m not calling for Perry to leave the race, so why should Cain? If he’s the brain dead fart that people like Alllaphundit believes he is then there’s nothing to worry about.

I suspect that those that want Cain to leave the race want him to because they know he is still viable. After all, despite an endless assault on his character he remains in the top three in all the polls. So his core support is very strong.

But I’m not calling for anyone to get out of the race, least of all Cain. There’s still no evidence from any of Cain’s accusers of anything they say he’s done. NONE. Just a bunch of smoke.

milemarker2020 on November 30, 2011 at 8:26 PM

A derailed train is still better than a gold plated billion dollar polished turd.

tjexcite on November 30, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Me and my makos love ya , Man-but Cain’s biggest problem ain’t the left-it’s Herman Cain.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 8:22 PM

xoxo’s right back at you and the mako’s twerp, and he has been his own worst enemy in many instances. But Newt, Rick, Mitt, et al. have not endured anything like the three I mentioned–yet.

The eventual nominee will endure it, of course.

You know as well as anyone here that the only conservative the left wants to see as our leader is a white male. It fits the model they want to portray our side as embracing.

predator on November 30, 2011 at 8:28 PM

milemarker2020 on November 30, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Perry has run a sucky campaign. I doubt he’ll last past Iowa.
No biggie.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 8:30 PM

With false sex allegations? No, none of them. Cavuto’s point is that Cain keeps glibly suggesting that it wouldn’t be so hard to find five or six women to false accuse him of stuff since he’s met thousands and thousands of people during his career. Well, so has everyone else who’s running. Where are the false accusations against them?

Allahpundit on November 30, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Because there is the decade old SH claim that is documented, even if it was most likely baseless, it gives a platform for the “Cain the Womanizer” meme… and sex sells, it’s a he said she said.

kringeesmom on November 30, 2011 at 8:30 PM

predator on November 30, 2011 at 8:28 PM

I wanted Bobby Jindal-but he wanted to get reelected by a landslide in LA instead.
*pout*

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 8:32 PM

No AP: why wouldn’t the DC-NY elitist establishment prefer to eliminate all but those who have spent time in their space- like Gingrich and Romney. Perry is ‘stupid’, Cain is a ‘skirt-chaser’ (ignore Newt’s actual history), Bachmann is whacky. All are unacceptable by the ‘right’ people; the same people who have spent decades driving our government over the cliff, no matter which side of them has been in charge.

michaelo on November 30, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Not Hedy, Hedley!

darwin-t on November 30, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Well done!

carbon_footprint on November 30, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Wow, pretty pathetic.

Paranoia much?

He’s preparing for the “family” exit. Like Palin did.

stenwin77 on November 30, 2011 at 8:32 PM

and sex sells, it’s a he said she said.

kringeesmom on November 30, 2011 at 8:30 PM

And the fact that he is a Republican nobody cares what he says.

darwin-t on November 30, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Allahpundit on November 30, 2011 at 8:21 PM

So labeling Bachman mentally unbalanced, Perry some kinda boob, Gingrich corrupt, Palin …uh..everything. is different because Cain’s smear is an ALLEGATION with sexual implications. What’s with it with you and sex? and the left, and sex and money. There are too many democrats to list but the slightest accusation, slightest hint is enough to pillory a republican while letting the democrats ignore their vices.

There is just no way to satisfy you. You’re like a woman, facts don’t matter, logic doesn’t matter, you’re a woman and that makes you right because the man is always wrong. Or you are a democrat, or a lawyer. You get to choose what rules apply, when they apply and to whom they apply because all that matters is you win your point.

I really don’t take you seriously any more, pundit, you are becoming a joke. You laugh about how the democrat smear machine is serially targeting the GOP front runner and you want to defend your point here? Your audacity is awesum, dude.

Skandia Recluse on November 30, 2011 at 8:34 PM

gophergirl on November 30, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Can’t argue with you. My point was that folks that are celebrating the Cain Train derail, will whine like stuck pigs when the Libs take on their candidate. It’s like hyenas taking out the weak until they get to the head of the pack…and they WILL get to the head of the pack.

Dingbat63 on November 30, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Cain needs to appear on Dancing with the Stars before leaving the scene.

Electrongod on November 30, 2011 at 8:36 PM

I wanted Bobby Jindal-but he wanted to get reelected by a landslide in LA instead.
*pout*

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 8:32 PM

His time may still come. I like him a lot. Not a real dynamic personality (yes, unfortunately that matters as much as issues), but a proven leader and a “doer.”

predator on November 30, 2011 at 8:36 PM

So labeling Bachman mentally unbalanced, Perry some kinda boob, Gingrich corrupt, Palin …uh..everything. is different because Cain’s smear is an ALLEGATION with sexual implications. What’s with it with you and sex? and the left, and sex and money. There are too many democrats to list but the slightest accusation, slightest hint is enough to pillory a republican while letting the democrats ignore their vices.

There is just no way to satisfy you. You’re like a woman, facts don’t matter, logic doesn’t matter, you’re a woman and that makes you right because the man is always wrong. Or you are a democrat, or a lawyer. You get to choose what rules apply, when they apply and to whom they apply because all that matters is you win your point.

I really don’t take you seriously any more, pundit, you are becoming a joke. You laugh about how the democrat smear machine is serially targeting the GOP front runner and you want to defend your point here? Your audacity is awesum, dude.

Skandia Recluse on November 30, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Hey now, don’t talk about us lady folk that way.

RachDubya on November 30, 2011 at 8:37 PM

If this really is a smear machine at work, how come none of the other candidates have been targeted?

All in good time. At least, that’s my current theory. It’s not that Cain is some super-powerful awesome threat, but that they’re going to smear any candidate who starts to gain traction. In Cain’s case, they needed some baggage. For Gingrich, Romney, and Perry, they already have their attack lines planned. Of course, for Romney they want to hold their fire for now in hopes he gets the nomination

didymus on November 30, 2011 at 8:38 PM

So labeling Bachman mentally unbalanced, Perry some kinda boob, Gingrich corrupt, Palin …uh..everything. is different because Cain’s smear is an ALLEGATION with sexual implications. What’s with it with you and sex? and the left, and sex and money. There are too many democrats to list but the slightest accusation, slightest hint is enough to pillory a republican while letting the democrats ignore their vices
Skandia Recluse on November 30, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Oh come on. Perry has screwed up in the debates again and again. Can you imagine him debating The communist in the WH?

stenwin77 on November 30, 2011 at 8:38 PM

Allahpundit on November 30, 2011 at 8:21 PM

I have to believe that you are pretending to be obtuse about this, because I know you can’t be this amateurish when it comes to politics. He is getting these accusations because of the flap over the allege sexual harassment claims while he was at the NRA. This smear campaign is meant to build off of that.

The worst lies are based on half-truths. Yes, its true he was accused of sexual harassment and that the women who accused him were given nuisance settlements as part of their severance packages. But was has never been established is what Cain did. When that didn’t fly (as far as the polls are concerned), Gloria Allred drags out some lady accusing Cain of essentially sexual assault. Again no evidence, but the accusation gets wide play. Now, you have a woman coming out talking about an affair. She provides no real evidence to show that Cain had a promiscuous relationship with her. None. But it gets wide play. This is a smear campaign.

Now if you are all for this because you don’t like Cain, fine. But don’t pretend any of this is legitimate. We’ve seen allegations with evidence before. We’ve seen real money settled by candidates to women who have accused them of things. We’ve seen candidates, especially on the Right who have folded shop on an allegation that they knew was true. But Cain has steadfastly denied ALL of these allegations.

Why should I question his integrity and his credibility in favor of those women who provided no evidence and didn’t come out with these accusations until Cain was at the top of the polls?

milemarker2020 on November 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

I wanted Bobby Jindal-but he wanted to get reelected by a landslide in LA instead.
*pout*

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 8:32 PM

If/when Perry completely implodes, how long of your “I’d rather stay home than vote for” list grown to be? We all know Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, and Herman Cain are on the list– have any of the other candidates fallen as far in your eyes?

RachDubya on November 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Oh dear Lord that map

gophergirl on November 30, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Don’t worry about it. If elected, he’ll have a whole group of experts around to make him a better map. I assume Mark Block will be their leader.

a capella on November 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

predator on November 30, 2011 at 8:36 PM

He’s all of 40.
Wow.
*swoon*

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 8:41 PM

RachDubya on November 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Cain won’t be the nominee-nor will Ron Paul.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 8:42 PM

The only reason I can think of to stick it out is that he’s angling for a show on Fox News a la Huckabee or some similar media platform after the campaign’s over and leaving the race under a cloud of suspicion might hurt his chances at a contract.

I think he’s hoping for a cameo role in the sequel to Pootie Tang.

Cole me on the panny sty. Sa da tay.

SlaveDog on November 30, 2011 at 8:42 PM

SlaveDog on November 30, 2011 at 8:42 PM

sa da tay…

equanimous on November 30, 2011 at 8:44 PM

is time may still come. I like him a lot. Not a real dynamic personality (yes, unfortunately that matters as much as issues), but a proven leader and a “doer.”

predator on November 30, 2011 at 8:36 PM

So is Rick Perry, whom Jindal endorses.

Common Sense on November 30, 2011 at 8:44 PM

He’s all of 40.
Wow.
*swoon*

annoyinglittletwerp on November 30, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Steady girl, steady. :)

predator on November 30, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Why should I question his integrity and his credibility…

milemarker2020 on November 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

He has lied several times on the issue, about what he knew and he has played the Clinton verbal dodge game with his denials/not-denials. A few times and you could give him a pass, not when there are six allegations with proof including two prior settlements on the issue. Its not believable anymore.

sharrukin on November 30, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Don’t worry about it. If elected, he’ll have a whole group of experts around to make him a better map. I assume Mark Block will be their leader.

a capella on November 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

If a kid in Junior High would submit a map like that as a Political Science class assignment – it would be lucky to get a C.

This guy has had over 10 million dollars contributed to his campaign???

OY!

gophergirl on November 30, 2011 at 8:47 PM

So is Rick Perry, whom Jindal endorses.

Common Sense on November 30, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Granted. I’m mixed on Perry. The “heartless” thing really turned me off, but the “foreign aid starts at zero until we talk” thing intrigued me. I like that. My main concern is him on the debate stage versus Zero. The debate game will be stacked against our side, regardless of who the nominee is, and he’s not real strong there.

predator on November 30, 2011 at 8:49 PM

If a kid in Junior High would submit a map like that as a Political Science class assignment – it would be lucky to get a C.

This guy has had over 10 million dollars contributed to his campaign???

gophergirl on November 30, 2011 at 8:47 PM

http://lubswww.leeds.ac.uk/uploads/pics/Facebook_world_02.JPG

They just opened up this map in a graphics program and added some words and lines.

I think a C in Political Science class might be pushing it.

sharrukin on November 30, 2011 at 8:52 PM

You are so negative on Herman Cain that I don’t even read your stuff any more. You are starting to piss me off.

Herman Cain isn’t running as the expert on everything, but as a guide for his team of experts. No CEO knows every detail of every aspect of his company’s work, but gives a team direction.

I believe he would be a much more inspirational leader than the dorky Newt.

phillypolitics on November 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Cain is black, and of all the Republican candidates, he is the one that Obama would fear most in an election. Regardless of Cain’s knowledge, skills and abilities, when “voters of color” are given a CHOICE of “candidates of color”, the pernicious effects of race politics is netted out to zero.

Since the NY Times article about Obama kicking white voters to the curb, this face-off would leave the President in a most untenable position.

grumpy_old_soldier on November 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

http://lubswww.leeds.ac.uk/uploads/pics/Facebook_world_02.JPG

They just opened up this map in a graphics program and added some words and lines.

I think a C in Political Science class might be pushing it.

sharrukin on November 30, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Oh my – that makes it even worse!

gophergirl on November 30, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Progressives hate women and blacks…..that’s why they support Abortion!!!

Who are the two biggest groups hurt by it ????

PappyD61 on November 30, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Herman Cain isn’t running as the expert on everything, but as a guide for his team of experts. No CEO knows every detail of every aspect of his company’s work, but gives a team direction.

I believe he would be a much more inspirational leader than the dorky Newt.

phillypolitics on November 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

So he’s Obama with a different advisor team?

sharrukin on November 30, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Herman Cain isn’t running as the expert on everything, but as a guide for his team of experts. No CEO knows every detail of every aspect of his company’s work, but gives a team direction.

I believe he would be a much more inspirational leader than the dorky Newt.

phillypolitics on November 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

I’m not electing his experts – I’m electing him. If he doesn’t know this basic stuff, how can I trust that he will hire someone who does?

This isn’t a boardroom – this is the leader of the free world we are deciding here.

gophergirl on November 30, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Herman Cain isn’t running as the expert on everything, but as a guide for his team of experts. No CEO knows every detail of every aspect of his company’s work, but gives a team direction.

I believe he would be a much more inspirational leader than the dorky Newt.

phillypolitics on November 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Hilarious! Yes, Mark Block is quite the expert.

Punchenko on November 30, 2011 at 9:03 PM

I talked to a lot of people 61999 times

Stay on message.

RINO in Name Only on November 30, 2011 at 9:03 PM

sharrukin on November 30, 2011 at 8:45

Are you serious? What proof? I haven’t seen or heard any proof. None. All talk, nothing substantial. And the NRA “claims” were severances, not legal settlements, like for example what Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones.

So, if you choose to believe this then fine, but I need more than just allegations conveniently timed to bring a candidate down and destroy his character. To me, to bring down someone’s character is a serious matter and shouldn’t only be based on hearsay. There has to be some evidence. If there’s evidence, believe me I would be here detailing it, because I got no horse in this race. I could care less if Cain did or didn’t do what is alleged.

But for where I sit, I haven’t seen anything substantive and so I won’t condemn the man who is steadfastly maintaining his innocence and vigorously defending his character and integrity.

milemarker2020 on November 30, 2011 at 9:08 PM

Yikes. Clad I got off the Cain train.

andy85719 on November 30, 2011 at 8:01 PM

The funny thing is in about two weeks time, many here will also be saying they are glad they got off the Gingrich train.

TheRightMan on November 30, 2011 at 9:08 PM

He has the 9-9-9 text plan from Sprint.

stenwin77 on November 30, 2011 at 9:10 PM

A derailed train is still better than a gold plated billion dollar polished turd.

tjexcite on November 30, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Is that Kurt Cobain’s epitaph? /Huntsman-joke

Lawdawg86 on November 30, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Herman Cain isn’t running as the expert on everything, but as a guide for his team of experts. No CEO knows every detail of every aspect of his company’s work, but gives a team direction.

I believe he would be a much more inspirational leader than the dorky Newt.

phillypolitics on November 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Strawman. Cain isn’t in trouble for not knowing every detail of foreign policy. He’s in trouble for barely knowing any detail. He appears not to have any grasp on the fundamental, big picture foreign policy questions, so much so that he could not articulate a criticism of Obama’s bizarrely incoherent Libya policy, which should have been a softball.

Hey, why don’t you all nominate me? I promise that I will hire advisers that are even smarter than Cain’s! And my tax plan will be called 888. Everyone knows 999 is just for Tax-and-spend Candy-ass RINO-establishment-apologist squishes.

See, anyone can play this game!

RINO in Name Only on November 30, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Cain is in way over his head. He should do his family, his party, and his country a favor and quit.

RonDelDon on November 30, 2011 at 9:18 PM

I have never used the term “OMG” in anything but mocking scorn of airheads. But after seeing his foreign policy map, I can think of nothing else to say but OMG WTF?!?

John the Libertarian on November 30, 2011 at 9:21 PM

He has the 9-9-9 text plan from Sprint.

stenwin77 on November 30, 2011 at 9:10 PM

9 words to 9 women 9 times a day?

profitsbeard on November 30, 2011 at 9:28 PM

I expected better organization from someone who has made a very successful living as a manager of people.

Count to 10 on November 30, 2011 at 9:31 PM

That map actually makes me suspicious that Cain might have gotten his 9-9-9 plan from Sim-city 4 as some on the left have suggested.

sharrukin on November 30, 2011 at 9:32 PM

Cain must be totally torn these days. He started his campaign as a joke run. Then he started getting fervent backers who deviously got the meme stuck out there that he actually was a good candidate and very conservative, much like the MSM got the meme out there that Obama was totally capable of running the nation, and was really center center left candidate. Ever since, he has been milking the poor sods for more and more of their stupid while making a mockery of even looking like he wants to be president. Haley Barbour put on a more energetic campaign than Cain has. He does just about every single campaign trick in the book that the democrats do, but he is the conservative candidate and if you say otherwise his supporters will double down on stupid and call you names. So, he suffers with the allegations, and he rejoices with the making of idiots act like idiots. I hope he writes a book on it later.

astonerii on November 30, 2011 at 9:34 PM

I have never used the term “OMG” in anything but mocking scorn of airheads. But after seeing his foreign policy map, I can think of nothing else to say but OMG WTF?!?

John the Libertarian on November 30, 2011 at 9:21 PM

Sadly, that about covers it.

Kataklysmic on November 30, 2011 at 9:39 PM

Herman Cain isn’t running as the expert on everything, but as a guide for his team of experts. No CEO knows every detail of every aspect of his company’s work, but gives a team direction.

I believe he would be a much more inspirational leader than the dorky Newt.

phillypolitics on November 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Yeah, with the likes of Mark Block on his team, who could question how awesome his advisers would be?

Hollowpoint on November 30, 2011 at 9:41 PM

With false sex allegations? No, none of them. Cavuto’s point is that Cain keeps glibly suggesting that it wouldn’t be so hard to find five or six women to false accuse him of stuff since he’s met thousands and thousands of people during his career. Well, so has everyone else who’s running. Where are the false accusations against them?

Allahpundit on November 30, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Not yet, but they’re coming. Except, of course, the weakest one and that’s the one they’ll be nice to until they get the nomination.

Then we’ll see it.

Have we learned nothing in the last three years?

kim roy on November 30, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Cain’s remarks and the map… Hoo-boy!

AH_C on November 30, 2011 at 10:18 PM

The Republican field is a sick joke. At this point, Obama deserves to win.

Could be worse, though. One of the big-spending Republicans (which includes Romney, Gingrich & Hunstman) could win. That would be much worse.

Here are the two scenarios:

Obama wins: Republican-controlled House & Senate keep him from doing too much damage, and party rivalry ensures that Obama’s big-spending boondoggles will be fought tooth and nail. Repub Senate ensures no libs will be confirmed for Supreme Court, only moderates. When the 2016 campaign starts up, the economy will still be in the crapper so the entire country will be sick of Obama & Dem impotence, and ready for a change. Because all the typical sleazy Repub “moderates” were soundly thrashed in the 2012 election, the slate is mostly filled with “extreme-right-wing lunatics” (i.e., Tea Party favorites), and we get our first truly conservative president since the Jurassic.

Big-Spending Republican wins: this pseudo-conservative claims a mandate and has no trouble convincing his big-spending Repub & Dem allies in the House & Senate to go along with his big-spending plans. In order to be seen as a big-tent guy, no conservatives are nominated for Supreme Court, only moderates. When the 2016 campaign starts up, the economy will still be in the crapper so the entire country will be sick of Repubs. Dems regain WH and House and Senate with a convincing mandate.

Same result either way, the only difference being who gets the blame, and thus who takes the WH & Congress in 2016. If you want the Republican party to continue to be dominated by status-quo sleazy politicians, by all means vote for Romney, Gingrich or Huntsman.

If, on the other hand, you want the President to be a certified nutjob, vote for RP.

Hobson’s choice, it may seem. But the other option is to prove your vote is worth something, by saving it for a worthy candidate. Even if that means waiting until the next election.

Splashman on November 30, 2011 at 10:38 PM

Sure, Hermann. Obama’s shaking in his boots.

flataffect on November 30, 2011 at 10:39 PM

A few times and you could give him a pass, not when there are six allegations with proof including two prior settlements on the issue. Its not believable anymore.

sharrukin

So, for you, 6 potential liars with shaky stories, 3 of which won’t even tell us what the story is, is the minimum for being guilty, lol? God help any defendant that gets you as one of their jurors.

By the way, where is all this proof? I’ve yet to see proof of Cain doing anything wrong. At best, we have proof that Cain was friends with this last woman. And that’s not a defense of Cain, that’s a defense of reality.

xblade on November 30, 2011 at 10:40 PM

I expected better organization from someone who has made a very successful living as a manager of people.

Count to 10 on November 30, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Yeah, apparently the bar for CEO’s isn’t very high these days.

He’s a nice guy and (I’m guessing) a very hard worker. Reminds me of Perry. Talks a good game, but get him out of his comfort zone and look out.

Way, way back in high school, I had a friend who had to work really, really hard to get A’s or B’s. I admired his work ethic then and now — I was always much more lazy. But the fact is, he just wasn’t very bright. And while being intelligent doesn’t obviate the need to work hard, it’s just as true that being a hard worker doesn’t obviate the need for intelligence.

Splashman on November 30, 2011 at 10:45 PM

xblade on November 30, 2011 at 10:40 PM

He paid $45,00 and $35,000 in two separate settlements.
He has six accusers.
He lied about what he knew.
He has been giving answers with lots of wiggle room.
He has acknowledged the last relationship, if not its nature.
He claims he is willing take a lie detector test… but won’t.

I wouldn’t believe anyone under those circumstances much less a politician.

sharrukin on November 30, 2011 at 10:45 PM

This guy is really getting pathetic. Don’t you Cainiacs wish you had evaluated him rationally in the first place instead of going all Obama on the primary?

Jaibones on November 30, 2011 at 10:56 PM

If this really is a smear machine at work, how come none of the other candidates have been targeted?

Because the other frontrunners are now “mandated Healthcare Mitt Romney” and “was neutralized in the 90′s Newt Gingrich?” One of them apparently has no skin and was spooked by Brett Bair, the other one has no discernible ground game, making him a more combative Romney with no ground force.

Obama has been itching to fight Mitt Romney. They’ve already been attacking him and preparing the machine to slime him, and you know this to be the case, seeing as you’ve reported on the several instances of it.

As for Gingrich, he’ on the top of the polls. Too bad an actual vote requires more work than picking up a phone survey at home. Gingrich lacks the organization it will take to fight Romney, so as much as he might be a theoretical threat, unless he’s spending all his remaining waking hours in the early states, he has absolutely no chance at beating Romney.

And how is it anyone fails to notice that this particular smear job is straight out of the (Democrat) Jim Crowe South playbook? It is not a coincidence that the left is trying to frame a conservative black man as some kind of sexual behemoth that threatens the wiles of every woman he comes across? We already saw this movie with Clarence Thomas.

Your line Allahpundit seems to be that the more accusers there are, no matter what their credibility, the more likely it is Cain did something wrong. Operating based on the seriousness of the charge rather than the veracity of each claim is how the media ends up choosing McCain or Romney candidates.

All you have to do is tell The Big Lie long enough, and what is supposed to be the conservative base will cave. That’s a message I’d rather we not be sending.

BKennedy on November 30, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Splashman on November 30, 2011 at 10:38 PM

Funny how we have essentially the exact same view on the stakes in the coming election, and yet because I judge Newt Gingrich to be a person that, due to his worldview of history, will be better than all the others, with the exception of Bachmann, you treat me like the enemy. I agree completely with you on the other two candidates you do not support.

astonerii on November 30, 2011 at 11:00 PM

As a Cain supporter, Gloria’s silence on this matter is troubling.

What did she know about Ginger and when did she know it?

rukiddingme on November 30, 2011 at 11:02 PM

Funny how we have essentially the exact same view on the stakes in the coming election, and yet because I judge Newt Gingrich to be a person that, due to his worldview of history, will be better than all the others, with the exception of Bachmann, you treat me like the enemy. I agree completely with you on the other two candidates you do not support.

astonerii on November 30, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Saying you’d vote for Obama under any circumstances does make you the enemy, though.

BKennedy on November 30, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Granted. I’m mixed on Perry. The “heartless” thing really turned me off, but the “foreign aid starts at zero until we talk” thing intrigued me. I like that.
predator on November 30, 2011 at 8:49 PM

The foreign aid will start at zero, but like always, it’ll be very easy to receive it.

We can sell some more of our debt to China then hand it over a Middle East Radical Islamic ally like Saudi Arabia, who we all know have our best interests in mind.

V-rod on November 30, 2011 at 11:05 PM

The Democrats have been praying for a Cain nomination, no doubt especially fervently when Cain was riding high in the polls. Cain claimed he could successfully compete against Obama in the one demographic that has remained the rock-solid core of the Democratic Party base: African-Americans–but the polling numbers don’t bear this out. If Cain somehow perseveres and miraculously wins the nomination, Obama would beat him handily however low the President’s poll numbers are right now. It would be Alan Keyes all over again–and if anyone cares or remembers, the idea of Alan Keyes carpetbagging it to the Illinois senatorial race was driven by the idea that Keyes, a conservative outlier skirting the fringe, could sway Black urban voters in Chicago. Didn’t happen then, won’t happen now. Cain won’t dent the Black vote.

All Obama needs to do to should he ever debate Cain is steer the discussion to those topics Cain knows very little about: foreign policy, the legislative process, basic civics, current events, geopolitics…

troyriser_gopftw on November 30, 2011 at 11:05 PM

BKennedy on November 30, 2011 at 11:00 PM

I can paraphrase that for you…

Eh eh eh eh, smear machine! Not one single iota of this is due to Cain’s behavior, it is all 100% totally made up. None of this bears on his character! It is just slime politics, see, there is a curtain! NOOOO DON”T LOOK, but there is a man pulling the strings behind it. There is! I am not crazy, no don’t look, you will scare him! It is all a conspiracy, hatched and planned by the racists. This should make you trust Cain more, because you know they tell you who they fear by who they attack! It is all a conspiracy to control your choices, and because of this conspiracy you must absolutely 100% all fall behind Cain so that you are allowed to control your choice! Huh? Oh, I think they are hacking my computer, those racists are good hackers, capable of putting phone records on a phone if they want. Where was my tin foil hat? AHHHHHHHH vote Cain, or you will never get to have a choice in the futuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrreeeeee. Zap.

astonerii on November 30, 2011 at 11:07 PM

Saying you’d vote for Obama under any circumstances does make you the enemy, though.

BKennedy on November 30, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Do you ever back your claims with anything other than your delusional statements? I have stated innumerable times who I will vote for.

astonerii on November 30, 2011 at 11:09 PM

It just came out that Ginger White was having a lesbian affair with her business partner during the time she’s supposed to have had the Cain affair. This stuff gets weirder and weirder.

juliesa on November 30, 2011 at 11:25 PM

I have never used the term “OMG” in anything but mocking scorn of airheads. But after seeing his foreign policy map, I can think of nothing else to say but OMG WTF?!?

John the Libertarian on November 30, 2011 at 9:21 PM

It truly is a “WTF?” experience. Maybe it just needs some pictures to help people understand the places better. In China, you could have a picture of Jet Li or fortune cookies. In Africa, you could show Tarzan. Canada can have a picture of Rush or….a hockey team or something. Bjork could represent Iceland. Just to liven things up.

Dongemaharu on November 30, 2011 at 11:25 PM

Do you ever back your claims with anything other than your delusional statements? I have stated innumerable times who I will vote for.

astonerii on November 30, 2011 at 11:09 PM

You aren’t worth wasting my time on, you can’t even remember what you wrote yesterday.

Eh eh eh, shoot the messenger!

Am I happy? Not really. I detest with vigor his least involved supporters. Quite frankly, just like the Cain supporters, I am perfectly happy to live under Obama for 4 more years, except my reasoning is has two things. First Cain would damage the Republican name brand, he is not remotely capable of handling the position he is contending for. Second, I would vote Obama just to shut people like you up. I am so sick and tired of the cult of personality rejects imagining themselves to be able to even imagine what conservative is let alone be conservative.

astonerii on November 29, 2011 at 8:20 PM

You also do not understand the concept of innocent until proven guilty. You are a drag on the entire nomination process.

You are wasting our time. Perhaps you should drop out of Hot Air and go back to dKos or wherever it is the slime gathers.

These is zippo evidence that Cain has done any wrongdoing. Bialek’s story collapsed, they couldn’t even get the other accuser women to hold a joint press conference. This new woman they dragged out of wherever has been successfully sued for libel and her affair period includes the time Herman Cain was being treated for colon cancer.

There are only two possibilities: Herman Cain is completely innocent and these “black man is a sexual monster threatening your blonde white woman” throwbacks from the Good Ol Days of Democratic politics are sick, twisted, disgusting, and grounds to nominate Cain out of spite, just to stick it in the media’s eyes (as if Romney will fight for conservatism or Gingrich won’t revert to his old policy peddling ways).

The other possibility is Herman Cain is the worst kind of amoral monster on the planet whose modus operandi is only to prey on women who will be guaranteed to have credibility issues if they come to attack him later, and he is a masterful manipulator who has been planning this presidential run forever, only to have his nefarious plan foiled and his demonic nature exposed unexpectedly.

There is no middle ground, no “Cain had a wandering eye.” It’s become ridiculous to the point where it’s all or nothing. Given the sketchy to nonexistent evidence presented and the fact all of the accusers seem to have these problems, either Cain chooses women this way like a serial adulterer or it’s one of the lowest smear campaign’s since they tried to do the *exact same thing* in the *exact same way* to Clarence Thomas.

BKennedy on November 30, 2011 at 11:46 PM

You people whining about Herb’s map do realize you are his target audience… right? :D

benny shakar on November 30, 2011 at 11:58 PM

You people whining about Herb’s map do realize you are his target audience… right? :D

benny shakar on November 30, 2011 at 11:58 PM

Personally I don’t see anything wrong with it. If people are really whining something like “we can’t use only two words to describe international relations with any given country!” then they’ve already forgotten Reagans “evil empire” moment.

“Danger and Opportunity” seems like a pretty good description of Egypt to me. But then, you guys were looking for a Romneyesque parsing or perhaps a Newt dissertation of what Egypt was like back in 1996 when he was Speaker of the House?

People already have it locked in their minds that xyz candidate is xyz. They’ll keep reinforcing those beliefs to the bitter end.

BKennedy on December 1, 2011 at 12:06 AM

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