Quotes of the day
posted at 10:19 pm on November 23, 2011 by Allahpundit
Via Revolution PAC.
“I am not predicting Ron Paul is nominated, I am suggesting he deserves to be treated with the respect of now being a serious contender to win first or second place in Iowa and New Hampshire. I have always predicted that Paul will ultimately be one of three finalists for the Republican nomination, which will become a three-person race, with Ron Paul one of the three.
“At a minimum Ron Paul is now a force to be reckoned with. His support has surged in multiple polls. His fundraising will probably surge even more. He has the potential to be a kingmaker if he is the third Republican left at the convention with no candidate having a majority of delegates.
“No doubt about it, a Ron Paul third-party candidacy would now be very formidable.”
“In a year when the Republican field is unusually fractured, with front-runners coming around as often as carousel ponies, Mr. Paul’s ability to mobilize niche groups like home-schoolers may make a big difference. His campaign, which has won a number of straw polls and is picking up momentum, has demonstrated its ability to organize and mobilize supporters, which is particularly relevant in Iowa, where relatively small numbers can tip the scales in the caucuses…
“Two state polls this week show him in a statistical tie for first. One, released Monday by Bloomberg News, showed Mr. Paul winning 19 percent of likely Republican caucus voters, within the margin of error with Herman Cain, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich…
“Because of strong fund-raising from small donors on the Internet, the campaign has been able to saturate the Iowa airwaves with ads. It has outspent all others — $2.5 million on TV and radio commercials in Iowa and New Hampshire (where a Bloomberg poll had Mr. Paul in second place this week behind Mr. Romney). It plans to spend $4 million more before the voting in those two states begins in less than two months.”
“‘Ron Paul could be the best thing that happened to Romney, he’s the line between the first and second tier,’ he said. ‘He could be the spoiler and separate the rest of the field from Romney, and help give him a good win in Iowa or New Hampshire.’…
“‘Ron is appealing to all Republicans right now. They’ve come around completely to focusing on spending and want serious attempts to focusing on the budget,’ said Paul spokesman Jesse Benton. ‘Ron’s ideas are now mainstream ideas. People need to get out of the mindset of the 2004 election. The Republican Party is now the party of budgetary restraint.’…
“Craig Robinson, a former political director of the Iowa Republican Party, said that it ‘would be deadly’ for any candidate to finish behind Paul in Iowa or the other early voting states because it would hurt perceptions for that candidate’s electability.
“Robinson predicted that “people are going to be like, ‘if you can’t beat Ron Paul… how are you going to beat Barack Obama?’”
“Paul said Obama does not agree with stance of bringing U.S. troops home that are based internationally.
“‘He thinks we need more troops spread around the world. So he’s over in Australia, promising to send thousands of our troops to Australia. Why do we have to occupy Australia? I mean what’s going on? He said well maybe the Chinese will attack us. The Chinese are our banker, they’re not going to attack us— you know it’s not going to happen,’ Paul said…
“‘Defense spending is different than military spending. Sending troops to Australia, that’s not defense, we don’t need troops in Australia to protect against anybody invading this country. It’s all just mischief,’ Paul said.”
“When asked if he was saying ‘it was our fault’ that 9/11 happened, Paul said, no. ‘That’s a misconstruing of what I’m saying,’ he replied.
“‘America is you and I,’ Paul told Schieffer. ‘We didn’t cause it. The average American didn’t cause it. [But] if you have a flawed policy, it may influence it.
“‘I’m saying the policy-makers’ fault contributed to it,’ he added…
“‘We have 12,000 diplomats. I’m suggesting that maybe we ought to use some of them,’ Paul said. ‘I think the greatest danger now is for us to overreact. This is what I’m fearful of. Iran doesn’t have a bomb. There’s no proof. There’s no new information, regardless of this recent report. For us to overreact and talk about bombing Iran, that’s much more dangerous.’”
Via Breitbart TV.
Via Mediaite.
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What atrocities would those be?
I don’t know how to break this to you, but inside every Muslim there really isn’t an American struggling to get out!
sharrukin on November 24, 2011 at 12:20 AM
Really?
So my respect for their history, their religion, their culture, their language and their own faith in themselves is xenophobia?
Maybe I think that you just aren’t all that? Maybe I think they can choose their own path and they have no desperate need to embrace American values given that the United States has been around for a few hundred years and they have been around for more than a thousand.
They have outlasted just about everyone and from a purely objective point of view its a lot more likely they are going to win than that we are. They have buried more than a few who challenged them.
sharrukin on November 24, 2011 at 12:56 AM
Oh what a disgrace if such a despised and base race, which worships a misogynist pedophile demon, should massacre a people which has the faith of omnipotent God and is made glorious with the name of Christ! With what reproaches will the Lord overwhelm us if we do not aid those who are being brutalized and murdered because they profess the Christian religion! Let those who have been accustomed unjustly to wage private warfare against the faithful now go against the Mohammedans in a Holy Crusade and end with total victory this final war which should have begun long ago.
InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on November 24, 2011 at 12:56 AM
annoyinglittletwerp on November 24, 2011 at 12:42 AM
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You better go to bed, little girl! Me, too! Good night all! I hope you have a safe and happy Thanksgiving!
cynccook on November 24, 2011 at 12:53 AM
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Happy ThanksGiving America…and the USS Hot Air as well!
GoodNight Patriots,and remember,a good Islamist…is
a very dead Jihady:)
canopfor on November 24, 2011 at 12:58 AM
Exactly.
JannyMae on November 24, 2011 at 12:58 AM
Muslims in small relative numbers behave. Where the percentage of the population exceeds a certain level their behavior suddenly changes. It’s well documented.
I am an atheist so no tongues or church for me.
Igor R. on November 24, 2011 at 12:59 AM
Mohammedan morals consist in prostrate like bowing 5 times a day in the general direction of some black stone in Mecca that is suppose to have fallen down from their moon-god, Allah, and attending mosque regularly at the appointed weekly time, and in breaking the ten commandments all the balance of the week. It comes natural to them to lie and cheat and kill and enslave in the first place, and then they go on and improve on that nature until they arrive at perfection. I never did dislike anyone as much as those Muslims and especially the Arabs, and, when Israel is pushed to war with them again, I hope America and England and France will not find it good breeding nor good judgment to interfere.
InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on November 24, 2011 at 12:59 AM
There is certainly nothing totalitarian about western actions in the middle east in recent decades that might incite violence toward westerners.
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 1:00 AM
And this is why I may have to re-think my original concerns about Ron Paul. He is strong on most conservatives support, but his foreign policy views have been a concern for me. However, as recent events have shown, plenty of “conservatives” are not only content with sticking their own heads in the sand in regards to the invasion of this country from the south, they actually believe we are obligated to aid the invaders.
With that being the case, Ron Paul’s foreign policy concerns are no longer really an issue. Why should I care what Iran is doing while we’re being conquered from within?. If we aren’t concerned with securing the nation here at home, does it really matter what’s happening abroad? The answer is no, it doesn’t.
xblade on November 24, 2011 at 1:01 AM
So now the US is a totalitarian actor committing atrocities galore?
Is that you Rev. Jeremiah Wright?
sharrukin on November 24, 2011 at 1:04 AM
I know some actual Muslims. Better than you know your stereotypes of christians, or whatever your imam told you about them.
sloopy on November 24, 2011 at 1:04 AM
D*mmit….one for da road,if it isn’t the CrazyVirginEvenIf YouConvertYourStillSlavesJihadyMindsetNutJobs,
its,the North Koreans!!
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North Korea threatens ‘sea of fire’ in Seoul in response to South’s military drills – AFP
6 Min.ago.
http://www.breakingnews.com/
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http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Asia/Story/STIStory_737546.html
canopfor on November 24, 2011 at 1:04 AM
There is certainly quite a bit to incite violence towards westerners. That is true all over the world. If you examine how Islam has dealt with external foes since its founding other than during the few peaceful periods in a small number of territories, you will realize that they cannot coexist with anyone in a peaceful, equal-rights setting. The way of Islam is the way of the sword. Just study what happened to its early leaders and the neighbors of the early islamic tribes.
Igor R. on November 24, 2011 at 1:06 AM
OK, who’s up for Moon Mohammad Day?
InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on November 24, 2011 at 1:06 AM
Is that you Rev. Jeremiah Wright?
sharrukin on November 24, 2011 at 1:04 AM
sharrukin:Or,Father Pfedger!:)
Nite:)
canopfor on November 24, 2011 at 1:08 AM
If you honestly can’t answer that question then I don’t think that you have as much respect for the history or their culture as you seem to think that you do.
Shall we start with installing the Shah?
Installing Saddam?
Financing the Iran/Iraq war?
Abandoning the Shia at the end of Operation Desert Storm?
Oppressive sanctions?
Supplying Saddam with weapons and the resulting impact on the Kurds?
Propping up Mubarak? Excusing the Saudis?
Our latest invasion of Iraq?
Etc. Etc.
By my estimates I believe we have probably been directly and indirectly responsible for the deaths or over a million people and the repression of many, many more.
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 1:09 AM
America’s turkeys are coming home to roost.
Igor R. on November 24, 2011 at 1:09 AM
Night.
sharrukin on November 24, 2011 at 1:09 AM
My point would be that the minority engage in that type of activity, and not the majority. There CAN be differences within the same religion.
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 1:11 AM
The vast majority of them behave in a perfectly acceptable fashion. The point is that it’s a cult and they are all hoping for a different future than normal people. And sometimes, when they feel like it, they act based on that hope.
Igor R. on November 24, 2011 at 1:14 AM
And this differs historically from Christianity how?
I’m sure you remember what manifest destiny lead to.
Do we provide unqualified aid and support to Israel based on their status as an ally or does religion play into the mix?
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 1:19 AM
Get over yourself.
I know its great to think that when we walk that the earth trembles, but its really not the case. Our supplying weapons, just like India, China, Russia, Brazil and others have done doesn’t make us responsible for the use to which they are put. If we buy goods from China that doesn’t mean they are to blame for what we do with it.
You want to blame every misfortune and bit of nastiness in the world on the west. You want to hold the west to an impossible standard, so you can whip us collectively or our imagined shortfalls. It makes you a very special person because you have the dazzling insight and moral clarity that the rest of us lack.
You remind me of a medieval priest who hates the material world because it can never match up in perfection to the heavenly visions as you whip yourself for sins, both real and imagined.
sharrukin on November 24, 2011 at 1:19 AM
There are certain similarities to how Christians behaved during some periods. There are also some basic theological differences in that Christianity is fundamentally based on the idea of love and Islam on advancing the interests of the Ummah. Christians worship a man who supposedly died for love, and Muslims don’t just worship but attempt to emulate a pattern of behavior that is not something that should be emulated.
Igor R. on November 24, 2011 at 1:26 AM
Not the case, and I’ll ignore the insults and again just ask the following:
What is your justification for inciting war and repression?
If these same things were done to us would we not be incited to seek revenge against our aggressors?
What threshold would we have to cross in order for you to consider our foreign policy in the middle east to have been a failure?
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 1:31 AM
Just to clarify, you regard this as applying to all Muslims?
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 1:35 AM
I regard this as applying to pretty much all ACTIVE muslims, meaning the ones following their religion in more than nominal ways. There are quite a few muslims who leave the religion for all practical purposes although of course they are still considered muslim by virtue of their history, their names, etc. and it doesn’t apply to them. Sometimes this connection is reestablished when things are not going right for them, and then it’s back to the old program. The point is you can’t really believe what they are supposed to believe and not be ready to do some really atrocious stuff. If you lose interest there is no point in doing the atrocious stuff.
I have to go. Good night!
Igor R. on November 24, 2011 at 1:41 AM
I disagree. We ARE responsible when we do it for the express purpose of altering the balance of power in order to incite war, i.e. Iran/Iraq 1980-1988.
I’ll get over myself when we stop the practice as I am tired of being responsible for the deaths of those caught in the crossfire.
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 1:42 AM
Don’t do that!
I am evil. The pain and misfortunes of others arouses me. /
If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
As I recall we went to bat for the Bosnians.
We went to bat for the Afghans against the Soviets.
We went to bat for the Libyans against Qaddafi.
We were allied with the Turks protecting them during the cold war.
We went into Somalia to help.
We sent food, supplies and assistance to Indonesia after the tsunami there.
Where’s the gratitude?
You seem to keep track of all the imagined sins, but you forget the reality of what we have done.
I already think its a failure, but that isn’t because we haven’t groveled enough to those who hate our guts.
sharrukin on November 24, 2011 at 1:44 AM
Thanks for answering!
Night! :-)
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 1:44 AM
Don’t do that!
I am evil. The pain and misfortunes of others excites me. /
If you pr!ck us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
As I recall we went to bat for the Bosnians.
We went to bat for the Afghans against the Soviets.
We went to bat for the Libyans against Qaddafi.
We were allied with the Turks protecting them during the cold war.
We went into Somalia to help.
We sent food, supplies and assistance to Indonesia after the tsunami there.
Where’s the gratitude?
You seem to keep track of all the imagined sins, but you forget the reality of what we have done.
I already think its a failure, but that isn’t because we haven’t groveled enough to those who hate our guts.
sharrukin on November 24, 2011 at 1:45 AM
Then go to a nation that does none of those things and you will feel morally upright and not have to worry about Muslim anger, like say…Denmark. Oh, wait?
sharrukin on November 24, 2011 at 1:48 AM
Forgotten? No.
Pointing out that our contradictory actions could be construed as cause for aggression? Yes.
The Chinese could drop all the food they wanted to in the drought ravaged southwest, but if they were still blowing up bridges and killing my wife and kids in South Carolina I hardly think that their generosity would matter.
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 1:52 AM
I think I’d prefer to elect a commander-in-chief who recognizes the limits of his authority and a congress that doesn’t abdicate it’s responsibility to debate and then declare war.
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 1:54 AM
Funny, when the Iranians want to purchase nuclear weapons materials and technology, that’s legitimate. We have to presume it is only for “defense” purposes, and we should just let them have them. We should just ignore their threats to annihilate other countries, but if we sell weapons to other countries, then it’s our responsibility if they use them in an aggressive manner. One might think that certain people here want to have it both ways, and they will condemn the U.S. no matter what we do.
JannyMae on November 24, 2011 at 2:10 AM
There was no debate and no authorization for war in Afghanistan and Iraq? Put down the bong, dear, you are spouting utter nonsense. You can, and should, make a case for this with Obama.
And you omitted the second part of sharrukin’s comment, the one about us not groveling enough.
You have essentially stated that we have “created terrorists” with our foreign policy. That proves you do not understand Islam at all. We can not make “make friends” with terrorists.
They. Want. To. Kill. Us.
You. Don’t. Understand. This.
JannyMae on November 24, 2011 at 2:20 AM
I’m heading to bed but I’ll close with this:
I’m not excusing Iranian actions, but if I were the Iranians I’d be trying to build a bomb as fast as humanly possible unless I wanted to end up like the nukeless states of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
We won’t take them at their word, which is understandable. But I fail to see how they can take us at ours given that we convinced Gadaffi to disarm and look how that turned out for him.
Selling weapons to Israel for defense is one thing. Selling dictatorships weapons to incite a war against a country with whom we have an outstanding disagreement is wholly irresponsible.
If you truly do not believe that we have a responsibility to use force or the sale of arms in a manner consistent with not only the constitution but Just War Theory then I would assert that perhaps your very attitude is what has lead us to where we are today.
Happy Thanksgiving.
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 2:22 AM
Unless it’s immediately preceeded by a preposition, we should do away with the word whom. It’s clearly not natural anymore.
Tzetzes on November 24, 2011 at 2:26 AM
Authorization? You might want to go read about what exactly that entailed and then refer to your constitution.
If groveling means that we shouldn’t be undermining their sovereignty when it suits us then yes, I say way start groveling right away.
And you know nothing of human nature at all except the desire to marginalize and control those with whom you disagree, and kill those who will not obey…regardless of their sovereignty.
bmowell on November 24, 2011 at 2:28 AM
Like a typical liberal you seem very concerned about our enemies and not at all concerned about what they do. You excuse away Muslim attacks on Denmark as justifiable anger, excuse terrorism, and blame the west for Muslim dictators using western bullets. There is always a cheap excuse why they can do anything they want and its legitimized somehow by our lack of perfection and anything we do is the occasion for being outrageously outraged.
Two million people are killed in the Sudan and you airily wave it away as a trifle, but you go on and on about the terrible atrocities we have committed, such as propping up Mubarak.
sharrukin on November 24, 2011 at 2:42 AM
The peeps are up late on this one.
Go Paul! Give ‘em hell.
abobo on November 24, 2011 at 6:15 AM
I ask only two things from Hot Air commenters.
First: Have a good, pig-out Thanksgiving Day with family and friends.
Second: Please keep the world safe from the likes of Ron Paul.
Thank you.
OldEnglish on November 24, 2011 at 7:20 AM
Ron Paull isn’t a Republican, he’s a white power isolationist Kucinichite. he’s going to create a Department of Peace cabinet level department, for crissakes.
Ignore him. He will go away.
And if he runs as an indie, so what? Let him– he will draw as much or more from Obama as the GOP candidate.
MTF on November 24, 2011 at 7:37 AM
The problem with the middle east is that the cultural beliefs surrounding faith, social roles, and the role of religion in world politics is stuck in the 7th century. And for that very reason you cannot use modern rational thinking to motivate them. The only thing they understand is violence to facilitate compliance to the rule of the majority. I say lets accommodate them. It would be entirely unfair for us to expect them to accept our beliefs unless we do it in a way that they approve of. So, let the @ss kicking begin!
csdeven on November 24, 2011 at 7:56 AM
This reminds me of the inevitable log cabin stories from all political candidates, suspect in the details but illustrative for the desired effect.
Cindy Munford on November 24, 2011 at 8:09 AM
Someone thinks they are smarter than everyone else.
tomas on November 24, 2011 at 8:26 AM
Is that what you saw when you were there?
hawkdriver on November 24, 2011 at 8:44 AM
I got the same impression. Happy Thanksgiving girl.
hawkdriver on November 24, 2011 at 8:47 AM
OT: Nice WVU Marching Band salute to the Armed Services. Five and a half minutes. Watch all the way through; it’s pretty cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjPmmCtHmfE
BuckeyeSam on November 24, 2011 at 8:57 AM
Wow. There is nothing more entertaining than to see Paul-bots come out of the woodwork to talk up crazy Uncle Ron.
If you think 1) that Ron Paul could beat Obama, you’re nuts, or 2) that in some alternate universe, he could beat Obama, that any small part of DC would support any of his lunatic ideas, you’re even nuttier.
In the real world, Ron Paul is not a serious candidate for President. Hell, Herman Cain is vastly more serious than Ron Paul.
deadrody on November 24, 2011 at 9:02 AM
You to!!!! God bless you and your family.
Cindy Munford on November 24, 2011 at 9:03 AM
That only means that the majority of Muslims are not being faithful to their bloodthirsty founder.
Sura (8:55) – Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve
Sura (48:29) – Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves
Sura (9:30) – And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah… Allah (Himself) fights against them. How perverse are they!
Sura (8:12) – I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them
Sura (9:123) – O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness
Sura (5:33) – The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement
Akzed on November 24, 2011 at 9:14 AM
Thank you for linking that, it is wonderful. I sent to my family.
Cindy Munford on November 24, 2011 at 9:19 AM
That was totally awesome.
hawkdriver on November 24, 2011 at 9:32 AM
I thought so too. It is very clever. The Air Force and Navy segments are very much so. And the end is worth watching for too.
BuckeyeSam on November 24, 2011 at 9:40 AM
+1
CW on November 24, 2011 at 9:43 AM
As a purely tactical matter, though, are we sure Ron Paul wouldn’t take more votes (the #Occupy crowd) away from the Democrats than from the Republicans? I don’t see the 99%ers being too concerned with foreign policy, and Paul’s libertarianism would go well with some who see government as being in big business’s pocket.
PersonFromPorlock on November 24, 2011 at 10:40 AM
A Ron Paul QOTD???..Oh my..:)
PS..Dire Straits was here..:)
Dire Straits on November 24, 2011 at 10:45 AM
I hate to think that I am a 42 year old Conservative White Male that up to this point was just like most of the commentators on this site proclaiming that war (like the Bush wars, now Obama wars) were the way to protect America. I served in the Republican Party and brought people out to vote. I can not believe I use to sound like you do on this site proclaiming violence, hatred, and domenance over other countries as if you are God’s choosen country to police the world. I do not know why it took me so long to realize this is not what our founders wanted from our nation. Our nation fought locally against this type of dominance. Ron Paul is not just getting his usual 8%, my entire family has now alligned with the founding fathers and the constitution that Paul proclaims and will support him all the way through the primary. There is a question in ballance of Liberty and Security. I will fight to keep my Liberty, and some with give up their Liberty for security and will have neither. Go Paul! Happy Thanksgiving All, will pray for your eye opening recovery like mine :) Thanks Mike Church for helping me find my way during my long drive in the mornings.
livermush on November 24, 2011 at 11:12 AM
I did have a hard time making out the Coastie pic.
hawkdriver on November 24, 2011 at 11:46 AM
I find it cute that you can judge whether somebody is a true believer without even knowing them.
gyrmnix on November 24, 2011 at 4:46 PM
If you know the belief system, it isn’t that hard to decide if an individual is following it.
Nancy Pelosi claims to be a Cathlic for example. I have never met her and I can judge that she isn’t a good one based on her conduct.
sharrukin on November 24, 2011 at 5:19 PM
For someone all concerned about Constitutional Authority, you don’t know much about the Constitution.
With the conflict you are obviously referring to, CONGRESS must authorize spending for the military conflict… WHICH THEY DID… and continued to do every two years as required by the Constitution.
dominigan on November 24, 2011 at 5:30 PM
Fear politics from the Dems: BAAAAAD
Fear politics from the GOP: GOOOOOOD
Notorious GOP on November 25, 2011 at 8:11 AM
Outrageous comments from the Dems about our military: Baaaaad.
Outrageous comments from the GOP about our military: Goooood.
hawkdriver on November 25, 2011 at 10:02 AM
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