CNN poll: Gingrich 24, Romney 20, Cain 17, Perry 11

posted at 6:38 pm on November 21, 2011 by Allahpundit

No surprise in the topline numbers but lots of little surprises in the details. For instance, after dropping from 25 percent last month to 14 percent last week, Cain’s actually bounced back to 17 percent. A few voters might be giving him the benefit of the doubt now that no more women have come forward to accuse him of harassment. Another surprise: From mid-October to mid-November, the number of voters who said they’d definitely support one candidate versus those who might change their minds stood perfectly even at 31/61. This week, however, the spread jumped to 27/67. Proof, perhaps, that Gingrich really is starting to soften up other candidates’ support? Perry’s numbers have now declined for five straight polls and, at 20 percent, this is Romney’s poorest showing since September, so … maybe, yeah.

The two most fascinating Newt numbers? Behold:

He’s now the tea-party favorite with a double-digit lead over his closest competitor, Cain. Being the momentarily anointed Not Romney will do that for you, I guess, even if you’ve spent decades as a Beltway insider. (Note that Perry, who embraced the tea-party movement early on, is now fifth in this demographic.) And he’s a runaway winner in the 65 and over group, which bodes well for the general election if he’s the nominee but which I’m at a loss to fully explain. Is it simply that he’s the only candidate up there (besides Paul) who belongs to that age group? Is it gratitude for his coolness to Paul Ryan’s Medicare plan early on? Is it the unusual amount of time he’s spent on the trail talking about Alzheimer’s research? Worth keeping an eye on this number going forward as it could matter a lot in explaining any Newt upsets in the primaries.

Gingrich is also the candidate whom voters are most enthusiastic about, even though he’s a distant fourth in likability. How to explain that disparity? Could be this:

So deep are doubts about Perry that he now trails even Cain in this category despite the latter’s unending gaffe parade.

Here’s the number that probably decides the nomination, though:

That’s a nice bounce for Gingrich, but if those numbers hold — and there’s reason to think they will as the media starts to revisit his baggage — a lot of Republican undecideds in Iowa (yes, Iowa!) who desperately want to beat Obama will bite the bullet on Mitt. Exit quotation: “The others may not quite be toast. But they’re certainly in the toaster, the dial is turned up to nine, and there is smoke coming out.”

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Newt ’12. Why go with Romney if you don’t have to?

portlandon on November 21, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Yawn.

echosyst on November 21, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Newtmentum!

nickj116 on November 21, 2011 at 6:42 PM

Newt…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Was just going to post that! GREAT ad.

nickj116 on November 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM

I like Newt better than Romney. So this is good news!

terryannonline on November 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Newt please….let him make our case to the American Public on the big stage vs. Obama. Winner take all.

jp on November 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Newt goes off the reservation at times, but he always takes his brain along. It’s so embarrassing when other candidates sometimes leave theirs behind. You’d think they’d have a staffer to check the room, and make sure they didn’t leave it behind.

RBMN on November 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Newt idolized Reagan, and has for years.

Romney says he was an independent during the Reagan years, and distances himself from him.

portlandon on November 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Will all those trolls who made quite a fuss of Palin quitting complain about Gingrich please?

promachus on November 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Newt…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

I thought about this moment today when Super Committee failed….great ad. Now if he has the money to run it in primary states?

jp on November 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Will all those trolls who made quite a fuss of Palin quitting complain about Gingrich please?

promachus on November 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Newt was a Member of Congress for decades. No comparison!

terryannonline on November 21, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Newt had a Contract with America, which balanced the Federal Budget.

Romney was against the Contact with America, and said he didn’t like picking teams, but wants to work with Democrats so they all feel like winners.

Spits.

portlandon on November 21, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Will all those trolls who made quite a fuss of Palin quitting complain about Gingrich please?

promachus on November 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

None of the complaints about Palin had anything to do with reality. They were just an excuse for their Two Minute Hate which the media had told them to direct at Palin.

sharrukin on November 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Newt…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Great ad! Thanks!

tinkerthinker on November 21, 2011 at 6:54 PM

Newt was a Member of Congress for decades. No comparison!

terryannonline on November 21, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Palin has been fighting corruption for decades. No comparison!

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 6:55 PM

Newt…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Yea, that was a spectacular answer from him during that debate.

thphilli on November 21, 2011 at 6:55 PM

Perry is doing well on Bret Baier’s show

John the Libertarian on November 21, 2011 at 6:56 PM

I want Maw Maw Grizzly..:)

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 6:57 PM

I’m amazed that Cain isn’t in the single digits where he belongs.

How any reasonably intelligent person who’s been paying attention could still be a Cain supporter is incomprehensible.

Hollowpoint on November 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Gov. Perry was on the panel on Fox. He did nicely.

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Hollowpoint on November 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM

The question is how many Americans do you think are reasonably intelligent.

thphilli on November 21, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Hollowpoint on November 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM

He is supported by the Bircherite wing of the party.

promachus on November 21, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Thumbs up!!..:)

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Palin has been fighting corruption for decades. No comparison!

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 6:55 PM

Yeah, we can play that game too. Palin was an executive which Newt never has been. No comparison!

promachus on November 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Well, the salamander ain’t my first choice but if it’s between him or Romney I’ll take the old white guy.

Browncoatone on November 21, 2011 at 7:02 PM

John the Libertarian on November 21, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Good Deal..:)

PS..How about those USC Trojans..:)

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 7:02 PM

The question is how many Americans do you think are reasonably intelligent.

thphilli on November 21, 2011 at 6:59 PM

I’d rather not think about it, other than answering “too few”. It’s too depressing to contemplate.

Hollowpoint on November 21, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Yeah, we can play that game too. Palin was an executive which Newt never has been. No comparison!

promachus on November 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Newt was Speaker of the House. He balanced a Federal Budget.

portlandon on November 21, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Hollowpoint on November 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM

I think people just want him to succeed.

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2011 at 7:05 PM

I don’t understand that second graph. Did they only ask respondents’ age if they were 50 or older?

John the Libertarian on November 21, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 7:02 PM

We missed you in the Green Room on Saturday. What an amazing weekend for upsets.

John the Libertarian on November 21, 2011 at 7:07 PM

The Nistas are back….pssst Palin quit again.

CW on November 21, 2011 at 7:08 PM

newt/rick
rick/newt

its all good…

cmsinaz on November 21, 2011 at 7:08 PM

John the Libertarian on November 21, 2011 at 7:07 PM

I hate I missed..You are right about the upsets..College Football is awesome..:)

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Likability? I’m not looking or a drinking buddy.

katy the mean old lady on November 21, 2011 at 7:09 PM

cmsinaz on November 21, 2011 at 7:08 PM

+ 100..Well Played!!..:)

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 7:10 PM

He’s now the tea-party favorite with a double-digit lead over his closest competitor, Cain.

That’s because we’re the ones actually paying attention.

I can tell you that most of the tea party/conservatives here in Iowa are buzzing about Newt. They’ve given up on Cain, and like that Newt isn’t withering under pressure.

beatcanvas on November 21, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Newt is winning me over to him, I am not for him yet but I am closer then I was a few weeks ago. I am still a Perry Fan, I believe he can and will do more to get American back to where it needs to go. I like Perry idea about having Congress work be part-time.

BroncosRock on November 21, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Newt is in this race just to keep his name out there, to sell books, to get bigger contracts with lobbyists, etc, , but now that all these rival campaigns have collapsed and he is the new flavor of the month, he is trying to get an actual campaign going in Iowa and NH.

Spathi on November 21, 2011 at 7:13 PM

I think people just want him to succeed.

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Yes- people who have difficulty distinguishing between their desires and reality. That’s a failing which has become far too prevalent.

Hollowpoint on November 21, 2011 at 7:15 PM

I had written Perry off but he just did an amazing job on Fox’s Special Report “Center Seat” segment. And that was with Charles the K on one side and Juan W on the other…and Bill Krystal. IMHO, he was awesome…glad I watched it because I thought he was a goner.

Dingbat63 on November 21, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Newt…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

That ad is awesome. Just brilliant.

beatcanvas on November 21, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Perry did really well on Brett Beier’s “Center Seat” just now, really talking about defuding the UN. Laid into Obama and his lack of leadership on the debt crisis — said that Obama wanted to blame somebody and therefore allowed this to go to Congress so that Obama would have someone to blame. Perry did really well on foreign policy and his vision for foreign aid. Talked up Israel. Apologized again for his “heartless” comment. When Juan (who was the most aggressive of the panel, kind of like a yipping puppy, lol) said that securing the border would prevent Hispanic-Americans from voting Republican, Perry countered that Hispanic-Americans want the border secured, too; that Hispanic-Americans are no different from the rest of Americans in that they don’t want terrorists and drug cartels coming across the border. It was a great answer because it stopped this “us vs. them” kind of crap the Dems. like to play with their identity cards and how we’re all different instead of all “Americans”. They played the “Bad Lip-Reading” vid and Perry smiled all through it and when Brett asked if “save a pretzel for the gas jets” would become his new campaign slogan, Perry laughed and said, “I don’t think you’ll see that in Iowa.” He did great.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Gasp! “Which republican candidate has the best chance of beating
Obama” – answer: Romney- Are you kidding me?

Romney only has the R voters with mediocre brains. Any conservative
with a “lick of sense” (as my grandmother used to say) would
not vote for a person who fathered Obamacare.

Romney only looked good for the past two years because noone
else was running; recently he might look good because most of the
Seven Dwarfs are, well, “short” (of skills required to be
president and/or debating Obama) and Snow White choked or grounded her ship in the harbour or some such nonsense.

Now, here comes Newt! A brain and mouth working together successfully to make points on conservative issues. Newt
is on the upswing; just watch, Romney will be sliding down soon,
banging into Perry.

Amjean on November 21, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Hypothetical question: Combine Gingrich and Cain and you’re only 4 points behind Romney. The only one who wants Romney to run is Obama, because he’d essentially be a running mate.

I think the two as a ticket (Newt as POTUS and Cain as VP of course) could light up the base.

Just a thought.

Key West Reader on November 21, 2011 at 7:19 PM

By all means, let’s pick the epitome of career politician. \sarc

jawbone on November 21, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Newt…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Awesome.

terryannonline on November 21, 2011 at 7:19 PM

JC Watts was interviewed by Hannity today. JC Watts said something rather profound. “Until we have Christ on the ballot, all of our candidates will have some shortcomings”. (paraphrased, I can’t remember if he said shortcomings or faults).

JC Watts had a lot of nice things to say about Gingrich and Romney. He was also enthusiastic about selecting Rubio for VP. He had another take away line about the race, but I have been distracted since I heard it this afternoon and now can’t remember. Augh.

karenhasfreedom on November 21, 2011 at 7:20 PM

P.S. It was Gingrich and Cain who had a lovely interactive Lincoln Douglas Debate.

Strategy?

Key West Reader on November 21, 2011 at 7:25 PM

He was also enthusiastic about selecting Rubio for VP

Speaking Marco Rubio….have you all seen this interview. He is impressive!

terryannonline on November 21, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Unfortunately the average American voter will vote for whoever they perceive is the “frontrunner”. Right now we’re being told it’s Gingrich because he’s so smart and can debate. We’re supposed to forget his past positions (individual mandate, global warming), his past associations (Pelosi, Sharpton) and his lobbying. But best of all we’re supposed to believe he’s a Washington outsider. Who writes this fiction?

texabama on November 21, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Newt…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Oh yeah!! Very powerful!!

RonDelDon on November 21, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Newt was Speaker of the House. He balanced a Federal Budget.

portlandon on November 21, 2011 at 7:04 PM

And he quit from that position! I just love the double standards. By the way can you educate me on how a speak of the house can a balance federal budget. I thought budgeting was an executive thing to do.

promachus on November 21, 2011 at 7:29 PM

I always thought that The Couch (TM) with Newt and Nancy was just that Newt was silly enough to fall for global warming, but I had too much faith in Newt’s intelligence to think that it meant that Newt believed in man-made global warming. When Allah’s posts the other day showed Newt supporting Cap & Trade, I was shocked. Back then, most conservatives knew that global warming was a hoax in and of itself, but that even if global warming was real, Cap & Trade was wrong and was no solution because it was designed to destroy America; we knew that Soros was behind Cap & Trade and that he wanted America’s economy ruined. To think that Newt, who’s supposed to be “so smart” could fall for something as blatantly destructive as Cap & Trade has made me re-think his position as my “number two” choice. Newt seems to have memorized whole history books and has total recall of dates and facts throughout history, which makes him “book-learned”, but he obviously lacks common sense! He not only fell for Cap & Trade, he said just 12 months ago that there are things in Obamacare that are wonderful, and he supports amnesty. He’s hit the trifecta of supporting the three worst pieces of legislation that has come up over the last decade. For being “smart” he sure does fall for a lot of stupid things and for being “conservative” he sure does like some liberal policies (and that doesn’t even mention that he took the MSM’s side against Palin after Tuscon in January or his bashing the Ryan Paln in April).

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 7:31 PM

And he quit from that position! I just love the double standards.

He resigned after doing it for several years. Sarah Palin resigned after two and half years and she didn’t have to. No one was calling for Sarah Palin’s head….Newt on the other was pushed out my fellow Republican congressmen.

terryannonline on November 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 7:10 PM

:)

cmsinaz on November 21, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Newt…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

that was a good one…

thanks for the linky

cmsinaz on November 21, 2011 at 7:36 PM

cmsinaz on November 21, 2011 at 7:34 PM

..:)

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 7:37 PM

And he quit from that position! I just love the double standards.

I will also add that House Speakers don’t have terms. They usually don’t hold the Speakership for a long time. Pelosi was only Speaker for 4 years. Governors DO have terms. Palin didn’t even complete ONE term.

terryannonline on November 21, 2011 at 7:39 PM

To me, the fascinating number in this poll is Romney – 20%. He always polls between 17% and 25%. Others have surged higher and then dropped, but his consistency is amazing.

Of course, what this tells me is that no matter how good or bad of week he has, 75% GOP voters do not want him. If he is nominated, he will lose – he just won’t be able to bring enough voters to the polls in the general.

Over50 on November 21, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Audio: This Week on The Palin Update with Kevin Scholla: Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich

In this radio interview posted today. Newt shows Palin some love and also talks about how Palin or Jindal were the only choices McCain had for veep. And how Jindal is a “true expert” on healthcare.

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 7:48 PM

I thought budgeting was an executive thing to do.

Good grief.

John the Libertarian on November 21, 2011 at 7:48 PM

I thought budgeting was an executive thing to do.

promachus on November 21, 2011 at 7:29 PM

You actually think that Clinton balanced the budget?

BWAHAAAA… oohh, you almost made me think you were serious. Woo boy… I needed that laugh.

beatcanvas on November 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM

I thought budgeting was an executive thing to do.

promachus on November 21, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Wow, twisting yourself into a pretzel to avoid giving credit to Newt by praising Clinton?

Unbelievable.

fossten on November 21, 2011 at 7:57 PM

I thought budgeting was an executive thing to do.

promachus on November 21, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Wow!..Nice job of representing the Palinistas..Hat tip to you from the haters and trolls..:)

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 7:59 PM

He resigned after doing it for several years. Sarah Palin resigned after two and half years and she didn’t have to. No one was calling for Sarah Palin’s head….Newt on the other was pushed out my fellow Republican congressmen.

terryannonline on November 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM

BS…

It would have bankrupted her and her family and cost the State of Alaska millions.

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM

I was also disappointed in Newt’s answer to Hannity’s question re: The Couch (TM) last week — Newt was only sorry that it was unpopular, not that he was wrong. He said “It was the dumbest thing I’ve done because made me unpopular with conservatives and didn’t make liberals like me.” He never said he was WRONG to support Cap & Trade! Ugh.

Even before the “hide the decline” emails were revealed, true conservatives (and by that I mean everyone here) knew that Cap and Trade was evil. Newt did not.

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 8:09 PM

In this radio interview posted today. Newt shows Palin some love and also talks about how Palin or Jindal were the only choices McCain had for veep. And how Jindal is a “true expert” on healthcare.

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Is this the same Newt who just in January 2011, said, in reference to the shooting in Tuscon, that Palin “needs to think before she speaks”? That Newt? The Newt who took the MSM’s side that Tuscon was somehow Palin’s fault? Hmmmm.

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 8:11 PM

I guess so. Since you didn’t provide a link or even a direct quote, I can’t be sure.

The Newt who took the MSM’s side that Tuscon was somehow Palin’s fault?

Such a damning statement should be easy for you to prove. Thanks

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 8:19 PM

I’m glad to see Cain in third. Newt is my second choice so yeah while this poll could be better – it could be a lot worse.

How did Perry do in the center seat – anybody see it?

gophergirl on November 21, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Go get a job, right after you take a bath.

antisocial on November 21, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Such a damning statement should be easy for you to prove. Thanks

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 8:19 PM

He didn’t say it was Palin’s fault, but he didn’t defend her either…..

http://www.breitbart.tv/newt-piles-on-palin-should-be-more-careful-think-through-what-shes-saying/

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 8:27 PM

gophergirl on November 21, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Thumbs up for Team Perry!!..:)

PS..The Right Scoop has the video up!..:)

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 8:28 PM

And he quit from that position! I just love the double standards.

promachus

What you love is searching for/making up any excuse possible to try and excuse your queen’s shortcomings.

Of course, what this tells me is that no matter how good or bad of week he has, 75% GOP voters do not want him. If he is nominated, he will lose…

Over50

If that’s what it’s telling you, then all our candidates are destined to lose.

You actually think that Clinton balanced the budget?

BWAHAAAA… oohh, you almost made me think you were serious. Woo boy… I needed that laugh.

beatcanvas

Technically, neither Newt nor Clinton balanced the budget, because, despite the rhetoric, it was never balanced. But that’s a story for another day.

xblade on November 21, 2011 at 8:28 PM

gophergirl on November 21, 2011 at 8:22 PM

I gave a review of Perry’s “Center Seat” in my 7:31pm post. He did really well!

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 8:30 PM

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 8:27 PM

He agreed with the MSM, and the MSM was saying it was her fault. Even *I* defended Palin against Newt that day when it was posted here. I was disgusted with him. The MSM attack was not just against Palin, it was against the whole Tea Party.

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Thumbs up for Team Perry!!..:)

PS..The Right Scoop has the video up!..:)

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Thanks! I was reading some of the twitter response and it all sounded very positive.

I liked this one

MattMackowiak
Perry very solid on Fox News Special Report “Center Seat” segment on range of issues. Hitting his stride. Confident.

1 hour ago

gophergirl on November 21, 2011 at 8:35 PM

He didn’t say it was Palin’s fault, but he didn’t defend her either…..

idesign

In other words, aslans girl was wrong. Whether or not he defended her is immaterial. I don’t recall that being Newt’s job, or anyone elses for that matter.

xblade on November 21, 2011 at 8:41 PM

It’s interesting reading the comments (six pages) at the link I posted earlier to Newt’s comments after Tuscon. EVERYBODY in that thread took it the way I did and EVERYONE was furious with him for it.

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 8:45 PM

In other words, aslans girl was wrong. Whether or not he defended her is immaterial. I don’t recall that being Newt’s job, or anyone elses for that matter.

xblade on November 21, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Got it…

It’s no one’s job to defend fellow conservatives from attacks from the left.

How’s that working out?

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Looks like a Gingrich/Cain ticket is becoming more likely. Poor Perry just can’t come back from “You have no heart if you don’t support tuition for illegal.”

Theworldisnotenough on November 21, 2011 at 8:48 PM

The Newt who took the MSM’s side that Tuscon was somehow Palin’s fault?

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 8:29 PM

I read the story (again) and find it most disingenuous of you to say Newt blamed Palin for the shooting.
Not even close. As Perry would say: Nice….uh….ah….uh….um….TRY! Nice Try :D

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 9:02 PM

I read the story (again) and find it most disingenuous of you to say Newt blamed Palin for the shooting.
Not even close. As Perry would say: Nice….uh….ah….uh….um….TRY! Nice Try :D

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 9:02 PM

He didn’t defend her….

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 8:50 PM

I’m glad you read the comments, but did you even read the story? To be honest, this episode was one of the times I thought Palin showed a vulnerable side and it made me a little uncomfortable. And I’m a Palinista diehard.

There’s an element of that here, offering Palin (who’s only spent two years in national politics) a little hard-learned wisdom from a seasoned vet.

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 9:06 PM

I gave a review of Perry’s “Center Seat” in my 7:31pm post. He did really well!

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Now he needs to hit it out of the park tomorrow night.

gophergirl on November 21, 2011 at 9:07 PM

He didn’t defend her….

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 9:05 PM

The media took an unfair shot at Sarah and she hit back. If you think that was her shining moment, you and I will have to agree to disagree. Again, I’m a huge Palin fan and have been since the beginning. I wanted Newt on the ticket with her though.

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 9:10 PM

The media took an unfair shot at Sarah and she hit back. If you think that was her shining moment, you and I will have to agree to disagree. Again, I’m a huge Palin fan and have been since the beginning. I wanted Newt on the ticket with her though.

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Unfair shot? LOL

They said she was complicit in murder. Rather than defend Palin Newt took a shot.

Not a shining moment for Newt…

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 9:17 PM

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 9:06 PM

I have never been a fan of Palin’s, I think most people here know I don’t like her, yet even *I* saw what Newt said that day as disgusting. By saying she needs to “think through what she’s saying” is most definitely implying that because she didn’t, Tuscon was the result. Absolutely unfogiveable.

And, the cross-hairs that Palin used is quite common in politics and as we know, Laughner was in NO WAY affected by Palin’s website — he’d been stalking Giffords for YEARS before that and was insane.

Newt took the MSM’s side. He sure does fall for an awful lot of liberal memes.

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 9:18 PM

Technically, neither Newt nor Clinton balanced the budget, because, despite the rhetoric, it was never balanced. But that’s a story for another day.

xblade on November 21, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Exactly. First of all people forget we had something called “The Dot Com Bubble” money poured in and everyone was making money, all the 401K’s were going up and the treasury was benefiting… then it went bust and things have been on a downward slide since… Don’t just go with who can debate best, take some time to do some research. Read the behind-the-scenes stories of the era. Newt was famous for his temper and there is reports he took credit for what a lot of other, less famous, Republicans had a hand in. Remember his own house wanted him gone and not just as speaker.

Rapunzel on November 21, 2011 at 9:21 PM

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Well now you’re going to force me to defend the media. Criticizing her rhetoric does not really equal blaming her materially does it?

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 9:23 PM

BS…

It would have bankrupted her and her family and cost the State of Alaska millions.

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Why was everyone caught by surprise with the announcement of her resignation?

terryannonline on November 21, 2011 at 9:23 PM

In other words, aslans girl was wrong. Whether or not he defended her is immaterial. I don’t recall that being Newt’s job, or anyone elses for that matter.

xblade on November 21, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Does the DNC pay you to post this type of stuff? Just curious.

Key West Reader on November 21, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Why was everyone caught by surprise with the announcement of her resignation?

terryannonline on November 21, 2011 at 9:23 PM

Should I care?

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 9:25 PM

gophergirl on November 21, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Sounds good to me..:)

Dire Straits on November 21, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Well now you’re going to force me to defend the media. Criticizing her rhetoric does not really equal blaming her materially does it?

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 9:23 PM

What rhetoric would that be?

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Should I care?

idesign on November 21, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Alrighty. You obviously missed my point.

terryannonline on November 21, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Aslans Girl on November 21, 2011 at 9:18 PM

Are you really that lost? Newt was actually talking about the blood libel controversy. Not the cross hairs ad.
And even then, Newt never agreed that Palin was guilty of murder. You lie. Now most people know that about you too.

mike_NC9 on November 21, 2011 at 9:28 PM

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