Who wants to go on the attack against Newt?

posted at 1:30 pm on November 18, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Now that Newt Gingrich has soared to the top of the polls, at least in some of the latest surveys, conventional wisdom would be to predict a pile-on at the next debate.  That happened to Rick Perry, and the pressure produced surprisingly bad performances from the Texas governor and caused a collapse in his own polling support.  Herman Cain did a better job standing up to the debate pressure, but now his star appears to be descending as well as Gingrich’s rises.  How will Gingrich respond?  According to an analysis of all the debates from September through last week, the next time we see an attack on Gingrich will be the first time:

A Smart Politics content analysis of the last seven nationally televised debates since Rick Perry entered the race finds that Newt Gingrich is the only candidate yet to be on the receiving end of the more than 150 verbal attacks that have been levied by the Republican field.

Smart Politics first pointed out the lack of criticism Gingrich was receiving from the other candidates in a report published a month ago after the first four debates with Perry.

Now – three debates later – the numbers are even more stark.

After more than 11 hours of debate time and 158 barbs traded back and forth across the stage, not one (politically) poisoned dart has been thrown in Gingrich’s direction.

Mitt Romney has now overtaken the fading Rick Perry as the most common target of criticism during the debates, receiving 59 verbal jabs, or 37.3 percent.

Romney is followed by Perry with 55 (34.8 percent), Herman Cain with 22 (13.9 percent), Ron Paul with 10 (6.3 percent), Jon Huntsman with five (3.2 percent), Rick Santorum with four (2.5 percent), and Michele Bachmann with three (1.9 percent).

And then there is Gingrich with zero.

Until last week, there were a few good reasons for that.  First, Gingrich wasn’t a threat to anyone, nor was he a target to reach.  His numbers had slowly crept up over that period until he had started coming in third or fourth in polling, but still significantly behind either Perry and Romney or Cain and Romney.  Second-tier candidates focused their attacks on the top-tier frontrunners, which is why 86% of the attacks launched in the last seven debates went against Romney, Perry, and Cain — and 72.1% against only Perry and Romney.

The other reasons pertain to specific qualities and skills Gingrich has in debates.  He has a much better grasp on policy and data than most of the other candidates on stage, which means that attacking Gingrich entails a considerable risk of looking ignorant and ill-informed when he responds.  Perhaps more importantly, Gingrich has been very disciplined in debates this year, mostly refraining from attacks on other candidates.  Only Ron Paul has had fewer (7 to Gingrich’s 8, and Cain next at 9), and that could be a function of getting less air time in a couple of recent debates.  It’s difficult to come off well when attacking the one candidate who had professed the need for party unity and who consistently lauds the qualities of the other candidates on stage; in fact, it’s easy to look churlish and ungracious.

Still, Gingrich provides a rather target-rich environment, and Michele Bachmann has already started attacking him on the campaign trail over his “shilling” for Freddie Mac.  If the other candidates want to gain traction, they will need to go on offense and take the risks.  So far, only Romney has attacked Gingrich on stage, and he scored a couple of points doing so two debates earlier.  Romney will need to dent Gingrich’s momentum in the same way that he did with Perry, especially after the poll results today from New Hampshire, but I’d bet that we’ll hear more from Bachmann and especially Rick Santorum, who has been the most active attacker in the last seven debates.

We’ll know more in four days, but don’t be surprised to see a Newt pile-on.  Don’t be too surprised if Newt handles it successfully, either.

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I wish Mitt would go after him… perhaps Newt could shed enough light on just how weak a candidate Romney really is to make even the Romneybots rise above the smokescreen and see what a weak “conservative” Mittens truly is.

Do it, Mitt!

Push that really lame tax plan of yours, Mitt. Let’s compare!

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Yeah, Newt may be “target-rich,” but really, which one of these kids from the remedial classes wants to challenge the president of the debate club to a debate. It’s funny to watch how they all stand around reverently when he holds forth during the debates.

cynccook on November 18, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Great analysis Ed. I think we can count on ALL the other candidates, except Romney, to go after Gingrich on his substantial weaknesses. I do not expect Romney to attack unless he has to. But it will simply be comparisons to Gingrich.

For instance, Gingrich shilled for a federal administered heathcare bill with a mandate and he wrote a book about AGW. Romney never advocated a national healthcare plan and he wont spend billions implementing AGW regulations.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 1:38 PM

Even Rush Limbaugh is pulling his punches. Today he started a bit about Newt where he listed his baggage. He conveniently failed to mention his three cheating marriages. He almost forgot to mention the Pelosi on the couch thing.

Someone needs to trumpet these things to the high heavens. Newt is not the guy we need. Besides, he looks like an overgrown gnome. A mean one.

MaxMBJ on November 18, 2011 at 1:38 PM

Paul’s cultist, being lead by Lew Rockwell, Tom Woods and company are smearing Newt left and right all over internet and facebook. They did the same thing to Cain, Bachman and Romney.

jp on November 18, 2011 at 1:38 PM

Go Newt!

JellyToast on November 18, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Yeah, Newt may be “target-rich,” but really, which one of these kids from the remedial classes wants to challenge the president of the debate club to a debate. It’s funny to watch how they all stand around reverently when he holds forth during the debates.

cynccook on November 18, 2011 at 1:36 PM

It’s like when Mike Tyson joined his local fight club. Surprisingly he could never get a match going.

Kataklysmic on November 18, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Not a real Newt fan, but he does have the advantage of having had so many skeletons pulled from the closet over the past several decades that getting anything to stick is going to be rough.

Nathan_OH on November 18, 2011 at 1:39 PM

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 1:35 PM

You read my mind.

ElectricPhase on November 18, 2011 at 1:40 PM

I recall a Star Wars saying once “Your overconfidence is your (weakness)…”

g2825m on November 18, 2011 at 1:40 PM

jooo mess wit da bull…

29Victor on November 18, 2011 at 1:41 PM

I would bet all of those on stage have been on take from Fannie and Freddie. It wouldn’t be prudent for any of them to point the finger at Newt.

rickyricardo on November 18, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Newt was brilliant in making sure his campaign is about only attacking Obama and not the other candidates. His refusal to go there and his constant comments of “We are all on the same side” and the real enemy is Obama have obviously struck a chord.

Who is going to go after a guy that has been preaching positivity and look like the mean villian?

Great campaign strategy that’s for sure.

gophergirl on November 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM

see what a weak “conservative” Mittens truly is.

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Where have you been? Even the so called Romneybots do not deny Romney’s failure to be a true conservative. The issue is that he is not as leftist as you claim with your hyperbolic rantings. And Gingrich avoids confronting his GOP opponents BECAUSE of his target rich past. And believe it or not when Gingrich was shilling for Obamacare and AGW wasn’t that long ago. And lets not forget his comments on illegal immigration a few years back. That caused a lot of consternation in conservative circles.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM

I recall a Star Wars saying once “Your overconfidence is your (weakness)…”

g2825m on November 18, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Emperor: “Your faith in your friends is yours.”

Sorry, couldn’t resist the Return of the Jedi reference.

I’d bet that we’ll hear more from Bachmann and especially Rick Santorum, who has been the most active attacker in the last seven debates.

I don’t know about Santorum, Ed. This is the same guy who has repeatedly begun his debate answers with “As Newt said…” or “In Congress, Newt and I…”. Now all of a sudden he’s gonna attack the person he’s constantly been gravy-training off of in previous debates? Doubtful.

Doughboy on November 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM

It’s like when Mike Tyson joined his local fight club. Surprisingly he could never get a match going.

Kataklysmic on November 18, 2011 at 1:39 PM

LOL!

cynccook on November 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM

I don’t have to like Newt to think he would probably be one of the best candidates to unwind Obama’s three year assualt on our democracy. Put Bachmann on the ticket to keep him focused.

DanMan on November 18, 2011 at 1:44 PM

Crabs ….
…..in a bucket….

Skandia Recluse on November 18, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Gingrich wasn’t a threat to anyone

He still isn’t.

Mitt Romney has now overtaken the fading Rick Perry as the most common target of criticism during the debates, receiving 59 verbal jabs, or 37.3 percent. Romney is followed by Perry with 55 (34.8 percent), Herman Cain with 22 (13.9 percent), Ron Paul with 10 (6.3 percent), Jon Huntsman with five (3.2 percent), Rick Santorum with four (2.5 percent), and Michele Bachmann with three (1.9 percent).

Those numbers say more than most polling does.

Vashta.Nerada on November 18, 2011 at 1:47 PM

There’s a hardcore leftist family who lives in a house near mine. They tend to have all the trendy leftwing bumper stickers on their cars (along with a funny non-political one: “Sometimes I wake up grumpy. Other times I let him sleep.”)

Anyway, a few months ago, they put a “Newter Newt” sticker on one of their cars, and I thought that was really weird. I mean, what’s the point? Boldly fighting the hot political battles of 15 years ago? It would be supremely ironic if they turned out to be right, and Newt really is relevant in the next presidential race.

jwolf on November 18, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Great analysis Ed. I think we can count on ALL the other candidates, except Romney, to go after Gingrich on his substantial weaknesses. I do not expect Romney to attack unless he has to. But it will simply be comparisons to Gingrich.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 1:38 PM

Bwa ha ha ha… ROFL…

What? You expect all the other candidates (except Romney) to go after Gingrich?

Pray tell, why will they want to?

Currently, Gingrich is ahaping up to be the biggest threat to Mr. “Inevitable” unless Perry starts to gain traction again. So why will the others want to attack him?

And who will do that? Perry? Cain? Probably Bachmann and Santorum but those two ceased to be relevant like three debates ago.

Sorry, no dice. Romney will have to launch his own attacks this time and if he is successful in taking Gingrich down, Perry will rise to take his place.

So I guess you can choose between Perry or Gingrich. It’s a win-win for me if either of them beats Romney so I don’t really care. :)

TheRightMan on November 18, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Who is going to go after a guy that has been preaching positivity and look like the mean villian?

Great campaign strategy that’s for sure.

gophergirl on November 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Good gravy! The display of one dimensional thinking is astounding! The only chance the other candidates (except Romney) have of resurrecting their campaigns is to win back the conservative vote from Gingrich. That means they have nothing to lose if they attack him. And they will go after him on several issues. He supported amnesty, Obamacare, Freddie/Fannie, and AGW. His real opponent, Romney, never supported any of those positions so he will remain above the fray and only go after Gingrich iof needs be.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Great analysis Ed. I think we can count on ALL the other candidates, except Romney, to go after Gingrich on his substantial weaknesses. I do not expect Romney to attack unless he has to. But it will simply be comparisons to Gingrich.

For instance, Gingrich shilled for a federal administered heathcare bill with a mandate and he wrote a book about AGW. Romney never advocated a national healthcare plan and he wont spend billions implementing AGW regulations.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 1:38 PM

It’s so funny that it was Newt’s Congress that put the breaks on HillaryCare. I’m 100% positive that the Clintons were all about universal health care, if Newt had truly been “shilling” for mandated insurance I’m sure we would have had it long ago. The truth of the matter is MA ended up with it, and in my world this is the ultimate shill: http://reddogreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/romney-signs-massachusetts-heath-care-law.jpg

preallocated on November 18, 2011 at 1:50 PM

One argument against Newt that rarely comes up is health and stamina. Perry and Cain tired rather easily. Newt doesnt only because he doesnt really do retail campaigning. Guy is as fit a John Belushi.

I dont think the question is whether he can win, its whether he can make it to the finish line w/o collapsing or making Honolulu his campaign headquarters.

swamp_yankee on November 18, 2011 at 1:50 PM

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Let’s talk 2011.

Mitt still defends mandates.
He still believes that coal is evil.
His tax plan is to the left of everybody (even Huntsman).
He has no plan to realistically shrink the government.
His vague statements about SS and Medicare are to the left of the field.

Weak tea. Yeah, he’s better than Obama, but then again, so is my cat.

He’s a lousy candidate. I can’t understand why anyone to the right of Obama who isn’t dependent on DC (see: Rove) would support this guy.

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Don’t be surprised to see a Newt pile-on. Don’t be too surprised if Newt handles it successfully, either.

Oh, he will.

nickj116 on November 18, 2011 at 1:51 PM

I suspect Newt will be ready for any attack. I hope he doesn’t respond in kind. Blunt the attack and move on and you will be the adult in the room, Newt.

Extrafishy on November 18, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Bachmann attacking Newt?? LOL! Now, there’s a winning strategy.

a capella on November 18, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Good gravy! The display of one dimensional thinking is astounding! The only chance the other candidates (except Romney) have of resurrecting their campaigns is to win back the conservative vote from Gingrich. That means they have nothing to lose if they attack him. And they will go after him on several issues. He supported amnesty, Obamacare, Freddie/Fannie, and AGW. His real opponent, Romney, never supported any of those positions so he will remain above the fray and only go after Gingrich iof needs be.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 1:49 PM

I’m not saying they shouldn’t attack him but the optics are there because Newt set them in place. The candidate that goes after him is going to look “mean”.

gophergirl on November 18, 2011 at 1:53 PM

Compare the tax plans:

http://www.southbendtribune.com/sns-graphics-gop-tax-comparison-gx,0,3811906.graphic

Romney’s weak plan sucks and contains the Leftist/Obama threshold of $200K/yr as the marker for “the rich”.

Mittens, go after Newt on tax plans. Please!

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 1:53 PM

Go Newt……away…

sandee on November 18, 2011 at 1:55 PM

Let’s talk 2011.

Mitt still defends mandates.
He still believes that coal is evil.
His tax plan is to the left of everybody (even Huntsman).
He has no plan to realistically shrink the government.
His vague statements about SS and Medicare are to the left of the field.

1. No. He doesnt defend federal mandates.
2. No. He doesnt think coal is evil.
3. His plan has a reasonable chance at passing w/o blowing a hole in the budget.
4. No. He’s detailed multiple plans to shrink the government.
5. His plans about SS and Medicare are the same as everyone elses. His rhetoric isnt as harsh because harsh rhetoric is all phony.

swamp_yankee on November 18, 2011 at 1:55 PM

SANTORUM……….because it’s his turn at the top!!!

PappyD61 on November 18, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Everybody, save his supporters.

CPT. Charles on November 18, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Why is Bachmann still in the race?

cpaulus on November 18, 2011 at 1:57 PM

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 1:51 PM

+1

Laura in Maryland on November 18, 2011 at 1:57 PM

And who will do that? Perry? Cain?

TheRightMan on November 18, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Yep, there is more of that one dimensional thinking I mentioned earlier. You need to get out of the way of your bias. It has eliminated your ability to see clearly.

hahahaha…why wont Perry and Cain try to take down the guy who is taking the votes they used to have? Yeah riiiight, they came this far and are intimidated by the awesomely awesome awesomeness of Gingrich and will just give up.

ROTFLMMFAO!!!

Wait a sec while I stop laughing at you….hahaha

OKAY, because Cain and Perry are losing most of their support, they will go after Gingrich. That affords Romney the opportunity to stay above the fray because he knows he is the alternative to the ideologically pure conservatives. When they have exposed their weaknesses, Romney is the last man standing. That has been his plan all along. And it’s working.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 1:58 PM

I would bet all of those on stage have been on take from Fannie and Freddie. It wouldn’t be prudent for any of them to point the finger at Newt.

rickyricardo on November 18, 2011 at 1:41 PM

You’d win that bet:
Bachmann Hates Government Programs, Except Her Fannie Mae Loan

andBachmann got GSE loan days before calling for end to GSEs

cynccook on November 18, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Go Newt……away…

sandee on November 18, 2011 at 1:55 PM

A week or so ago, I would have agreed with you.

*sigh*

Laura in Maryland on November 18, 2011 at 1:59 PM

One argument against Newt that rarely comes up is health and stamina. Perry and Cain tired rather easily. Newt doesnt only because he doesnt really do retail campaigning. Guy is as fit a John Belushi.

I dont think the question is whether he can win, its whether he can make it to the finish line w/o collapsing or making Honolulu his campaign headquarters.

swamp_yankee on November 18, 2011 at 1:50 PM

His age and stamina is why he needs to be sure and pick someone like West or Ryan as VP

cpaulus on November 18, 2011 at 1:59 PM

LOL… I love the desperation being shown by the Romneybots on this forum.

You guys elevated debates to be the be-all and the end-all. We wanted the best debater to face Obama and it looks like we are going to get him so why all the angst?

Bwa ha ha ha…

TheRightMan on November 18, 2011 at 2:00 PM

if Newt had truly been “shilling” for mandated insurance

preallocated on November 18, 2011 at 1:50 PM

Ouch for you.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 2:03 PM

We’ll know more in four days, but don’t be surprised to see a Newt pile-on. Don’t be too surprised if Newt handles it successfully, either.

newt is a superhero.

sesquipedalian on November 18, 2011 at 2:03 PM

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 1:58 PM

In case you haven’t noticed, csdeven, Perry is currently focused on telling voters what he stands for, what his policies are…

Trust me – Perry is not going to waste any more precious debate time attacking anybody.

If voters choose Gingrich over him, then so be it. Anyone but Romney will be fine with Perry. The icing on the cake? Romney goes away with his best buddy Cain and his attack dogs Bachmann and Santorum.

TheRightMan on November 18, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Mitt still defends mandates.
He still believes that coal is evil.
His tax plan is to the left of everybody (even Huntsman).
He has no plan to realistically shrink the government.
His vague statements about SS and Medicare are to the left of the field.

Weak tea. Yeah, he’s better than Obama, but then again, so is my cat.

He’s a lousy candidate. I can’t understand why anyone to the right of Obama who isn’t dependent on DC (see: Rove) would support this guy.

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 1:51 PM

mankai,
swamp yankee beat me to it BUT where do you do your research?

You and everyone else against Romney has still never told me where Romney is NOT conservative here:

Romney’s record:

Cut taxes in MA – Check

Closed loopholes and raised fees as Reagan did – Check

Voted pro-life bills as GOV – Check

Voted and eased 2nd Amendment bills in MA – Check

Against illegal immigration – Check

Signed bill against Illegal Immigration Recv tuition breaks – Check

Build the complete fence along the border – Check

For Defense of Marriage Act – Check

For Cut, Cap, and Balance – Check

Pro expansion of the military and keeping GITMO open – Check

Drilling in ANWR – Check

Investing in new technologies for oil – Check

Develop energy technology like nuclear or liquefied coal – Check

Do you know what Gingrich’s stance is on illegal immigration and tuition breaks for illegals is? Just askin’…

g2825m on November 18, 2011 at 2:06 PM

1. No. He doesnt defend federal mandates.
2. No. He doesnt think coal is evil.
3. His plan has a reasonable chance at passing w/o blowing a hole in the budget.
4. No. He’s detailed multiple plans to shrink the government.
5. His plans about SS and Medicare are the same as everyone elses. His rhetoric isnt as harsh because harsh rhetoric is all phony.

swamp_yankee on November 18, 2011 at 1:55 PM

1. The “Communism at the state level is really conservative” argument.
2. I will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people, and that plant, that plant kills people.” Mittens.
3. He believes that revenue is the problem and that “rich people” who make $200/yr make enough money already.
4. He won’t close the EPA because his “green quarterback” works there now. I can’t seem to find his detailed plan at his campaign site. And I can only find a very vague statement about SS and Midicare.
5. His plan is to stop a speeding train towards destruction and replace it with a slightly slower train… speeding towards destruction.

His 25% corporate tax plan is horrible and he sees no problem with current tax rates.

Very weak tea, indeed.

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM

if Newt had truly been “shilling” for mandated insurance

preallocated on November 18, 2011 at 1:50 PM

Ouch for you.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 2:03 PM

haha +1000

The one guy that has the experience and track record for the EXACT dilemma facing our country and yet he is the one on HA that they do not want…that’s smart power there!

g2825m on November 18, 2011 at 2:10 PM

http://www.southbendtribune.com/sns-graphics-gop-tax-comparison-gx,0,3811906.graphic

Don’t look at the names… now rank them in terms of liberal to conservative… Mitt is the most liberal and his tax plan is hardly different from Obama’s.

If you added Santorum, Bachmann, Obama and Paul… Mittens’ plan would rank 8 out of 9 on the Leftist scale.

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 2:12 PM

Either he weathers it or he doesn’t. He seems to have a good attitude about it.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2011 at 2:12 PM

Either he weathers it or he doesn’t. He seems to have a good attitude about it.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2011 at 2:12 PM

true true Cindy! The Dawgs are a comin’…for all of them no matter what!

We need to eventually come together for whomever our candidate is or we will have another four years our country cannot handle.

g2825m on November 18, 2011 at 2:14 PM

If you added Santorum, Bachmann, Obama and Paul… Mittens’ plan would rank 8 out of 9 on the Leftist scale.

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 2:12 PM

You get the idea… but to be clear, Mittens plan is the closest to the Obama Leftist ideal out of the 8 GOP candidates.

Even Hunstman is to Mitten’s right.

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Let’s talk 2011.

Mitt still defends mandates.

Misleading. He supports mandates for those states who chose them.

He still believes that coal is evil.

Misleading. He believes that alternatives to coal are worth looking for.

His tax plan is to the left of everybody (even Huntsman).

Flat out lie. Keeping the Bush tax cuts is VERY CONSERVATIVE.

He has no plan to realistically shrink the government.

Lie. He will repeal Obamacare and all Obama regulations.

His vague statements about SS and Medicare are to the left of the field.

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 1:51 PM

More lies. 59 point plan. Go read it.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 2:17 PM

The candidate that goes after him is going to look “mean”.

gophergirl on November 18, 2011 at 1:53 PM

During the vetting of Gingrich, no one will care as long as the issues are not out of bounds.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Romney wont attack Newt in the debate. He will wait and attack him with lots of ads if need be.

johnt on November 18, 2011 at 2:21 PM

cynccook on November 18, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Don’t count on it. If Bachmann has the same baggage, exposing Gingrich weakens him more than her.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 2:22 PM

csdeven: I am very happy that you can read the future with certainty.

The issue with Romney is that he has a proven track record of changing his positions. His stated positions right now could very well be the most conservative of any candidate’s. It does not matter. What matters is that he cannot be trusted that his stated positions will be his actual positions.

Also, if you believe that ‘keeping the Bush tax cuts’ is ‘VERY CONSERVATIVE’, you and I clearly have different definitions of conservatism.

But then, Romney is hardly alone in this. All of the candidates have the same issues. Romney is simply the GOP writ large. The sooner both parties are absolutely destroyed as political entities, the sooner this country can begin to rebuild.

I find the belief that the GOP will do anything to fix the situation in this country as absurd on its face as the belief that the Democrats have any political motive except their own power.

Scott H on November 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

g2825m on November 18, 2011 at 2:14 PM

I’m sure we will but it’s going to get uglier before it gets better. Each candidate has got people who can not forgive their transgressions (and they all have them) and they will be vocal but in the end it will be most of us against Obama.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

In case you haven’t noticed, csdeven, Perry is currently focused on telling voters what he stands for, what his policies are…

TheRightMan on November 18, 2011 at 2:04 PM

And it isn’t working as all the polling shows. Perry can only take two courses of action. Get out or try to win. With $15 million to spend, he is going to stay in. His nicey-nice ads aren’t working and that means defeating Gingrich by attacking him on stage and in ads.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

The sooner both parties are absolutely destroyed as political entities, the sooner this country can begin to rebuild.

I find the belief that the GOP will do anything to fix the situation in this country as absurd on its face as the belief that the Democrats have any political motive except their own power.

Scott H on November 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Hear hear.

Kataklysmic on November 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

Romney wont attack Newt in the debate. He will wait and attack him with lots of ads if need be.

johnt on November 18, 2011 at 2:21 PM

..betcha he doesn’t. And the reason Obama doesn’t want a piece of him is because he thinks he can kick the crap out of Newt in the general.

Someone’s gonna be REAL disappointed.

The War Planner on November 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Because of his true intellect, education and vast warehouse of knowledge, both his fellow contenders and the pseudo-intellectual left will be very careful before they attack Newt. The US media is so shallow that they will only attempt brief drive-by criticisms while attempting to escape before they he challenges them head on.

rplat on November 18, 2011 at 2:29 PM

I’m sure we will but it’s going to get uglier before it gets better. Each candidate has got people who can not forgive their transgressions (and they all have them) and they will be vocal but in the end it will be most of us against Obama.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

Well, I keep having to tell myself that people will not actually vote for the “Ralph Nader’s and Ross Perot’s” if Romney is the nominee. I hope I am wrong here.

The goal is to get Obama out of office and ANY of our candidates will be a great improvement in this area as they are all for repeal of Obamacare, electing conservative justices to the SCOTUS, cutting taxes and reducing spending, opening up OUR country for drilling, etc etc…

g2825m on November 18, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Because of his true intellect, education and vast warehouse of knowledge, both his fellow contenders and the pseudo-intellectual left will be very careful before they attack Newt. The US media is so shallow that they will only attempt brief drive-by criticisms while attempting to escape before they he challenges them head on.

Fixed that.

rplat on November 18, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Scott H on November 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Believe me, I have been very well aware of Romney’s RINOtastic qualities since 2008. I was hoping someone would emerge that can get the indie vote. I was very excited about Perry and Cain until they opened their mouths. I have always been concerned with Gingrich because of his support for amnesty, federal healthcare, AGW, etc, and his personal baggage. Even at that, I was hoping for a Romney alternative that can win.

Well, it looks like Romney is going to be our guy and I will support him 100% against Obama. BUT, the day I vote for him, I will have a clothespin on my nose and a couple of barf bags.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Newt v Obama? It won’t be a landslide, it will be a bloodbath.

Rainsford on November 18, 2011 at 2:36 PM

Because of his true intellect, education and vast warehouse of knowledge, both his fellow contenders and the pseudo-intellectual left will be very careful before they attack Newt. The US media is so shallow that they will only attempt brief drive-by criticisms while attempting to escape before they he challenges them head on.

rplat on November 18, 2011 at 2:29 PM

Newt v Obama? It won’t be a landslide, it will be a bloodbath.

Rainsford on November 18, 2011 at 2:36 PM

..well, let’s not get our dress up over our heads just yet, girls.

The War Planner on November 18, 2011 at 2:38 PM

Well, it looks like Romney is going to be our guy and I will support him 100% against Obama. BUT, the day I vote for him, I will have a clothespin on my nose and a couple of barf bags.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM

..that’s good (and honorable) enough, old son.

The War Planner on November 18, 2011 at 2:39 PM

g2825m on November 18, 2011 at 2:30 PM

A third party candidate would be problematic for all involved.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2011 at 2:41 PM

..that’s good (and honorable) enough, old son.

The War Planner on November 18, 2011 at 2:39 PM

A GOP senate and house with TEA Party pressure on it might just make for a great Romney presidency.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 2:41 PM

The War Planner on November 18, 2011 at 2:39 PM

Someone who works so hard against all other candidates will not have a clothespin and will be dancing a jig.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM

Newt was brilliant in making sure his campaign is about only attacking Obama and not the other candidates.
gophergirl on November 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM

From one “one dimensional thinker” to another, I completely agree with you. Newt is the elder statesman in this race and he has lived up to the role completely. It has made the others very cautious with deference to that. Will they come after him now? It will certainly be at their own peril because I’m not so sure that they have nothing to lose.

lynncgb on November 18, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Hey, here’s a strange idea. Instead of attacking other GOP candidates, attack Obama and point out how you’d solve the country’s problems.

John Deaux on November 18, 2011 at 2:47 PM

I don’t see Gov. Romney taking Newt on directly, my guess is covert behind the scenes attach with no fingerprints.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Well, it looks like Romney is going to be our guy
csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Nice try with the old fait accompli narrative backhand. And good timing — as “our guy” drops in every poll.

rrpjr on November 18, 2011 at 2:58 PM

These are the type of hills Gingrich will have to overcome especially now casting himself as an outsider or Tea Party favorite yet he was in the thick of things during and after his years in Congress.

The Post’s Dan Eggen digs into another branch of Newt Gingrich’s post-speakership career as a lavishly paid consultant and policy advocate, looking at the millions he earned at the Center for Health Transformation:

A think tank founded by GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich collected at least $37 million over the past eight years from major health-care companies and industry groups, offering special access to the former House speaker and other perks, according to records and interviews.

The Center for Health Transformation, which opened in 2003, brought in dues of as much as $200,000 per year from insurers and other health-care firms, offering some of them “access to Newt Gingrich” and “direct Newt interaction,” according to promotional materials. The biggest funders, including firms such as AstraZeneca, Blue Cross Blue Shield and Novo Nordisk, were also eligible to receive discounts on “products and workshops” from other Gingrich groups.

It’s not the black mark that a stint at Freddie Mac might be, for Gingrich, but it’s another reminder to outsider-loving, anti-Washington voters that Gingrich is the most successful inside-the-Beltway entrepreneur in the GOP presidential field.

g2825m on November 18, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Newt is being propped up by the media to further split the Conservative vote and ensure that Mitt is the nominee. They did the same thing to get McCain the nomination. Look for the media to begin taking down Newt in a couple of weeks, and then it’ll be Santorum who is on the rise. In the end the only candidates who will have gone the entire primary season without serious attacks by the media will be Romney – and he’ll be the nominee.

A nomination of any of the pro-war candidates (Romney, Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, Cain) will lead to a strong independent or third party run from Americanselect (who has over $20M and 2M supporters) or another group. Buddy Roemer has already said he’s considering running third party since the Republican party (that he has been a Congressman and Governor under) is marginalizing him. The GOP will lose if that happens.

popularpeoplesfront on November 18, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Someone who works so hard against all other candidates will not have a clothespin and will be dancing a jig.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM

You are an idiot.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 3:06 PM

And lets not forget his comments on illegal immigration a few years back. That caused a lot of consternation in conservative circles.

Not even a few years back- just a few months back, he was saying we should form local community boards to decide which illegals amnesty (what could go wrong…?).

Jon0815 on November 18, 2011 at 3:07 PM

It will certainly be at their own peril because I’m not so sure that they have nothing to lose.

lynncgb on November 18, 2011 at 2:47 PM

What “peril” is that? Is Gingrich going to stay ahead of them in the polls if they go after him?

Seriously? THAT is your rational?

lol

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 3:08 PM

High praise considering the source.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2011 at 3:13 PM

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Remind me to send you a chew toy for Christmas.

lynncgb on November 18, 2011 at 3:15 PM

g2825m on November 18, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Normally I would embrace someone from outside but Mr. Cain is faltering and I am not sure that someone who has walked the country through big changes isn’t an asset. Just as Gov. Romney’s business and governmental executive experience would be very helpful.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM

I hope Romney attacks Newt. I always get a laugh when Romney goes into his weak and neurotic little giggle meltdown when confronting other men.

Punchenko on November 18, 2011 at 3:22 PM

That would be like Iran deciding to targeted kill a diplomat on United States soil just a short hop skip and a jump away from where the man who controls our military lives.

astonerii on November 18, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Newt has his warts, but given that Romney (and his minions and non-Republican sympathizers) has been having such a good time while he let Perry, Cain, Bachmann get savaged by the Left and the MSM a-holes, it has been such fun to watch Romney squirm. NH (Mitt’s top prize) a tie with Newt. Iowa is now Newt’s by double digits.

The Democrats had thought that the inevitably of Mitt Ronmey would give them a McCain do-over, with the Roman columns being dusted off. Newt has been their foil for two decades and both sides have caulked up their share win-s and loss-s.

But, up against Pres**ent “LightWorker” Obama, Newt will not only look like the “smartest man in the room” but Newt will be the “smartest man in the room” and that has them worried.

J_Crater on November 18, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Punchenko on November 18, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Don’t exceed the allotted time limit.

Cindy Munford on November 18, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Very weak tea, indeed.

mankai on November 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Not any more weaker than the hyperbole you based your criticisms on.

Pcoop on November 18, 2011 at 3:36 PM

The issue with Romney is that he has a proven track record of changing his positions.

Scott H on November 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

What politician hasn’t?

Complaining that a politician changes their positions is like complaining that water is too wet.

Focus on what they’ve done and their accomplishments. When you’re looking at a candidate to fill a job you’re hiring for, are you going to look at what they said two years ago or are you going to look at their qualifications and accomplishments in their past jobs?

What weighs more?

Pcoop on November 18, 2011 at 4:08 PM

I wrote here that Michele Bachmann blew her campaign up by attacking Newt.

LFRGary on November 18, 2011 at 4:53 PM

[Newt] has a much better grasp on policy and data than most of the other candidates on stage, which means that attacking Gingrich entails a considerable risk of looking ignorant and ill-informed when he responds.

On an earlier column by Tina, this is pretty much the reason why I said journalists were likely to become more deferential to Newt when it came to the questions they asked him. Regardless of their political biases, if they think Newt’s going to make them look like fools, which could be a disaster for their careers, they’re not going to try for his juggler.

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on November 18, 2011 at 8:05 PM