PR experts: Occupy movement a self-defeating disaster

posted at 9:24 am on November 18, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

The Occupy Movement succeeded early in seizing a media narrative, a feat that public-relations experts know is hardly easy to achieve.  These professionals should be impressed by the ability of the movement to get its message across, right?  Well, that’s the real problem, according to PR Daily.  They don’t have one — and the media coverage is exposing the ugliness in the vacuum of a message (via Instapundit):

Dorothy Crenshaw, CEO and creative director of Crenshaw Communications, praised OWS’s canny cultivation of the media and public sympathy. Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s evacuation of Zuccotti Park seems to have strengthened the movement, she suggests. But she sees risks in the protesters’ tactics of shutting down streets and subway stations.

She adds: “If they start to disrupt the commute or work schedule of so-called ‘regular people’—part of that huge 99 percent who are just trying to get through the workday and earn a living—I think they risk losing the very group that should be most sympathetic.”

The movement’s PR efforts drew derision from Fraser P. Seitel, managing partner of Emerald Partners and author of The Practice of Public Relations. OWS, he says, has “botched an opportunity to capture public opinion and achieve something. Americans, by every measure, distrust the politicians who run Washington and lead major institutions. So public opinion was ripe for the plucking.”

However, the movement blew it by having no overriding purpose, stated goals, or visible leadership, he says, and it is increasingly perceived as a bunch of publicity-hungry complainers intent on disrupting others who are making a living.

“Occupy Wall Street is right about one thing,” he says. “The whole world is watching. And it’s generally repulsed by what it’s seen.”

That sounds like a fair description, doesn’t it?  In Oakland, they threatened workers at the docks and succeeded in shutting down commerce not for the 1% but for 100% of the people who depend on the port.  They also went on a vandalism spree that didn’t even spare their corporate lackeys. In New York, the Occupiers tried to disrupt the New York Stock Exchange, where where 70% of Americans have investments through direct purchases or retirement accounts.

And did they seriously think that disrupting the subways would bother the 1%?  I’ve been on the subways in the Big Apple, and I’m pretty sure that wasn’t the Upper Crust riding along with me.  Whose bright idea was that? Probably the same person who announced that shutting down Wall Street was their big goal, an aspiration from which they had to walk back significantly by the end of the day:

Organized weeks ago, the so-called day of action came two days after the police cleared the Occupy Wall Street encampment from Zuccotti Park in Manhattan in an early morning raid. After the protesters were ousted from the park that had become their de facto headquarters, a judge agreed that they could return later that day, albeit without their camping gear. They looked to Thursday to gauge the support and mettle that the movement had retained.

“We failed to close the stock exchange, but we took back our park,” said Adam Farooqui, 25, of Queens. “That was a real victory.”

Er, right.  They had already been allowed back in the park; they cannot camp there overnight, however, and the police will eject anyone who pitches a tent in Zuccotti Park.  Some OWS protesters yesterday complained that they were not being allowed out of the park, where police bottled them up in order to keep the streets clear.  Their “real victory” was apparently the status quo ante, which qualifies as spin — and spin that’s not impressing the experts at all.

Steven Crowder is here to help, however.  He put together a montage of Occupy’s Greatest Hits, and I bet the PR firms can really do something with this.  Don’t call them, babe, they’ll call you.   Maybe they’ll do a lunch with you, but only if they’ve had their shots first.

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“The whole world is watching. And it’s generally repulsed.”

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen another post where the tagline to well explained the entire theme of the thread itself. Can the TL be voted as the threadwinner?

hawkdriver on November 18, 2011 at 9:27 AM

hawkdriver on November 18, 2011 at 9:27 AM

I think it can. That’s in the by-laws somewhere, right?

Washington Nearsider on November 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM

The movement’s PR efforts drew derision from Fraser P. Seitel, managing partner of Emerald Partners and author of The Practice of Public Relations.

He’s one of the 1% bastards!!

KeepOhioRed on November 18, 2011 at 9:32 AM

Mark Levin: “I mean, couldn’t Obama have saved this for next summer?!”

Marcus on November 18, 2011 at 9:33 AM

With the exception of progressives in America, who happen to be cheering OWS onward towards more extreme activities.

astonerii on November 18, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Yes, the more I see of OWS the more they look like the Tea Party. The similarities are uncanny./s

dirtseller on November 18, 2011 at 9:38 AM

“What do we want?

___________

When do we want it?

Now!”

The silence is louder than the drum circles.

Look, this is just another attempt by the media to find a movement to counter their hatred for the Tea Party. Remember the Coffee Party? Oh yeah, that was was gonna rock the nation. Turns out all they did was stain their teeth. How about the No Labels Party? Apparently they couldn’t find their parking spaces and the meetings never happened.

These OWSers are nothing but an incoherent mish-mash of anti-everythingers. The media tried to assign a goal to this group of drug-addicts and it utterly failed.

BKeyser on November 18, 2011 at 9:39 AM

OWS is obviously a Jewish plot to get people to hate Socialism. Because no one in their right mind is stupid enough to believe that massive disruption of ordinary Americans doing ordinary things would create popular support. So obviously this is some sort of nefarious plot by super genius, evil Jew people to discredit social movements and people power.

There is probably a how to section for just such a plot in the Articles of Krypton. I lost the copy I had stolen from this Jew I met once who, for some odd reason, liked to yell, “Allah Akbar!” when drunk. So if someone else could look that up for me I would appreciate it. Thanks.

NotCoach on November 18, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Next time they should just do Halloween finger paintings on the shop windows :)

Seth Halpern on November 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM

It doesn’t help that OWS protested a metonym, “Wall Street,” and an abstraction, “corporate greed.” When your targets of protest are mere phrases, your protest isn’t going to succeed. To the extent that OWS did have a point, namely, that cronyism is bad, it nonetheless failed to take aim at cronyism’s main source: the federal government. Both parties are guilty of cronyism and corporate bailouts come from the government.

Bill Ramey on November 18, 2011 at 9:43 AM

“Guests, like fish, begin to smell after three days.” – Benjamin Franklin The OWS’ers have overstayed their welcome.

cjtony97 on November 18, 2011 at 9:44 AM

Zuccotti Park = Pig Pen

vboscaino on November 18, 2011 at 9:45 AM

When I read that they are going to transition into a political movement, that Obama’s x green jobs Czar or whatever he was.. said they’re going to get 2000 representatives to run for offices soon.. well.. heck.. they already have that! It’s called the Democrat party.

JellyToast on November 18, 2011 at 9:45 AM

hawkdriver on November 18, 2011 at 9:27 AM
I think it can. That’s in the by-laws somewhere, right?

Washington Nearsider on November 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM

Bishop has to sign off on it.

katy the mean old lady on November 18, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Steve Crowder does Alinsky’s” ridicule rule” proud!

parteagirl on November 18, 2011 at 9:48 AM

The Beer Hall Putsch was also a failure. And I hate the Godwinizing, but I’m trying to think of other marxist inspired way too soon attempts at taking over that were utter failures.

rbj on November 18, 2011 at 9:48 AM

She adds: “If they start to disrupt the commute or work schedule of so-called ‘regular people’—part of that huge 99 percent who are just trying to get through the workday and earn a living—I think they risk losing the very group that should be most sympathetic.”

Yeah.. one of the contestants on X Factor wore an Occupy T shirt while he sung last week. I was thinking.. you freaking moron.. maybe some Occupy people ought to go out there right now and steal that stage from you and destroy your chances at the 5 million contract! I wonder how you’d feel about the movement then!

JellyToast on November 18, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Wow, who could have guessed? Oh yeah, me and a thousand other people.

vcferlita on November 18, 2011 at 9:49 AM

“The whole world is watching. And it’s generally repulsed.”

I was repulsed right off.

docflash on November 18, 2011 at 9:49 AM

In the local paper the comments, maybe 10 or 12 of people fuming over having their day disrupted snd then one occupier saying how their victory is the overwhelming support they have and that the did close down a bank.
Right.

ORconservative on November 18, 2011 at 9:50 AM


The OWS should be SWO [Social World Organization] It is not Capitalism, it is because of the Govt. The Democratic Party is creating so many dependent helpless people who do not know [and many don`t care] about being upwardly mobile, so the more people dependent on Govt the more the Democrats will hold power, and that means the sooner the US will have a Sovereign Debt Crisis. Those people should open their eyes and see that Socialism is collapsing all over the world and yet they blindly follow Obama down the same road. It is not that it is a surprise because that ideology was clearly evident in Obama`s books before he was elected ,and then when he included various Marxists in his administration

HAGGS99 on November 18, 2011 at 9:50 AM

When the music’s over…..turn out the lights.

tommyboy on November 18, 2011 at 9:53 AM

The whole world may be watching, but some of us are smelling, too!
Hilarious OWSer video.

bloggless on November 18, 2011 at 9:53 AM

I have yet to see a “hard hitting, in-depth journalist” explain why these people can afford to take a month off and “protest”.

Aren’t they responsible to maintain a job, attend to their studies?

Oh, now I get it. They have no responsibilities. They contribute nothing to society or the economy.

Tell me again, Mayor, why we should admire and follow them.

FOWG1 on November 18, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Failure was inevitable because they have no redeeming qualities and they aren’t even trying to fake it.

I hope the media and idiot liberal politicians keep trying to prop them up.

forest on November 18, 2011 at 9:59 AM

Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s evacuation of Zuccotti Park seems to have strengthened the movement, she (Dorothy Crenshaw) suggests.

Why in the world would the evacuation for health and safety reasons strengthen the movement? How is breaking the law through squatting and negatively affecting local businesses a positive PR ploy? From the beginning, the target of these protesters was wrong; their focus should have been on big government’s intrusion on the markets and banking. The problem is government’s overreach and corruption.

The fact that the media never investigated the communists’ and anarchists’ role in shaping the protest speaks volumes about their non-existent credentials as honest brokers of information.

onlineanalyst on November 18, 2011 at 9:59 AM

“We failed to close the stock exchange, but we took back our park,” said Adam Farooqui, 25, of Queens. “That was a real victory.”

It was never about keeping anyone out of the park. It was about them living their 24/7, trashing the place, and creating a nuisance. They won nothing.

Blake on November 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Thank God for “experts.” If not for these PR “experts” I’d have never been able to discern whether OWS was totally awesome or not.

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mankai on November 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM

“Occupy Wall Street is right about one thing,” he says. “The whole world is watching. And it’s generally repulsed by what it’s seen.”

Adbusters is an anti capitalist, anti consumerism movement – the protest accomplished exactly what the Anti Semitics at Adbusters wanted to happen. (They made a statement, and it wasn’t directed at average Joe American) They disrupted all the businesses around that park, and other cities where the mayors allowed the blight that is OWS to exist. Yesterday they tried their best, to keep people who work on Wall Street, from going to work. What do those people do for a living? They are capitalist involved in fiance.

What the PR firms are missing is the targeted audience, these protesters aren’t protesting for the 99% of Americans – regular Joes. They are interested in a much smaller percentage of the American public (Mobs). This is all about ginning up Mobs. Made up of riff raff, rabble rousers, and mob organizers. Flash Mobs, Mobs that squat, Mobs that Swarm…what was the tweet Michael Moore put out when the park got cleaned out? Everyone go there now? He was directing the Mob to Swarm the park eh? This whole exercise is about creating a mob, and then directing that mob to disrupt business as usual in the finance district. It might have just been a dry run a rehearsal for something else they have planned to come later. I would like to know if Bloomberg is making any contingency plans for more MOB outbreaks in NYC? As it is, it’s what happens in NYC that emboldens the rest of the mobs across the country.

Dr Evil on November 18, 2011 at 10:07 AM

Well said, Dr Evil.

onlineanalyst on November 18, 2011 at 10:09 AM

There is no doubt that Obama, his union thugs, and the rest of the Left political elite orchestrated this bowel movement.

In order for freedom to exist government must be strong enough to prevent anarchy and strictly limited in power to prevent tyranny. The left actively promotes anarchy (breaking the law, ie, civil disobedience and things like OWS) and they engage in tyranny with their over regulation, over taxation, redistribution, health care, etc.

In other words the political left is doing exactly what is required to destroy freedom.

One of the most insidious things about socialism is the fact that socialism destroys incentive and entire economies along with it but it does have the virtue of making the perpetrators look compassionate.

The Rock on November 18, 2011 at 10:10 AM

When the music’s over…..turn out the lights.

tommyboy on November 18, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Hey, precisely what’s missing from this movement.

If you get confused, listen to the music play

mike_NC9 on November 18, 2011 at 10:12 AM

I spent yesterday chatting with the supporters of OWS on an upstream feed. I have to admit my behavior was atrocious….but I came away laughing at how clueless these idiots are. They WANT the violence because they mistakenly believe that it validates their complaints. They believe that ALL struggles that are opposed by the government are righteous struggles.

They are simply thugs, anarchists, and communists, who want no rules except those they feel inclined to create themselves. Which mostly benefits them with no consideration whatsoever for others.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 10:13 AM

The Beer Hall Putsch was also a failure. And I hate the Godwinizing, but I’m trying to think of other marxist inspired way too soon attempts at taking over that were utter failures.

rbj on November 18, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Hitler got his Blood Flag out of the putsch…

I can see Van Jones now with the puked on tent used to consecrate the other tents of his movement…

Somehow the symbology just isn’t working out with OWS.

ajacksonian on November 18, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Just wait ’til they try to “Occupy” the Thanxgiving Macy’s parade… Their chats think that’s “a great idea.”

here is a video chronolgy of OWS:
http://perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-videos.html

mjbrooks3 on November 18, 2011 at 10:17 AM

I’ve been saying this for the last couple of weeks. The OWS movement has had the attention of the world, politicians and celebrities on thier side, a fawning media and NO MESSAGE.

What a blown opportunity. If they had marched on Washington and protested the bailouts, the government takeover of student loans (2 car companys, the banks, etc..), the policies of this administration that actually CAUSED the high unemployment, then it really could have been a force.

As it stands, this joke is now over and the majority of Americans are happy about it.

Texican Ben on November 18, 2011 at 10:18 AM

“We failed to close the stock exchange, but we took back our park,” said Adam Farooqui, 25, of Queens. “That was a real victory.”

It was never about keeping anyone out of the park. It was about them living their 24/7, trashing the place, and creating a nuisance. They won nothing.

Blake on November 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM

That’s not how Mobs think, that’s not how they operate. In their mind, they took back “territory” Mob Rule isn’t about logic, it’s tribal (drums) it’s thuggery.

The PR firms trying to put rouge on this pig, treating it as something more than it was. a failed movement……there isn’t enough Maybelline (lip stick on a pig) in the world, to turn a Mob into a Movement.

The first thing people need to do, is stop adopting the MSM’s definition of what OWS is — a movement, and start applying the right definition to OWS. OWS didn’t have a message, because they aren’t a movement, they are a MOB bent on Mob Rule.

Dr Evil on November 18, 2011 at 10:19 AM

Texican Ben on November 18, 2011 at 10:18 AM

But this is also SEIU and MoveOn.org, they don’t know when to quit. That’s why they must be defeated. Cockroaches hate sunlight.

mike_NC9 on November 18, 2011 at 10:23 AM

And did they seriously think that disrupting the subways would bother the 1%? I’ve been on the subways in the Big Apple, and I’m pretty sure that wasn’t the Upper Crust riding along with me.

I predicted this several weeks ago. I have seen this time after time. Liberals protest and no one cares. Then the liberals get angry and decide to mess with people’s lives(like children throwing fits) and then the people hate them.

John Wiley Price (an idiot Dem in Dallas) pulls this every so often. He protests on the side of the road with a bunch of fools. People drive by and ignore them. Then they start crossing the street time after time to mess with traffic. Then people are mad at him, not whatever cockamamie scam he is protesting.

JWP is the same idiot who said “black hole” was a racist term and it should be a white hole. You may remember him now, lol.

jeffn21 on November 18, 2011 at 10:23 AM

I spent yesterday chatting with the supporters of OWS on an upstream feed. I have to admit my behavior was atrocious….but I came away laughing at how clueless these idiots are. They WANT the violence because they mistakenly believe that it validates their complaints. They believe that ALL struggles that are opposed by the government are righteous struggles.

They are simply thugs, anarchists, and communists, who want no rules except those they feel inclined to create themselves. Which mostly benefits them with no consideration whatsoever for others.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Yep aka Mob.

They are trying to replicate the French Revolution of 1789 “The General Will” unfortunately for them Ann Coulter’s book (Demonic) is a best seller, and everyone has been schooled on how that revolution turned out :)

Why on earth is no one demanding that the Canadians do something about Adbusters?

The Canadians have treaties and trade agreements with the U.S. They make around 50 Billion dollars a year off of trade with Americans (Free Market). They allow this antisemitic who has set himself up in Vancouver, British Columbia to interfere in American’s lives, and politics, and yesterday our free market system. It’s unbelievable that someone in the Canadian government hasn’t been dragged out on the carpet to answer for their Canadian citizen meddling in American politics and commerce.

Dr Evil on November 18, 2011 at 10:28 AM

“We failed to close the stock exchange, but we took back our park,” said Adam Farooqui, 25, of Queens. “That was a real victory.”

This sums it all up. It’s not their park. It never was, and unless they come up with the money to purchase it or it is deeded it over to them, it never will be. But they really believe, and expect others to accept, that it is their park just by virtue of occupying it. I wonder if they’ve ever thought about what the word “occupy” in this connotation really means? (That was a rhetorical question.)

Deanna on November 18, 2011 at 10:30 AM

OWS is nothing but sadism. Period. In the absence of stated goals, their achievements must be taken as their goals. All they’ve done is cause distress.

Akzed on November 18, 2011 at 10:31 AM

If they start to disrupt the commute or work schedule of so-called ‘regular people’—part of that huge 99 percent who are just trying to get through the workday and earn a living—I think they risk losing the very group that should be most sympathetic.

I think AllahP said the same thing. That is, New Yorkers will tolerate these fools right up until the point that they start becoming inconvenienced with getting around. Apparently, a big no-no in NYC is to inconvenience the locals. One would think that “the locals” would be in the ’99%’.

ted c on November 18, 2011 at 10:36 AM

Just wait ’til they try to “Occupy” the Thanxgiving Macy’s parade… Their chats think that’s “a great idea.”

here is a video chronolgy of OWS:
http://perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-videos.html

mjbrooks3 on November 18, 2011 at 10:17 AM

At least Bloomberg and everyone in the police department, has a heads up. They have to know what they are dealing with isn’t any kind of “movement”. Bloomberg has been worried about the PR, how he deals with mobs looks in the media. How does he think it’s going to look when one of NYC’s biggest days of the year ,especially for tourism is disrupted by a bunch of riff raff and rabble rousers?

In the meantime, I would be getting the Canadian consulate on the line in NYC, and asking them what they are doing about the puppeteer in Vancouver, who is directing this mayhem inside their country. If people like Soros doesn’t think he’s left himself exposed for legal liability, via his support of the National Lawyers Guild, it’s past time someone shows him, how folks do things down town GRIN. Paging, Mr Rico, Mr Rico lol!

Dr Evil on November 18, 2011 at 10:37 AM

This is a global movement. It’s not meant for just us.

As Beck has been trying to explain, everything about these protests is designed to show solidarity with the rest of the worlds useful idiots.

If things continue to get out of hand (especially next summer), it won’t really matter that 75% of the US looks upon them as worthless, hippie/commie turds.

As we have seen, people are now demanding that local governments “do something” to stop the mayhem and violence. There is no thought given as to what this “do something” actually means. That is EXACTLY what these leftist governments want. Just an excuse to clamp down. The useful idiots are performing the parts perfectly.

I would be very careful in thinking that these protests are a “self-defeating disaster”. This is pre-game for next summer prior to the elections.

Local governments have no money. How much longer can they afford to keep wasting police officer time and money on this? What if the states need to call in the National Guard at some point?

This is all part of a larger and more sinister plan. Be careful what you wish for when you look to the government for “help”. They will happily oblige.

Bottom up, top down, inside out.

Flyboy on November 18, 2011 at 10:43 AM

NYPD did an excellent job yesterday. The Poopers didn’t even know they were pwned.

Blake on November 18, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Why on earth is no one demanding that the Canadians do something about Adbusters?

Dr Evil on November 18, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Yep. Adbusters started the OWS bowel movement.

“We basically floated the idea in mid July into our [email list] and it was spontaneously taken up by all the people of the world,” said Adbusters senior editor Micah White on Monday, the tenth day of the protest. “It just kind of snowballed from there.”

And what did it attract? Smelly lice infested hippies, criminals, rapists, and other lunatics.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 10:46 AM

I’m trying to think of other marxist inspired way too soon attempts at taking over that were utter failures.

rbj on November 18, 2011 at 9:48 AM

The Decembrists are one.

Vashta.Nerada on November 18, 2011 at 10:48 AM

“We failed to close the stock exchange, but we took back our park,” said Adam Farooqui, 25, of Queens. “That was a real victory.”

I was talking to these loons at that exact time. What they don’t realize was that as they were getting increasingly violent, the police ALLOWED them to RETREAT into Zuccotti Park. These ignorant morons thought they achieved some huge victory and guess what….the violence subsided.

Hahaha! As someone else pointed out, the police owned their @sses and they are too stupid to realize it!

lol

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 10:50 AM

I meant to add that the police used the false sense of victory as a way to calm the mob. Those who are easily led by the communists, are easily led by others. They are simply sheep being led by whichever group understand the psychology of the sheeple.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM

“The whole world is watching. And it’s generally repulsed.”

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen another post where the tagline to well explained the entire theme of the thread itself. Can the TL be voted as the threadwinner?

hawkdriver on November 18, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Yeah, and thanks to you, it’s also FIRST!!!11!!

Why should anyone else even bother to comment? There’s nothing left.

Lily on November 18, 2011 at 11:07 AM

OCCUPY SAN DIEGO NOW HAS NEW PR! It is a combination of La Raza and State Employee Unions. Sweet! Their first order of business was shutting down a major road during rush hour.

It is as I say: Occupy is just like Tea Party – minus the personal hygiene, civic responsibility, and respect for personal property.

Mutnodjmet on November 18, 2011 at 11:14 AM

It’s unb

elievable that someone in the Canadian government hasn’t been dragged out on the carpet to answer for their Canadian citizen meddling in American politics and commerce.

Dr Evil on November 18, 2011 at 10:28 AM

For the left…the end justifies the means…

tinkerthinker on November 18, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Bottom up, top down, inside out.

Flyboy on November 18, 2011 at 10:43 AM

Yep.

tinkerthinker on November 18, 2011 at 11:20 AM

The worst was the jerks blocking the little kids from going to school near Wall Street. (See link from Insty.)

Reminds me of another picture: the little black kids trying to go to school with screaming jerks lining the sidewalks, from long ago.

PattyJ on November 18, 2011 at 11:29 AM

I was talking to these loons at that exact time. What they don’t realize was that as they were getting increasingly violent, the police ALLOWED them to RETREAT into Zuccotti Park. These ignorant morons thought they achieved some huge victory and guess what….the violence subsided.

Hahaha! As someone else pointed out, the police owned their @sses and they are too stupid to realize it!

lol

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 10:50 AM

heh. #occupy fallback position and call it a win.

ted c on November 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM

we took back our park,” said Adam Farooqui, 25, of Queens. “That was a real victory.”

Let me say this very slowly so that even a complete moron like you might possibly understand.

It’s. Not. Your. Park.

eyedoc on November 18, 2011 at 11:57 AM

eyedoc on November 18, 2011 at 11:57 AM

It is pointless to argue with 3 year olds you view possession as 10/10 of the law.

NotCoach on November 18, 2011 at 12:01 PM

When the music’s over…..turn out the lights.

tommyboy on November 18, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Hey, precisely what’s missing from this movement.

If you get confused, listen to the music play

mike_NC9 on November 18, 2011 at 10:12 AM

..one can argue that this anthem to burned-out hippie-dom is more appropriate:

Dawn is breaking everywhere
Light a candle, curse the glare
Draw the curtains
I don’t care ’cause
It’s all right

I see you’ve got your fist out
Say your piece and get out
Yes I get the gist of it
but it’s all right

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It’s even worse than it appears
but it’s all right.

Cows giving kerosene
Kid can’t read at seventeen
The words he knows are all obscene
but it’s all right


I will get by / I will get by
I will get by / I will survive
We will get by / We will get by
We will get by / We will survive

..don’t bet the ranch slim.

The War Planner on November 18, 2011 at 12:18 PM

NotCoach on November 18, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Glad I wasn’t drinking my morning coffee when I read that. Isn’t it amazing how anti-Semitism and Leftism seem to go together? ‘Kill the Jooos’ is a chant that these days is just as likely to be heard from self-professed Communists and socialists as from Muslims. And that is no surprise – the Left has a long history of such bigotry and hatred. Recall that the Left – not the Right – was the party of segregation, that the Left, not the Right, is the party of racial eugenics (Margaret Sanger, etc) and it is the Left, not the Right, that supported (and still does support) mass murderers like Josef Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Tse-tung, Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Che Guevara, Saddam Hussein, Kim Il Sung, Robert Mugabe, etc. The ONLY reason the Left did not support Hitler was that they had to make a choice between two conflicting brands of socialism and they chose Russian Communism over German National Socialism. Not much difference between the two in my opinion. And the Occupiers show every sign of being a bunch of hard-Left agitators and their ever-present lemmings.

Now, for any apologists who might wish to say ‘but the US conservatives support dictators too’, let me remind you that there is a mighty difference between a practical working alliance with someone because your goals temporarily align (as in World War II or the Cold War) and cheering on a mass-murderer (and even betraying your countrymen as many on the Left did during the Cold War) because he or she claims to espouse your political philosophy, which is what the Left has done for mass-murdering tyrants worldwide since the fall of the Tsars in 1918.

StoneHeads on November 18, 2011 at 12:31 PM

PattyJ on November 18, 2011 at 11:29 AM

It’s the same people. The Occupiers certainly seem to be the philosophical and political descendants of the Jim Crow Democrats. So it’s not surprising that the imagery would be similar.

StoneHeads on November 18, 2011 at 12:35 PM

StoneHeads on November 18, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Socialist revolutionaries and their followers are a pathetic lot. Their arguments never win on merits, so they invent boogeymen to win support. And Jews are an easy target that fits the mold nicely since they represent a historic tradition of freedom of thought, commerce and liberty and there aren’t too many of them like Christians.

NotCoach on November 18, 2011 at 12:41 PM

heh. #occupy fallback position and call it a win.

ted c on November 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM

lol That is what they did!

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM

“We basically floated the idea in mid July into our [email list] and it was spontaneously taken up by all the people of the world,” said Adbusters senior editor Micah White on Monday, the tenth day of the protest. “It just kind of snowballed from there.”

And what did it attract? Smelly lice infested hippies, criminals, rapists, and other lunatics.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 10:46 AM

They created “A Flash Mob” that’s not a movement, It’s a happening a meet up. That’s why no coherent message came from any of the protesters. Think about what they would say if someone asked them, what are your demands? They didn’t have any – that would have destroyed the Mob’s intent to disrupt finance, and commerce in side the U.S. Adbuster’s mission statement. Mobs as a rule are not sympathetic. The only reason they lasted as long as they did is because, Bloomberg humored them in the first place. Liberals always believe if you indulge people who partake in these kinds of activities, you are letting them vent so you control the “Energy” of the Mob, you let some of the air out of their sails. In this case they were embolden, and they are threatening escalation per the Macy Day Thanksgiving Parade “Big New York tourist attraction important to NYC’s economy” which is followed by one of the biggest “Consumer driven days of the year, Black Friday”. Adbusters is anti consumerism. It was the MSM that labeled OWS a movement. They don’t behave like a movement, but they do behave like a Mob.

Why isn’t Hillary Clinton SOS, Eric Holder DOJ, Janet Napolitiano DHS, and all the authorities in NYC, contacting their Canadian counter parts? Is there some international treaty we signed, that allows Pseudo socialist Canadian orgs, to create mobs inside our country, and direct them to create mayhem, to interrupt our financial industry, and commerce? Why aren’t these questions even being asked of the Obama Administration by the media? It looks like they waited till someone started shooting at the White House, before they even took action. Americans deserve answers.

Dr Evil on November 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM

I have no doubt that NYC has a world class police department, and they know what and how to handle them. My complaint is why should they have to? Why is the media shining a light on the puppets but not the puppeteers? A good Attorney General could make an argument that foreign entities inside of Canada conspired against the United States of America, and are possibly responsible for multiple shots being fired into the White House. When they ginned up the Mob in this country they knew they were creating chaos and mayhem, they need to be held accountable. I don’t think we need a shooting war with Canada, but they sure the hell need to back up off our asses :)

Dr Evil on November 18, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Why isn’t Hillary Clinton SOS, Eric Holder DOJ, Janet Napolitiano DHS, and all the authorities in NYC, contacting their Canadian counter parts?

Dr Evil on November 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM

Because for the progressives, the ends justify ANY MEANS by which to accomplish their goals. Even riots, rape, murder, and general lawlessness.

csdeven on November 18, 2011 at 3:13 PM

Here in Dallas, the occupiers have been getting generally favorable press, at least to the amount that the media ignores all the negative things they do. But, it’s obvious that the occupiers are doing nothing except for camping out, marching occasionally, and getting into scuffles with the cops. The other morning, DPD ran all of of them out of their camp, arrested 18 of them, and cleaned up the area.

Police Chief David Brown said the place was a public health nightmare, between the trash and the human waste. Of course, the occupiers have vowed to return, setting up camp somewhere else. Yawn.

Ward Cleaver on November 18, 2011 at 3:15 PM

“If they start to disrupt the commute or work schedule of so-called ‘regular people’—part of that huge 99 percent who are just trying to get through the workday and earn a living

I believe the correct figure is closer to 60%.

disa on November 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM

You guys don’t get it. Check the polls.

Headlines make the POP history. And scapegoats are super.

Economy crashed under W so he did it. Good guy for a beer but with stupid evil streak.

Debt went up under The One & economy is bad so He is responsible. Cool black guy that can’t do the job or control spending.

The left needed an event to blame free enterprise for our woes and find a goat. Hearings might be a real risk. So, send these guys to grab headlines. These guys party and talk nonsense.

The message will become bad Wall Street and Republicans putting us in our long, long recession. Bad capitalism. Those 1%ers!

Without a shred of truth.

Mission accomplished.

IlikedAUH2O on November 19, 2011 at 11:22 AM