Video: Pelosi rejects Perry’s debate invite, goofs on him for good measure
posted at 8:55 pm on November 17, 2011 by Allahpundit
So proud was she of this gag that someone on her staff tweeted it out this morning to double the fun. It makes me cringe — not because the joke is lame but because it’s sad to think Perry has been reduced to such desperate straits that he’s now trying to bait the right’s hate objects into confrontation just to get some positive buzz going again. (See also his needling of Obama on Hannity last night for having grown up “in a privileged way.”) How long before he challenges Michael Moore to an arm-wrestling match?
Then again, maybe it’s time to think outside the box:
Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s campaign fundraising has gone into a tailspin as a result of poor debate performances and plunging poll numbers, jeopardizing his position as the best-funded Republican presidential candidate of 2012…
Perry’s loyal backers are running into resistance from Republican donors. One Perry fundraiser, who asked not to be named, said he received 15 RSVPs for a recent event from potential donors saying they might attend. But after a gaffe-marred Perry debate performance, none showed up.
“The debates have taken a toll,” the fundraiser said. “The national numbers have taken a toll. People see the campaign on a negative trajectory.”…
Another Perry fundraiser said he expects the Texas governor to raise between $3 million and $5 million in the final three months of 2012 — less than one-third of what he generated in the first six weeks of his candidacy.
How bad is it? Bad enough that some of those staffers who bailed on Gingrich over the summer to go work for Perry (or technically, for Perry’s supporters) are now bailing on Perry so that they can go back to working for Gingrich. Under different circumstances, if Perry were still neck and neck with Romney, taunting Obama and Pelosi would have looked like a flourish of confidence in the fact that he’d be the eventual nominee. As it is, with Pelosi swatting him away and snickering, he looks hapless. If they were smart, they’d take the bait and try to build him up in time for Iowa, as he’s probably their only chance of knocking off Romney in the primary and setting themselves up for an easier general election. Maybe they’re saving that strategy for December?
Update: I missed it on Twitter earlier but Team Perry had a nice comeback to Pelosi’s putdown: “Perhaps the third activity that you have forgotten is the ongoing insider trading?”
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Geez. Politics is a very cold business, though if I were Gingrich I wouldn’t take them back.
nswider on November 17, 2011 at 8:59 PM
AllahP, this is the second time in as many threads that you are saying this.
But you know what?
I double dare the Dems to go for that ploy and help push Perry over the finish line (he doesn’t need their help to do that though). Unfortunately, they won’t do it and you know why.
Perry stands a better chance in the general than Romney no matter how they spin it. He, at least, can count on the base turning out in droves to vote for him. Romney? Not so much.
And no! So-called “independents” do not decide elections. Most self-identified independents are either right-leaning or left-leaning already, they just do not want to adopt party labels.
TheRightMan on November 17, 2011 at 9:00 PM
You know, the “c” word was invented with Pelosi in mind—-and its not “classy”.
arnold ziffel on November 17, 2011 at 9:01 PM
The wicked witch actually handled that well. I think possibly that Perry may have dodged a bullet with that, because if he lost the debate with Pelosi there would be absolutely no hope. As it stands there is the faint hope that with the Cain Train derailment, Newt might flame out and give Perry a second chance.
sharrukin on November 17, 2011 at 9:03 PM
Chicken
Speakup on November 17, 2011 at 9:08 PM
Pelosi: Can’t Understand Normal Thinking
SirGawain on November 17, 2011 at 9:08 PM
He left himself wide open for that.
Isn’t he supposed to have such great advisers?
Nobody told him that was stupid?
katy the mean old lady on November 17, 2011 at 9:08 PM
Allahpundit, Perry’s response to Pelosi’s not worthy of putting in this post? Good reporting.
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:09 PM
Teh Fred Perry. Said it from the start.
BJ* on November 17, 2011 at 9:10 PM
Crook?
No..maybe cranky?
If Joe Biden were to mention it, would he say it is a three letter word?
:)
Electrongod on November 17, 2011 at 9:10 PM
Should be 2011, no?
steebo77 on November 17, 2011 at 9:10 PM
Oh come on, you think Perry thought that up on his own? He has a team. Someone on the team thought it’d be a good idea, or maybe he did. A campaign is a team effort. They are all to blame for this fiasco, but I, as a Perry supporter, would put more blame on Perry as the leader of the team.
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:11 PM
Feel free if you think it matters.
sharrukin on November 17, 2011 at 9:11 PM
I dont think a lot of Hot Air commenters can handle this type of honest commentary. We’re supposed to live in an imaginary bubble where every single poll over the alst six months showing Romney running the strongest against Obama never happened.
swamp_yankee on November 17, 2011 at 9:11 PM
Didn’t see it. Have a link? And why so quick to assume that I’m deliberately ignoring it rather than that I just haven’t seen it?
I’ve warned you guys before: I don’t mind when you call me stupid, but I do mind when you question my integrity.
Allahpundit on November 17, 2011 at 9:11 PM
It doesn’t, but it’s interesting the narrative that AP’s had lately. Keep only the truly negative about Perry and post none of the positive. Thus no a post on HA for Perry’s initiatives that came out early in the week. AP’s agenda is clear and it is not going to be remotely positive for Perry.
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:13 PM
And if you add a ‘y’ to the end you’ve captured the spirit of this comment.
dieudonne on November 17, 2011 at 9:13 PM
Obama would rather face Perry than Romney?
Come on man.
fogw on November 17, 2011 at 9:13 PM
What positive? What initiatives?
steebo77 on November 17, 2011 at 9:14 PM
You can assert this all you like. It doesn’t make it true. Obviously you didn’t read Cost’s article in the Standard.
KingGold on November 17, 2011 at 9:14 PM
I linked to his initiatives here and said some were solid and many others don’t have a hope of passing, all of which is true.
Allahpundit on November 17, 2011 at 9:15 PM
Catholic? Oh, wait…
steebo77 on November 17, 2011 at 9:15 PM
I think you are very wise, but I was quick to assume because all you’ve had lately on Perry are his negatives here on HA. Nothing about his proposal from Monday. Your posts seem to be very anit-Perry and snarky lately. I could be wrong. Sorry if I was too quick to jump on this one. I’ll get you his @teamrickperry tweet from this morning, but I figured you’d be following all of the teams.
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:15 PM
Yeah, AP’s agenda is clear.
He hates Perry, Romney, Cain, Ron Paul, Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Bachmann, and Gerry Huntsman.
Wait, whats his agenda again?
sharrukin on November 17, 2011 at 9:16 PM
Nancy is real funny.
Let’s ask her if the 63 Democrats who lost their seat are laughing.
NeoKong on November 17, 2011 at 9:16 PM
Sure you did, but your post ends
Sheesh, turn a good ad into a negative post on Perry.
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:17 PM
What can I tell you? He hasn’t done much that’s appealed to me lately. Your mileage may vary.
Allahpundit on November 17, 2011 at 9:18 PM
I am sorry. I didn’t mean to question your integrity. You do post what you have. Also, I don’t think you are dumb ;)
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:18 PM
Nancy is visiting “labs” in California? I wonder why?
TugboatPhil on November 17, 2011 at 9:18 PM
D*mmitt,
I was hope’n for a Mesmerizing Hand Puppet show,
and Rapid Eye Blinking,that would be decoded,as
in morse-code,later to be reconstructed,to see if
it matched what she was really saying in the debate,
and now,that theory of mine is all shot to h*ll!
(snark)
canopfor on November 17, 2011 at 9:19 PM
I thought it was rather kind of HA not to mention that. Unless he is planning on running as a dictator, he can’t accompliish most of it. Sounds good though. Until you think.
katy the mean old lady on November 17, 2011 at 9:20 PM
Perry needs to quit for not seeing that Granny Botox was going to have the last word – no doubt fed lines from admiring reporters.
How stupid was that move.
jjshaka on November 17, 2011 at 9:21 PM
Does it rhyme with runt?
listens2glenn on November 17, 2011 at 9:21 PM
What can I tell you? He hasn’t done much that’s appealed to me lately. Your mileage may vary.
Allahpundit on November 17, 2011 at 9:18 PM
AllahPundit:Oops,the PerryTroopers are marching,AP,I suggested you
post your bravest kitty at your door,for a sentry!!
(snark)
(And yes,I’m kidding)—:)
canopfor on November 17, 2011 at 9:22 PM
Allah, those staffers who left Newt are not going back anytime soon, the have been with Perry for a very long time, and only took the job with Newtie because Perry had not announced yet. He called. They came running back home.
Kermit on November 17, 2011 at 9:23 PM
Yep, that’s the truth. Just figured some of his positives might have gotten more coverage. Here’s an article on Perry’s response:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/194265-pelosi-makes-fun-of-perry-debate-suggestion
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:24 PM
Actually, I think AP likes Newt, maybe Cain at one time. I think AP wants our side to win.
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:26 PM
I think that Perry has gotten a great deal of positive coverage on this website, but hes had a rough few weeks. You cant just expect good stories for your guy, he has to earn them. Believe me, as a Romney supporter there are far more negative articles about Romney then Perry, you just have to roll with it. Its the candidates job to change the perceptions of them, this site just reports the sentiment of the moment and right now the sentiment about Perry is hes on his way down and out. It very well might change.
nswider on November 17, 2011 at 9:29 PM
If he likes Newt it certainly doesn’t stop him from posting all the media slams coming his way. I recall when Perry got a lot of favorable coverage at HA as well.
sharrukin on November 17, 2011 at 9:29 PM
Wow, who knew Pelosi was such a terrible comedian? Someone else wrote the joke for her and still took some of the trained seals in the press row to bark like craZy since no one realized she was trying to be funny.
That is one bizarre woman.
Tman on November 17, 2011 at 9:29 PM
AP, sorry again. I should known you didn’t have his tweet. My frustration has nothing to do with you and everything to do with the Perry campaign. What a disaster. I guess Newt will have to do.
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM
Perry……..desperate for attention.
Rick, I knew you were an open-borders, NAFTA, Trans-Texas Corridor loving clone of Bush but I didn’t know you stunk so bad at campaigning.
And Pelosi?…………can I call her _____________ ________?
PappyD61 on November 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM
Perhaps Perry can entice Nancy with an IPO in trade for a debate? Or maybe she really can’t remember her third appointment because it has to pass before she knows what it is? Then again perhaps we should ring up Dr. Bachmann and ask if Botox has the same side effects as Guardasil.
smfoushee on November 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM
If that woman were on fire, I’d roast marshmallows.
SouthernGent on November 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM
I don’t know but she is a nasty little s*** isn’t she.
Paul-Cincy on November 17, 2011 at 9:31 PM
Unfortunately I suspect we won’t even be that lucky.
Romney.
sharrukin on November 17, 2011 at 9:32 PM
Newt’s stories are nothing burgers so far. Perry did get favorable reporting here. Lately, Perry news does not include his good town hall performances and his good proposals are afterthoughts in gloomy he has no chance posts. I blame Perry more than anyone else. I love what he’s done in TX and his proposals now, but he should have been on the campaign trail 6 months earlier to fix the things he cannot fix now back when no one was watching (except us of course).
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:33 PM
Here you go, AllahP.
Perry fires back at Pelosi via Twitter
It appears only a few news article referenced Perry’s response.
I also saw one of the tweets on Perry’s twitter page:
TheRightMan on November 17, 2011 at 9:33 PM
Wai a tick,thats gonna be the Thanks-Giving Period,is she so sure
about that!!
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November 19 to November 28:Thanksgiving Day District Work Period
http://www.democraticwhip.gov/sites/default/files/2011-onepager.pdf
canopfor on November 17, 2011 at 9:33 PM
I can’t give up all hope yet.
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:34 PM
Can’t watch the video. Already filled the weakly quota of videos featuring retarded Sharpeis.
RedCrow on November 17, 2011 at 9:34 PM
A month is a lifetime in politics, just think to where we were a month ago. You guys just need to hang on and see what happens. Im confident about my candidate, but he could blow it, we wont know until people vote. So don’t get depressed and abandon your candidates yet, give it til at least Christmas.
nswider on November 17, 2011 at 9:35 PM
Maybe Nancy can give Rick some stock tips..:)
Dire Straits on November 17, 2011 at 9:35 PM
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:36 PM
A nice comeback is nothing if no one hears about it. Again, Perry Fail. :(
Thanks for updating AP.
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:37 PM
I missed round 1 of this and was too late to comment then.
But I simply don’t understand what a Presidential candidate is doing challenging the minority leader in the House of Representatives to a debate is trying to accomplish. Especially Pelosi.
I watched Pelosi say on the Jon Stewart video saying that Democrats didn’t try to pass a budget because the “Repuplican’s would have fillibustered it”. I won’t bother explaining to the highly informed HA readers what a bold faced lie that was.
It’s just an example that the truth matters not one little bit to Pelosi.
What can be gained by debating such a person, especially when most of the MSM won’t report what happened?
Hog Wild on November 17, 2011 at 9:39 PM
I remain a strong Perry supporter.
However, I must confess that I saw his challenging Pelosi to a debate as one of those head-scratching moments.
I believe he did it to raise public awareness of his proposed plan to overhaul Congress and saw Pelosi as one of the ‘boogeywomen’ and face of the Dem party in Congress.
The problem, though, is that his proposed plan will face opposition not only from Dems but the dinosaur Republicans as well.
Can you see McConnell agreeing to a proposal to make Congress part-time? Murkowski? McCain?
LOL…
But this is a proposal that is certainly long overdue.
TheRightMan on November 17, 2011 at 9:39 PM
My understanding is that Pelosi tweeted her response so it became a defacto Twitter war. (*what isn’t these days? :))
Perry trying to go hijack her press conference (?) to respond to her tweet would have been a step too far.
TheRightMan on November 17, 2011 at 9:43 PM
Allah,
Perry’s funding falling to 5 million, isnt that still comparable to Romney’s?
Yes his standings and his goofs hae diminished his marketability in the short term, but of all the candidates up there – he has a strong lengthy record of achievement, something the others have tried to impune somewhat unsucessfully
EricPWJohnson on November 17, 2011 at 9:46 PM
She responded in her press conference, not just a tweet. It was ALSO tweeted. :( Watch the video AP posted.
kerrhome on November 17, 2011 at 9:47 PM
Pelosi is pathetic, but then again she always is. My question is this… what’s up with all the Perry hate, Allah? One would thing that the guy personally peed in your cornflakes or something.
Murf76 on November 17, 2011 at 9:52 PM
My bad… I had not yet watched the video so was not sure she had held a press conference.
Thank you very much for the heads up.
:)
TheRightMan on November 17, 2011 at 9:54 PM
1) Perry is finished. what in the world was he thinking challenging PELOSI to a debate? Is he trying to become President or Speaker of the House?
2) Pelosi shouldn’t be debating anyone or holding press conferences – she should be going to jail for Insider Trading!!!
easyt65 on November 17, 2011 at 10:00 PM
“Oh yeah? Well, the jerkstore called, and they’re runnin’ out of you!”
KingGold on November 17, 2011 at 10:00 PM
I am a Perry supporter and do not see any bias whatsoever from AllahP.
I have explained to those that keep accusing AllahP of bias that he only has one candidate that he supports – Traffic!
He is doing the best he can to make this forum a lively one where we can all discuss “hot” political topics with passion and energy. And I must say he has few equals in the blogging world at needling commenters, something he does with a healthy dose of wit and “eeyorism”.
He has nothing personal against any candidate and is as patritic as any other.
I still maintain though that he is an alien from the Planet “9-9-9″.
:)
TheRightMan on November 17, 2011 at 10:00 PM
Oh, quit picking on Allahpundit.
He is not anti-Perry.
He is just very pro-Eeyore.
bitsy on November 17, 2011 at 10:01 PM
I swear, AllahP, if I read any more “Perry is finished/toast/done” comment – I will go bazookas! :)
How many times does Perry get finished, easyt65? Is he a vampire or something?
LOL…
TheRightMan on November 17, 2011 at 10:04 PM
Yup, people would have to go to the Perry campaign Twitter page or subscribe to it’s feed. A CBS News broadcast trumps that, most people usually don’t hunt the internet for good comebacks. So what they takeaway from all this effort is another reminder of the “3 things” flub.
whatcat on November 17, 2011 at 10:06 PM
He is just very pro-Eeyore.
bitsy on November 17, 2011 at 10:01 PM
bitsy:HEAR….HEAR…,AP,is just the Messenger!:)
canopfor on November 17, 2011 at 10:07 PM
Boy, anyone notice that the Princess’ plastic surgery doesn’t look so good……
Starlink on November 17, 2011 at 10:08 PM
Perry’s campaign fired back at the Dem leader, writing on their official twitter account Thursday: “@NancyPelosi Perhaps the third activity that you have forgotten is the ongoing insider trading?”
lol
kg598301 on November 17, 2011 at 10:28 PM
Fifty four, and counting.
kg598301 on November 17, 2011 at 10:32 PM
Nancy-poo only appears before friendly crowds. And only answers pre-submitted questions.
Given her grasp of reality, its safer that way.
GarandFan on November 17, 2011 at 11:48 PM
I don’t know what he was thinking when he challenged the princess to a debate. But the insider trading comeback was great.
Shay on November 18, 2011 at 12:29 AM
Wouldn’t have to do with the fact that Perry would clean your collective clock within the first three minutes of the debate, would it, Nancy?
pilamaye on November 18, 2011 at 8:28 AM
TRM, again, WHAT was Perry thinking? Who the heck is advising him? SERIOUS Presidential candidates don’t challnge FAILED, EX-Speakers of the House to a debate! After a poor debate performance, trying to make up for it by challenging Nancy Pelosi to a dabate (if that is what he did) is like a pro boxer losing a bout then attempting to silence his critics by challenging a high school student to fight!
Winning a debate with Pelosi nets you NOTHING because you supposedly want to be President, not Speaker of the House. LOSING that debate ends your campaign because if you can’t even beat a failed EX-Speaker of the House then you can’t hack it as the Commander and Chief. Challenging Pelosi and allowing her to grab press by ‘swatting away’ the challenge…and making fun of it…hurts your campaign. The whole thuing was just an amateurish, NOT well-thought-out move. I like a lot of the guys ideas, but this one was stupid.
easyt65 on November 18, 2011 at 11:20 AM