Limbaugh comes to Cain’s defense

posted at 6:00 pm on November 15, 2011 by Tina Korbe

By the end of the day yesterday, the Twitter consensus — among the feeds I follow, at least — seemed to be that Herman Cain’s painful pauses and cautious, unconfident answers to questions about Libya and collective bargaining from the editorial board of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel were indefensible. Somehow, though, Rush Limbaugh has found a defense — and it comes across as a sensible one.

On his radio program today, Limbaugh suggested the video of a bumbling, uncertain Cain was “just the latest hit piece.”

“On Libya, he ended up — when you listen to the whole interview, the whole question and answer — he ended up getting Libya right,” the radio host proclaimed. “His biggest mistake was admitting that he was having a hard time focusing. He shouldn’t have said that in front of the enemy — the enemy being the editorial board.”

Limbaugh also reminded his listeners that some federal unionized employees do have collective bargaining rights. Air traffic controllers collectively bargain over their wages, for example, and other federal unionized employees collectively bargain over working conditions.

“Substantively, Cain was right,” Limbaugh said. “Substantively, Cain got it right on collective bargaining for federal unionized workers — and the editors got it wrong. And even the Journal-Sentinel article that accompanies the video eventually admitted that Cain got it right in his answer and they got it wrong, but no matter. They are attempting to portray via the video here a slow, ignorant, uninformed, unsure-of-himself candidate who really is just outclassed and is totally out of his league. And the video, under that impression, under those auspices, has gone viral.”

Truthfully, when I first saw the video, I wasn’t nearly so appalled as I was when I watched Herman Cain’s dizzying circumlocutions on his position on abortion. But that’s just it — that’s what Limbaugh ignores in this instance. Just as Rick Perry’s “oops” moment was eminently more painful because it followed a string of lousy debates, so Cain’s confusion about Libya and collective bargaining appeared ever more foolish because they fit a pattern of uneasy, uninformed answers to pat questions for which he ought to have pat answers.

Still, the final clip of this segment of Limbaugh’s show is highly illustrative and instructive. Barack Obama has been known to blank every bit as embarrassingly as either Rick Perry or Herman Cain — and, yet, somehow, he retains his image as a “cerebral, intelligent, academic” president. It’s either/or. Either “uhms” and “uhs” prove idiocy — and Barack Obama is also an idiot — or they don’t. Obviously, it’s the latter — and all the candidates deserve a little slack for their inevitable public speaking gaffes.

What’s more troublesome about Cain is that the plan he has put forth (that infamous 9-9-9!) — presumably after extensive research and careful consideration — is still not particularly compelling as far as policy solutions go. I’d forgive him his off-the-cuff foibles if his on-the-record proposals were more plausible or profound.

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Update I: Limbaugh wasn’t the only radio host to sound off on this: Glenn Beck took up the topic, too. But he fell in line with the Twitterverse, calling it Cain’s “latest problem” and saying he seems to have no idea what Libya is.

Update II: This post originally said Limbaugh said all this on radio program yesterday when, in fact, it was today. The post has been corrected above.


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phillypolitics on November 15, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Yep, I’m hangin’ with Herman too. Not one of these chicken littles heard the entire interview. Sheep. Just like th ” Palin’s stoopid crowd.
I’ll take a real conservative.

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Would that make a difference for you? I doubt it. He was in Iowa today and has been in these states more than any other candidate. Remember Cain was the first candidate to announce his candidacy. He has been campaigning and speaking in Iowa, NH, and SC for some time. And he will be in those states in the coming month.

milemarker2020 on November 15, 2011 at 7:07 PM

I don’t why you’re asking if it would make a difference, of course it does. No candidate can get the nomination if they skip the early primary states. Last I heard (maybe yesterday?) he was in Wisconsin or someplace tailgating, which just doesn’t sound serious to me. That’s why I asked. I know what it’s like to have your candidate bashed constantly and I haven’t done that so no need to be defensive- with me, anyway.

kg598301 on November 15, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Rush was wrong, the problem isn’t only the awkward pauses, it was Cain’s inability to flesh out an answer due to lack of knowledge. It was also that what little he did say is contrary to how most people feel about Libya.

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 7:37 PM

We say we want change, and then a candidate comes along and does things in a very different way, and it spooks people like crazy!

A cockroach is way more free of germs than a cricket, but no one freaks out when they see a cricket like they do when they see a cockroach. It’s the way a cockroach moves, it’s unpredictability, not knowing which direction it’s going next, that scares people.

Cain is very different as a candidate. He’s not doing things how and when many people expect him to. He pauses too long before answering a question. He laughs off criticism. He sings. He honestly admits when he has trouble focusing. Mistakes? Maybe. Imperfect? Absolutely. Refreshing? Gawd, yes!

I agree with other posters here who emphasize what Russ is trying to say: the MSM is the enemy, here.

Do I want Cain to be president? I’m not sure yet. But I do know that I don’t want the Republican candidates obediently jumping through the Left’s hoops. I’m sick of that! Cain is a cockroach to them. He didn’t drop out when he was under fire, and instead raises more than 9 million in 6 weeks. They can’t predict or contain him. And to me, it’s incredibly entertaining to watch.

Bottom line: Cain, and Perry and Newt and the rest are on OUR TEAM! Any one of them will be better than Obama. I will crawl over broken glass to vote for whoever the GOP nominee is.

So can we all agree to just chillax a little here? Take a deep breath and root for all of them a little longer? Remember, we don’t want the status quo. We want to shake up DC and the Establishment. So please don’t freak out if someone doesn’t act like and Establishment Academy cadet.

parteagirl on November 15, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Cain was not stumped.
The interviewer asked an ambiguous question.
We have no Libya policy unless it is to declare war on some little country, have it’s leader murdered in the street and then have all of it’s wealth seized by god knows who.

NeoKong on November 15, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Don’t let that get in the way of the HA bash fest.

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Yes, Cain is right that Obama should have vetted our allies better, but he also stated that he supported protecting the “Arab Spring” protesters, who are actually the bad guys that, if we had vetted them, we never should have helped in the first place.

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 7:40 PM

So once again Cain is on both sides of the issue.

If we vetted our allies correctly then we never should have gotten involved bombing Libya to support a much of Islamists, yet Cain supported doing just that. Hence, both sides of the issue.

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 7:41 PM

much=bunch

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Cain was not stumped.
The interviewer asked an ambiguous question.
We have no Libya policy unless it is to declare war on some little country, have it’s leader murdered in the street and then have all of it’s wealth seized by god knows who.

NeoKong on November 15, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Don’t let that get in the way of the HA bash fest.

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 7:39 PM

After listening to the entire interview today, yeah, I’m with ya all the way. And that Bialek “I’m not the fiance anymore” post stays buried in the Green Room basement.

Knucklehead on November 15, 2011 at 7:45 PM

The question on collective bargaining for unions is a gotcha q.
If he would have said NO I dont beleive it the left would have gone NUTS he wants to distroy unions, he is against the common man.
There is nothing you can do right now about collective bargaining its already in place. Try unlearing what 2 + 2 is.
The media IMHO knows that obama is in major trouble. So if they cant get their boy elected they want someone as close to him as possible that is romney. I am not a fan of perry but I like him a hell of a lot more then I do romney, romney is obama white.

ColdWarrior57 on November 15, 2011 at 7:45 PM

NOT A SINGLE WORD BY THIS WEBSITE ABOUT PERRY’S LATEST PLAN, PRESENTED TODAY.

WE NOW KNOW WHERE (FULL OF) HOTAIR STANDS.

Kermit on November 15, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Yep, I’m hangin’ with Herman too…..
I’ll take a real conservative.

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Herman Cain…Herman Cain…Herman Cain!!!!!!!!!!!
How about that Gloria Cain?????

balkanmom on November 15, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Rush was wrong, the problem isn’t only the awkward pauses, it was Cain’s inability to flesh out an answer due to lack of knowledge. It was also that what little he did say is contrary to how most people feel about Libya.

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 7:37 PM

how most people feel about Libya.WTF
??? Would you let the rest of the shee er, class know how they “feel” about Libya?

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 7:47 PM

THIS WEBSITE IS ALL ABOUT EVERYTHING SMARMY AND LACKING DEPTH WITH ARTICLES WRITTEN BY PEOPLE WHO DON’T KNOW MUCH ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN A LITTLE COMMENTARY ON OTHER’S WORK.

Kermit on November 15, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Wow..Some folks are turnibg on ElRushbo?!?..WTH?..:(

Dire Straits on November 15, 2011 at 7:49 PM

He was saying favorable things about Palin … then Perry … and now Cain.

HondaV65 on November 15, 2011 at 6:18 PM

Hmm. Rush saying favorable things about conservative candidates. Gosh, the horror.

chewmeister on November 15, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Herman Cain…Herman Cain…Herman Cain!!!!!!!!!!!
How about that Gloria Cain?????

balkanmom on November 15, 2011 at 7:46 PM

You can always tell a true lady.

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Kermit on November 15, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Kermit on November 15, 2011 at 7:48 PM

OCCUPY CAPS LOCK!

batterup on November 15, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Wow..Some folks are turnibg on ElRushbo?!?..WTH?..:(

Dire Straits on November 15, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Dire, you know the drill. If you are not drooling over Perry, you’re a past it gasbag. Pay attention.

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 7:52 PM

csdeven on November 15, 2011 at 6:12 PM
Well, look what the cat dragged in.

chewmeister on November 15, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Wow..Some folks are turnig on ElRushbo?!?..WTH?..:(

Dire Straits on November 15, 2011 at 7:49 PM

fixed..:)

Dire Straits on November 15, 2011 at 7:55 PM

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Funny, but obviously everybody decides for themselves how they felt/feel about Libya, but as I recall the polls on Obama’s handling of Libya have been bad, and Cain seems to basically support what Obama did but is only critical about one aspect, vetting our allies. How do you do that from the cockpit of an airplane? You can’t, the strategy was flawed from the beginning, and it was a mistake to ever ally ourselves with Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood.

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 7:56 PM

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 7:52 PM

LoL!..I’ll try do better..:)

Dire Straits on November 15, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Kermit on November 15, 2011 at 7:46 PM

I’m sure they’ll post it.

No worries.
Screaming that HA is biased-and I don’t think it is-lowers us to the level of the Caiacs and Palinistas…and I’d rather not be grouped with them.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 15, 2011 at 7:56 PM

After listening to the entire interview today, yeah, I’m with ya all the way. And that Bialek “I’m not the fiance anymore” post stays buried in the Green Room basement.

Knucklehead on November 15, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Awww… cry me a river…

Let me know when you are holding the next Cain cry-fest. :)

Tee hee hee™

TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Here is a real commentary on other’s work.

http://www.thehayride.com/2011/11/perry-on-hannity-slams-hoyer-touts-package-of-washington-reforms/

It is also from the website which was THE MOST ACCURATE during the Macondo Spill. HotAir was well, full of HotAir, and circle jerk reporting as is the norm by its ignorant wannabe pundits.

Kermit on November 15, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Do I hear the faint sound of drums??..:)

Dire Straits on November 15, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Rush turned my stomach when he said that the reason the women accusing Cain of SH were thinking of a joint PC was because they wanted to synchronize their menstrual cycles. He played along with the Left’s sterotype of conservatives by acting like that. Further, he blamed the victims right away, turned a blind eye to the claims, and couldn’t see that Cain handled the whole thing in the worst way possible. It was hypocritical because he wouldn’t have acted like that if Cain were a Democrat (i.e. Weiner). He and Coulter acted like that which they rail against.

Aslans Girl on November 15, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Here is a real commentary on other’s work.

http://www.thehayride.com/2011/11/perry-on-hannity-slams-hoyer-touts-package-of-washington-reforms/

It is also from the website which was THE MOST ACCURATE during the Macondo Spill. HotAir was well, full of HotAir, and circle jerk reporting as is the norm by its ignorant wannabe pundits.

Kermit on November 15, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Come on, Kermit, calm down your rhetoric. I know some other conservative sites that would have had you banned for less.

Let us make the most of Hot Air. Enjoy the banter. Put out your viewpoint and read what others also have to say.

Every blog is different.

TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Didn’t the media (and some on our side) react with the same “GASP!” reaction when Palin answered the Bush doctrince land mine question?

SouthernGent on November 15, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Rush turned my stomach when he said that the reason the women accusing Cain of SH were thinking of a joint PC was because they wanted to synchronize their menstrual cycles. He played along with the Left’s sterotype of conservatives by acting like that.
Aslans Girl on November 15, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Yes, it’s almost as un-PC horrific as when he plays “My Eyes Adored You” for his Anita Hill updates. Real pearl-clutching stuff! Oh, the humanities!!

whatcat on November 15, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Knucklehead
I think Right Man has a little crush on you. Do you think the Church Lady told him you’re easy? :)

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Guess this is the way to make sure no one catches his gaffes:

Herman Cain says no cameras in the room for his interview with the Union Leader editorial board scheduled for this Thursday

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68439_Page2.html

TriciaNC on November 15, 2011 at 8:13 PM

Rush was wrong, the problem isn’t only the awkward pauses, it was Cain’s inability to flesh out an answer due to lack of knowledge. It was also that what little he did say is contrary to how most people feel about Libya.

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 7:37 PM

You couldn’t be more wrong. It is obvious that you did not listen to the entire clip, and are thus unaware of what Cain said.

HINT: It is the same thing Cain and many other conservatives (and even RINOS) always said previously…before the whole Libya adventure. And now events have proved them ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!

landlines on November 15, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Two more completely wrong assertions:

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 7:41 PM

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 7:56 PM

So either you’re deliberately uninformed, purposefully misunderstanding what you read and hear, or you’re a Liberal Troll.

landlines on November 15, 2011 at 8:21 PM

landlines on November 15, 2011 at 8:15 PM

No, Bachmann and I and many other people here were right, not Obama and Cain. We never should have started bombing Libya to support the “Arab Spring” but Obama and Cain both supported that.

And I did listen to the entire clip, twice, carefully.

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM

landlines, did you support bombing Libya? I didn’t but Cain did. I apposed it because it was perfectly obvious to a lot of us, (not Cain, obviously), that the “Arab Spring” was being falsely billed as a Democracy movement when we knew it was the opposite.

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 8:34 PM

As of today, one such poll has Perry leading in Texas, California and Florida. Does that sound like someone whose campaign is dead?

TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Uhhh:

Two months ago, the Politico-George Washington University Battleground Poll showed Rick Perry clearly ahead in the race for the GOP presidential nomination with 36 percent support. Mitt Romney came in a distant second with 17 percent support, and Reps. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., and Ron Paul, R-Lake Jackson, were tied for third with 10 percent support.

Back then, Herman Cain was an afterthought, polling at 4 percent, ahead of only Jon Huntsman.

But the newest Battleground Poll, released today, shows a 24-point drop in support for Perry and a 23-point gain for Cain.
The former Godfather’s Pizza CEO comes in first this time around with 27 percent of the Republican vote, and Mitt Romney follows close behind at 25 percent support. Cain’s two-point lead is well within the three percentage point margin of error. But he’s certainly far ahead of Perry and Newt Gingrich, who are both tied for third place with 14 percent of the vote, and Paul, who polled just behind them with 10 percent support.

TheRightMan can’t even read his own links right.

Right on cue with the bashing, of course. Your credibility was destroyed long ago.

BKennedy on November 15, 2011 at 8:36 PM

I think Right Man has a little crush on you. Do you think the Church Lady told him you’re easy? :)

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Naw, I would never do that. Although I am sure you are still working towards getting your alone time with Herman “the inappropriate” Cain. I am guessing he will have much time for you in the near future, Now that I singlehandedly brought his campaign down. You can thank me later after your date.

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Rush Limbaugh is such a hypocrite.

He is really is.

The point is not whether or not Cain was right..the point is that Cain was incoherent. He is completely unqualified to be president.Any idiot can see that.

But this is Rush..the guy that shills for the Heritage Foundation on a regular basis in spite of the fact that they helped write the dreaded Romney care..but then again, the Heritage Foundation also pay Rush big bucks in sponsorship fees..so all is forgiven. They can support mandates and contradict themselves and Rush is fine with that.

And Perry can zone out and Rush is fine with that. And Cain can just plain meltdown and Rush is right there talking about what great conservatives they are. blah blah blah.

I would like a president who is well informed and capable of expressing himself like a sane human being..is that so much to ask?

Terrye on November 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM

To those that still support Cain, do you live under power lines? Eat paint chips?

Kerry voted for one war before he was against it, Cain makes Kerry look like the most consistent man to ever live

What is Herman Cain’s position on negotiating with terrorists?

Ok, how about abortion?

How about the assassination of Anwar al-Awlaki?

Are you sure Herman? What is your position of Anwar al-Awlaki’s killing?

To all those still on the Cain Train…stop it…you’re making every other registered Republican look retarded.

LevStrauss on November 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Nobody really knows what Obama’s Libya stance was or is. But I can tell you mine. Qaddafi feared for his life, enough so that he gave up supporting terror as far as our intelligence could tell and handed over his chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs on his own initiative. Libya was going to be an ally of America so long as Qaddafi remained in power, even if it was just as a means to keep his miserable heart pumping. We knew immediately and I would argue Obama had to know in advance of our support, that those trying to topple Qaddafi were allied with Al Qaeda. For the life of me I cannot understand why an American president would hand over the massive munitions Qaddafi’s military possessed as well as the billions of dollars in Gold and Oil revenues Libya possesses to Al Qaeda members and supporters. This is going to turn out very badly for the United States and our allies.

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM

But the newest Battleground Poll, released today, shows a 24-point drop in support for Perry and a 23-point gain for Cain. The former Godfather’s Pizza CEO comes in first this time around with 27 percent of the Republican vote, and Mitt Romney follows close behind at 25 percent support. Cain’s two-point lead is well within the three percentage point margin of error. But he’s certainly far ahead of Perry and Newt Gingrich, who are both tied for third place with 14 percent of the vote, and Paul, who polled just behind them with 10 percent support.

Cain is not going to be able to win this thing. No way. No how. Neither is Perry. Neither is Bachmann. Neither is Paul..

Terrye on November 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 8:36 PM

character assassination. nice.

balkanmom on November 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Cain is not going to be able to win this thing. No way. No how. Neither is Perry. Neither is Bachmann. Neither is Paul..

Terrye on November 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Don’t take my hope for change away!!!! NOOOOoooooo……

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM

I would like a president who is well informed and capable of expressing himself like a sane human being..is that so much to ask?

Terrye on November 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Well maybe Palin will run.

Sorry I couldn’t resist.

LevStrauss on November 15, 2011 at 8:52 PM

character assassination. nice.

balkanmom on November 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Well, they attacked me first. I did not come to the thread to attack Cain or them.

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Rush turned my stomach when he said that the reason the women accusing Cain of SH were thinking of a joint PC was because they wanted to synchronize their menstrual cycles. He played along with the Left’s sterotype of conservatives by acting like that. Further, he blamed the victims right away, turned a blind eye to the claims, and couldn’t see that Cain handled the whole thing in the worst way possible. It was hypocritical because he wouldn’t have acted like that if Cain were a Democrat (i.e. Weiner). He and Coulter acted like that which they rail against.

Aslans Girl on November 15, 2011 at 8:03 PM

What victims? Wipe that drool off your chin. You gotta get your boy over the double digits line and that attitude is just going to drive people away! ;)

MeatHeadinCA on November 15, 2011 at 8:54 PM

No, Bachmann and I and many other people here were right, not Obama and Cain. We never should have started bombing Libya to support the “Arab Spring” but Obama and Cain both supported that.

And I did listen to the entire clip, twice, carefully.

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Amen to not bombing Libya.

MeatHeadinCA on November 15, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Terrye on November 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Bachmann knows her foreign policy. She had the “Arab Spring” pegged and opposed bombing Libya from the get-go. She’d be a great President.

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Well, they attacked me first. I did not come to the thread to attack Cain or them.
astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 8:52 PM

were they attacking knucklehead?
I can’t believe I just spent 5 minutes trying to track that one down….

nonetheless, if “they” are attacking you, please attack “them.” As far as I can tell, Herman Cain has not attacked you.

balkanmom on November 15, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Bachmann understood the truth about the Arab Spring in spite of MSM propaganda because she already understood the dangers we face in the region.

FloatingRock on November 15, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Naw, I would never do that. Although I am sure you are still working towards getting your alone time with Herman “the inappropriate” Cain. I am guessing he will have much time for you in the near future, Now that I singlehandedly brought his campaign down. You can thank me later after your date.

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Child, you need some srious help.

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 9:13 PM

MeatHeadinCA on November 15, 2011 at 8:54 PM

If my annoyance at Rush had anything to do with Perry, then I would’ve gotten over it when Rush defended Perry last week over the “brain-freeze”. This has nothing to do with Perry and everything to do with Rush being hypocritical and juvenile and saying disgusting things about the women, including calling them names.

Aslans Girl on November 15, 2011 at 9:14 PM

If my annoyance at Rush had anything to do with Perry, then I would’ve gotten over it when Rush defended Perry last week over the “brain-freeze”. This has nothing to do with Perry and everything to do with Rush being hypocritical and juvenile and saying disgusting things about the women, including calling them names.

Aslans Girl on November 15, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Don’t you mean that you’re peeved Rush isn’t calling them victims?

And admit it, you are upset that Rush would dare defend Cain and Perry … but not simply prop up Perry.

Desperation isn’t pretty, as you and your friends demonstrate.

MeatHeadinCA on November 15, 2011 at 9:23 PM

To katy the mean old lady and other cain apologists:

You keep saying Herman Cain is a “real” conservative.

Can you please provide some proof of this?

We know that his positions on TARP, unions, taxes, and abortion are not conservative.

What exactly, makes Herman Cain conservative?

bigred on November 15, 2011 at 9:23 PM

This blog now officially sucks. after 5 years I’m leaving, It’s now a Rino/liberal blog…. to Tea Party members & conservatives, move along there is nothing to see here.

G. on November 15, 2011 at 9:27 PM

I’m still hanging with Cain and Perry. The thing about TARP that most forget is that what we were pitched is far different than what they did with it. I wasn’t all in on it, but I could see the justification for the intended purpose. What finally happened with it was idiotic. I’m also fine with 999, provided that all other taxes were eliminated, just like Cain said needed to be done for it to be effective.

Perry still has it for me based on his Federalist view of govt and all the plans he’s put forth.

AH_C on November 15, 2011 at 9:31 PM

We love Herman!!! We love Herman!! We love Herman!!
(bigred getting angrier?)

balkanmom on November 15, 2011 at 9:36 PM

nonetheless, if “they” are attacking you, please attack “them.” As far as I can tell, Herman Cain has not attacked you.

balkanmom on November 15, 2011 at 9:00 PM

No, but as a public figure, he does not have to. I am perfectly within my rights to make judgements on his character with what ever information is available. I stated that I did not believe the women and I did not believe Cain. I stated that I thought the trust was somewhere in the middle of the charges. he spent an inordinate amount of time getting women to be alone with him, and some if not all these women were alone with him. In this respect, I made the judgement that I think Cain did act inappropriately as he positioned himself and the women into inappropriate situations where there could easily be the appearance of improper behavior going on. Then these people started calling me church lady. So, Cain is now Herman “the inappropriate” Cain as far as I am concerned with respect to these particular posters. At least as long as I remember their names. I am pretty good at forgetting past transgressions unless new similar ones reemerge.

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 9:41 PM

MeatHeadinCA on November 15, 2011 at 9:23 PM

Nope. Nice try. As I said, it was that he acted like the Left did and played into the stereotype of the Right that the Left espouses. He defended Perry, this has nothing to do with that. You’re just disappointed that that wasn’t my reason. Too bad.

Aslans Girl on November 15, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Knucklehead
I think Right Man has a little crush on you. Do you think the Church Lady told him you’re easy? :)

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Nope, I just love tormenting her.

You see, I will like to be President someday and unlike Cain I do not want to SH anyone. /wicked grin

(Excuse me for a moment…)

Hey ladies, come back here – you need to sign these NDAs. I don’t want to hear a word from either of you in the future.

Okay, where was I? LOL…

TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 9:48 PM

The thing about TARP that most forget is that what we were pitched is far different than what they did with it. I wasn’t all in on it, but I could see the justification for the intended purpose. What finally happened with it was idiotic. I’m also fine with 999, provided that all other taxes were eliminated, just like Cain said needed to be done for it to be effective.

Perry still has it for me based on his Federalist view of govt and all the plans he’s put forth.

AH_C on November 15, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Go look at the multiple trillions of dollars that the fed FED the banks above and beyond what was FED to them with TARP.

Grand total TARP outs at the time when Bush claimed he did not need the additional $350B was around a total of $300B and much of that force FED down many of the bank’s throats against their will, and paid back in record time. There was no need for TARP, it was a set up in order to rape the American people and set a new standard baseline spending bill size. Even before the votes were tallied, Paulson had already come out and talked about how he came up with $700B. It had to be big enough to scare them into acting and drive the market down to make the American people swallow it whole..

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Rush is only pointing out what everyone seems to be forgetting. The MSM is the enemy.

kahall on November 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM

Ditto.

NebCon on November 15, 2011 at 9:55 PM

Rush is only pointing out what everyone seems to be forgetting. The MSM is the enemy.

kahall on November 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM

Ditto.

NebCon on November 15, 2011 at 9:55 PM

mega dittos

balkanmom on November 15, 2011 at 10:08 PM

LOL,

An hour ago I asked any Cain supporter to come up with evidence that shows he’s actually a conservative.

–Crickets—

Meanwhile, there’s plenty of evidence he is not, including his support for unions.

bigred on November 15, 2011 at 10:23 PM

bigred on November 15, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Yeah, I spent the whole time from Bachmann being in the lead to today asking the same thing. Looking for the same thing. Kept telling my wife he must be conservative, so many people say he is, but I just have not found anything.

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 10:26 PM

As I said, it was that he acted like the Left did and played into the stereotype of the Right that the Left espouses.
Aslans Girl on November 15, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Yes, because Rush had always been so very deeply concerned about what the lunatic fringe left says and thinks about him before. This, of course, means that Rush is doomed!! Doomed, I tell you!!!

whatcat on November 15, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Don’t let that get in the way of the HA bash fest.

katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Did you agree with President Obama on Libya or not?

That is not a gotcha question.

Daemonocracy on November 15, 2011 at 11:00 PM

To all those still on the Cain Train…stop it…you’re making every other registered Republican look retarded.

LevStrauss on November 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Well, the solution to all those Republicans looking retarded is to get on the Cain train. Then they won’t look retarded any more.

Thanks for noticing who is who in the GOP jungle.

platypus on November 15, 2011 at 11:22 PM

To all those still on the Cain Train…stop it…you’re making every other registered Republican look retarded.

LevStrauss on November 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Well, we do know you all lack foresight and intellectual depth, seeing as you’ll happily follow every media narrative like Pavlov’s dog, but I really think you’re selling yourself short here. We will not stop backing a perfectly viable man who has put in a life of hard work and whose positions are easily verifiable through looking at his history of columns and talk show archives.

We will not stop simply because you, by your own admission, cannot keep up.

BKennedy on November 16, 2011 at 12:56 AM

Don’t let that get in the way of the HA bash fest.
katy the mean old lady on November 15, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Did you agree with President Obama on Libya or not?
That is not a gotcha question.
Daemonocracy on November 15, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Actually it is, by omission. It would be like asking “Do you agree with President Reagan on Lebanon?” Since there were many aspects involved – e.g. the deployment of troops, their vulnerability, their hasty withdrawal in response to the bombing, the nearly non-existent retaliation – only a fool would reply with a thoughtless “yes” or “no” instead of asking the questioner to be more specific.
Anytime a media type throws out such a generic, non-specific coverall question they’re on a fishing trip using a net. Wise interviewees don’t get caught in it.

whatcat on November 16, 2011 at 1:04 AM

No Republican candidate has said or done anything that comes even remotely close to the kind of idiocy and gaffes that Barack Obama has made.

Not. Even. Close.

Too many bloggers are looking for excuses to pile on any candidate who is not his or her own.

pupik on November 16, 2011 at 2:10 AM

The truth is… the left is still scared of this guy.

And a lot of conservatives are buying their hit jobs on him.

Sterling Holobyte on November 16, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Sterling Holobyte on November 16, 2011 at 10:13 AM
Amen.

ColdWarrior57 on November 16, 2011 at 12:08 PM

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