Is Newt for real?
posted at 1:55 pm on November 15, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
In this cycle, that question applies to, well, everyone except Mitt Romney, whose support has been consistent if not impressive in primary polling. Romney has clearly failed to engage the enthusiasm of the Republican base, which wants a more conservative candidate, as well as hoping for another quality they find missing in Romney. In my column for The Week, I point out the common thread of the boomlet candidates, and explain why Newt Gingrich’s rise might be the candidate that fits that quality best:
One might be tempted to just dismiss the latest boomlet for Gingrich as a simple matter of waiting his turn, but it is almost certainly more than that. The previous boomlets favored candidates with one quality in common — their perceived enthusiasm for fighting Barack Obama. Tim Pawlenty never caught fire in part because of his easygoing personality, and Jon Huntsman’s track record of working in the Obama administration makes him a suspect candidate, both as a fighter and on policy.
Gingrich, on the other hand, is not just a fighter, but a brilliant fighter. He has used the debates to put his encyclopedic knowledge on display in every aspect of policy. Instead of trying to scale the polling heights by fighting his fellow Republicans, Gingrich has aimed his rhetorical guns at Barack Obama and the national media, the two biggest targets for the Republican grassroots. He dressed down CBS moderator Scott Pelley in Saturday’s debate on a question about killing Americans who join terrorist networks against whom Congress has already authorized military action. Those who want a fighter know that they can trust Gingrich not to embarrass them through incoherence or ignorance, and that he has a more natural inclination to confrontation than Romney.
That won’t make Gingrich an instant hero to conservatives. As I note in the introduction to the column, Gingrich can be described — with some justice — as the antithesis of a Tea Party candidate. He has dwelt in the Beltway for decades, which is also one of his strengths in policy acumen, and has committed a number of heterodoxies, if not outright heresies, over the years. Gene Healy at the Washington Examiner makes the (mostly) legitimate, comprehensive case against Gingrich:
In 2003, Gingrich stumped hard for President George W. Bush’s prescription drug bill, which has added about $17 trillion to Medicare’s unfunded liabilities. “Every conservative member of Congress should vote for this Medicare bill,” Newt urged.
And in his 2008 book “Real Change,” he endorsed an individual mandate for health insurance.
In a 2006 piece for Human Events, Gingrich offered House Republicans “11 Ways to Say: ‘We’re Not Nancy Pelosi.’ ” Point seven proposed a Solyndra-on-steroids industrial policy devoted to “developing more clean coal solutions, investing in a conversion to a hydrogen economy” and more. It’s not clear why the former madame speaker would complain.
It’s also unclear why anybody looking to distance himself from Pelosi would plop down on a love seat with her to call for government action on climate change — as Gingrich did in a 2008 television commercial.
It was a season of bipartisan chumminess for Newt. “Kerry and Gingrich Hugging Trees — and (Almost) Each Other,” the Washington Post described a 2007 global warming event Gingrich headlined with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.
Later, the Cato VP describes Gingrich as having “a zany, almost Cliff Clavin aspect to his intellect,” which is a little mystifying, given the demonstrated depth of Gingrich’s policy knowledge. Even when trailing badly in the polls, Gingrich has owned the debates. If he has had a clunker or two for ideas, spread over three decades, it doesn’t amount to a “Cliff Clavin” level of expertise. With that exception, Healy makes a pretty good case why Gingrich has failed to catch fire … until now.
So why have voters taken a new look now? After watching the other boomlet candidates implode due to incoherence, ignorance, and hyperbole, voters may want to get a candidate that makes them feel secure about expertise in both policy and the ability to argue it. Of the boomlet candidates, only Bachmann filled the bill as a down-the-line conservative anyway; Cain supported TARP, for instance, and Perry has a big problem with crony capitalism to go with his job-creation story. Bachmann proved unreliable at maintaining credibility with her tendency to overshoot rhetorically and get herself in trouble, and her attacks on fellow Republicans may have also backfired a bit, too.
Gingrich may not be a conservative dream candidate, but he has worked with grassroots conservatives far more than Mitt Romney has over the last several years, and he shows a much greater tendency to fight than Romney does as well. If there are no reliable conservatives whom voters can trust not to make fools of themselves in a long campaign, Gingrich at least fills that bill. And compared to Mitt Romney, Gingrich may well be conservative enough to become a rally point — much like Romney himself was in 2008, albeit too late to stop John McCain from winning the nomination.









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Unfortunately, many conservatives are determined to remain in stupor again like in 2008 and only wake up when it is too late and Romney has wrapped up the nomination.
I have said before that, should Romney win, many will wake up to Perry’s record and beat themselves wondering how they missed that.
Records, not rhetoric, will beat Obama.
Perry has this election tailor-made for him. All he has to tell Obama is compare and contrast records in the same economy.
TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 2:51 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/behind-the-numbers/post/perry-slides-again-as-gop-turns-away/2011/11/14/gIQA7SdaMN_blog.html
I think that Perry window is closing pretty fast man.
nswider on November 15, 2011 at 2:52 PM
He could choose a smart, young, sassy former Gov. as a running mate; someone who could bring the TEA Party and a large contingent of independents to the voting booth……
Gingrich/Palin 2012, anyone?
BobMbx on November 15, 2011 at 2:53 PM
I’m sorry, but you seem to have a little bit of Obama on your chin still.
And on your rose colored glasses.
lorien1973 on November 15, 2011 at 2:54 PM
He probably can’t. At least with Newt he might win, and he might take action in DC. He did it before in the 90′s and it follows that he might again. Romney, Perry, and Cain are either incompetent or not worth electing.
sharrukin on November 15, 2011 at 2:56 PM
I’d rather see Bolton as Secretary of state.
UltimateBob on November 15, 2011 at 2:57 PM
There ain’t no such thing as a perfect
mancandidateHallelujah trail
You
girlsvoters gotta do the best you canHallelujah trail
(with apologies to Elmer Bernstein)
bandarlog on November 15, 2011 at 2:59 PM
I presonally would love to see that, but independents won’t vote for Palin. The left, and the MSM (redundant, I know) destroyed her last time around.
UltimateBob on November 15, 2011 at 2:59 PM
The problem with that is we need more than just a great debater, but someone who governs great as well. And it appears so far, that that person decided to take a pass this year.
Not only would she have cleaned obama’s clock in the debate, but should would do the same to congress when she got there, if they did not follow what the voters wanted
ConservativePartyNow on November 15, 2011 at 3:01 PM
I’m sold on Palin as the head of the to-be-combined departments of Energy and Interior. VP would both give Obama a bogeyman and not be a particularly effective spot for her.
Cain might fit the bill.
alwaysfiredup on November 15, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Newt/West. Bolton SOS.
Kataklysmic on November 15, 2011 at 3:02 PM
I long since abandoned Newt due to a multitude of issues which seemed to occur one after the other.
But he is the only person in the GOP field who can brilliantly articulate a conservative position (even though his own record is decidedly not consistently conservative).
He absolutely owned Maria Bartiromo to the point that future moderators will spend more time preparing for Newt than they do for the rest of the field combined.
He would completely slice and dice our dim-witted Commander in Chief.
It’s too bad that his brainpower exceeds his principles and his level of conservatism.
If he could bring the latter into conformity or parity with the former, he would be my man for sure, but it is quite late to start developing principles and core conservative values.
I don’t want someone who will make nice with the Democrats.
I want someone who will try to run them over and obliterate their socialist agenda.
molonlabe28 on November 15, 2011 at 3:03 PM
Nope, it is a Romney strategy and it will play out lots over the next three weeks. I said it in another thread:
Go figure…
TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 3:04 PM
Gingrich / West maybe.
Rubio is just too UNINSPIRATIONAL.
let Allen West school Joe Biden in a debate.
Now THAT would be inspiring.
PappyD61 on November 15, 2011 at 3:04 PM
Here are the Hannity – Newt interviews
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html#/v/1276947958001/can-newt-gingrich-win-iowa/?playlist_id=86924
stenwin77 on November 15, 2011 at 3:04 PM
Baloney! Most of the Tea Party people are independant. They have been burned by both parties, and now are looking for someone that stands for them
ConservativePartyNow on November 15, 2011 at 3:05 PM
You’ve got such a track record of correct predictions, too. /
alwaysfiredup on November 15, 2011 at 3:05 PM
1. Alan Keyes? Yeah, that was some major accomplishment. Why was Keyes even there, by the way?
2. He defeated Hillary because of the black vote. Democrats can’t win without the black vote, and she lost it big time. 97% of it went for Obama.
3. McCain was a horrible debater who lacked the ability, the knowledge, AND the desire to call Obama on some of his BS. He’s not even in the same zip code as Newt.
To borrow from Herman Cain, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Not that it matters though. If Newt is our candidate, he will lose, no matter how badly he destroys Obama in the debates.
xblade on November 15, 2011 at 3:06 PM
We will never have the ideal conservative- that’s my point. If we think we do, we won’t after the press (and our own) get through with them. There is a difference between “leaning in a different direction” and jumping willy-nilly on to the next bandwagon that comes along whenever something negative arises. I am a Perry supporter but am speaking in generalities because this is happening, one by one, to every candidate. Next it will be Newt. Lots of posters here fail to see this pattern, then they get soooooooo disappointed and heartbroken. Repeatedly. Seems silly.
kg598301 on November 15, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Romneys campaign didnt conduct those polls. Romneys campaign didnt make people answer what they did to the pollsters. Its getting a bit ridiculous how you blame Romney for all of your candidates problems. Romney tried to help your candidate by saying EPA as he fumbled that question. Romney hasnt made your candidate a terrible debater. Romney isnt doing anything to Perry, its his own doing. Seeing a Romney boogyman every time there is bad news about your candidate is totally irrational.
nswider on November 15, 2011 at 3:07 PM
I remember Deedee.
kringeesmom on November 15, 2011 at 3:07 PM
That Romney sure is a slippery one. First he uses Jedi mind trick to make Newt perform exceptionally well in all the debates. Then he implants nanobots in both Perry and Cain’s brains so that they make campaign ending gaffes.
I’m going to start calling him Machaillvelli Mitt! /
Kataklysmic on November 15, 2011 at 3:08 PM
Thats clever actually, much more clever then “mittens” which i hear tossed around. As if its insulting to be called a warm fuzzy glove, lol.
nswider on November 15, 2011 at 3:11 PM
Couldn’t agree more. By the way you left out the bad judgement in his personal life, which is no small thing.
kg598301 on November 15, 2011 at 3:13 PM
Gingrich/Romney???
I know that sounds strange. But Gingrich can say I picked my VP based on his executive experience and we will work together as a team in the white house.
Oil Can on November 15, 2011 at 3:15 PM
This is also true of Romney.
Romney has been attacked, repeatedly, during the debates, & he has deftly turned the attacks back on his opponents’ heads, most notably the severe spankings Perry got.
itsnotaboutme on November 15, 2011 at 3:20 PM
Can it be Rick Santorums’ turn to be front-runner after Newt?
PappyD61 on November 15, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Newt has done well because he can talk a lot in the huge number of debates the Republicans have had and make people forget his arrogance and personal and policy heresies. What happens if we put all of our hopes and prayers into “Newt the Debater” and Obama agrees to one or two debates at times when no one will watch? I’d like to start over with a new crop of candidates please, can I pull an Obama and just vote “present” on this group?
jnelchef on November 15, 2011 at 3:21 PM
As a Tea Partier and a fiscal conservative, I know Palin stands for me. Since I read her Facebook posts and her books, I am aware of her record, and I know where she stands on the issues.
I’m talking about the “independents” who get their news from Jon Stewart, David Letterman, and SNL. To this day, 3 years after the 2008 elections, they’re still mocking Palin every chance they get. They still believe that she said she can see Russia from her house. They think she’s a joke, and they’ll never be able to bring themselves to vote for her.
“Independent” is a pretty broad term. Remember, a lot of the OWS people consider themselves independent, too. Can you imagine any of them ever voting for Sarah Palin?
I could be wrong, but I think that the Conservative votes and conservative-leaning independent votes won’t be enough to put her over the top. Although, that will also depend on who is at the top of the ticket.
UltimateBob on November 15, 2011 at 3:22 PM
Me too. If the NY-23 voters had been left alone, she would most likely had won. Crucify Newt for wanting to keep the seat why don’t you.
mike_NC9 on November 15, 2011 at 3:23 PM
Newt has more baggage than Kim Kardashian on a shopping trip. I like him OK, but he worries me because he has so many skeletons in the closet.
Also, he is a bit of an egg head too. I doubt he can beat Obama, and that is extremely important. Four more years of Obama would be a Bolivian train wreck for the USA. His race to turn the American public from self reliance and personal responsibility to government dependents would roll on. Once achieved, it would be very difficult to get that toothpaste back into the tube.
There are a lot of really stupid and gullible people out there, and many of them vote.
saiga on November 15, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Now that wasn’t nice, but hey, we’re talking politics, not fuzzy bunnies and rainbows, so insults are no big deal. And my point still stands: if your idea of the key to victory in 2012 is Newt Gingrich humiliating Obama during the presidential debates, you’re wrong. He won’t. You’re also wrong if you think Obama will be a pushover. He’ll have a near-billion dollar campaign war chest and most of the media plugging for him. It’s going to be close no matter who wins the GOP nomination.
So yeah: nominating Newt! plus underestimating Obama equals total fail.
troyriser_gopftw on November 15, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Not really. On the RCP average he has gone from 10 to 9.9 since November 2, that is hardly going “downhill”. If Cain continues to slide he will pick up some of that support- it won’t all go to Newt by a long shot. And after the media gets done with Newt, it’s quite possible he’ll be back in the top 3 or even 2. I’m not being a vulture, just looking at the realistic possibilities based on the craziness I’ve seen so far.
kg598301 on November 15, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Not for me. I can see the writing on the wall. Much like McCain in 08, the only candidate who isn’t being crucified by the LSM is Newt. When it’s all over, we’ll have the candidate that is determined to be electable. About that time, all of Newt’s dirty laundry will come out.
Women will not like him and won’t vote for him because he is an adulterer. Christians will also avoid the polls for the same reason. Next Constitutionalists like the Tea Party will object to his comments on the Constitution, and it getting in the way of Government.
Should I continue? Yet you all cheer night and day that Newt is the one because of the debates. Look at the history, the Debates haven’t ever won an election. The best debater isn’t always the winner. Remember Gore, too hot, too cold, just right in the three debates? Bush didn’t hit any balls out of the park, and we all breathed a sigh of relief that he didn’t screw it up.
If we picked the best public speaker with knowledge of the information, each year we would put Rush Limbaugh up, and the other side would put Kieth Olberman.
If my choice is Newt and Obama. I won’t bother voting, because both stink so bad that no amount of holding my nose would allow me to cast a ballot without projectile vomit showering the voting booth.
Snake307 on November 15, 2011 at 3:32 PM
Thank you very much, it’s an art. /
TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 3:36 PM
Maybe. But to say its an uphill battle for him is putting it kindly.
nswider on November 15, 2011 at 3:36 PM
If you don’t vote than you can’t complain about the results.
gator70 on November 15, 2011 at 3:36 PM
For some reason, he has not caught fire. He seems like a good enough candidate.
saiga on November 15, 2011 at 3:38 PM
Sorry, he missed the boat.
Gingrich’s rise actually benefits Perry.
In order to bring him down, watch the Romneybots/Cainiacs/Bachmannians/Santorum babies now make the argument that probably an over-reliance on the debates alone to pick nominees might not be a wise strategy.
That forces the conversation to the candidates’ records – and you do know who that helps, right?
:)
TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 3:58 PM
Same thing I telling my working adult kids!!!
RedLizard64 on November 15, 2011 at 4:02 PM
So, as long as I write in santa clause as my vote, I can complain about the results? But if every last candidate presented to me by the time I am allowed to vote is unacceptable, I am not allowed to complain if I do not go to the polling station and write in a meaningless name?
astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 4:22 PM
I’m still marveling how Romney, by the sheer force of his mighty all-powerful mind, also made Ford fumble on Eastern Europe. His masterful mental manipulation of Howard Dean in forcing Howard to scream was nothing short of astounding!
whatcat on November 15, 2011 at 4:27 PM
I just left a rebuttal to the NEWT won’t last post at the top of the page. I still don’t like the DEEDEE S. thing, I can forgive the AGW thing. and here is how I will however it twinges Christian sensibilities, get past his Womanizing:
This statement from article “They’re also probably not quite fully aware that his wife is his ex-mistress, the woman with whom he was committing infidelity at precisely the same moment he was baying that Bill Clinton had driven America to ruination by doing the same.”
….Belies your role as a shill for the DNC and your lack of knowledge in recent US history. First Gingrich did not excoriate Clinton for the infidelity as much as Clinton’s perjury. Plus Newt had the decency to divorce the woman he did not want to be with in order to legally and morally be with whom he wanted…not condoning his action, but it is laffable on your part to try to make them synonomous…plus as far as I know Newt further more had the decency to get a hotel room away from the workplace. Can you image what would have happened if some group of girlscouts had mistakely been ushered in to the Oval Office while President Clinton was molesting his intern who was less than half his age?
And that my friends is how you counter the Progessives from setting the narrative. NEWT has already admitted to moral lapses and even being wishy washy on somethig like AGW. But the man understands and SUPPORTS the constitution. Plus I thnk that Callista knows that her future depends on keeping horndog on a leash, if his proclivities have not been dampened by age or by finally settling on a woman that he found attractive ( I am assuming mentally as well as physicaly) enough to stick with.
RedLizard64 on November 15, 2011 at 4:27 PM
OT: Perry leads Romney in Texas, California and Florida
The Perry comeback is beginning, folks.
You betcha!
TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 4:28 PM
I remember the Contract with America.
I remember welfare reform during a Dem Presidency.
I remember 4 years of a balanced budget under a Dem President.
I remember lower taxes during a Dem Presidency.
I remember 4.2 unemployment during a Dem. Presidency.
I remember the last 10 debates….
stenwin77 on November 15, 2011 at 4:32 PM
First off, Sarah is too much of a prima donna to run in second place. Sort of a been there done that.
Second, the left and the MSM did not destroy Sarah. Whatever damage was done, she did to herself.
Third, anybody looking for someone who stands for them better not look at Sarah. She already showed how much she would stand for them and it was only while it suits her. When it doesn’t suit her any more, be gone with you is her message.
You Palin kool-aid drinkers need to get over your infatuation with her. Otherwise, you are going to waste your life chasing something that was NEVER real.
We can do far worse than Cain or Newt. If we listen to the Sarah swooners, we probably will do worse.
platypus on November 15, 2011 at 4:33 PM
Appearing on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Gingrich told host David Gregory that he continues to advocate for a plan he first called for in the early 1990s as a Congressman, which requires every uninsured citizen to purchase or acquire health insurance.
Gregory played a clip of Gingrich speaking during an appearance on Meet the Press in October 1993:
“I am for people, individuals — exactly like automobile insurance — individuals having health insurance and being required to have health insurance. And I am prepared to vote for a voucher system which will give individuals, on a sliding scale, a government subsidy so we insure that everyone as individuals have health insurance.”
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/gingrich-health-care-insurance/2011/05/15/id/396426
Zcat on November 15, 2011 at 4:33 PM
It’s all about the Supreme Courts. Newt will appoint sound, constitutional judges. That’s about the only reason I’ll support him.
stenwin77 on November 15, 2011 at 4:36 PM
Well played.
Kataklysmic on November 15, 2011 at 4:40 PM
So the Politico snipers are back at it again, we are gonna be left with Stinky Peterson as our candidate! I know I know who is Stinky Peterson, well he is the guy we have left after the MSM destorys that libertarian guy whose name nobody knows.
Please everyone just send Politco and corportate Huffhoespost some cow patties as a gift. Has anyone occupied the Aol Huffhoesposts offices yet after shanking all those bloggers in the butt, she kept the money, they got the shaft. Corporate greed and all!
Africanus on November 15, 2011 at 4:42 PM
Perry is leading in California, Texas and um, oh … um, I forget. Ooops.
lorien1973 on November 15, 2011 at 4:45 PM
Newt’s only administrative experience was as Speaker of the House and his underlings ousted him. He has no executive experience. He’s a professor, which means little dictator. I’d love to see him as VP because part of that role is to be a lightning rod and say the stuff the President can’t say. I just don’t know if he can be subordinate to anybody.
If he gets the nomination, I’ll vote for him, but I think he’ll be a one-termer, unless Obama runs against him in 2016 or he’s learned how to not rub people the wrong way. (Split infinitives be damned.)
flataffect on November 15, 2011 at 4:51 PM
Old news…
The new and invigorated Perry 2.0 has been unveiled. :)
TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 5:00 PM
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Well there’s that… and the fact that Barry hates the America that I love. “Fundamentally change”… Into what. Have you asked yourself that? And then checked his words and actions to have an honest answer?
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Please let’s not act as if there is only a nickle’s difference between Newt, Romney, any other GOPer… and Obama.
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RalphyBoy on November 15, 2011 at 5:13 PM
Just a taste of Barry’s intentions…
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Ask yourself… What does he need that for?
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RalphyBoy on November 15, 2011 at 5:19 PM
Oh, absolutely.
kg598301 on November 15, 2011 at 5:25 PM
Save this you’ll need to post again before this is all worked out!
RedLizard64 on November 15, 2011 at 6:01 PM
Is Rick Perry for real? I just saw him on TV calling for a part-time Congress. I didn’t know the POTUS could set the salary and work hours of members of Congress?
Punchenko on November 15, 2011 at 6:06 PM
lol Don’t bother the Perry worshipers with the facts. The fantasy world they have created for themselves is impervious to reality.
csdeven on November 15, 2011 at 6:06 PM
Here is Rick Perry’s plan (via Moe Lane of RedState):
Now, Punchenko, care to tell me which of these you disagree with as a conservative? Crickets….
TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 6:21 PM
I agree with it, but Perry is too stupid to advance it. :-(
Newt!
Punchenko on November 15, 2011 at 6:25 PM
Sad to see the push for Newt, he’s proved again and again and again that he is a statist. Has he flip-flopped yet on his support for Ethanol subsidies? (or is the money he’s receiving from the Ethanol fuel lobby too good?)
NORUK on November 15, 2011 at 6:31 PM
Nor does he have the ability to work across the different ideologies of the GOP to get it done.
csdeven on November 15, 2011 at 6:33 PM
whatcat on November 15, 2011 at 6:37 PM
Too easy.
whatcat on November 15, 2011 at 6:38 PM
Sigh… so once again when confronted you backpedal and resort to insults.
- Perry outlined a proposal to reform Govt. – you had a typical kneejerk response.
- I proceeded to give you details – now you don’t disagree with Perry’s plan but think he is too stupid to advance it.
You do realize this “stupid” Perry is the only Gov. since the 2nd World War to actually cut spending, right? He advanced tort reform in his state. And has led his state to become the most prosperous in the nation.
You know what? I’ll take that “stupid” Perry as President anyday over those who are long on rhetoric but short on action.
TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 6:40 PM
Bad idea, it will lead to more political judges rather than less, and with much less stability in the nation. What I would rather see is a tenth Amendment push to give states the power to have a vote of confidence on individual federal judges, including Supreme Court Justices. It would require a new Amendment, but would advance the seriously damaged State’s Rights that the appointment of Senators used to protect.
How can the executive accomplish that? Veto every single spending bill?
Constitutional Amendment required.
Congress makes the laws, the executive enforces them. How can he do this without congress voting for it?
Going to require a constitutional Amendment to hold it at that level, and since that is the maximum amount the federal government has been able to squeeze from the people for a sustained period of time, that leads to still having deficits and not paying off debt. Needs to be lower.
All are funded through congress. I suppose he could just stop filling positions and start firing people willie nilly.
Here he would have the power to do something.
•Audit the government, including the Department of Defense;
Why stop at five years? It should be all regulations, many have past their best if used by date.
Do not think he has the power to enforce that, going to be congress doing it. Of course, it is not like they need their pay anyways, as they are not going to get rid of their insider trading gambit anyways, so maybe they will give this one away?
I pretty much agree with all of it, but most of it is impossible to get accomplished.
Until we the people stand up for our constitution and make politicians follow it, the man in the office of president is never going to significantly alter the direction of the nation. We the people in aggregate today have not yet hit the rock bottom of our OPM addiction. Seems to me that we will not hit that point until after we have been through something far worse than the 1970′s malaise. We are more likely looking at a total financial meltdown with hyperinflation before the lessons our grandparents taught us long ago are forced to be relearned the hard way.
astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 6:43 PM
No, it isn’t. Romney accepts the questions, accepts the premises of the Left. Gingrich does not.
Also not true, I don’t know what debates you’ve been watching. Romney uses the moderators questions to attack other candidates. Gingrich turns the questions back on the moderators and demonstrates why their framing is inaccurate. This is the tactic we need to win in 2012. We cannot win at the Left’s game, we have to have a candidate who demonstrates why their premises are bunk.
alwaysfiredup on November 15, 2011 at 6:51 PM
It’s as absurd and unrealistic as his plan to govern via changing the Constitution at least 7 times.
It’s Hail Mary time for the Perry campaign so his handlers are throwing these goofy wild passes.
whatcat on November 15, 2011 at 6:51 PM
Obama had an impressive list of popular, moderate proposals when he ran, too. Unfortunately they were tossed aside when he took office.
It’s not just what the candidate says during the campaign that matters. Everything before the campaign matters too. I have zero confidence that Perry has any inkling how different the US as a whole is from Texas. I know Gingrich knows what he is doing. He’s no an ideological soul mate but he has a record of getting things done that Perry and Cain lack. The 1996 welfare reform law was monumental. Romney’s only comparable accomplishment is RomneyCare, and that speaks for itself.
alwaysfiredup on November 15, 2011 at 6:54 PM
So if Cain is black walnut, Newt must be cookie dough crunch.
Behold the next flavor of the week folks. Swoon hotair readers!
hanzblinx on November 15, 2011 at 7:13 PM
Newts first instincts are to accept the premises of the left. he just is intellectually honest enough to override those initial instincts using the world the way it is rather than the world the way you think it should be studying.
This is why he was on the bench with Nancy, his first instinct was that the Democrats were going to win the argument and be the only ones with solutions. Of course, that is accepting the premise that something must be done, and giving up far more than half the playing field before the first play.
Unfortunately, Bachmann is not likely to recover, and while I am perfectly happy to vote Obama against a Republican brand destroying candidate like Huntsman, Romney or Paul, I am not willing to do that against Perry or Newt or even Santorum and would be very excited to vote for Bachmann or if dreams come true Palin.
We do have to remember the truth about Newt though. When he had power, he was able to bring about an argument that woke American voters up enough to change the speakership of the house from Democrat control for 40 straight years to Republican control for 12 straight years. It is certainly not his fault that after they booted him to the curb that they chose to move to the left under Bush and destroy every last bit of credibility they had. To give credit where it is due, I was happy to see him go as well, because I felt his personal outside of government life had demonstrated a lack of morals.
He also oversaw the movement away from a total welfare state that allowed cradle to grave coddling of perfectly capable if not downright slovenly people that lasted generations in length. It did not go far enough, but as many on these threads like to reprimand me, it was a start, and instead of a false start, it was a real and meaningful start. That brought about the first surpluses the nation had seen in many decades.
Newt has also been a very student, always learning more and more, and has been willing to admit mistakes and learn from them. His married life is certainly not one to envy, and is surely worthy of our loathing, but we are down to almost no choices that can factually help this nation. I hoped for Cain to be one, but never was able to catch his train and in retrospect today am glad I did not. I hoped for Palin and still do, but it is a real pipe dream to see her enter the race at this time. I hoped Bachmann would pick up Palin’s support, but she crashed, and I really honestly do not see where she went wrong. I lived in Texas for the primary between Perry and KBH and I had thought he would turn out to be a great President, but I soured on him for his policy positions, and to be honest, I bet most of those were the ones that went against his character, but a man who is not willing to live by his character dies by his lies. That leaves Santorum and Newt. Santorum could not convince a Catholic nun to buy his 99.9% off prayer beads, which may be an exaggeration, but I got to get the point across that anything he ever supports will never get passed. Newt on the other hand, flawed as he is, is about our only potential conservative candidate left that holds conservative values, but also has experience in convincing others to follow his lead towards the conservative side of the playing field.
astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 7:41 PM
“Fighter” is way overrated.
What we need is a “Happy Warrior” – Newt doesn’t do “Happy Warrior.”
Newt’s an extreme insider – he had no problem whatsoever playing the “earmark” game when he was Speaker, for example.
His ‘stewardship’ as Speaker was scattershot, disjointed, unfocused.
Newt’s the guy who wants to come in, impress everyone with how much he knows about policy, what great ideas, etc. he has … and then he abandons the project to itself. He doesn’t have the temperament to see things through. We wind up with hundreds of ideas which become half-baked “projects” because he’s off to something else.
He was the “Gingrich who stole Christmas” while he was Speaker – - – the Left would be able to do it to him again.
His personal foibles are too numerous to mention.
“Firing up the base” isn’t everything.
BD57 on November 15, 2011 at 7:52 PM
LOL… and the tear-up of Gingrich also begins…
You know, I’m beginning to think we might end up with Santorum or Paul. They haven’t been through the shredder yet. Could even be Marco Huntsman.
:)
TheRightMan on November 15, 2011 at 8:00 PM
“Not long ago Newt told Jake Tapper of ABC that the big banks need to be broken up: “I think, in retrospect, repealing the Glass-Steagall Act was probably a mistake,” he said. “We should probably reestablish dividing up the big banks into a banking function and an investment function and separating them out again.”
I’m not sure even Barack Obama has taken this position. It’s a thing most liberal politicians don’t even say. For a conservative one to say it—one who is cultivating Tea Party support, no less—is otherworldly. Gingrich will say anything depending on the moment, and he’s been saying anything for 13 years since leaving office, so there’s a long trail for Romney’s oppo team to survey.”
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2011/11/15/the-gingrich-boomlet-wont-last/
The Many Egregious Flip-flops of Newt Gingrich:
bit.ly/vU5HVh
TriciaNC on November 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM
Get in that ring, and swing, baby, swing.
AshleyTKing on November 15, 2011 at 9:31 PM
Hopefully it won’t be necessary for Romney to trash Newt in order to win the nomination. Newt would make an excellent VP conducting the campaign against and distracting the media while Mitt straightens out the economic mess left by Obama.
Basilsbest on November 15, 2011 at 9:49 PM
More evidence Newt Gingrich is a professional con artist
Newt Gingrich took $300,000 bribe from Freddie Mac in 2006
Spathi on November 15, 2011 at 10:00 PM
Newt is for real, and he is the one to lead us in 2012 by force of intellect.
I was in the audience for two speeches by Newt in 2009. That is when I first thought of the above.
Phil Byler on November 15, 2011 at 10:05 PM
Basilsbest, the right ticket is Gingrich-Romney. Sort of like Reagan-Bush the Elder.
Phil Byler on November 15, 2011 at 10:06 PM
I think many Republicans watch Newt on the debate stage tearing up Obama and are satisifed that he’s the only one of the bunch who is giving verbal validation to their own feelings. So what if Newt has had some missteps along the way. At least he has ideas and the intellect to understand policy. As for his flawed personal life, most presidents have had mistresses, even pillars like Ike and FDR, not to mention the much revered JFK and the less revered but respected Bill Clinton. Power is an aphrodesciac and some men take advantage of it. As long as they don’t lie under oath or rape women, I don’t care.
NNtrancer on November 15, 2011 at 10:26 PM
Whatever Newt’s faults (especially his tendency to embrace statist ‘solutions’, leading him to wander off the conservative reservation), I think Newt understands the essential principles that inform the American Experiment. I also think he understands the necessity for America to once again become “the shining city on the hill,” the beacon for the rest of the world, and that means the necessity to maintain and enhance America’s position as leader of the West.
What’s more, he is fully capable of articulating these principles, forcefully, even eloquently. By now a large portion of the electorate has become disenchanted with the constant stream of platitudes and blame pouring from the mouth of the silver-tongued Puppet President. Newt will be a welcome change, and can offer the true hope of a resurgent America. That’s what Ronald Reagan offered, and that’s what we need.
I must say also, I enjoy listening to Newt far more than the rest of the increasingly tedious field of self-styled ‘candidates’. I get the impression that, while Newt would like the Presidency as the crowning achievement of his life, he could easily carry on as the happy ‘solutions-meister’ if it didn’t come to be. Mitt Romney, for one, wants the job too much.
So at this point, if the primary (here in Taxachusetts) were tomorrow, I’d vote for Newt without any hesitation. The country needs turning around, and I think he could do it.
MrLynn on November 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM
I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m getting really sick of the RINOs trying to push their crap on us as “conservative”.
As I’ve said a million times now…
I’M A CONSERVATIVE FIRST, REPUBLICAN SECOND.
IF YOU WANT MY VOTE, A CONSERVATIVE NEEDS TO BE NOMINATED.
At this point, it looks like many trolling here on HA don’t want my vote. I will not vote for Progressives like Romney or Gingrich.
Newt has some nice ideas, but that’s it. How many times will we let him stab us conservatives in the back (amnesty, Pelosi/AGW,…) or drop the ball (Contract with America) before we get the f’ing point?
I am so disgusted with Republicans right now. I personally think it’s about time for conservatives to split from the party. I don’t care about defeating Obama; I care about reversing course and saving our country. And if people here really think the Obama-lites are going to do that, then they’re crazier than the Ronulans.
dominigan on November 16, 2011 at 12:31 AM
Bull#@!t! Watch me!
cartooner on November 16, 2011 at 1:20 AM
I think he’d be a good president… if he didn’t make Bush sound like Einstein on speed. His opponents in his state can’t leverage that because it’s too close Texans’ identity. But if nominated, I think his opposition would eat him alive.
elfman on November 16, 2011 at 9:33 AM
As Allahpundit would say,
“..comes a man..”
..
As Hugh Hewitt would say,
“You know who’s looking really good right now? Mitt Romney.”
Reaps on November 16, 2011 at 9:33 AM
The GOP must be dismantled. There, I said it! Still x fingers that the pipeline on topic right now may change Sarah’s mind but nothing so far on it.
It does feel like we’re playing Twister, though. So for now, Newt. I am bloodthirsty for that debate.
ProudPalinFan on November 16, 2011 at 9:45 AM
Me, I’m a Republican. And since I’ve been around awhile, I’ve seen the definition of ‘conservative’ change over time simply because times change and burning issues of the day come and go. But here’s the deal: if capital-C Conservatives split from the GOP, they’ll discover what Ron Paul and other not-really-Republicans have already figured out: leaving the GOP relegates you to the fringe in what will essentially remain a two-party system. Of course, no political party is permanent. You can ask the Whigs, Know Nothings, and Bull Mooose parties about that. But it would have to be a major schism, an irreconciable division on a major issue, for a third party split to achieve any measure of success. Right now, I can think of no single issue so great it would justify such a split. Not liking Mitt Romney is not enough.
troyriser_gopftw on November 16, 2011 at 11:21 AM
Bob – you nailed it. Add Ryan at Treasury, with Palin in charge of decommissioning DHS, DepEd, EPA, etc., and Mitch Rapp to head CIA.
Aristomenes on November 16, 2011 at 1:56 PM
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