Quotes of the day

posted at 10:46 pm on November 14, 2011 by Allahpundit

Close to 10 additional suspected victims have come forward to the authorities since the arrest of the former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky on Nov. 5 on 40 counts of sexually abusing young boys, according to people close to the investigation. The police are working to confirm the new allegations.

“The news of additional accusations came on a day when Sandusky made his first extended public comments since his arrest, and the resignation of the chief executive of the Second Mile foundation, the charity founded by Sandusky, was made public. They were the latest developments in a case that has led to the ouster of several top university officials, including the football coach, Joe Paterno, and the president, Graham B. Spanier.”

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“Alleged victims of former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky are working with at least two legal teams to prepare civil lawsuits against the university—seeking damages from the university over administrators’ failure to take action.

“‘This may be the most high-profile sexual abuse case ever,’ says Benjamin Andreozzi, a Harrisburg, Pa., lawyer who is representing at least one of the victims listed in grand jury filings. Adreozzi noted that once other potential victims see that they’re ‘not alone,’ perhaps they’ll come forward, too…

“Attorneys close to the cases, meanwhile, believe the number of victims will grow dramatically in the coming days. ‘I think things are going to be fast and furious over the next weeks,’ says Manning J. O’Connor, an attorney in Pittsburgh who has been following the case.”

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“Sam Stellatella, a three-position player in the 1950s for Penn State, is trying to raise funds for Jerry Sandusky’s legal defense.

“Stellatella has donated money and has urged other former players to do the same.

“‘I told him he’s going to need a million dollars to defend himself,’ the 73-year-old Stellatella told teh Associated Press. ‘He called me back and said, ‘What am I going to do with this money?’ I said, ‘Use it for your lawyer because you’re going to need it.’”

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“Mrs Sandusky, 68, attempted to call one of the victims in the weeks leading up to his testimony, despite the fact the now 26-year-old had cut off all contact with Sandusky two years prior.

“She left a message on Victim 7′s phone saying the matter was ‘very important’ but the man, who told the Grand Jury that as a ten-year-old in 1994, Sandusky hugged and inappropriately touched him, did not return the call.

“Part of that alleged abuse took place in the Sandusky family’s State College, Pennsylvania, home, in which Dorothy and her husband raised their six adopted children. Sandusky claimed he and his wife could not have any of their own…

“Quite how much [the Sandusky family] knew about the sexual abuse, which occurred between 1994 and 2009 with a number of incidents at the family home, is now under scrutiny.”

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“In the middle of Curtin Road, John Matko held one handwritten sign in his right hand and rested another against his jeans. Two inches of black tape obscured Penn State’s logo on the 34-year-old father’s hat, as he tried to ignore the jeers, slaps and beer hurled at him.

“‘Put abused kids first,’ one of Matko’s signs read. ‘Don’t be fooled, they all knew. Tom Bradley, everyone must go.’…

“A beer showered Matko. One man slapped his stomach. Another called him a ‘[expletive].’

“‘I understand the culture,’ said Matko, who graduated from Penn State in 2000 with a degree in nutrition. ‘I was part of it. It doesn’t surprise me what I’m getting from them.’”

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“[G]ood people, heroic people, are led into temptation by their very goodness — by the illusion, common to those who have done important deeds, that they have higher responsibilities than the ordinary run of humankind. It’s precisely in the service to these supposed higher responsibilities that they often let more basic ones slip away

“I suspect a similar instinct prompted the higher-ups at Penn State to basically ignore what they described as Jerry Sandusky’s ‘inappropriate conduct,’ and persuaded Paterno that by punting the allegation to his superiors he had fulfilled his responsibility to the victimized child. He had so many important duties, after all, and so many people counting on him. And Sandusky had done so much good over the years …

“The best piece about Darío Castrillón Hoyos was written by the Catholic essayist John Zmirak, and his words apply to Joe Paterno as well. Sins committed in the name of a higher good, Zmirak wrote, can ‘smell and look like lilies. But they flank a coffin. Lying dead and stiff inside that box is natural Justice … what each of us owes the other in an unconditional debt.’”

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“If Penn State officials want to make the point, to their community and the whole country, that what’s going on is a helluva lot more important than football, there is no better way to make it than to forfeit the final two games.

“How could I say this? Isn’t it time for the ‘healing’ to begin? What better way to heal than to cheer the old team on to victory, right? Wrong. We are not yet remotely at the healing stage. That makes the playing of a football game not purgative but grotesque in the current context. To engage in those rituals at this time—rituals I love, by the way, and have participated in since I was about 8 years old and hope to participate in until I draw my last breath—is not to heal. It’s to forget; to force the horror into the background, to bury it in pageantry and team colors and marching bands and tailgate parties and boozed-up alumni taking comfort in ritual. There will be a time for that comfort and those rituals. But the Penn State board should not be permitting them just yet.

“What the board should be doing right now is trying to send the message that what happened is utterly and wholly and universally intolerable. There might be various ways to do it. But there’s really only one that will hurt, that will fully and truly drive the point home. Does Penn State want to be one more ass-covering institution in a world of ass-covering institutions? Or does it want to say—as it has often said during the Paterno era—no; we are different. We are Penn State. That’s their chant, by the way. We are [clap, clap] PENN STATE! They should be the Penn State they have claimed to be. Cancel the season.”

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“When you graft a multimillion-dollar entertainment industry anomalously onto higher education, you produce a bubble of entitlements and exemptions, and eventually, a simple moral derangement.”

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I need a shower…after reading this.

Electrongod on November 14, 2011 at 10:49 PM

I need bleach

Kini on November 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM

Be sure your sins will find you out.

NickDeringer on November 14, 2011 at 10:51 PM

“‘This may be the most high-profile sexual abuse case ever,’ says Benjamin Andreozzi, a Harrisburg, Pa., lawyer who is representing at least one of the victims listed in grand jury filings.

In other words, get out your checkbook Penn State…and the golden pen as well.

BTW, Benjamin, this is a rape case, a child abuse case…a CRIME. The highest profile sex abuse case???? Who knows…Juannita Broderick, oh wait, Bill “Ridin’ Dirty” Clinton…? oh wait, he’s a Dem.

ted c on November 14, 2011 at 10:51 PM

I need bleach

Kini on November 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM

Better yet…

Electrongod on November 14, 2011 at 10:51 PM

“‘I told him he’s going to need a million dollars to defend himself,’ the 73-year-old Stellatella told teh Associated Press.

get with the times, Stellatella….that’s chump change for this case. He’s going to need $30 million plus.

ted c on November 14, 2011 at 10:52 PM

“The best piece about Darío Castrillón Hoyos was written by the Catholic essayist John Zmirak, and his words apply to Joe Paterno as well. Sins committed in the name of a higher good, Zmirak wrote, can ‘smell and look like lilies. But they flank a coffin. Lying dead and stiff inside that box is natural Justice … what each of us owes the other in an unconditional debt.’”

Oh, Allah, you’d make such a good Catholic. You really ought to read some Chesteron or C.S. Lewis (assuming you haven’t already).

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Sorry what about this “Second Mile” group sounds fishy.?

And the elephant in the room is this isn’t about se@ unless both genders were involved this was gay rap$ scandal.

PappyD61 on November 14, 2011 at 10:55 PM

It’s a mental illness fueled by testosterone. What are the odds Sandvsky was abused at that age?

John the Libertarian on November 14, 2011 at 10:55 PM

“When you graft a multimillion-dollar entertainment industry anomalously leftist ideology onto higher education, you produce a bubble of entitlements and exemptions, and eventually, a simple moral derangement.”

works both ways, right?

ted c on November 14, 2011 at 10:55 PM

From the other Sandusky post:

Oops, Sandusky’s lawyer is a pedo too. Impregnated underage girl.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/sandusky_lawyer_impregnated_teenage_7jKwQMCeBlm9RSdr9zeutK?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost

andy85719 on November 14, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Even Satan appalled by Penn State scandal.

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 10:56 PM

Any hope this may start the end of the NCAA programs? Get the sports out of the schools. If you must absolutely have sports at this level, then create and build the “Penn State Football University”, where you don’t have to worry about your GPA….because there aren’t any classes.

After 4 years at the football school, you can either get drafted by the NFL, CFL or somebody’s FL, or you can apply to the school of your choice to get your degree. Just like everyone else.

Or not.

BobMbx on November 14, 2011 at 10:56 PM

It’s a mental illness fueled by testosterone. What are the odds Sandvsky was abused at that age?

John the Libertarian on November 14, 2011 at 10:55 PM

I would be utterly amazed if he were not.

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 10:57 PM

‘He called me back and said, ‘What am I going to do with this money?’ I said, ‘Use it for your lawyer because you’re going to need it.

Money quote..:

Dire Straits on November 14, 2011 at 10:57 PM

get with the times, Stellatella….that’s chump change for this case. He’s going to need $30 million plus.

ted c on November 14, 2011 at 10:52 PM

“One meeelion dollars”

BobMbx on November 14, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Jerry will be dead by his own hand by the end of the week.

Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 10:58 PM

His answer to Costas’s question, “Are you sexually attracted to young boys” was, um, weird super-duper creepy.

Pasalubong on November 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Any hope this may start the end of the NCAA programs? Get the sports out of the schools. If you must absolutely have sports at this level, then create and build the “Penn State Football University”, where you don’t have to worry about your GPA….because there aren’t any classes.

After 4 years at the football school, you can either get drafted by the NFL, CFL or somebody’s FL, or you can apply to the school of your choice to get your degree. Just like everyone else.

Or not.

BobMbx on November 14, 2011 at 10:56 PM

no. Aside from this, the NCAA has done more to educate, train and develop talent through our country than many organizations. The NCAA really does a great job at protecting student athletes, not that they were in jeopardy here–the issue is children.

Competition is a part of a university’s life–academically, athletically and in many other ways. While college football is big bucks, you rightfully point out that it can be exploited on many levels by players, parents, coaches, teams, and schools. That’s not the issue. Child rape is the issue and there is not a dollar that matters there except when the bottom line was considered in protecting this neandrathal’s ass.

ted c on November 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM

I need a shower…after reading this.

Electrongod on November 14, 2011 at 10:49 PM

I need bleach

Kini on November 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM

I need a memory removal of the last ten minutes.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Even Satan appalled by Penn State scandal.

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 10:56 PM

There are going to be plenty of those skits coming soon..

Dire Straits on November 14, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 10:58 PM

I bet the thought has crossed his mind for sure..

Dire Straits on November 14, 2011 at 11:05 PM

It’s a mental illness fueled by testosterone. What are the odds Sandvsky was abused at that age?

John the Libertarian on November 14, 2011 at 10:55 PM

I would be utterly amazed if he were not.

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Isn’t it obvious that that’s the foundation of his wretched sickness?

And it’s why this particular mental illness is nearly always “acquired”. As it is also nearly impossible to reverse once acquired.

Which is why preventing children from being exposed to people such as Sandusky and whoever Sandusky’s abusers were earlier is so important.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 11:06 PM

Jerry will be dead by his own hand by the end of the week.

Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 10:58 PM

Too gutless

darwin-t on November 14, 2011 at 11:08 PM

Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 10:58 PM

Maybe.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:08 PM

Look at it this way, Sandouchesky just needs to name a few Irish Catholic priests that he was an altar boy for back in the day and “voila’” the problem will be shifted out of his lane and the Roman Catholic church will, once again, be the favorite leftie whipping boys.

ted c on November 14, 2011 at 11:08 PM

His answer to Costas’s question, “Are you sexually attracted to young boys” was, um, weird super-duper creepy.

Pasalubong on November 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM

That was most telling about the whole interview. How many seconds did he pause before he could answer?

Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 11:08 PM

I’ll make a prediction. sand*sky comes out for a press conference and says he was sexually abused by Archbishop Somebody, Chief Diocese of the Bloody Melting Heart of St Francis, and then this whole mess starts melting away a bit more……

ted c on November 14, 2011 at 11:10 PM

In my experience as a lawyer, usually when someone repeats a question, it’s to give them time to think of how to express their lying response.

Basilsbest on November 14, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Why are we even hearing from Sandusky? He’s under indictment. Is his lawyer an idiot? Who could even want to listen to this guy anyway?

What an awful, awful thing. God be with all those boys.

J.E. Dyer on November 14, 2011 at 11:15 PM

Jerry will be dead by his own hand by the end of the week.

Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 10:58 PM

Hope so, but doubt it. The judge (a friend of his) gave him a low ($100K) bail bond that he’s already posted with but a $10K fee, yet no required ankle GPS device and no forfeiture of his passport. No need to off yourself when you can just fly away, unfettered.

TXUS on November 14, 2011 at 11:15 PM

I bet the Second Mile is going to dissolve rapidily..

Dire Straits on November 14, 2011 at 11:15 PM

“In the middle of Curtin Road, John Matko held one handwritten sign in his right hand and rested another against his jeans. Two inches of black tape obscured Penn State’s logo on the 34-year-old father’s hat, as he tried to ignore the jeers, slaps and beer hurled at him.

“‘Put abused kids first,’ one of Matko’s signs read. ‘Don’t be fooled, they all knew. Tom Bradley, everyone must go.’…

“A beer showered Matko. One man slapped his stomach. Another called him a ‘[expletive].’

This is Penn State. Football and PSU is more important than children being raped. That is why so many walked away from their own humanity and let this continue.

sharrukin on November 14, 2011 at 11:16 PM

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 11:06 PM

My fave HA commenter. No shit-”Which is why preventing children from being exposed to people such as Sandusky and whoever Sandusky’s abusers were earlier is so important.”

Go ahead and throw your gas on the fire. Gay rape- your topic of choice.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM

I can’t watch. What was his answer to the question about being attracted to boys?

JAM on November 14, 2011 at 11:18 PM

In my experience as a lawyer, usually when someone repeats a question, it’s to give them time to think of how to express their lying response.

Basilsbest on November 14, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Yeah, agreed and I’m not a lawyer.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Gay rape- your topic of choice.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM

You’re a sick person. Also a liar.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Too gutless

darwin-t on November 14, 2011 at 11:08 PM

Or leave the country. If there are more people coming forward, can someone revoke Jerry’s bail?

Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 11:19 PM

As the mother of two boys, ages 4 and 7, my greatest fear is that they might come in contact with such a monster. My oldest is at the age now where he is wanting to attend sleep overs, and there is just no way I am ready for that. I know eventually we’ll have let go and hope what we’ve taught them has sunk in, but damn. We’ve had the bad touch talk many times, and how they must listen to their Spidey Sense but still it scares the crap out of me.

Nikkia2112 on November 14, 2011 at 11:19 PM

As the mother of two boys, ages 4 and 7, my greatest fear is that they might come in contact with such a monster. My oldest is at the age now where he is wanting to attend sleep overs, and there is just no way I am ready for that. I know eventually we’ll have let go and hope what we’ve taught them has sunk in, but damn. We’ve had the bad touch talk many times, and how they must listen to their Spidey Sense but still it scares the crap out of me.

Nikkia2112 on November 14, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Your instincts are right; 7 is too young. We waited until our oldest was closer to 10.

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 11:06 PM

My fave HA commenter. No shit-”Which is why preventing children from being exposed to people such as Sandusky and whoever Sandusky’s abusers were earlier is so important.”

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM

What about what I wrote is not factually supported.

But this statement by you…

Go ahead and throw your gas on the fire. Gay rape- your topic of choice.

is very sick.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Jerry will be dead by his own hand by the end of the week.
Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 10:58 PM

He needs to be on suicide watch…don’t let him kill himself. I want him never to escape what he did to these children.

gracie on November 14, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Nikkia2112 on November 14, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Plus there are some school teachers that are pervs also..:(

Dire Straits on November 14, 2011 at 11:22 PM

I bet the Second Mile is going to dissolve rapidily..

Dire Straits on November 14, 2011 at 11:15 PM

I hope law enforcement remains on the list of names who are members and/or associated.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 11:24 PM

I hope law enforcement remains on the list of names who are members and/or associated.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 11:24 PM

The CEO of the Second Mile foundation resigned yesterday and they also cancelled (postponded) a very big Fundraiser..

Dire Straits on November 14, 2011 at 11:28 PM

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Past statements you made here. You show up on any gay topic. I come here now and then-yeah, I remember you. Call me sick..your the one with the prob. It was funny to see you pop up with your psycho analytical opinion. No surprise. I’m a liar? heh..the vault my friend. Hetero-homo- dude should fry.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:28 PM

What I like is the story of the DA who was given the info about this stuff going on in, I believe, 1998 and didn’t prosecute anyone. He has now been missing since 2005.

Mirimichi on November 14, 2011 at 11:29 PM

I can’t watch. What was his answer to the question about being attracted to boys?

JAM on November 14, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Costas asked him directly if he was “sexually attracted to young boys — to underage boys?” Sandus ky slowly repeated the question and then repeated again “Sexually attracted? You know — I, I enjoy young people. I love to be around them. I — I but no – I am not sexually attracted to young boys.” Very odd way to answer a question.

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:29 PM

I have to take on three popular pedophiles in positions of power… not one of them was abused when he was a child. I think we should walk back that meme until we actually get some evidence. It is not a foregone conclusion.

mankai on November 14, 2011 at 11:30 PM

What about what I wrote is not factually supported.

But this statement by you…

Go ahead and throw your gas on the fire. Gay rape- your topic of choice.
…is very sick.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 11:22 PM

This would be a lot easier to go along with were it not for the existence of NAMBLA and other groups like it.

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:31 PM

I have to take on three popular pedophiles in positions of power… not one of them was abused when he was a child. I think we should walk back that meme until we actually get some evidence. It is not a foregone conclusion.

mankai on November 14, 2011 at 11:30 PM

What do you mean you “have to take on” three pedophiles? Are you a prosecutor or something?

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:32 PM

I need bleach

Kini on November 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM

old fashipned Lye soap is worse than bleach… as it does the same things.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:32 PM

Why are we even hearing from Sandusky? He’s under indictment. Is his lawyer an idiot? Who could even want to listen to this guy anyway?

J.E. Dyer on November 14, 2011 at 11:15 PM

Ain’t that the truth. Bizarre.

SlaveDog on November 14, 2011 at 11:32 PM

In Case anyone missed this(Friends in High Places)tidbit!
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Report: Judge who ordered ex-Penn State coach Sandusky free on bail had volunteered with his charity – @Deadspin
Nov 13 2011 at 6:59PM
Hot
Update

http://www.breakingnews.com/
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Judge Who Set Unsecured Bail For Jerry Sandusky Is A Second Mile Volunteer [UPDATE]
Nov 13 2011 at 3:51PM
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When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor. District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing.

Judge Dutchcot has quite the professional resume. In addition to her duties as district judge, she is of counsel to the firm Goodall & Yurchak. It speaks to the small-town nature of the county, I suppose, that the firm’s URL is “centrelaw.com.” According to her profile, Judge Dutchcot has been named the State College Lawyer of the Year, completed a “Leadership” program and has served as a counselor at Centre County Law Enforcement Camp Cadet, Inc.

Of course, also according to her profile, Judge Dutchcot is a volunteer for Sandusky’s group, The Second Mile. Sandusky turned himself in the morning of Nov. 5, a Saturday, at Judge Dutchot’s Centre County office. He was released, under the aforementioned terms, shortly thereafter.

Attorneys often serve charitable foundations in their pro bono capacities, or just volunteer in their spare time, so there is nothing weird about that. It just seems that, given the nature of the charges, the small-town atmosphere, and her relationship to Second Mile, Judge Dutchcot should have recused herself from being involved with this process. Or that could be precisely why she did not.

Update (3:20 p.m., Nov. 14): Her bio’s been pulled. Here’s the screenshot:
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Update (4:19 p.m., Nov. 14): Pa. Criminal Attorney On Sandusky Judge: “I Have Never Had A Client Who Was Charged With Those Counts Released On Unsecured Bail”

h/t Luke C.

Leslie Dutchcot [Attorney Profile]
Former Penn State coaching legend Jerry Sandusky could face life in prison if convicted on charges of sex abuse against boys [Penn Live]
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http://deadspin.com/5859075/judge-who-set-unsecured-bail-for-jerry-sandusky-is-a-second-mile-volunteer

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 11:33 PM

What I like is the story of the DA who was given the info about this stuff going on in, I believe, 1998 and didn’t prosecute anyone. He has now been missing since 2005.

Mirimichi on November 14, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Coincidence? I think no. But we will see. I think there is more. Gonna be real bad.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:33 PM

The were [clap, clap] PENN STATE!

SlaveDog on November 14, 2011 at 11:33 PM

Costas asked him directly if he was “sexually attracted to young boys — to underage boys?” Sandus ky slowly repeated the question and then repeated again “Sexually attracted? You know — I, I enjoy young people. I love to be around them. I — I but no – I am not sexually attracted to young boys.” Very odd way to answer a question.

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:29 PM

my head hurts due to my blood pressure rising, because you know he is lying.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:34 PM

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:31 PM

I enjoy your posts. My response to Lourdes was for a reason. Maybe some here won’t get it.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:36 PM

“When you graft a multimillion-dollar entertainment industry anomalously onto higher education, you produce a bubble of entitlements and exemptions, and eventually, a simple moral derangement.”
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Yes,an Integrity/Moral Abyss!

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 11:37 PM

Cynccook, I am writing from my phone… I should have written, “I have had”… past tense.

Popular preacher, his son, and a local swim coach … all 3 protected from the law.

After a lot of screaming and hell- raising, I was at least able to get the preacher out the pulpit, his enabler wife to be shamed and the swim coach fired. I involved the police but their friends intervened to destroy evidence. If the victims of the preacher and his son (now adults) wanted to go after them, they could.

mankai on November 14, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Coincidence? I think no. But we will see. I think there is more. Gonna be real bad.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:33 PM

Maybe. But, I don’t think it is a coincidence.

Mirimichi on November 14, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Mirimichi on November 14, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Then we agree.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:41 PM

I need bleach

Kini on November 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM

Kini:Aviation Fuel,le match!:)

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Coincidence? I think no. But we will see. I think there is more. Gonna be real bad.
bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:33 PM

why do I have this bad eeling that the group was a mass sex trap for kids? It sure seems to be heading that way.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:42 PM

Then we agree.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Yes. My mistake.

Mirimichi on November 14, 2011 at 11:42 PM

why do I have this bad eeling that the group was a mass sex trap for kids? It sure seems to be heading that way.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:42 PM

I agree. I think this thing is a lot bigger than we know right now. Too many people already who knew and didn’t do or say anything about it.

Mirimichi on November 14, 2011 at 11:44 PM

why do I have this bad eeling that the group was a mass sex trap for kids? It sure seems to be heading that way.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:42 PM

Especially with the rumors and the stuff AP posted a few days ago about this place pimping out young boys to high paying clients.

That hasn’t been confirmed yet, but I’m sure they’re digging.

Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 11:46 PM

Popular preacher, his son, and a local swim coach … all 3 protected from the law.

After a lot of screaming and hell- raising, I was at least able to get the preacher out the pulpit, his enabler wife to be shamed and the swim coach fired. I involved the police but their friends intervened to destroy evidence. If the victims of the preacher and his son (now adults) wanted to go after them, they could.

mankai on November 14, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Good grief. It really is a hidden epidemic of horribleness, isn’t it?

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:46 PM

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:42 PM

I worked in the CJ system-saw so much. I agree with you-more to come and something that will blow people away. This happens everyday-but the high profile of this case will make an impact. needed.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:46 PM

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:31 PM

I enjoy your posts. My response to Lourdes was for a reason. Maybe some here won’t get it.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:36 PM

Well, I’m not exactly sure what you’re getting at, but I think that most people are capable of acknowledging that most gay people are not child predators, just like most straight people are not. Although I am starting to feel like there are a lot more child predators out there than we would like to believe. :-(

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM

why do I have this bad eeling that the group was a mass sex trap for kids? It sure seems to be heading that way.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:42 PM

Me too. It feels like a movie trailer. The main show is yet to come.

BTW, I notice no one has offered the reason for McGreadys (sp?) strange response as being maybe he’s a victim of Sandusky as a child.

He grew up in State College and played with Sandusky’s children when he was a child. Why was that first call to his dad? “Dad, I saw you know who doing you know what again!”

“OK son…don’t do anything rash…..tell JoePa….he’ll know how to handle this….”

BobMbx on November 14, 2011 at 11:49 PM

O/T
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More on Rep. Giffords: Says in TV interview she won’t return to Congress until she gets better – Roll Call
4 Min ago
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Gabrielle Giffords Won’t Return to Congress Until She’s ‘Better’
Nov 14 2011 at 11:30PM
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http://www.rollcall.com/news/gabrielle_giffords_wont_return_congress_until_better-210323-1.html

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 11:50 PM

I agree. I think this thing is a lot bigger than we know right now. Too many people already who knew and didn’t do or say anything about it.

Mirimichi on November 14, 2011 at 11:44 PM

If this is a sex trafficing ring… why would anyone say anything?

That hasn’t been confirmed yet, but I’m sure they’re digging.

Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 11:46 PM

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:46 PM

With so much starting to come out, I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to cover it up and people get more of the information out to the public.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:50 PM

BobMbx on November 14, 2011 at 11:49 PM

McQueary is the enigma at the moment.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:52 PM

With so much starting to come out, I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to cover it up and people get more of the information out to the public.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:50 PM

Upinak! Where on earth have you been? (Hopefully on some lovely Caribbean cruise or something!)

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:54 PM

why do I have this bad eeling that the group was a mass sex trap for kids? It sure seems to be heading that way.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:42 PM

upinak:You nailed it,posted this a few days ago,and hello Upper
North,from Northern Ontario!:)
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Penn State mess reveals an environment ripe for abuse
Friday, Nov. 11, 2011 10:39AM
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You don’t need to understand the moral cesspool that is U.S. college sports to comprehend the events this week in a part of the country that can never again be called Happy Valley.

You sure don’t need to be a Penn State alumnus or football fan. Nor do you need to understand the romance Americans attach to the iconic image of the legendary head coach standing on the sidelines of a college football game, all wizened and hounds-toothed or baseball capped. Oh great moulder of young men.(More…..)
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/football/penn-state-mess-reveals-an-environment-ripe-for-abuse/article2232840/

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 11:55 PM

With so much starting to come out, I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to cover it up and people get more of the information out to the public.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:50 PM

I’m firmly convinced that some on the grand jury were also big Penn State supporters. As far as I’m concerned Paterno and McQ were complicit in covering up a crime and should have been indicted too.

Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 11:55 PM

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM

Besides my time in the field, I grew up with many people that told me stories privately. It is more then we will ever know. Shame, fear-the statistics are not accurate. Double them at least.

I am blessed in that I never went through it but from others I know-I am lucky.

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM

Upinak! Where on earth have you been? (Hopefully on some lovely Caribbean cruise or something!)

cynccook on November 14, 2011 at 11:54 PM

hiding from the idiots… *waves*

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:57 PM

With so much starting to come out, I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to cover it up and people get more of the information out to the public.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:50 PM

upinak:H*llavu good/great point,the Judge thingy I posted is a good
example,anyone who was accused of boinking that many boys,
would be locked up,awaiting trial,in handcufs/leg-irons!:)

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 11:57 PM

hiding from the idiots… *waves*

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:57 PM

I need to follow your example :)

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:58 PM

hiding from the idiots… *waves*

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:57 PM

upinak:Believe it or not,I do miss your “SnarkyNess”!:)

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 11:59 PM

Hey Can

I’m firmly convinced that some on the grand jury were also big Penn State supporters. As far as I’m concerned Paterno and McQ were complicit in covering up a crime and should have been indicted too.

Knucklehead on November 14, 2011 at 11:55 PM

Hey Knucks, I think that there is something more to McQ.. not sure what it is, but I have a feeling the job he has was to keep him quiet.

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:59 PM

I need to follow your example :)

bazil9 on November 14, 2011 at 11:58 PM

bazil9:Lol:)

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Hey Can

upinak on November 14, 2011 at 11:59 PM

upinak:*Waves*:)

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:01 AM

O/T
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canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:03 AM

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM

I stayed away from here for a while but some of you (true blue) are still here and I come back. Good people here and you provide links better then the news links! Hugs Canada.

bazil9 on November 15, 2011 at 12:07 AM

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM

I stayed away from here for a while but some of you (true blue) are still here and I come back. Good people here and you provide links better then the news links! Hugs Canada.

bazil9 on November 15, 2011 at 12:07 AM

bazil9:Thank-you,hugs back at you,from da North,and sometimes one
needs R@R,from too much info OverLoad,and I’m here to talk,
info people might of missed,and especially,not to fight with
anyone,thats why,I like H/A!:)

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:14 AM

I’m not defending the magistrate who set the bail that way. I don’t get it at all. But the arraignment was on a Saturday and she was the magistrate on call for the State College area. It wasn’t like judge-shopping. You get who’s on call… and the arraignment has to be done.
I don’t see her hearing the preliminary hearing when that comes around. I think they’ll have to call in a magistrate from another county for that case.
And in Pa., the DA has the ability to challenge the bail set by going to Common Pleas Court and requesting a higher bail. That should have happened. Why didn’t it?

either orr on November 15, 2011 at 12:14 AM

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:03 AM

Great to see mission control is providing links..:)

Dire Straits on November 15, 2011 at 12:16 AM

Otay,its getting a bit late,

GoodNight Everyone————————–:)

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:16 AM

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Yeah, canopfor, it’s good to see you oot and aboot again, eh? Seriously.

either orr on November 15, 2011 at 12:16 AM

That should have happened. Why didn’t it?

either orr on November 15, 2011 at 12:14 AM

come on you are on the right track.

upinak on November 15, 2011 at 12:18 AM

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:03 AM
Great to see mission control is providing links..:)

Dire Straits on November 15, 2011 at 12:16 AM

Dire Straits:Shift Change,we miss again,MC,tee-hee,finally gots my
Info-Groove back again,er,I mean Mojoe!!:)

Nite Dire:)

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:18 AM

Nite Dire:)

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:18 AM

Enjoyed it Friend..:)

Dire Straits on November 15, 2011 at 12:20 AM

Here is some good news..:)

Dire Straits on November 15, 2011 at 12:20 AM

You realize that Jerry Sandusky is just a football coach. If he had directed Chinatown or sang Billie Jean, he’d not only be in the clear but celebrated by the Left as some sort of hero.

pdigaudio on November 15, 2011 at 12:21 AM

10 additional alleged victims? 50 total so far? We know the first victim known to the grand jury was 94 or 95. Jerry was stopped in 09.
50 kids in 15 years?
He started the charity in 1977.
It’s all just speculation at this point until someone comes forward to pull it all together. If this boy love thing is everywhere, I hope someone breaks it all down. It is sick and what has been done to these children is absolutely inexcuseable, should be prevented and should be stopped if currently occurring.
Gross.

ORconservative on November 15, 2011 at 12:21 AM

canopfor on November 15, 2011 at 12:14 AM

Yep- no matter how long I go- your still here. A regular. HA wouldn’t be the same with out you. Always a friendly name. Your like Norm on “Cheers” lol.

Take care.

bazil9 on November 15, 2011 at 12:22 AM

So does anyone know if the ‘rumors’ are true about all of the young victims being black and that is why so many ‘shut their eyes’?

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on November 15, 2011 at 12:23 AM

He needs to be on suicide watch…don’t let him kill himself. I want him never to escape what he did to these children.

gracie on November 14, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Suicide isn’t the only danger. There may be some pretty powerful people who would just as soon he didn’t talk much more for the record. Could it be the judge was aware of that and was just helping out?

a capella on November 15, 2011 at 12:28 AM

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