Cain’s campaign on Libya gaffe: He had four hours of sleep last night and was taken out of context

posted at 10:15 pm on November 14, 2011 by Allahpundit

Good enough?

“The video is being taken out of context,” said spokesman JD Gordon. “He was taking questions for about 30 to 40 minutes on four hours of sleep. He didn’t say anything wrong or in accurate; it just took him a while to recall the specifics of Libya.”

Gordon added, “It just took him a while to gain his bearings.”

The clip was posted unedited by the Journal-Sentinel so I don’t know what context he thinks was missing. Is there some context that would explain why he needed the editorial board to remind him whether Obama is pro- or anti-Qaddafi? Because I’m thinking pretty much every one of our readers could nail that detail even on three hours’ sleep.

According to Andrew Rafferty of NBC News, “When I asked Cain if today’s Libya gaffe builds on idea he doesn’t have in depth knowledge of foreign policy, he simply said, ’999′”. Not a joke.

I guess we’ll be okay as long as President Cain never gets a phone call at 3 a.m. The irony of today’s supergaffe is that I think it’ll do him much less harm among primary voters generally than the harassment charges have, even though his hair-raising vagueness on key foreign-policy details is much more certain than whether he did anything to his accusers. Only political junkies will see the Libya clip; thanks to Gloria Allred, everyone’s seen the Bialek presser. ABC’s out with a new poll tonight, in fact, showing Cain’s favorable rating now stands at 29/44, a steep drop from last month’s rating of 31/27. That’s a poll of adults, not of voters, but don’t forget that Rasmussen also found his favorables underwater at 37/51 in a poll of likely voters last week. Barring some revelation that Bialek and Allred set him up somehow, I don’t know how he turns that around. His biggest political asset has always been his charm; once that’s been neutralized to the point where people are about as favorable to him as they are to Gingrich, what reason is left to vote for him over Newt?

Actually, the most damning poll against him is our own, I think. As a commenter in the last thread said, if he’s lost the Cain fans at HA, there can’t be much room left for him among the base. And maybe he’s starting to realize it: According to his spokesman, the reason Cain was in Wisconsin today instead of on the trail in Iowa was because he wanted to go to the Packers game. Exit quotation: “We’re here to tailgate.”

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pupik on November 15, 2011 at 1:03 AM

Unfortunately I think you are right, I really don’t have a lot of faith anymore. We are eating our own and playing right into the hands of the left. The Democrats and their press wing are once again picking our candidate for us. Most on this thread have forgotten how the McCain thing went down.

gator70 on November 15, 2011 at 10:01 AM

Like it or not, those two are the two in the field that seem to read the news, understand Friedman, understand conservatism’s core philosophy, and attempt to make the case.

MeatHeadinCA on November 14, 2011 at 11:12 PM


Can we half-like this one? You’re right, though. The others have proven to be aneurysm-inducing agents.

The good thing about this gaffe? It didn’t happen during the debates — on live TV.

The bad? There’s no excuse.

Because I’m thinking pretty much every one of our readers could nail that detail…


Actually, Obama was for him before he was against… uhh, killed him.

Has any despot ever been so hugged?

Demosthenes on November 15, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Cain might not be the “not Romney” we are looking for, but we are still looking and not willing to settle for Slobama.

Extrafishy on November 15, 2011 at 10:24 AM

So, can we stop pretending Cain knew about China’s nuclear program?

YYZ on November 15, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Yeah well, I’m out.

ronsfi on November 15, 2011 at 10:27 AM

I am truly sorry that Cain has broken so many hearts but we are not electing a spouse, we are electing a person who will represent our interests and that usually means a politician. A slightly unctuous, glad handing politician. Someone we probably wouldn’t trust babysitting our kids.

Since we are conservatives I think that still leaves Gingrich although we might give Perry a second look, as well as Bachmann. Heck, we haven’t even given Santorum a first look. So let’s pick up our armor and do battle in the Hot Air comment sections on the field of public opinion.

Bill C on November 15, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Gingrich

pseudonominus on November 15, 2011 at 11:08 AM

Oh thats great…does he think that Presidents get their full eight hours? I can just see next November, hypothetically Cain is the nominee and Obama piggybacks off of the Hillary 3AM ad:

Its 3AM, who do you want answering the phone…and then they cut to this clip.

LevStrauss on November 15, 2011 at 11:18 AM

Cain’s campaign on Libya gaffe: He had four hours of sleep last night and was taken out of context

Talk about not being ready for that 3:00AM phone call.

meci on November 15, 2011 at 11:25 AM

Most on this thread have forgotten how the McCain thing went down.

gator70 on November 15, 2011 at 10:01 AM

The press can try to pick our candidates. In the end it is up to the voters to pick the candidate, it is their vote. If the voters pick a bad person, it is not the media’s fault. Right here you are saying that it is perfectly reasonable that the voters can be low information rejects. What we should be doing is shaming the low information voters into becoming high information voters.

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 11:26 AM

So, can we stop pretending Cain knew about China’s nuclear program?

YYZ on November 15, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Not quite yet. You have to still change the meaning of words , then go with your “gut” feeling

I’m as puzzled as anyone. What is wrong with Cain’s Libya answer again?
He had to correct himself? Took too long to answer? Too black to be President?

Cain’s candidacy is very important, even if he ends up not winning.
It has exposed every establishment GOP supporting non-sense propagandist in the blogosphere.

THAT is the issue withe Cain “missstatements” err “took too long to answer”-statements.

LeeSeneca on November 15, 2011 at 11:32 AM

Well, what can I say…should I feel sorry for him, glad all the crap’s coming out now rather than voted in (Mr. PPF’s 0.2) or that the immense patience I’ve had to pick another one-ever since Palin dropped off the race and see which is the lesser of all evils?

This instance is not GOP establishment, it’s his own brain and campaign at work here. Not strong core and firm positions on issues=lame candidate.

ProudPalinFan on November 15, 2011 at 11:41 AM

I much preffer Cain or Perry over obummer who doesnt know that Hawaii is part of the USA. Its not like he was born there or anything.

Wrapping up the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation conference in Hawaii on Sunday, President Obama held a presser at Ko Olina on the island of his birth in which he subtly ceded Hawaii to the continent of Asia.

When I meet with world leaders, what’s striking — whether it’s in Europe or here in Asia — the kinds of fundamental reforms and changes both on the revenue side and the public pension side that other countries are having to make are so much more significant than what we need to do in order to get our books in order.

http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Forget-57!-We-re-down-to-49-States

ColdWarrior57 on November 15, 2011 at 12:01 PM

ColdWarrior57 on November 15, 2011 at 12:01 PM

hahaha Classic! It’s totally surprising we have not seen that in the MSM…sarc

g2825m on November 15, 2011 at 12:06 PM

What is wrong with Cain’s Libya answer again?
He had to correct himself? Took too long to answer? Too black to be President?

LeeSeneca on November 15, 2011 at 11:32 AM

The freakshow racebaiter has arrived.

nottakingsides on November 15, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Again I have to post this as I am wondering as everyone is searching for the “new” girlfriend when the candidate that is best suited for the CURRENT situation is right in front of us.

What are people’s issues with Romney on his votes and stances since 2005 and when he began his run for the Presidency in 2007?
He has cut taxes in MA, closed loopholes and raised fees as Reagan did both, voted pro-life bills as GOV, voted and eased 2nd Amendment bills in MA See here: “Massachusetts oldest, largest and premier pro-second amendment/gun rights group, Gun owners` Action League (GOAL) stated:“The bill was the greatest victory for gun owners since the passage of the gun control laws in 1998 (Chapter 180 of the Acts of 1998). It was a reform bill totally supported by GOAL. Press and media stories around the country got it completely wrong when claimed the bill was an extension of the ‘assault weapon’ ban”, always been against illegal immigration, signed bill before it was in vogue on tuition breaks, for building the complete fence along the border, for DOMA, is for Cut, Cap, and Balance, only one from day one that has been vehemently pro expansion of the military and keeping GITMO open if not expanding it, for drilling in ANWR and investing in new technologies to get us off of foreign oil, develop energy technology like nuclear or liquefied coal, he did discuss AGW but also stated he would not spend trillions of dollars to try to fix something that MAY be man-made by 1%, and finally this is what HE proposed as a solution for MA massive health care issues (a STATE issue)
http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2006/01/mitts-fit

So let’s discuss what is liberal about these stances. Many need to realize they have been wrong on Romney’s stances.

I’ll check in tomorrow as it is late over here in AFG. Good nite all!

g2825m on November 15, 2011 at 12:10 PM

“Taken out of context”?????

Please!

No further discussion about Cain’s suitability for high office is necessary…

stacman on November 15, 2011 at 12:15 PM

ColdWarrior57 on November 15, 2011 at 12:01 PM


That Obama quote made my brain cry and, most likely bleed.

Once is fine — 57 States and all that — but the constant displaying and spouting of erroneous, basic American history and geography is troubling. He truly doesn’t know these things.

Obama, the idiot savant who exhibits extraordinary ability in Community Organizing?

Or… Obama the Manchurian Candidate?

Demosthenes on November 15, 2011 at 12:25 PM

You want to know what I think?

I don’t believe Mrs. Cain wants her husband to be President. I don’t think Herman wants it either. He just wanted some name recognition, make speeches, sell books, endorse, and that would have been it.

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM

I agree! I’ve said all along (and was dissed for it) that Cain is not prepared, and is simply not a businessman who can cure the nation’s ills. In all of his various positions he literally was inserted into the top spot, and has never, ever developed a business of his own. His ordinariness is clearly obvious, and we don’t need him because he does not have what it takes to be the boss.

Perhaps instead of tailgating before his interview he should’ve been boning up on foreign policy, or at least the fact that there is life beyond Godfather Pizza.

stacman on November 15, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Yes, Junior putting Hawaii into Asia, while waving at another group photo, is every bit as egregious an error as Perry’s brain fart or Cain’s Libya fart

BUT

I won’t want to be like Grand Wizard Sesquitard for the next 4 years, always trying to defend and deflect from my guy coming across as someone with the IQ of a Sesquitard. Enough is enough. Herman, it’s long time you figured out what you believe in, and Rick, it’s long time you showed up to the debates.

Next

MNHawk on November 15, 2011 at 12:39 PM

It really will be Romney huh?

And so America ends, not with a bang but a whimper.

angryed on November 14, 2011 at 10:35 PM

>sigh<

I'm runnin' outta people to support since Palin opted out.

DrAllecon on November 15, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Mark Block was trying to tell us something. The real meaning of the smoking man commercial is we are blowing smoke up your rear to sell books.

meci on November 15, 2011 at 1:28 PM

POTUS is not an entry level job… The current occupant PROVES THAT…

Khun Joe on November 15, 2011 at 1:29 PM

If you didn’t think Cain was toast after Libya, he is after this: Herman Cain Actually Asked 88 Year Old Henry Kissinger to Be His Secretary of State gawker.com/5859745/

andy85719 on November 15, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Not good enough. Cain really showed himself to be out of his depth – the 3 am phone call may come when you’re exhausted, sick, and cranky. No matter, you still have to have it together. Tough standard, but it’s a tougher job.

CatoRenasci on November 15, 2011 at 1:49 PM

For those of you ragging on cain for this, or Perry for his 58 seconds. I just wanted to remind you of what you have in office now and how little coverage this got at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc

Seriously? We are ragging on our own guys and forget about this? I’m no Cain supporter -yet- or Perry -yet- either, but c’mon people, anybody can have a brain freeze here and there, right? I mean, to me is far worse the fact that he supports collective bargaining for public employee unions than a stupid gaffe.

TitleofLiberty on November 15, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Get some sleep then! No excuse.

smfic on November 15, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Seriously? We are ragging on our own guys and forget about this? I’m no Cain supporter -yet- or Perry -yet- either, but c’mon people, anybody can have a brain freeze here and there, right? I mean, to me is far worse the fact that he supports collective bargaining for public employee unions than a stupid gaffe.

TitleofLiberty on November 15, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Um, few people are ragging on Perry, Cain is getting a heavy dose right now, but then again, that is because we want to avoid the mistakes of the democrats. At least I do.

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Sorry, folks. Libya, public employee unions, and abortion are not some obscure ambush questions. The first two headlined the news for weeks and weeks, Cain supposedly has been pro-life for decades.

Yet he isn’t sure what Obama’s policy was in Libya, isn’t sure about the role of public employee unions or that federal employees can’t strike or collectively bargain, and can’t even articulate his own position on abortion without sounding like he is “pro-choice” instead.

The man is just not Presidential material, people. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Adjoran on November 15, 2011 at 3:29 PM

TitleofLiberty on November 15, 2011 at 2:49 PM

If it were one time, or even every now and then, it could be overlooked. But it isn’t. Cain screws up something seriously in ever single sit-down interview.

He’s fine with short-answer sound-byte responses in the debates, for the most part, but messes up in every interview.

Be honest with yourself.

Adjoran on November 15, 2011 at 3:31 PM

TitleofLiberty on November 15, 2011 at 2:49 PM

No SH*T over. I wish that for every “gaffe” one of them make that we had a list of over obummer gaffes’. That would put them in context. Hell Obama had the gaffe of not knowing his own daughters name.

ColdWarrior57 on November 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM

I did a little research.
http://usconservatives.about.com/od/conservativesobama/tp/ObamaGaffes.htm
and lets not forget the grand obama “InterContinental Rail Road”.

ColdWarrior57 on November 15, 2011 at 4:09 PM

I figured it out… The Question was worded differently but it was like, Do you agree with the Obama doctrine in Libya….the answer would cause anyone to pause as there are many and not defined. Prove a navigate. It is also the doctrine that had the US on the same side as ALQ and then gave Libya to ALQ..

tjexcite on November 15, 2011 at 4:18 PM

The Question was worded differently but it was like, Do you agree with the Obama doctrine in Libya….the answer would cause anyone to pause as there are many and not defined.
tjexcite on November 15, 2011 at 4:18 PM

I think it’s a reasonable question to ask “which policy?” to a non-specific question.

whatcat on November 15, 2011 at 4:54 PM

You know, everyone here was saying I was not going to be happy until I took Cain down. I realize now they might be right. Cain may have been up late at night reading my posts, unable to sleep because of the vicious vitriol I spewed about him. Somehow though, I do not feel any happier, I guess it was all just empty calories. Either that, or I had a different goal in my statements.

astonerii on November 15, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Cain is now denying he was tired.

Shortly after the video of the interview went online on Monday, Cain’s campaign told reporters that the candidate was short on sleep and needed a few moments to collect his thoughts. But Cain on Tuesday said fatigue had not been to blame for his answer.

“The Libya comment was a pause to gather my thoughts. I’m not going to back down from that. People want to make a big deal out of that,” he said.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68439.html#ixzz1dpKHAttC

But don’t worry, he solved the problem:

Guess this is the way to make sure no one catches his gaffes:

Herman Cain says no cameras in the room for his interview with the Union Leader editorial board scheduled for this Thursday

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68439_Page2.html

TriciaNC on November 15, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Cain is OBVIOUSLY making a distinction between supporting Gaddafi being out of power and the way Obaama and NATO went about it

It was no flub, he was being specific.

Try as the establishment Republicans and Democrats might to twist and turn what was said and wasnt said, the American people are TUNED INTO DETAILS. We are on to you. We got your number.

All the phony ” independent polls” , all the deflated facts, conflated description, pointless accusations and mindless logic will not work this time , or hopefully ever again.

I suggest Romney and his Romnettes change the song and dance routine to something far more honest and far far more believable

LeeSeneca on November 16, 2011 at 12:10 AM

Most Americans abhor abortions but know that ROE V WADE is not in our power to overturn, We are resigned to make sure abortions are not supplied with federal money…….thats what Cain was getting at.

Cain’s public union position is the SAME AS THE WISCONSIN GOV who says he is NOT UNION BUSTNG nor taking away ALL bargaining rights.

And as we all know by the ACTUAL WORDS SAID, Cain did not say China didn’t have nukes nor that he “feared” they some day might.

Sure Cain was no doubt tired buthe did not flub the libya question , He was making a specific disticntion between goal and actions and results.

There is no stopping the Cain train, get on board or be left behind
The usual poltical propaganda trolley doesn’t move fast enough anymore.

LeeSeneca on November 16, 2011 at 12:18 AM

Great read on why “THEY” are agains Cain.
http://floppingaces.net/2011/11/15/a-trillion-dollar-hit-job-who-really-wins-from-the-herman-cain-scandal-reader-post/
I couldn’t agree more.
Follow the MONEY.

ColdWarrior57 on November 16, 2011 at 4:57 PM

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