Cain’s campaign on Libya gaffe: He had four hours of sleep last night and was taken out of context

posted at 10:15 pm on November 14, 2011 by Allahpundit

Good enough?

“The video is being taken out of context,” said spokesman JD Gordon. “He was taking questions for about 30 to 40 minutes on four hours of sleep. He didn’t say anything wrong or in accurate; it just took him a while to recall the specifics of Libya.”

Gordon added, “It just took him a while to gain his bearings.”

The clip was posted unedited by the Journal-Sentinel so I don’t know what context he thinks was missing. Is there some context that would explain why he needed the editorial board to remind him whether Obama is pro- or anti-Qaddafi? Because I’m thinking pretty much every one of our readers could nail that detail even on three hours’ sleep.

According to Andrew Rafferty of NBC News, “When I asked Cain if today’s Libya gaffe builds on idea he doesn’t have in depth knowledge of foreign policy, he simply said, ’999′”. Not a joke.

I guess we’ll be okay as long as President Cain never gets a phone call at 3 a.m. The irony of today’s supergaffe is that I think it’ll do him much less harm among primary voters generally than the harassment charges have, even though his hair-raising vagueness on key foreign-policy details is much more certain than whether he did anything to his accusers. Only political junkies will see the Libya clip; thanks to Gloria Allred, everyone’s seen the Bialek presser. ABC’s out with a new poll tonight, in fact, showing Cain’s favorable rating now stands at 29/44, a steep drop from last month’s rating of 31/27. That’s a poll of adults, not of voters, but don’t forget that Rasmussen also found his favorables underwater at 37/51 in a poll of likely voters last week. Barring some revelation that Bialek and Allred set him up somehow, I don’t know how he turns that around. His biggest political asset has always been his charm; once that’s been neutralized to the point where people are about as favorable to him as they are to Gingrich, what reason is left to vote for him over Newt?

Actually, the most damning poll against him is our own, I think. As a commenter in the last thread said, if he’s lost the Cain fans at HA, there can’t be much room left for him among the base. And maybe he’s starting to realize it: According to his spokesman, the reason Cain was in Wisconsin today instead of on the trail in Iowa was because he wanted to go to the Packers game. Exit quotation: “We’re here to tailgate.”

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He is the King of Excuses.

Just like Obama.

And like Newt who blamed his cheating on his love of country.

And nothing like Perry, who owned his brain-freeze with not one murmur of excuse.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:17 PM

Sorry, but the body of evidence has increased to the undeniable stage. He didn’t do well in Saturday’s debate, either, and that wasn’t the first time, there as the “right of return” issue.

FloatingRock on November 14, 2011 at 10:17 PM

3AM and there is a pause on the other side of the phone.

Electrongod on November 14, 2011 at 10:19 PM

*Double facepalm*

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:20 PM

I’ve got news for Cain. Being president is a lot harder than sitting with the Journal-Sentinel editorial board, and sometimes the president has to perform with only four hours of sleep.

Mark1971 on November 14, 2011 at 10:20 PM

“Mr. President….NORAD reports missiles are inbound, impacting in 12 minutes…what are your orders?”

“Uh…..too many things swirling around in my head…somebody call 999″

Pizza and waiters…..he’s good at that.

BobMbx on November 14, 2011 at 10:20 PM

“The video is being taken out of context,” said spokesman JD Gordon. “He was taking questions for about 30 to 40 minutes on four hours of sleep. He didn’t say anything wrong or in accurate; it just took him a while to recall the specifics of Libya.”

Gordon added, “It just took him a while to gain his bearings.”

Because that’s what you want in a president. A guy who needs his beauty sleep or he can’t even remember basic aspects of American policy.

What was his excuse on terrorists-for-soldiers? Or abortion? Or public employee unions? Or right of return?

Did he fail to get sufficient beauty sleep then, too?

amerpundit on November 14, 2011 at 10:20 PM

I was a big Cain supporter, but he’s done. Accusations of inappropriateness aside, he doesn’t know what the heck he’s talking about. Sorry fella, you can’t JUST be a good business man.

Heard his interview with Michael Savage, when asked if there were any departments he would eliminate he said he’d do across the board cuts, and look at all the programs to see if the costs outweigh the benefits. It’s not an exercise in money-saving you jackass, it’s about Constitutionality.

Living4Him5534 on November 14, 2011 at 10:21 PM

3AM and there is a pause on the other side of the phone.

Electrongod on November 14, 2011 at 10:19 PM

yep, leadership Cain-style…’oups, can’t think straight, took some sleeping pills last night’…

jimver on November 14, 2011 at 10:21 PM

I’m sure the Chinese, the Russians, the

OhioCoastie on November 14, 2011 at 10:21 PM

“The video is being taken out of context,” said spokesman JD Gordon. “He was taking questions for about 30 to 40 minutes on four hours of sleep. He didn’t say anything wrong or in accurate; it just took him a while to recall the specifics of Libya.”

Perry tried the ‘I was shweepy’ excuse and it didn’t fly for him and it won’t fly for Cain.

According to Andrew Rafferty of NBC News, “When I asked Cain if today’s Libya gaffe builds on idea he doesn’t have in depth knowledge of foreign policy, he simply said, ’999′”. Not a joke.

The ignorance Cain is displaying isn’t even close to as cute as he seems to think. He has descended to the Beavis and Butthead level.

sharrukin on November 14, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Fore!!! hours of sleep.
Now that’s performance.

Electrongod on November 14, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Where’s the contemplation and deliberation. You don’t just say stuff. That’s for bull sessions.

Paul-Cincy on November 14, 2011 at 10:22 PM

I like Herman Cain – I wanted to support him, but frankly, he’s ignorant of things that I, a lowly blog-reader with a full-time job, am quite familiar with.

No, I’d never run for prez. But what has Mr. Cain been paying attention to for the past ten years, if not foreign and domestic politics??

disa on November 14, 2011 at 10:23 PM

I’m sure the Chinese, the Russians, the Iranians, assorted jihadists, and random international jackwagons will throttle back their shenanigans to accomodate President Cain’s need for a little nappy poo.

OhioCoastie on November 14, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Barring some revelation that Bialek and Allred set him up somehow, I don’t know how he turns that around.

Obama is underwater on several issues and we’re still worried about him gettin reelected? Really?

ted c on November 14, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Compare this:

“I’m glad I had my boots on tonight,” Perry said. “I stepped in it out there.”

to this:

“The video is being taken out of context,” said spokesman JD Gordon. “He was taking questions for about 30 to 40 minutes on four hours of sleep. He didn’t say anything wrong or in accurate; it just took him a while to recall the specifics of Libya.”

Gordon added, “It just took him a while to gain his bearings.”

Enough said.

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Cains a good guy, only wanted to sell some books, was thrust into the lead and not expecting it or ready for it. The selling book thing will at least benefit from this Presidential run, so theres that.

nswider on November 14, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Thank God we vetted Obama well enough to handle the responsibility.

Electrongod on November 14, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Black men do not make great presidents.
What?

carbon_footprint on November 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM

And nothing like Perry, who owned his brain-freeze with not one murmur of excuse.

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:17 PM

Good for Perry. Neither is going to be nominated, though.

KingGold on November 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Listening to Mrs. Cain in the Greta van Susteren interview with her…

She’s an approachable, loquacious person but when asked specifically later in the interview by van Susteren if she thought “(Herman, her husband) would make a good President…”

…she had one of those Herman-Cain long pauses and didn’t respond well, finally saying, rather blandly, “yeah, well, I thiiink he would, yeah, I thiiink…” as if she was trying to decide which slice of cake to eat, that one or that one or maybe that one over there or maybe the pie or maybe that one…

Not a confidence-builder there.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM

4 Hours sleep is used as an excuse? For heaven’s sake, Perry had back surgery! The guy is visibly in pain when he walks.

He could have attributed his debate flubs to his medication and pain – and I am pretty sure that will not be far from the truth – but he didn’t.

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:26 PM

The selling book thing will at least benefit from this Presidential run, so theres that.

nswider on November 14, 2011 at 10:24 PM

If it’s a Children’s book….he is off my Christmas list.

Electrongod on November 14, 2011 at 10:26 PM

I just praise God that Mitt Huntsman is still in the race.

carbon_footprint on November 14, 2011 at 10:26 PM

So is Cain going to do a top ten list on Letterman?

Mark1971 on November 14, 2011 at 10:26 PM

If he’s lost Cain fans at HA, they’ll still be plenty at Free Republic.

xkaydet65 on November 14, 2011 at 10:26 PM

We Came, We Saw, He Tailgated.

Ronnie on November 14, 2011 at 10:27 PM

According to his spokesman, the reason Cain was in Wisconsin today instead of on the trail in Iowa was because he wanted to go to the Packers game. Exit quotation: “We’re here to tailgate.”

Okay Cain, why don’t you do us all a favor and just drop out and take, Bachmann, RonPaul, Crist, and Santorum with you.

Lance Murdock on November 14, 2011 at 10:27 PM

What?

carbon_footprint on November 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM

There is a vacant room at the re-education camp that is in the same wing as mind.
Do you like card games?
Maybe chess?

Electrongod on November 14, 2011 at 10:28 PM

“The video is being taken out of context,” said spokesman JD Gordon. “He was taking questions for about 30 to 40 minutes on four hours of sleep. He didn’t say anything wrong or in accurate; it just took him a while to recall the specifics of Libya.”

Gordon added, “It just took him a while to gain his bearings.”

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:23 PM

The interview was pre-scheduled. That means, Cain knew about what was planned for that day and hour ahead of time. He should have been prepared to respond to questions and to interact well with the interviewer. He wasn’t and didn’t.

It just points out lack of preparation, of “unreadiness”.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Mrs. Cain is coming off very charming on Greta.

SouthernGent on November 14, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Not a confidence-builder there.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM

You want to know what I think?

I don’t believe Mrs. Cain wants her husband to be President. I don’t think Herman wants it either. He just wanted some name recognition, make speeches, sell books, endorse, and that would have been it.

The SH scandals have upset Cain’s campaign and they don’t have a clue how to recover. I am suggesting he call Perry to help him out. No, I am serious. Perry is a gentleman. He will have his men advise Cain on how to stop the drip-drip.

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM

If he’s lost Cain fans at HA, they’ll still be plenty at Free Republic.

xkaydet65 on November 14, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Aren’t they still trying to resurrect a Palin run over there? Or otherwise traumatized?

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Mrs. Cain is coming off very charming on Greta.

SouthernGent on November 14, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Yes, very charming, very approachable, all except when she was asked if she thought Herman would make a good President.

She really fell down there on that (important) question.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 10:30 PM

Hasn’t completely lost some of us and just maybe he NEEDS a night of tailgating to clear his mind and actually soak in some foreign policy stuff.

michaelo on November 14, 2011 at 10:30 PM

Not a confidence-builder there.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM

You want to know what I think?

I don’t believe Mrs. Cain wants her husband to be President. I don’t think Herman wants it either. He just wanted some name recognition, make speeches, sell books, endorse, and that would have been it.

The SH scandals have upset Cain’s campaign and they don’t have a clue how to recover…

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM

I agree with ya’.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 10:31 PM

So is Cain going to do a top ten list on Letterman?

Mark1971 on November 14, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Infomercial I would guess.
George Foreman…
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.
999
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.
Boo!

Electrongod on November 14, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Mrs. Cain is coming off very charming on Greta.

SouthernGent on November 14, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Yes she is, very. Let’s hope he isn’t lying because it would be disgusting to parade this nice woman out there to look like a fool later.

Couple things she said caught my ear. She said Cain didn’t tell her about this and she heard it when the news broke. That’s a bit odd.

She also said that Cain didn’t talk to her about Bialek after she did that press conference. Cain specifically said he DID talk her right after they both watched it.

Again, may be nothing there but I hope there isn’t.

AYNBLAND on November 14, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Cain, his wife and daughters all seem to be really, really nice people. I just don’t think he’s a President.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 10:33 PM

I like Herman Cain – I wanted to support him, but frankly, he’s ignorant of things that I, a lowly blog-reader with a full-time job, am quite familiar with.

disa on November 14, 2011 at 10:23 PM

There’s more thought behind most of the posts here than a lot of what comes out of Cain’s mouth. We’ve studied stuff, discussed it with others … listened to current events with that informed ear, with opinions formed over years. Too often, Cain just says stuff. Right of return. Electrified fence. You can’t be in his position and just come out and form opinions on the fly and give them as if they’re your studied positions.

Paul-Cincy on November 14, 2011 at 10:34 PM

It really will be Romney huh?

And so America ends, not with a bang but a whimper.

angryed on November 14, 2011 at 10:35 PM

The interview was pre-scheduled. That means, Cain knew about what was planned for that day and hour ahead of time. He should have been prepared to respond to questions and to interact well with the interviewer. He wasn’t and didn’t.

It just points out lack of preparation, of “unreadiness”.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 10:28 PM

I wouldn’t need preparation to get that question right. The guy is just incompetent.

Ronnie on November 14, 2011 at 10:35 PM

I am suggesting he call Perry to help him out.
TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Indeed, bring in the Sultan Of Oooops for tips.

whatcat on November 14, 2011 at 10:35 PM

I caught the video snippet at 6:30 tonight on CBS,with Pelly
yapping on about it!

Just the “soundbited” piece of it,leaves me a tad,gobsmacked!

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 10:35 PM

It really will be Romney huh?

And so America ends, not with a bang but a whimper.

angryed on November 14, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Romney is easily manipulated. He wouldn’t be a disaster with a conservative congress.

Ronnie on November 14, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Cain, his wife and daughters all seem to be really, really nice people. I just don’t think he’s a President.

Lourdes on November 14, 2011 at 10:33 PM

Did his wife say something to the effect of being proud for the first time…?
If not….He’s finished.
/

Electrongod on November 14, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Good for Perry. Neither is going to be nominated, though.

KingGold on November 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Coming from a poster who was sure Cain was “the one”, I’m not taking your word for it, if you don’t mind ;)

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:37 PM

It really will be Romney huh?

And so America ends, not with a bang but a whimper.

angryed on November 14, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Yes, it will probably be Romney.

Which will make it our moral imperative not to futz up the Senate races. This isn’t the time for True Conservative flimflammery, it’s the time to get every last Democrat out of Washington.

Because if Romney wins but we blow the Senate, expect a rehash of 2006-2008, which I’m sure everyone remembers fondly.

KingGold on November 14, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Hey Cainics, when you’ve lost TheRightScoop, you need to reevaluate your bearings and call it day.

Lance Murdock on November 14, 2011 at 10:38 PM

Karol Cain doesn’t look a day over 30. Wow.

SouthernGent on November 14, 2011 at 10:39 PM

I am suggesting he call Perry to help him out.
TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM

TheRightMan:Perry is tooooooooo busy,tear’n down DC!(sarc)
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@PoliticalTicker
Perry to outline plan to ‘dismantle’ Washington – http://t.co/9w57ntdW
59 Min.ago
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http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Cain’s been finished for at least 2 weeks. Anyone that looked at Cain’s candidacy objectively knew his lack of experience would sink him at some point. I am surprised he lasted this long.

huckleberryfriend on November 14, 2011 at 10:40 PM

“Being president is a lot harder than sitting with the Journal-Sentinel editorial board, and sometimes the president has to perform with only four hours of sleep.

Mark1971 on November 14, 2011 at 10:20 PM”

Actually that is no quite true, most of the time Mr. Obama sits on a couch in his sweats watching ESPN on the big screen while Valerie Jarett takes notes. Staffers come in an yap at him and he nods to acknowledge them. Then you tell a whole bunch a lies, funnel money to your supporters and tell the American people the opposition is evil. Sounds pretty easy to me! Hey go kill that guy, yep that took real effort. Obama reached out there and killed Osama without batting an eye!

Sorry, being president isn’t nearly as hard as it used to be when we had real enemies capable of ending the world. Heck, you can vacation, play golf, party like a rockstar and fundraise on the taxpayers dime! Tell me I am wrong.

No excuses for Cain though, if he was on 4 hours sleep and groggy, you cancel the interview and reschedule. His staff continues to fail him and if he can’t see this, then his numbers will continue to fall. Blockhead and the crew are not up to the task, use some of that money to bring in some new blood.

Africanus on November 14, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Okay Cain, why don’t you do us all a favor and just drop out and take, Bachmann, RonPaul, Crist, and Santorum with you.

Lance Murdock on November 14, 2011 at 10:27 PM

From your keyboard to God’s ears. Erick Erickson had quite the takedown of Santorum and Bachmann for their dangerous Pakistan stance, btw:

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/11/14/the-bachmann-santorum-rule-we-can-be-extorted/

And “lol” at your calling Jim Hunstman “Crist” :)

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Coming from a poster who was sure Cain was “the one”, I’m not taking your word for it, if you don’t mind ;)

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:37 PM

I said no such thing. Ever. I did repeatedly say that Cain was better than Perry, a contention I maintain.

And Cain indeed had the chance that Perry did not have – until today. After this, I sincerely hope nobody ever hires Mark Block again, because Directive One in political campaigns should pretty much always be, “don’t let your guy make a fool of himself.” (By this metric, however, Perry should be on his fourth campaign manager.)

KingGold on November 14, 2011 at 10:42 PM

I guess we’ll be okay as long as President Cain never gets a phone call at 3 a.m.

So with Cain it’s the 3 a.m. phone call problem, and with Perry it’s the need to carry a telemprompter around everywhere.

Not like either of those are unpresidential in the Age of Obama.

malclave on November 14, 2011 at 10:42 PM

Here’s a suggestion to team Cain. Don’t do in-depth interviews after an exhausting 2 days (or more).

There’s only so much flubbing I can find endearing and this is way past the threshold.

MeatHeadinCA on November 14, 2011 at 10:43 PM

@nytimes
Gloria Cain Defends Husband in Fox News Interview http://t.co/6CTlM2xp
18 Min.ago
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@NewsHub
Watch the Journal Sentinel’s full interview with @THEHermanCain, including his comments on Libya: http://t.co/GNAkKMad
12 Min.ago
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http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 10:43 PM

And “lol” at your calling Jim Hunstman “Crist” :)

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:41 PM

I wish people would stop goofing on Huntsfield’s name.

Paul-Cincy on November 14, 2011 at 10:43 PM

So with Cain it’s the 3 a.m. phone call problem, and with Perry it’s the need to carry a telemprompter around everywhere.

Not like either of those are unpresidential in the Age of Obama.

malclave on November 14, 2011 at 10:42 PM

Perry doesn’t have simply a teleprompter problem. He has the same problem Cain just showed us he has. He doesn’t know much more than what his advisers are telling him.

MeatHeadinCA on November 14, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Some of his answers to questions is disturbing for several reasons:
1) These are top news stories, not some of those foreign policy “gotcha’s” they tried with W like “Who is the president of upper Slobovia and why are we not aligned with the horrors of his agrarian reform policy for the production of yellow lentils?” If Cain didn’t have the background 6 weeks ago, he should have had advisors and staff coaching him 24/7 to get up to speed.
2) Some of these answers shouldn’t require prep, they should be core conservative principles. Federal workers should be part of collective bargaining? Please, that’s core conservative principles, shouldn’t require consideration, and should be a quick answer, “Nope, not a good idea, next”

I really wanted him to be the guy — not a Republican elite, conservative, well-spoken and good business experience. Alas, he is not ready for the job.

Unfortunately, that leaves Newt and maybe Perry as the only conservative choices at this point. I’m not sure I trust either one of them. Sorry, but it is a real shame Palin chose not to run, she has been vetted and already demonized and has been consistent in articulating core conservative values.

AZfederalist on November 14, 2011 at 10:44 PM

There’s only so much flubbing I can find endearing and this is way past the threshold.

MeatHeadinCA on November 14, 2011 at 10:43 PM

MeatHeadinCA:Yup,its getting near my Saturation Point!!:)

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 10:45 PM

O/T: Pam Bondi (hot!) is on Greta….she’s the attorney general for Florida.

SouthernGent on November 14, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Romney is easily manipulated. He wouldn’t be a disaster with a conservative congress.

Ronnie on November 14, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Oh my gracious! JUST what I’m looking for in a leader. Anbody’s dog who’ll walk him.

katy the mean old lady on November 14, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Wow. That’s funny, cause I never read RedState.

Lance Murdock on November 14, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Yeah, well, he better know where China is.

That is all.

SlaveDog on November 14, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Paul-Cincy on November 14, 2011 at 10:34 PM

ITA with you, but it does make me lol when I think back to when I was told that his “jokes” and ignorance were all part of his “outsider charm”… lol!

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Erick Erickson had quite the takedown of Santorum and Bachmann for their dangerous Pakistan stance

LOL, Ericson? Did he “takedown” Slaptick Rick for his even more dangerous Israel stance?

whatcat on November 14, 2011 at 10:49 PM

His biggest political asset has always been his charm; once that’s been neutralized to the point where people are about as favorable to him as they are to Gingrich, what reason is left to vote for him over Newt?

9-9-9.

Not a joke.

JohnGalt23 on November 14, 2011 at 10:49 PM

Sorry, but it is a real shame Palin chose not to run, she has been vetted and already demonized and has been consistent in articulating core conservative values.

AZfederalist on November 14, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Sarah had this amazing track record of being right on the issues, and great at predicting the future. I don’t know when she ever got it wrong. And she predicted this was going to be a very unusual GOP primary season. And it’s been crazy so far. I have to respect her decision not to run, because, again, her judgment has been so good so far. So I have to trust her in this too. She said she knows she made the right decision.

Paul-Cincy on November 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM

This is getting ridiculous. Seriously what is Cain’s crime? His appeal to conservatives? That he’s in the top tier and some people like Allahpundit feel he shouldn’t be? Well it’s not your call AP and thank God! The last thing we need is an athiest telling us who should be our president!

This is a long campaign folks! People are always quick to say this candidate is done because of this or that. Gingrich was said to be dead in the summer and lo and behold, he’s at the top of polls! I mean as long as Romney is still in the race, the race is going to be fluid.

There is still time. Romney is the most liberal Establishment candidate since Nelson Rockefeller. He’s the weakest Establishment candidate in memory. It’s Romney’s weakness that is enabling all this jockeying to begin with. Cain has time and is learning as he goes, but his values and convictions are sound. I won’t count someone out catching all the flak he’s catching. And certainly I won’t count out someone, despite all the flak, leading in the polls in Iowa.

If Cain wins in Iowa, given his strength in the South, he puts himself in a very strong position. The same for Gingrich and Perry. Iowa will tell the tale. The conservative candidate that wins there will likely carry the conservative mantle against Romney. Cain is still in contention for that distinction.

milemarker2020 on November 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Cain seems to think that Perry is the anti-Christ, no way would he ask for Perry’s help on anything. And Perry shouldn’t give it. He may be a Boy Scout and honest to his detriment (anybody else would’ve gone with EPA that night and not said “No, sir, that wasn’t it”), but he wouldn’t do that, imo.

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Not like either of those are unpresidential in the Age of Obama.
malclave on November 14, 2011 at 10:42 PM

I wouldn’t say “un-presidential” as much as I would “unelectable”.

whatcat on November 14, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Oh man, 999, really? Does he think the people are idiots? Libya answer + public union collective bargaining + Newt/Cain debate’s “You go first, Newt” (twice) is enough. He’s not ready. If he was serious about this, he’d be studying foreign policy and AT LEAST keeping up with current events. Anyone at HotAir could have answered the Libya or collective bargaining question better than he did. We deserve better. We deserve someone that can beat Obama that is conservative.

kerrhome on November 14, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Aslans Girl

To add, Cain lost me months ago with his ‘Right of Return’ gaffe. When I saw that on Fox News Sunday, I knew he was a flake. People tend to forget that the President’s original power are more alined with foreign policy, not domestic stuff. When it comes to domestic policy he has to work with Congress.

This is why we need someone who wants to understand the importance of American power and just some cheap one-liners.

Lance Murdock on November 14, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Yes, it will probably be Romney.

Which will make it our moral imperative not to futz up the Senate races. This isn’t the time for True Conservative flimflammery, it’s the time to get every last Democrat out of Washington.

Because if Romney wins but we blow the Senate, expect a rehash of 2006-2008, which I’m sure everyone remembers fondly.

KingGold on November 14, 2011 at 10:37 PM

I vividly recall accusing you of being a Romneybot, a charge you vehemently denied.

Seems I was right.

Conservatives, wake up! Don’t you all find it a bit fishy that the most vociferous supporters of Cain have also been the Romneybots? Cain served his purpose. Unfortunately, it couldn’t carry him to Iowa and SC to split the conservative vote – at least I hope not.

Now the Romneybots masquerading as Cainiacs are now starting the cry of “There is no one left to support but Romney…”

Are you sure about that? The one-term loser Governor of a liberal state (Romney) who handed over to a Democrat after taking the reins from a Republican is preferable to a three-term successful sitting conservative Governor (Perry) who has led his state to be the most prosperous in the nation?

Sure… (rolls eyes)…

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:52 PM

canopfor on November 14, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Woohoo! Thanks, canopfor!

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:52 PM

What is out of context is the other 35 minutes of the interview he had instant recall and knew all topics but this one moment he has was a little slow…

Still better than SCFoaMF well that bar is so low that even a potted plant is better.

tjexcite on November 14, 2011 at 10:53 PM

I’ve got news for Cain. Being president is a lot harder than sitting with the Journal-Sentinel editorial board, and sometimes the president has to perform with only four hours of sleep.

Mark1971 on November 14, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Only 4 hours of sleep? If an international crisis hits, he could be forced to go days without sleep.

Sorry, but I was offended when Perry’s staff tried to explain away his lousy debating by claiming he was tired. So I’m not cutting Cain any slack when he falls back on the same BS excuse. This is ridiculous. The man has been in the race since late spring/early summer. It’s freaking mid-November for God’s sake. If he was at all remotely serious about this, he would’ve at least attempted to learn the basics.

I can only conclude 2 things(I’m giving Cain the benefit of the doubt and assuming he’s not an idiot): 1) He really wasn’t ever in it to win it and wanted to sell books and raise his national profile for the lucrative lecture circuit before his poll numbers surprisingly surged or 2) he’s arrogant enough to believe he can get by on very little experience, minimal knowledge of the issues, his uniqueness as a black Presidential candidate, and a whole lot of personal charm. If it’s the former, he needs to stop wasting our time. If it’s the latter, we already have someone in the White House fitting that description and we’re doing everything we can to replace him with something different.

Long story less long, I’m behind ya all the way Newt. Now don’t screw this up!

Doughboy on November 14, 2011 at 10:53 PM

This is getting ridiculous. Seriously what is Cain’s crime?

milemarker2020 on November 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM

His “crime” is that he’s been campaigning for months and doesn’t seem to be able to answer simple questions on the issues of the day. This is very serious business for somebody hoping to be president.

Nobody expects Cain to be as detailed or knowledgeable as Newt Gingrich on policy, but they damn sure expect him to know as much as the average talk-radio listener. He can’t bluff his way through the presidency. He’s had plenty of time to learn about Libya; that war officially ended a month ago. He’s learned nothing about it.

I know, I know. “Obama screws up a lot too.” Nobody cares.

KingGold on November 14, 2011 at 10:54 PM

I wish people would stop goofing on Huntsfield’s name.

Paul-Cincy on November 14, 2011 at 10:43 PM

You almost had me there! LOL :)

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:54 PM

BTW this has to rank as the most snarkiest post Allapundit has posted to date! There is something about Cain that rankles Allapundit like nothing Palin could ever do. Is it the gospel singing? Is it the associate pastor deal with Cain? I just wonder, because this goes beyond just alleged incompetence.

milemarker2020 on November 14, 2011 at 10:55 PM

O/T: Pam Bondi (hot!) is on Greta….she’s the attorney general for Florida.

SouthernGent on November 14, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Be careful. I could have her file a SH case against you and poof! There goes your dream of becoming President in 2060.

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:55 PM

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Yes of course, a true vast Romney wing conspiracy. You’ve done it, you’ve cracked the code! Sigh.

nswider on November 14, 2011 at 10:56 PM

Only four hours of sleep, eh?

Say, Herm… you were up pretty late last night, I guess. Or is it just your habit to awake at 5AM?

What time is last call, again?

JohnGalt23 on November 14, 2011 at 10:56 PM

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:52 PM

How did you get from “it will probably be Romney” to “I want it to be Romney”? I’m just statin’ facts. Romney’s most likely going to win. Cain was the last person who might have been electable and hadn’t alienated the base. Now, his electability argument is destroyed. So, it’s going to be Romney.

Supporting Perry in the vain notion that he’ll somehow overcome being despised by both the base and the establishment and pull out a victory seems a waste of time.

KingGold on November 14, 2011 at 10:57 PM

whatcat on November 14, 2011 at 10:49 PM

Only deranged Perry-haters here think Perry has a “dangerous Israel” stance, ROFLOL! Nice try.

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 10:57 PM

I just wonder, because this goes beyond just alleged incompetence.

milemarker2020 on November 14, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Did you see the videotape?????

JohnGalt23 on November 14, 2011 at 10:58 PM

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Yes of course, a true vast Romney wing conspiracy. You’ve done it, you’ve cracked the code! Sigh.

nswider on November 14, 2011 at 10:56 PM

No need to thank me. It was a pleasure cracking the code. :)

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:59 PM

This was a pitiful response, about a pitiful performance,from a pitiful campaign run pitifully.

portlandon on November 14, 2011 at 11:00 PM

milemarker2020 on November 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM

Don’t take this the wrong way, but you have embraced the liberal establishments mantra that Reagan was a loveable dunce. You think that since Cain cannot espouse anything beyond 30 word sound bites that makes him ‘authentic.’ You know what, you are full of crap. Reagan was not only brilliant, but you can say he was amateur intellectual. He understood the real meaning of conservationism. This is what the conservative movement needs, people who can express policy in a complex but, straight forward manner and not some flash in the pan sideshow. And its people like yourself who are embracing superficial conservationism, not true classical liberalism.

Lance Murdock on November 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM

You want to know what I think?

TheRightMan on November 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Not just “no.” “HELL NO!”

You are one of the commenters who makes me wish that the commenter’s name was at the top of the comment, so I can scroll right on by more easily.

You’re a Perry shill who will say anything against any other candidate, and you bore me to tears. Why don’t you run along and pollute some other blog with your Perry propaganda?

JannyMae on November 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM

He is the King of Excuses.

Just like Obama.

And like Newt who blamed his cheating on his love of country.

You’re doin’ great, girl!

And nothing like Perry, who owned his brain-freeze with not one murmur of excuse.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aw, c’mon! You forgot to make “brain-freeze” plural, for one thing. And that doesn’t address the crony capitalism that characterizes his governance. And what about catering to illegal aliens? He hasn’t “owned” these, has he?

itsnotaboutme on November 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM

Lance Murdock on November 14, 2011 at 10:52 PM

ITA. He lost me with that, too. I’ve known what “Right of Return” was since I was 14.

Aslans Girl on November 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM

This is what the conservative movement needs, people who can express policy in a complex but, straight forward manner and not some flash in the pan sideshow. And its people like yourself who are embracing superficial conservationism, not true classical liberalism.

Lance Murdock on November 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich to the rescue!

MeatHeadinCA on November 14, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Some of you might enjoy, “A Team of Rivals”.

you’ll see a man who made so many mistakes, gaffs, and errors whilst finding his way to create a new Freedom for Men.

Lincoln made so many mistakes for years (as did Washington) but his heart and faith, perseverance, and love of liberty was so true that everyone fell in love with it (Like the Gipper)

Do you want a perfect person who you think is a leader? or and imperfect person who wants to lead America into another 2 decades?

It’s time.. and it’s a scary time; but time to donate and talk up your/our candidate with your heart.

The person you want to stand behind is the person who you feel loves America the way you do.. more than any other candidate.

That is how you should donate and vote.

amend2 on November 14, 2011 at 11:03 PM

To add, Cain lost me months ago with his ‘Right of Return’ gaffe.

Lance Murdock on November 14, 2011 at 10:52 PM

For me it was the Stossel interview on abortion…

To whit, I still don’t know if Herman Cain believes states should have the authority to outlaw abortion.

JohnGalt23 on November 14, 2011 at 11:03 PM

BTW this has to rank as the most snarkiest post Allapundit has posted to date! There is something about Cain that rankles Allapundit like nothing Palin could ever do. Is it the gospel singing? Is it the associate pastor deal with Cain? I just wonder, because this goes beyond just alleged incompetence.

milemarker2020 on November 14, 2011 at 10:55 PM

I can’t speak for Allah, but there are undeniable similarities between Palin and Cain. Both are terrific on the stump. They’re each self-made individuals who are good at articulating conservative principles. They’re both hated by the Democrats and media(I know, I’m being redundant). They’re both beloved by a large segment of the conservative and Tea Party base. And most importantly, they were both thrust into the national spotlight before truly being ready for this.

The difference with Palin is that she knew she needed to study up on issues and retreated to Alaska to do that. If you look at Palin today versus the woman in those interviews with Chuck Gibson and Katie Couric, there’s no comparison. Now unfortunately, Palin didn’t end up using all this new information she crammed into her head in a Presidential bid, but when she writes those Facebook posts or does a FoxNews interview, you can tell she knows her stuff.

Cain on the other hand jumped into the race, immediately had the “right of return” gaffe, and has apparently done nothing since then to improve his knowledge of foreign policy. And when you’ve never held elected office and have no credentials to fall back on(as a Jon Huntsman would), you better damn well sound like you know what you’re talking about. He doesn’t.

Doughboy on November 14, 2011 at 11:03 PM

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