A view of American politics from across the pond

posted at 3:30 pm on November 12, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Add this to your list of weekend reading choices. The Guardian has published an editorial with some general observations on the political process in the United States, specifically focusing on the GOP primary race. It’s not particularly shocking in terms of the stories they choose to highlight – very much the same ones we cover here on a daily basis – but more for the unique slant they put on the pitfalls which await anyone seeking the presidency here. A brief sample from the opening:

Those who wish to serve the American people in the republic’s highest office embark on an almost medieval series of trials of character and endurance. They must avoid the political equivalents of the slough of despair, the sucking bog of emotionalism, the dreaded stupidity tree, the equally dreaded pit which awaits the overly clever, the dungeon of sexist blunders and other Pythonesque terrors on their way to the castle in which languishes the enchanted princess, otherwise known as their party’s nomination for president. It is a harsh business: one misstep, one ill-chosen word, one witness to earlier misdeeds can bring you down and, often, not just down but out.

The intricate arabesque the successful candidate must trace can resemble that of a skier zigzagging down a slope dotted with barrels of nitroglycerine. The process has a farcical dimension, and sometimes induces a state of almost catatonic caution in the candidates. But it is pretty good at weeding out people who ought not to be the president of the United States, and the way the Republican field is now narrowing is heartening.

Right off the bat, they point out something which some of us tend to forget in the heat of the battle. The primaries are brutal to be sure, but they serve a purpose. You want the best and you need to winnow out the weak members of the herd before they move up to the big leagues. It’s not always pretty, and it frequently gets downright unfair, but how the candidates react to this type of adversity will at least tell us something of how they will perform down the line.

As to the specific candidates, the Guardian’s views aren’t all that different from many American pundits. They touch on Bachmann’s meteoric rise and fall and Rick Perry’s recent “oops” moment. When it comes to Herman Cain, they spend less time worrying about his problems with sexual harassment charges and more on his singing of pizza related tunes.

As Perry subsides into the scenery, so Herman Cain is flailing because of allegations of sexual harassment. Even though these have so far not damaged him as much as was expected, there seems to be a growing understanding among voters that the United States of America is not a pizza, or even a pizza company. To riff on the jingle from the Godfather’s restaurant chain he once ran, da goods may not be in da box.

Their take on Newt may be even more amusing. In any event, give it a read. It’s frequently useful to step outside of the box and see how we are viewed by other cultures, and this is a well written and amusing peek into how the UK sees our political arena. I’m sure they’d love to hear what we say about theirs…

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I don’t care what Londonistan thinks about the USoA.

davidk on November 12, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Do any of the Brits know how close their culture is to being lost to the rise of Islam?

Oh, wait…..I better put down my rock I was throwing. It looks like I’m living in my own glass house on this side of the Atlantic.

PappyD61 on November 12, 2011 at 3:37 PM

This tells an ugly future when you couple these demographic changes with an appeaser of the highest order in Prince Charles (soon to be King Charles III).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

Goodbye great culture of the Brits, we’re not far behindeth ye.

PappyD61 on November 12, 2011 at 3:39 PM

Goodbye great culture of the Brits, we’re not far behindeth ye.

PappyD61 on November 12, 2011 at 3:39 PM

It’s downhill all the way

DarkCurrent on November 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM

Thanks. I don’t vote until I know what the Europeans think… especially The Guardian.

mankai on November 12, 2011 at 3:44 PM

And totally tangential, I know:

But you don’t read the words, “King Charles III” too often.

Re: the recurring balloon that they skip Charles and go to Andrew, no, Charles must be king, IMO.

If you’re going to have a heredity-based monarchy, then “in for a dime, in for a dollar.”

To skip him would render it meaningless, and I think the monarchy would eventually disintegrate, due to the media cataclysm that would stem from skipping an heir.

Just an idle thought that’s been rolling around my head for years and cane back around :P

cane_loader on November 12, 2011 at 3:51 PM

I don’t care what they think never did never will.

tinkerthinker on November 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM

This tells an ugly future when you couple these demographic changes with an appeaser of the highest order in Prince Charles (soon to be King Charles III).

Goodbye great culture of the Brits, we’re not far behindeth ye.

Yeah, I saw this first-hand last year when I went to England. Upon entering London outside the underground I felt like I was in the United Arab Emirates, not the United Kingdom.

Rambotito on November 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Uh, the Guardian is a totally leftard rag. And considering their wide spread rioting where the cops were helpless to intervene, I suggest they worry about their own country.

Hey, anyone watch the Brit comedy on politics called In The Thick of It? I highly recommend it.

Blake on November 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM

came – lol

cane_loader on November 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM

I don’t know… seems like this guy is just enjoying having a syllable-fest.

J.E. Dyer on November 12, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Via breakingnews.com: Presidential statement: Italian PM Berlusconi has resigned

davidk on November 12, 2011 at 3:54 PM

They’d like us better if we had royals.

SlaveDog on November 12, 2011 at 3:55 PM

But thanks for a fun break, Jazz.

OK-State destroys Texas Tech 66-6. Portents?

J.E. Dyer on November 12, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Which works its way around the back-side of the mountain – that Americans have an instinctive disdain of the hereditary nature of monarchy. Hence the subconscious trepidation in electing someone – candidate unnamed – who reminds them in many ways of the latter of a certain father-son presidential succession that nudged some subconscious anti-monarchal instincts in the American people….

cane_loader on November 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Via breakingnews.com: Presidential statement: Italian PM Berlusconi has resigned

davidk on November 12, 2011 at 3:54 PM

Market rally coming Monday.

cane_loader on November 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM

The primaries are brutal to be sure, but they serve a purpose. You want the best and you need to winnow out the weak members of the herd before they move up to the big leagues.

Yes but it’s also about winnowing out those who get stuck in “the dungeon of sexist blunders” – the politically incorrect. So Republican candiates are proving that they can defer to cultural liberalism as much as anything else.

Hey, anyone watch the Brit comedy on politics called In The Thick of It? I highly recommend it.

Funny but an awful lot of profanities.

aengus on November 12, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Too many red flags in that Guardian piece to be entertaining, this one in the Telegraph about the eurozone crisis was very entertaining.

Skandia Recluse on November 12, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Riots= Water Cannons……after how many days?

Nuff said.

Knucklehead on November 12, 2011 at 4:01 PM

The point of view regarding democratic processes from anyone still residing in the remains of England is as useful as a handful of dirt thrown in your unsuspecting eyes.

ray on November 12, 2011 at 4:08 PM

They’ve been underestimating us for about, oh, 235 years now.

SouthernGent on November 12, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Eleven separate references to George W. Bush out of 32 comments at the end of that distorted pablum Jazz Shaw has deemed ‘useful‘ and ‘well written‘. Who the heck hired that guy at HotAir anyway?

Apparently, the bed-wetting pillow biter Brits suffer from BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) every bit as much as their slimey American reprobate counterparts do.

FlatFoot on November 12, 2011 at 4:18 PM

It’s frequently useful to step outside of the box and see how we are viewed by other cultures, and this is a well written and amusing peek into how the UK sees our political arena.

It may be an unusually calm, reasonable piece for “The Guardian” but that paper is not a place where you’re going to find a middle-of-the-road view that represents the UK. They are a screechy, hard-left nuthouse.

They don’t represent a “jolly olde England” (that no longer exists) looking at America. They represent the angry, America-hating European left. The Guardian makes the New York Times look almost moderate.

Django on November 12, 2011 at 4:25 PM

They’d like us better if we had royals.
SlaveDog on November 12, 2011 at 3:55 PM

We do, more’s the pity.

Feedie on November 12, 2011 at 4:28 PM

The British, we’re either saving their asses or kicking it. What their opinion matters nota bit.

darwin-t on November 12, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Well, see, the good thing about the Europeans, if you don’t like your government, you can just vote yourself a new one, and that solves all your problems.

Skandia Recluse on November 12, 2011 at 4:32 PM

I like Jazz Shaw.

Blake on November 12, 2011 at 4:38 PM

They’d like us better if we had royals.

We have the Won

skanter on November 12, 2011 at 4:43 PM

At least thats not as bad the as the ABC here in Australia (PBS equivalent) who use Letterman as their source for news on the republican primaries

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/abc_gets_its_political_coverage_from_letterman/

wakey74 on November 12, 2011 at 4:44 PM

Did anyone else think that the first gray-shaded block of words from the Guardian sounded like the writer was describing a video game?

listens2glenn on November 12, 2011 at 4:49 PM

It looks like I’m living in my own glass house on this side of the Atlantic.

PappyD61 on November 12, 2011 at 3:37 PM

That would be the ‘Atlantic Pond’, right Pappy?

listens2glenn on November 12, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Pythonesque? I’m picturing a questioner on the next debate asking “What is your quest?”

karl9000 on November 12, 2011 at 4:58 PM

They don’t represent a “jolly olde England” (that no longer exists) looking at America. They represent the angry, America-hating European left. The Guardian makes the New York Times look almost moderate.

Django on November 12, 2011 at 4:25 PM

In a nutshell!

cane_loader on November 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM

The current monarchy is not hereditary – there is the little matter of a politically motivated installation of an imported monarchy to consider (1688).

OldEnglish on November 12, 2011 at 5:07 PM

I’ve noticed this speech characteristic while talking to Brits. The dumber they think you are the slower they talk. If you can force yourself not to laugh it really takes on hysterical dimensions, they love to talk like Alfred Hitchcock.

mixplix on November 12, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Pythonesque? I’m picturing a questioner on the next debate asking “What is your quest?”
karl9000 on November 12, 2011 at 4:58 PM

LOL — and most of the GOP debates have had questions about as deep as “What is your favorite colour?”

KS Rex on November 12, 2011 at 5:16 PM

LOL — and most of the GOP debates have had questions about as deep as “What is your favorite colour?”

Next debate : This or That?

Blue or Yellow?

Rambotito on November 12, 2011 at 5:58 PM

The current monarchy is not hereditary – there is the little matter of a politically motivated installation of an imported monarchy to consider (1688).

OldEnglish on November 12, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Hereditary since 1868 then – didn’t know I had to put that fine a point on my pencil!

/rumble rumble goes the old wall-mount sharpener

cane_loader on November 12, 2011 at 6:00 PM

and these same moderators have been equally tough on the WH. Oh wait….. They can’t think of a single question of any relevance whatsoever to the real world, can they?.

pat on November 12, 2011 at 6:03 PM

From Article:

So, for the moment, the finger points to Mitt Romney. To date there is nothing much against him…

Very telling indeed? Euro Socialists definitively don’t have anything against Mitts policies.

Egfrow on November 12, 2011 at 6:14 PM

The Lawyer Party

Key West Reader on November 12, 2011 at 6:46 PM

And considering their wide spread rioting where the cops were helpless to intervene, I suggest they worry about their own country.

Blake on November 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Yeah, nothing like police passivity in the face of OWS here. Oh wait.

AnotherOpinion on November 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM

So, for the moment, the finger points to Mitt Romney. To date there is nothing much against him except that 30 years ago he strapped his dog to the roof of the car when he and his family went on holiday to Canada. Nothing much, that is, except his constantly changing positions on a variety of important political issues. Yet, while he is undoubtedly a devious man, he is also a serious politician running a serious campaign. If he became president many Americans would be unhappy, but they wouldn’t be scared that they had put a fruitcake into the White House.

Proving that the writer has no understanding of the American electorate.

We do not like “devious men” running our country. The few times we have had one, it has been because they were devious enough to keep us from learning how duplicitous they were before we elected them. One such was Nixon. Another sits in the Oval Office right now.

Romney’s constant weathercocking on every subject under the sun may not be an issue for the Guardian, or even for the “Rockefeller wing” of the GOP, but I can assure you as a registered Republican myself (35 years’ worth) it’s an issue I have.

clear ether

eon

eon on November 12, 2011 at 8:41 PM

The Brits? They smoke fags. C’mon, man. Talk about perverse!

No, I’m not all that interested in non-voters’ opinions of candidates. I’m also thinking The Guardian should worry more about the collapse of England.

AnonymousDrivel on November 13, 2011 at 12:52 AM

Re: the recurring balloon that they skip Charles and go to Andrew, no, Charles must be king, IMO.

I know this is a small point, but it wouldn’t skip Charles and go to his brother, Andrew. If they were to skip at all it would go to his son William.

Noelie on November 13, 2011 at 12:57 AM

Perhaps a reminder of the British system is in order: To become Prime Minister one must spend years in the party trenches, obeying those above you and arm twisting those below you. To get on the ballot, you are selected by your party and agree to abide by the edicts of the party. Votes are nearly always party-line, because if you don’t vote with your party, you are not on the ballot in the next election–that’s the party’s decision, not the voters’. Decisions are made at the highest levels of the party and the peons down below are merely the foot soldiers in the campaign.

After years of cutting deals with those above you and cutting the throats of those below, you wind up with enough friends in the party to support your place in the leadership. Then, if you are lucky enough to be at the top when the electoral pendulum swings back to your party, you get to drive off to see the Queen.

I won’t say that our way is any more noble than this, but it isn’t any worse, either.

HakerA on November 13, 2011 at 12:07 PM

We fought a war, and won, to not have to listen to their drivel. Their opinion matters as much as the opinion from Canada’s subjects do. And that is, zilch.

tx2654 on November 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM