NYT: Let’s sell our allies for fun and profit
posted at 3:40 pm on November 11, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
People have long warned that our reliance on China’s appetite for American debt would eventually force us to recalibrate our foreign policy to satisfy our masters in Beijing. Instead of finding a way to mitigate that possibility, New York Times columnist Paul Kane advises the Obama administration to just embrace the suck. Why not just sell our alliance with Taiwan for a trillion dollars or so?
There are dozens of initiatives President Obama could undertake to strengthen our economic security. Here is one: He should enter into closed-door negotiations with Chinese leaders to write off the $1.14 trillion of American debt currently held by China in exchange for a deal to end American military assistance and arms sales to Taiwan and terminate the current United States-Taiwan defense arrangement by 2015.
This would be a most precious prize to the cautious men in Beijing, one they would give dearly to achieve. After all, our relationship with Taiwan, as revised in 1979, is a vestige of the cold war.
That’s an arguable point, of course, but Kane isn’t arguing that we should recalculate our foreign policy regarding Taiwan as an intelligent new approach to global security. He doesn’t argue that Beijing has improved its record on freedom and liberty. In fact, the lead on this article exactly explains the motivation in this proposal, emphasis mine:
WITH a single bold act, President Obama could correct the country’s course, help assure his re-election, and preserve our children’s future.
Er, really? American debt is approaching $15 trillion. The amount that China would forgive would be less than any of the annual budget deficits in any of Obama’s three years in office. Even if Barack Obama made this deal, it wouldn’t “correct the country’s course,” it would merely and momentarily lower the national debt while the administration adds more to it in a single year.
Mark Krikorian asks whether we really want to advertise that our alliances are for sale:
While it’s not the same kind of nonsense we’ve come to expect from most of their regular columnists, it is nonetheless pretty silly. It’s not like I have a romantic attachment to the Lost Cause of Chiang Kai-shek, but do we really want to reinforce the idea (after Ben Ali and Mubarak) that it’s dangerous to be our friend?
Why stop with Taiwan? Let’s sell our alliance with Israel to the Iranians for $2 trillion, or the Saudis if the Iranians won’t bite. We can sell our NATO alliance to the Russians for $3 trillion. Those are just costly entanglements from which we can score some short-term profit, too. In fact, let’s just have an auction at State to see how many alliances we can sell, and get top dollar for those diplomatic assets.
I believe I’ve seen dumber columns at the New York Times, but I’m having difficulty in actually coming up with an example.









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But you are just part of the evil oppressive Kochian empire, man! Mao and Che were just misunderstood, the visionaries that they were! And Obama has to refill his stash somehow!
You don’t understand smart power, man! Evil Corporatist oppressor!
Vanceone on November 11, 2011 at 3:44 PM
What is the going rate on a few million jews?
MNHawk on November 11, 2011 at 3:45 PM
Wow. Just…
You don’t have to be a specialist to see how foolish this is.
Prufrock on November 11, 2011 at 3:46 PM
Anything by Krugman. But this isn’t just dumb, it is despicable. If anyone goes into a harry situation with Paul Kane they better watch their back, because he will sell you out in a heartbeat.
NotCoach on November 11, 2011 at 3:46 PM
Yes…
… but not by selling our alliances.
Seven Percent Solution on November 11, 2011 at 3:47 PM
Better sold than p*ssed away (Iraq).
/bitter, bitter sarc
cthulhu on November 11, 2011 at 3:48 PM
This is what happens when you elect a Marxist.
faraway on November 11, 2011 at 3:48 PM
Dumber columns at the Slimes must be the Dubinksy Stalin is a great hero the Soviet Union is paradise columns of the 1930s while wholesale genocide was occurring there. Then you also have any Krugman/Dowd/Friedman column of the day for knucklehead prizes.
eaglewingz08 on November 11, 2011 at 3:48 PM
The New York Times. Playing leftist morons for chumps since 1931…at least.
MNHawk on November 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM
These articles will continue to be written to soften us up, so that eventually, it will happen. And we will feel good about it.
faraway on November 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM
Unfortunately , exactly how all these mysterious benefits are to occur is left entirely unexplained.
aquaviva on November 11, 2011 at 3:54 PM
Of course, in paying down our debt, remember these immortal words from the New York Times.
I get a Pulitzer woody every time I read that line.
MNHawk on November 11, 2011 at 3:54 PM
If Obama managed to raise a Trillion dollars, does anyone honestly thing he’d use that windfall to reduce the debt?
He’d give the money to unions, who would, of course, give much of it back to the Democrats.
hawksruleva on November 11, 2011 at 3:56 PM
Why stop there? Why don’t we start selling weapons and weapons technology to our enemies?
Fezzik on November 11, 2011 at 3:57 PM
That’ll cover like 9 months of Obama deficit spending. Totally worth it!
forest on November 11, 2011 at 3:57 PM
Pinky swear.
Fezzik on November 11, 2011 at 4:00 PM
I’m a little surprised at the shock around here. Permanent allies?… permanent interests?… ring a bell?
However, as an IR friend of mine once put my discussing the possibility of Canadian seperatism and their Western provinces petititoning to join the United States: “There are some things you just don’t discuss in polite company.”
JohnGalt23 on November 11, 2011 at 4:00 PM
You beat me to it. This is vile. You don’t sell out your friends.
rbj on November 11, 2011 at 4:00 PM
Strong horse-weak horse. I doubt the Arabs are the only ones who think like that. I’l bet the Chinese power group have daily belly laugh sessions after reading our newspapers.
a capella on November 11, 2011 at 4:02 PM
And on Veteran’s Day? Sheesh.
tomg51 on November 11, 2011 at 4:05 PM
While we are dumping outmoded constraints:
Since it has been demonstrated that the extant version of the fourth estate has lost objectivity most of the time, and logic much of the time, its destruction will probably be welcomed by a majority of the people.
Indeed, our freedom of the press, dating to the 1770s, was envisioned to apply to organs like the local town papers in competition with one another and offering disparate opinions. It has little relevance to the monopoly controlled by the NYT and aided by cohorts across the electronic and cultural media.
At the least, we need an antitrust attack against the monolith.
IlikedAUH2O on November 11, 2011 at 4:09 PM
Perhaps you missed the underlying theme of selling out your friends for a few pieces of silver. Paul Kane is not talking about a changing world. Paul Kane is promoting international relations based on who can bring the most swag to the table.
NotCoach on November 11, 2011 at 4:09 PM
Charge them for all the intellectual property they steal from us. That would help a lot.
Paul-Cincy on November 11, 2011 at 4:12 PM
Trade them Woodruff Park in Atlanta instead!I would view it as a win-win.
Mutnodjmet on November 11, 2011 at 4:13 PM
I favor the Buy American first approach.
Let’s ask the NY Times, how much we can sell the Freedom of the Press for.
PackerBronco on November 11, 2011 at 4:14 PM
A tradition in international relations as old as the nation-state system itself.
Older, in fact.
JohnGalt23 on November 11, 2011 at 4:15 PM
Without getting into the whole “selling out your friends”, here is another way to look at it.
What happens when you bail your “brother-in-law”out of debt, in six months he is asking for another loan…well, we could sell Taiwan, but in another couple of years, we would have to sell England, or Alaska, or Hawaii…we would just be in debt again.
The problem is what we owe…it’s what we spend.
right2bright on November 11, 2011 at 4:16 PM
It’s already been bought…
right2bright on November 11, 2011 at 4:17 PM
I’m sure they’d throw in an extra trillion if we use our military to help with their invasion of Taiwan.
michaelo on November 11, 2011 at 4:17 PM
I see.
Impressment. Older than dirt and practiced much longer than not.
War profiteering. Older then dirt and practiced much longer than not.
Slavery. Older then dirt and practiced much longer than not.
Your logic. Withered and frail and much shorter then my…
NotCoach on November 11, 2011 at 4:19 PM
He ASKS??????
This is one of those things you thunder against, even if the cool kids make fun of you for being an old poopyhead.
They’ve sunk pretty damn low, at the New York Times.
J.E. Dyer on November 11, 2011 at 4:28 PM
Well its probably not that short.
sharrukin on November 11, 2011 at 4:28 PM
:o
NotCoach on November 11, 2011 at 4:32 PM
Heck, let’s just hire out the US armed forces as mercenaries to the highest bidder – cost plus hefty fee with a big bonus if we eradicate their target country quicker than budgeted!
“HEY EU! You want us to take care of that Greece and Italy problem? We can make them go away – *all* of them – for a price!”
Midas on November 11, 2011 at 4:34 PM
See it’s not slavery when you sell your friends off to the highest bidder, ’cause that would be wrong.
It’s purely business you understand. Nothing personal.
Lily on November 11, 2011 at 4:34 PM
Not just dumb, but venal.
RebeccaH on November 11, 2011 at 4:37 PM
On a more serious note, though – can’t we just sell them California instead? Or Manhattan?
Midas on November 11, 2011 at 4:37 PM
i do feel a little sorry for the half-wits that half to write to make a living. I mean the guy probably struggles every week to come up with the requisite number of words
the only fly in the ointment i see it that china would far spend its money on it hegemonic goals over the entire pacific region…and of course Africa.
Trinkets like the ROC are nice, but please.
r keller on November 11, 2011 at 4:39 PM
We could sell a few million females to the ChiComs, they’re running low I hear.
Akzed on November 11, 2011 at 4:41 PM
Everything you mentioned is still practiced in this world. And the reason we don’t engage in slavery is our domestic policy is governed by a level of moral rectitude that I, for one, don’t want constraining my foreign policy.
Money changes hands between states all the time. And alliances change and shift, all the time. They always have. They always will. Because, at the end of the day, relations between states are governed only by the law of the jungle. And trating it any differently is one step short of wishcasting.
Do you really want to govern our international relations with the same moral eye that we govern our domestic relations?
JohnGalt23 on November 11, 2011 at 4:45 PM
A few million women won’t balance their books, any more than $1 trillion would balance ours.
JohnGalt23 on November 11, 2011 at 4:46 PM
Yeah, let Barry show just how much trust foreign countries should put in any deals with the US.
GarandFan on November 11, 2011 at 4:49 PM
Don’t worry, I’m sure they can fix that.
Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on November 11, 2011 at 4:49 PM
… and, of course, it would have to be negotiated in Munich.
J_Crater on November 11, 2011 at 4:52 PM
Absolutely. While we may be friendly with some third world dictators from time to time, our overriding theme should always be the promotion of liberty and economic freedom. Alliances with undesirables should only be entered into with that goal in mind. And when one of those allies are themselves a free nation we do not sell them out to anyone, let alone a Communist dictatorship.
Would you really advocate the destruction of Israel and the massacre of its citizens if every Muslim nation in the world agreed to a treaty with us to allow us to eradicate their terrorist elements as we saw fit?
NotCoach on November 11, 2011 at 4:55 PM
Well Mao did offer Nixon 10 million in back in 1973…
Dawnsblood on November 11, 2011 at 4:55 PM
Ok JohnGalt23, I’ll listen. Make your pitch.
We sell out our allies for minimal temporary economic gain.
Then what? What is the big master plan here that justifies this action?
Could we end up in a situation in the future where we don’t support Israel, or Taiwan, or Australia or whoever? Yep, definitely could happen based on various geopolitical shifts.
Is that the sort of thing we should do to an ally in this situation, handing them over to their enemies for a purely financial gain?
I wouldn’t see the risk/reward here as being optimal; but feel free to make your case that this is a reasoned rational argument.
While we’re negotiating, how much for the spare key to your neighbor’s house that he entrusted you with? How does $50 sound for the key and a promise from you not to call the cops or rat me out? I’ll go as high as $100 if you’ll tell me when he’s heading on his vacation for the holidays and when he’s expected back…
gekkobear on November 11, 2011 at 4:59 PM
I think we should have taken them.
NotCoach on November 11, 2011 at 5:04 PM
Very noble. Very idealistic.
Unfortunately, idealist regimes have a habit of getting steamrolled by realist ones.
We have, since at least the end of WWII, a tradition of dealing with nations based not on how they treat their own people, but on how they treat us. We don’t do that because we are hard-hearted… we do it because it works. We do it because it maximizes, in theory at least, our own freedom, our own liberty, our own security.
Tell me, is there any price… not just monetary, but also in terms of military/trade/diplomatic concessions at which it is justified to throw Taiwan overboard? Israel? England?
Because foreign policy makers in those countries know full well there’s a price someone else must meet for them to sever their friendship with us. Bet on it. Just because nobody can (currently) meet it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
JohnGalt23 on November 11, 2011 at 5:09 PM
How much for Kanes building?
LarryD on November 11, 2011 at 5:10 PM
Would have saved a lot of abortions over there. Would have meant a less-graying population here.
JohnGalt23 on November 11, 2011 at 5:11 PM
I think there is a great deal of ignorance in what you posted. I already acknowledged that we have certainly made alliances with undesirables, especially during the Cold War. But that was because they were ostensibly on our side against the biggest undesirable of them all. That does not mean we sacrifice all to help or come to the aid of free nations at the drop of hat. But we do not betray them either. There is a difference between support at all costs and betrayal. And any free nation that would sell us down the road is most likely selling out the freedom of their own people as well.
NotCoach on November 11, 2011 at 5:18 PM
I’m surprised the NYT doesn’t suggest we demand tribute from weaker nations. Just imagine the revenue and the increased chances of Obama’s reelection when we demand tribute from over 100 countries.
Japan gives us 100 Billion a year in tribute
South Korea 50 Billion
Thailand 10 Billion
Mongolia 1 Billion
Germany 40 Billion
Poland 10 Billion
Give us money or we will bomb you. Sure we will have to make good on our threat now and again but it’s worth it. Anythijng for the children…and Obama’s reelection.
uskorea on November 11, 2011 at 5:28 PM
It makes one wonder if the Fish Wrap is desperately searching for web traffic.
William Teach on November 11, 2011 at 5:32 PM
Chi-Coms march into Taiwan in 3…2…1…
Steve Z on November 11, 2011 at 5:52 PM
You should definitely consider selling out the joos.. If you want to end up in the end like the Babylonians, Assyrians, Romans, ancient Egypt, the Czars, then the Communists, the Nazis, the list is a bit longer but ends with modern day Europe, whom are on their way to oblivion.
I think this is a brilliant strategy, that is if too big to fail yet fail mightilly is one’s plan. Esau sold out his heritage for a bowl of lentil soup.. World has never been the same since. Personally I’d be careful selling out morality and what’s right. There’s someone watching upstairs and he does not take kindly to this concept judging by those empires mentioned above whom are now dust.
We’ll still watch America’s back though even if you try to sell us down the river, because we love you guys. Sincerely, the Israelites.
saus on November 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM
Bingo! Why don’t we sell Hawaii to the Chinese for forgiveness of our debt to them (after we pull our fleet out of Pearl Harbor).
Then let Congress impeach Barack Hussein Obama Jr. because he was ineligible to be President because he was born in China. The real Manchurian candidate!
Steve Z on November 11, 2011 at 5:59 PM
Sorry man – but I AM ALL FOR selling Taiwan to the ChiComms.
Hell – I would have GIVEN China Taiwan if China would just agree to allow us to deal with North Korea in our own way.
I was not always this way. If you’ll remember, Reagan was a STALWART on protecting Taiwan.
However – those were the days of Chang Kai Shek – a man who vowed to retake the Chinese mainland.
The Taiwanese government today – no longer adhere’s to Chang’s sworn vow to retake the mainland.
It’s now a tiny island – which was usually a property of whoever controlled the Chinese mainland. Give it back. Hell – the Brit’s gave Hong Kong back and that place hasn’t really changed much at all except for the flag flying over buildings.
I never thought of “forgiving” American debt in trade for Taiwan – but, by damn – if we could get such a deal let’s jump on it!
HondaV65 on November 11, 2011 at 6:04 PM
wow
cmsinaz on November 11, 2011 at 6:08 PM
Ed, you are confusing stupidity with depravity. Only a depraved whore would sell someone else’s ass. In this case, Kane is talking about selling out an entire nation. Truly vile.
novaculus on November 11, 2011 at 7:42 PM
The real question is why you even read that rag.
woodNfish on November 11, 2011 at 8:30 PM
Good lord, should we really be beholden to the realpolitik calculations of 40 years ago? Are we really beholden to the fanatical anti-communism of the post war era forever??? What the hell good does our relationship with Taiwan do for us??? It certainly didn’t keep communist China from becoming a regional power, what the hell good does it do us now???
ernesto on November 11, 2011 at 8:40 PM
Hard to believe that there is somebody who has a worse international relations calculus than does President Obama.
(I hope I haven’t spoken too soon…)
ss396 on November 11, 2011 at 8:50 PM
Positively acid comment, coming from you. Not that I can argue for a second.
I guess life is easier without a trace of decency, loyalty, or even morality.
tom on November 11, 2011 at 8:57 PM
This looks like something straight from the Ron Paul school of foreign policy.
NTropy on November 11, 2011 at 9:20 PM
Seen the latest NMA Vid?
h/t Legal Insurrection
VPJ on November 11, 2011 at 9:58 PM