Cain campaign: We’re sticking with Mark Block

posted at 10:25 am on November 10, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Washington Times reporter Kerry Picket reached out to the Herman Cain campaign after an avalanche of criticism over the handling of the response to sexual harassment claims over the last two weeks, which increased markedly after campaign manager Mark Block falsely asserted that he had “confirmed” that one of the accusers was related to a Politico reporter.  The reporter had left Politico more than a year earlier, and turned out to be no relation to the accuser.  Despite calls for Block to leave the campaign from Tom Tancredo, a former Cain staffer, and conservative pundits (The Hill’s story also quotes me), Cain’s team says they will stick with Block:

A highly placed Cain source sent the Water Cooler an e-mail: “This is a hysterically funny rumor. The Inside the Beltway crowd is in the midst of a nervous breakdown regarding the success the Cain campaign is having with the American people. Mr. Cain believes in the old adage, ‘You continue to dance with the one that brung ya’ to the dance.’”

Loyalty is an admirable quality, but flat-out incompetence and the failure to correct it is not, especially in an executive.  Herman Cain may very well be innocent of these accusations, but Mark Block offered two unsubstantiated accusations in less than a week, both of which the campaign had to retract, in response to the allegations.  If Block went off the reservation to do that, the proper remedy for an executive would be to replace him immediately, especially after Block’s pompous declaration that he had “confirmed” that Josh Kraushaar worked for Politico and that he was Karen Kraushaar’s son.  Not only were neither true, a simple Google search would have shown that Josh Kraushaar works for National Journal, a competing publication, and has since 2010.

This is misguided loyalty, anyway.  Mark Block may have helped Herman Cain campaign, but Block didn’t “bring” Cain to the top of the polling.  Cain did that himself by convincing Republican voters that his executive skills are so excellent and his track record of rescue operations in the private sector so compelling that it validates a nomination for someone who has never won an election before now.  Cain’s refusal to deal with Block’s embarrassing performance undermines both of those arguments; if he can’t recognize when an adviser has become a detriment to his campaign’s credibility and recognize the crisis in front of him, what confidence will voters have in his ability to handle those tasks as President?  That is a valid concern for any primary candidate, but Cain’s unique pitch and resumé makes it a central issue for his candidacy.

Erick Erickson writes today that Cain needs to fire Block immediately, and to keep going until he’s cleaned house entirely:

It is abundantly obvious to a lot of us Herman that you are not living up to your own words. You said you would surround yourself with the best people — the competent people to help you.

Last week, J.D. Gordon had a disastrous performance on a Blackberry on Geraldo’s show. His performance set the tone for the Monday news shows, all of which pointed out that your own communications vice president would not deny the story.

Then Mark Block went on TV to blame Curt Anderson only to walk it back the next day.

This week, Mark Block again went on TV, said he had verified the identify of a reporter as the son of your accuser, and got it totally wrong. But he said it was verified. It was a lie.

Herman, you said you’d surround yourself with the best people and you’ve surrounded yourself with Class A failures. The problems you are facing are problems of campaign staffing. You’ve failed to live up to your own standard of hiring the best people.

I still believe you can win. But to do so, you must fire your staff and start over.

That should have already happened by now.  It should have happened with Block as soon as his “confirmed” assertion about Josh Kraushaar was proven utterly false.  The fact that Cain isn’t dealing with the problem is Cain’s biggest problem now.

Update: Cain’s defenders in the comments section are mainly saying that Cain doesn’t answer to media types like … Erick and me.  Well, of course not in the literal sense — we aren’t running his campaign.  But he’s running for President, which would make him accountable to everyone.  Furthermore, he wants to get our votes, and has to make the case that he’s competent enough to convince us.  I’m not dictating to Cain what he must do; I’m telling him what I think he should do if he wants to convince me that he’s serious and competent.

If the defense of Cain is that we’re being big meanies for pointing out his campaign failings, then I think we’re missing the point of having a primary process.  It’s not to glorify all candidates, or any of them.  It’s to pick the person with the best policies who has the best chance of beating Barack Obama in November 2012.  If this campaign keeps Mark Block on board after his misrepresentations, it’s not serious enough to warrant support.  In other words, to quote The Godfather, “It’s not personal, Sonny.  It’s business.”

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Well, there ya go. Continuing to surround himself with the best people available.

a capella on November 10, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Managerial genius.

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Block does need to be fired and replaced with experienced and competent campaign managers. Cain really does have a shot at this, and I believe him when he says he’s in it to win it. But he needs to be focused on Iowa and South Carolina(New Hampshire is all but a lock for Mittens). And I have no doubt that the lack of presence in those states is at least in part due to whatever strategery Block has concocted.

I hope at the very least Cain keeps him behind the scenes from now on and brings in additional help. With all the money he’s raised in the last month and a half, there’s no excuse to not do so.

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Mental Block

William Amos on November 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM

I heard Ed Rollins is looking for a job.

katy the mean old lady on November 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM

He definately not let Block be the face of the campaign.

ldbgcoleman on November 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Reason number 1000 its going to be Romney as the nominee. This is an easy decision to fire this guy, if this is a preview as Cain as an executive, well, no thanks.

nswider on November 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Maybe in the long run, Cain will not be all he can be because of Block. However, besides bloggers, pundits, and the very few who pay attention, I just don’t think it matters. I just don’t think anyone is going to vote against Cain because of Mark Block.

jmell7 on November 10, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Block was making some HUGE blunders long before the public saw his face.

Kermit on November 10, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Ugh, really? Missing out on a great opportunity to sweep the decks clear and gain back some traction.

Maybe it’s time to start talking Mike Castle again.

Bishop on November 10, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Block shouldn’t leave it up to Cain, he should personally resign. If you’re a liability to a campaign, step away from it.

rbj on November 10, 2011 at 10:35 AM

Herman, dump the guy and call Wasilla. She can put you in touch with someone competent.These pro managers are the biggest bunch of snakes going. Time for less political resume and more common sense.

katy the mean old lady on November 10, 2011 at 10:35 AM

I really don’t know if this is going to effect Cain in a negative way. I learned in 2010 watching NV and DE to never underestimate the stupidity of GOP primary voters.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM

ya, not crazy about block head.

Oil Can on November 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM

The fact that Cain isn’t dealing with the problem is Cain’s biggest problem now.

No. That was his biggest problem before this announcement.

The biggest problem now is that when he has to dump Block (which he will, either from the noise from the right-wing megaphone, or for some future episode of appalling incompetence), everybody will say “I told you so”, and it will look like ol’ Herm is actually Herman the Caveman, caving every which way he can.

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM

So, there’s a big pool of national level, available campaign managers to choose from?

parteagirl on November 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM

Sadly the problem with the Cain campaign isnt Block its Cain.

William Amos on November 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM

Reason number 1000 its going to be Romney as the nominee. This is an easy decision to fire this guy, if this is a preview as Cain as an executive, well, no thanks.

nswider on November 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Cain could either be showing loyalty to the guy(he did help Cain get this far after all) and/or he may not wanna add any fuel to the fire after the week he’s had. Think about it. Firing your campaign manager(even if it’s the right move) allows the vultures in the media to pile on even more.

Now that being said, Cain better keep him off the airwaves for the rest of his campaign. Block has done little good for Cain since he became so ubiquitous on TV. It was cute when he was just the guy who smoked in a web ad. But he’s now known as a loose cannon who levels unsubstantiated accusations which frankly makes him no better than Bialek or Allred.

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 10:37 AM

I heard Ed Rollins is looking for a job.

katy the mean old lady on November 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM

No way does Rollins get involved with this train wreck. He bailed on Perot’s campaign for Perot doing a lot less stupid stuff.

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM

. With all the money he’s raised in the last month and a half, there’s no excuse to not do so.

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM

One of the Fox roving reporters(Levin, I think) said he knew at least one high level, GOP consultant with the brains, nads, and experience to handle the job, who declined a job offer from the Cain campaign. If there is some reluctnace, that may change if he can get the harrassment doo doo taken care of completly.

a capella on November 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM

Move Block to the background but keep him. You don’t say how high when the media says jump (even the right wing media).

rhombus on November 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM

Ugh.

KingGold on November 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM

He should speak to Newt about cleaning house.

SouthernGent on November 10, 2011 at 10:39 AM

I would like to see Block go as well, but after what Ed Rollins did to Bachmann, I am sure Herman is caught between a rock and a hard place. If he lets the man go, will he try to damage Herman’s campaign? So many former campaign people seem to love sour grapes. I wish Herman would at least keep Mr. Block behind the scenes and off the TV.

squeek71 on November 10, 2011 at 10:39 AM

Not good Cain

Perry!

cmsinaz on November 10, 2011 at 10:39 AM

He doesn’t need to be fired. All Cain has to say is he is being “re-assigned” inside the campaign. And, he needs to get a spokesman who doesn’t have the propensity to shooting oneself in the foot every chance they get…Cain has enough distractions..

Static21 on November 10, 2011 at 10:39 AM

So, there’s a big pool of national level, available campaign managers to choose from?

parteagirl on November 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM

Probably not. But that’s no excuse to keep one who has publicly embarassed your campaign twice in less than 2 weeks.

I still like Cain, but this bothers me more than all those BS accusations since this is something he has direct control over.

DrAllecon on November 10, 2011 at 10:40 AM

Well, there ya go. Continuing to surround himself with the best people available.

a capella on November 10, 2011 at 10:28 AM

“Mr. Cain, there’s a call on line 2. It’s Joe Paterno.”

BuckeyeSam on November 10, 2011 at 10:40 AM

Reason number 1000 its going to be Romney as the nominee.

nswider on November 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM

I think Romney is going to go the way of Hillary ’08, actually. This is not a normal primary, and it certainly will not be a normal election. Most Republicans right now view this election as the battle for the soul of the country, and Romney is… well, Romney just isn’t the one we’re looking for to get the job done. Maybe Romney should run for Senate — he would fit in more with that crowd. :-)

Punchenko on November 10, 2011 at 10:40 AM

One of the Fox roving reporters(Levin, I think) said he knew at least one high level, GOP consultant with the brains, nads, and experience to handle the job, who declined a job offer from the Cain campaign. If there is some reluctnace, that may change if he can get the harrassment doo doo taken care of completly.

a capella on November 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM

That would surprise me not at all. This is not the week any experienced campaign manager would wanna jump aboard the Cain Train. If Cain manages to whether this storm and his poll numbers and fundraising remain stable(or God help us even improve!), then there will be no shortage of qualified folks who are willing to work for his campaign. But we’ll probably have to wait til at least early next week before knowing for sure how this whole episode will affect his candidacy.

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Remember how Bush stuck to his idiot buddies when they screwed up?

Love to have that happen again.

John_Locke on November 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Good for Cain!

Karmi on November 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Ugh. Herman. Fire the dead wood. He makes Ed Rollins look good.

MadisonConservative on November 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Friendship, loyalty and all the rest go out the window when your campaign manager makes himself the story. When Block said he confirmed the accusers son worked at politico and he was wrong, ie he never confirmed it, thats an inexcusable offense. Also, if Block had any sense of professional ethics he would quit. As a campaign manager if you start to hurt your candidate thats the responsible thing to do. Cain needs someone professional to right the ship. Bush was loyal to the wrong people too, its not an endearing quality, its an alarming one.

nswider on November 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM

No way does Rollins get involved with this train wreck. He bailed on Perot’s campaign for Perot doing a lot less stupid stuff.

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM

I knew i should have gone with a sarc tag. How would that serpent help?

katy the mean old lady on November 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM

Cain better keep him off the airwaves for the rest of his campaign.

I agree. Cain looks like he’s admitting a mistake if he dumps him. Just keep him in the office and away from the cameras.

parteagirl on November 10, 2011 at 10:43 AM

Blockhead.

profitsbeard on November 10, 2011 at 10:43 AM

Remember how Bush stuck to his idiot buddies when they screwed up?

John_Locke on November 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Yeah, and he handed out the Presidential Medal of Freedom like they were going out of style to those said idiot buddies.

Punchenko on November 10, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Mr. Cain believes in the old adage, ‘You continue to dance with the one that brung ya’ to the dance.’”

Cainwreck.

BuckeyeSam on November 10, 2011 at 10:44 AM

One of the Fox roving reporters(Levin, I think) said he knew at least one high level, GOP consultant with the brains, nads, and experience to handle the job, who declined a job offer from the Cain campaign. If there is some reluctnace, that may change if he can get the harrassment doo doo taken care of completly.

a capella on November 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM

That’s only part of the problem. Even if there is 40 years of videotape of Herman Cain not sexually harrassing anyone, this entire incident has been demonstrative of a candidate who was unwilling to do what every professional would tell him he absolutely needed to do.

Fire Mark Block, and you can at least make the claim that it was bad advice you were getting, not good advice you were ignoring. But if in fact this was Herman Cain merely being Herman Cain, and ignoring what was obvious to everyone around him, then no professional is going to want to get involved with someone like that, no matter how much money they have.

B

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 10:44 AM

I’m sorry but this Kraushaar-Politico-National Journal mixup was picayune and absolutely unimportant.

DaydreamBeliever on November 10, 2011 at 10:45 AM

That’s gonna leave a mark. A Mark Block.

My sides are hurting. The Cain campaign is an absolute menace to the routine way of doing business. It is also making bloggers & commenters have hissy fits with the vapors.

Some day, I hope to find out if this is what Sarah Palin meant when she said “unconventional campaign.”

platypus on November 10, 2011 at 10:45 AM

I am officially questioning Cain’s judgment.

Is this allowed?

portlandon on November 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

No. Cain will not be dictated to by the Beltway. This is why the Beltway crowd that Ed Morrissey, it seems, would love to join, can’t get over the fact they can’t control Cain. Again, the things Ed is complaining about are small potatoes.

And the professionals? How have they done? You mean like the geniuses that ran the McCain campaign in 2008? Or Ed Rollins who ran Michelle Bachmann’s campaign? Or those who were with Newt in the summer and try to sabotaged his campaign in favor of Rick Perry? Or those geniuses around Rick Perry now who can’t seem to get him ready for debates? Or the Romney crew that can’t seem to get him out of the low 20s in the polls?

I would like to ask Ed Morrissey, just who are these geniuses and professional that could do better than what Mark Block and Cain’s staff have done with his campaign thus far?

milemarker2020 on November 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Mark Block offered two unsubstantiated accusations in less than a week, both of which the campaign had to retract, in response to the allegations.

Cigarettes cause brain damage…?

itsnotaboutme on November 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Friendship, loyalty and all the rest go out the window when your campaign manager makes himself the story. When Block said he confirmed the accusers son worked at politico and he was wrong, ie he never confirmed it, thats an inexcusable offense. Also, if Block had any sense of professional ethics he would quit. As a campaign manager if you start to hurt your candidate thats the responsible thing to do. Cain needs someone professional to right the ship. Bush was loyal to the wrong people too, its not an endearing quality, its an alarming one.

nswider on November 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM

I agree, but Cain’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. If he fires Block, it’s gonna make matters worse for him with the mainstream media. And like it or not, they’re still out to get Cain, so the last thing he needs to do is give them more ammo which firing one’s campaign manager would most certainly do.

The best move might be to just keep Block out of the picture from this point forward. And bring in additional help particularly in the early primary states.

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

How would that serpent help?

katy the mean old lady on November 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM

I’m willing to bet that had Ed Rollins been in charge of Cain’s campaign, this episode would have been put to bed long ago… probably by leaking the original NRA documents to the press three months ago, and accusing some other campaign of having done so.

Of course, that assumes the original NRA documents are as innocuous as ol’ Herm claims…

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 10:47 AM

And another thing?

The Inside the Beltway crowd is in the midst of a nervous breakdown regarding the success the Cain campaign is having with the American people.

This person ought to be dumped as well. Block’s turning off conservative supporters, not liberal media types. This is the exact kind of garbage “True Conservative” campaigns throw against the wall in a desperate attempt to cover their mistakes.

Dollars to donuts this person worked on either the Buck, Angle, or O’Donnell campaigns.

KingGold on November 10, 2011 at 10:47 AM

Cain drain.

Joe Mama on November 10, 2011 at 10:48 AM

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Point taken.

a capella on November 10, 2011 at 10:48 AM

milemarker2020 on November 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

This is what happens when you drink the Kool-Aid.
Cain gaffes even more often than he flirts with chicks. His campaign chair is a liar. Dump him already, milemarker2020.

itsnotaboutme on November 10, 2011 at 10:48 AM

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 10:47 AM

Thanks for making my point.

katy the mean old lady on November 10, 2011 at 10:49 AM

KingGold on November 10, 2011 at 10:47 AM

Yep. Tin ear syndrome. Or something.

a capella on November 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Want a Daddywarbucks or American Stalin?

President Ulysses S. Grant was loyal.

President Lincoln would fire his own mother, trash the Bill of Rights or kill half his countrymen and burn their families out of their homes to meet his goals.

Oh, slap my face.

IlikedAUH2O on November 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM

I’m sorry but this Kraushaar-Politico-National Journal mixup was picayune and absolutely unimportant.

DaydreamBeliever on November 10, 2011 at 10:45 AM

He went out and, when asked a direct question: “Have you confirmed this?”, deliberately lied to the most friendly press outlet the Cain campaign has.

How do you think Sean Hannity feels about Mark Block this morning? Think he thinks it’s a picayune matter?

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Mark Block as White House Chief of Staff?

No thanks.

HondaV65 on November 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Oy. The whole process is a mess, we’ll just see how it plays out. I still think he was better off firing Block and bringing someone else in. By not doing that hes pretending this problem doesnt exist when its becoming a cancer to his campaign.

nswider on November 10, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Mr. Cain believes in the old adage, ‘You continue to dance with the one that brung ya’ to the dance.’”

Jeezus Frack in a Cadillac Herb. If you’re intent on bringing it with ya, for God’s sakes keep him away from the cameras and the boob tube.

Knucklehead on November 10, 2011 at 10:52 AM

Somebody’s got a hair across their a**.

RedRedRice on November 10, 2011 at 10:53 AM

He went out and, when asked a direct question: “Have you confirmed this?”, deliberately lied to the most friendly press outlet the Cain campaign has.

How do you think Sean Hannity feels about Mark Block this morning? Think he thinks it’s a picayune matter?

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM

At the very least – Cain should come out and denounce Mark Block’s comments about Curt Anderson and offer a public apology to Curt Anderson and Rick Perry for fingering them for leaking the Politico story.

The fact that neither Cain nor Block wants to apologize for this grievous smear – says TONS about their CHARACTER.

It also says TONS about their political smarts. Perry’s got at least 8 percent support – and that support COULD GO to Cain if Perry dropped out. It won’t now though, because Perry supporters are pretty damned disgusted with Cain’s behavior toward Perry. And – you can bet the day Perry drops out of this race – he’ll have some sweet and “choice” words for Cain. You can bet Perry will work behind the scenes to destroy Cain and good on him if he does that!

HondaV65 on November 10, 2011 at 10:54 AM

itsnotaboutme on November 10, 2011 at 10:48 AM

Dump him and then you will support Cain? Why should Cain waste his time doing that? Again, who are these people that would have done a better job with Cain’s candidacy? No one believe Cain would be where he is in the polls right now and yet I am to believe that others would do better than the crew Cain has now? Yes they’ve made mistakes, but up until this smear campaign, they’ve serve Cain well. I don’t blame Cain for showing loyalty and not bending to media pressure to dump people at their whim.

milemarker2020 on November 10, 2011 at 10:55 AM

I’m not very confident in Cain as a candidate. But I’m also not real impressed by the finger-wagging tone taken here. Ed, and Erick Erickson, how does this grab you: Cain is his own man and can do whatever he wants. He doesn’t answer to pundits.

Missy on November 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM

I agree, but Cain’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. If he fires Block, it’s gonna make matters worse for him with the mainstream media. And like it or not, they’re still out to get Cain, so the last thing he needs to do is give them more ammo which firing one’s campaign manager would most certainly do.

The best move might be to just keep Block out of the picture from this point forward. And bring in additional help particularly in the early primary states.

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Yup. Cain is smart enough to recognize that there’s a whole gaggle of Perry supporters out there right now reeling from last night and desperate for something, anything to let them jump on the mean black man who hurt their Perry — not to mention a wounded media watching their unimpeachable sources turning into serial gold-diggers and complainers.

I sincerely doubt we’re going to see Block on TV again. And I also would imagine that there’s some significant org chart rearranging going on within the Cain campaign. But like most businessmen, Cain is aware that what you do internally and what you do with the brand are two different things, and that the latter need not be affected by the former.

As for Chief of Staff? Please. Block isn’t remotely qualified to do that job. Only a complete naif like Obama or Perry would think a campaign manager would make a decent chief of staff. Chief of Staff is a COO position, Campaign Manager is a CMO/CSO. Way different.

northdallasthirty on November 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM

CBS Atlanta: Cain passes voice stress analysis, Bialek fails on key point.

TedInATL on November 10, 2011 at 10:57 AM

I love ya Ed and Allah too. Heck, I’ll even admit to liking Eric E. But this thing where bloggers announce a campaign has to do this or that … really?

What especially gets me is the TV wizards dismissive tones about Cain. How many have I heard say, “Cain is not going to win, he was never going to win.” Again, really? The voters have no say so?

Bloggers and pundits have a role to play. That’s why I read them and listen to them. But when they move into the realm of all-knowing — this MUST happen — look out.

MaxMBJ on November 10, 2011 at 10:57 AM

I would like to ask Ed Morrissey, just who are these geniuses and professional that could do better than what Mark Block and Cain’s staff have done with his campaign thus far?

milemarker2020 on November 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

It was you! You were that smartass little boy who said the emperor has no clothes.

Glad to meet you. You aren’t alone.

platypus on November 10, 2011 at 10:57 AM

I am sure Newt’s camp is celebrating this news.

Also, I am sure there are some people who jumped from Team Newt to Rick Perry who are regretting their decision.

bw222 on November 10, 2011 at 10:58 AM

So Mr Cain – Where is the executive competence? Can we expect to see the same sort of responses if you get to the WH?

antisocial on November 10, 2011 at 10:58 AM

I love it when the Perrybots trip up and reveal the problem.

At the very least – Cain should come out and denounce Mark Block’s comments about Curt Anderson and offer a public apology to Curt Anderson and Rick Perry for fingering them for leaking the Politico story.

The fact that neither Cain nor Block wants to apologize for this grievous smear – says TONS about their CHARACTER.

Followed by:

And – you can bet the day Perry drops out of this race – he’ll have some sweet and “choice” words for Cain. You can bet Perry will work behind the scenes to destroy Cain and good on him if he does that!

HondaV65 on November 10, 2011 at 10:54 AM

So the Perrybots are screaming about Cain “smearing” their candidate by saying that Perry is trying to destroy him — while simultaneously admitting that Perry is trying to destroy Cain and that Perry supporters are endorsing and supporting exactly that.

Gads, you people are stupid. Can’t Perry buy some better supporters, or are they in Mittens-money territory cost-wise.

northdallasthirty on November 10, 2011 at 10:59 AM

I agree, but Cain’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. If he fires Block, it’s gonna make matters worse for him with the mainstream media. And like it or not, they’re still out to get Cain, so the last thing he needs to do is give them more ammo which firing one’s campaign manager would most certainly do.

The best move might be to just keep Block out of the picture from this point forward. And bring in additional help particularly in the early primary states.

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Doughboy, your comments are always so reasonable and make so much sense. I think YOU should be his campaign manager! : )

parteagirl on November 10, 2011 at 10:59 AM

As for Chief of Staff? Please. Block isn’t remotely qualified to do that job. Only a complete naif like Obama or Perry would think a campaign manager would make a decent chief of staff. Chief of Staff is a COO position, Campaign Manager is a CMO/CSO. Way different.

northdallasthirty on November 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM

Yeah, people need to chill out about that. No way in hell does Block end up Chief of Staff in a Cain Administration. Did Obama let David Plouffe or David Axelrod(yes, THAT David Axelrod!) run his White House when he got there? No, he brought in a Beltway veteran and had those other two stooges behind the scenes doing their thing.

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 11:00 AM

MaxMBJ on November 10, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Are you saying Mark is an asset to Cain Team? If yes then Cain campaign deserves what it is getting.

antisocial on November 10, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Thanks for making my point.

katy the mean old lady on November 10, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Katy, unless you are taking the position that the last two weeks have been good for Herman Cain, that’s exactly how this should have been handled. Maybe not accusing another campaign of it… but get the story out there early, when nobody really gave a damn.

Once again, assuming those documents at the NRA are as innocuous as ol’ Herm claims.

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 11:00 AM

You can bet Perry will work behind the scenes to destroy Cain and good on him if he does that!

HondaV65 on November 10, 2011 at 10:54 AM

If he does it later, than he will do it now… go talk to the Witness Wilson.

kringeesmom on November 10, 2011 at 11:01 AM

No. Cain will not be dictated to by the Beltway. This is why the Beltway crowd that Ed Morrissey, it seems, would love to join, can’t get over the fact they can’t control Cain. Again, the things Ed is complaining about are small potatoes.

And the professionals? How have they done? You mean like the geniuses that ran the McCain campaign in 2008? Or Ed Rollins who ran Michelle Bachmann’s campaign? Or those who were with Newt in the summer and try to sabotaged his campaign in favor of Rick Perry? Or those geniuses around Rick Perry now who can’t seem to get him ready for debates? Or the Romney crew that can’t seem to get him out of the low 20s in the polls?

I would like to ask Ed Morrissey, just who are these geniuses and professional that could do better than what Mark Block and Cain’s staff have done with his campaign thus far?

milemarker2020 on November 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

I just thought that post was worth repeating.

DaydreamBeliever on November 10, 2011 at 11:03 AM

Doughboy, your comments are always so reasonable and make so much sense. I think YOU should be his campaign manager! : )

parteagirl on November 10, 2011 at 10:59 AM

Heh, I wouldn’t last 24 hours in an environment like that. I don’t know how these candidates and their staffers handle the garbage that comes their way from the media as well as rival campaigns.

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 11:04 AM

But I’m also not real impressed by the finger-wagging tone taken here. Ed, and Erick Erickson, how does this grab you: Cain is his own man and can do whatever he wants. He doesn’t answer to pundits.

Missy on November 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM

There’s been a lot of finger wagging about Herman Cain here in the past week. And Erick Erickson the big Perry supporter has time to criticize Cain?

BTW, I was home all day yesterday and had Fox News on and didn’t hear this mentioned one time. Not once.

Today the only news I’m hearing is the Rick Perry brain fart and the Penn State/Joe Paterno firing and the riots afterwards.

Knucklehead on November 10, 2011 at 11:04 AM

I agree, but Cain’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. If he fires Block, it’s gonna make matters worse for him with the mainstream media. And like it or not, they’re still out to get Cain, so the last thing he needs to do is give them more ammo which firing one’s campaign manager would most certainly do.

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Think about this the way He-who-shall-not-be-named-at-HotAir talks about budget cutting and liquidation of bad debt.

It’s gonna hurt in the short term… its gonna hurt real bad. But when the pain subsides, it’ll be over.

You keep on this same path, and the problems are going to get worse. It’s not like it gets any easier from here on out. The longer he puts off the inevitable (and yeah, inevitably, Mark Block has to go), the more he looks like a chump when the time comes.

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 11:05 AM

Yup. Cain is smart enough to recognize that there’s a whole gaggle of Perry supporters out there right now reeling from last night and desperate for something, anything to let them jump on the mean black man who hurt their Perry — not to mention a wounded media watching their unimpeachable sources turning into serial gold-diggers and complainers.

northdallasthirty on November 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM

Keep chokin’ that chicken, Jesse.

a capella on November 10, 2011 at 11:07 AM

Knucklehead on November 10, 2011 at 11:04 AM

What are you, some fan of reality?

platypus on November 10, 2011 at 11:08 AM

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 10:37 AM

THIS!

lovingmyUSA on November 10, 2011 at 11:10 AM

“CBS Atlanta: Cain passes voice stress analysis, Bialek fails on key point. TedInAT”

Whoa! This is very interesting. Very interesting.

MaxMBJ on November 10, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Cain decision to keep Block proves that he;s severely lacking in the character department.
Btw: when is Herb gonna apologize to Perry for falsely accusing him of being the one who leaked things to politico?
*crickets*

annoyinglittletwerp on November 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM

I agree with Doughboy. No one (other that us political junkies) really is paying attention at this point. I don’t see this hurting Cain, unless Block says something else stupid. If Cain is smart, he will move Block to the back burner. This is his campaign anyways and it needs to be about the candidate, “Herman Cain”, not Mark Block.

Scorched_Earth on November 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM

I agree with Ed, what I am picking up on is there are a series of candidates, that are not ready for prime time. Likability not withstanding, because I like Cain, and just like Perry, that can only carry a candidate so far, and then they have to have something substantial to offer their supporters to hang their hats on. Neither of these campaigns seem to be aware that they are running out of road. The Iowa Caucasus is coming up, it’s not like this is a far off event on the horizon. Cain needs to be seen as a person who can make adjustments when they are warranted. Block isn’t behaving as a plus to his campaign anymore, he’s acting like anvil.

Dr Evil on November 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Aren’t we on Obama’s case for sticking with Holder? What’s the diff. Keeping an incompetent on your staff doesn’t exactly show me any leadership ability and I doubt Cain would stick with Block if this was in the corporate world.

Kissmygrits on November 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM

You can bet Perry will work behind the scenes to destroy Cain and good on him if he does that!

HondaV65 on November 10, 2011 at 10:54 AM

Your sick fantasies really speak volumes about you. I’m amazed you had the gall to pretend you really cared what the truth was about Cain.

MadisonConservative on November 10, 2011 at 11:18 AM

I have no doubt that Cain is innocent of all these phony charges.

But not getting rid of Block is dumb. Who was behind Cain’s immediately blaming Perry for these harassment attacks? If it was Block – he needs to go.

Who was behind Cain saying that Perry going to the “n___head” camp was racist? If it was Block – he needs to go.

Some one is giving him some very bad advise and I’d bet it is Block. And that smoking ad is just beyond stupid. I predict if Block stays, Cain is done after the Iowa caucus.

stenwin77 on November 10, 2011 at 11:18 AM

Think about this the way He-who-shall-not-be-named-at-HotAir talks about budget cutting and liquidation of bad debt.

It’s gonna hurt in the short term… its gonna hurt real bad. But when the pain subsides, it’ll be over.

You keep on this same path, and the problems are going to get worse. It’s not like it gets any easier from here on out. The longer he puts off the inevitable (and yeah, inevitably, Mark Block has to go), the more he looks like a chump when the time comes.

JohnGalt23 on November 10, 2011 at 11:05 AM

You’re comparing a political campaign to real world economics. In the former, the standard rule is “politics is perception”. Yes, firing Block would be a good managerial decision by Cain. But within the world of politics, it looks like a campaign in confusion and disarray. And the media will seize on that and run with. And I don’t just mean the left-wing media either. Plenty of conservatives will do likewise.

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 11:19 AM

And NBC should fire David Gregory for his racist comment…

d1carter on November 10, 2011 at 11:19 AM

All I am saying is I am going to cut Mark Block some slack because of the smear campaign orchestrated against the Cain campaign. Up until the cigarette ad, which turned out to be great for their campaign, no one knew the good work Mark Block was doing for Cain. Cain knows this and appreciates it.

Prior to Cain’s arrival to the top tier, where were all of these pundits giving advice to Cain as to what he should or should not do? And yet, Cain has managed to get to the top of the polls and remain there without their sage advice.

So excuse me, if I agree with Cain that people like Ed Morrissey and Eric Erickson should buzz off, because they had nothing to do with Cain’s success. In both cases, they are working against Cain. Would you take advice from people who want you to fail?

milemarker2020 on November 10, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Cain’s campaign is a glorified book tour. Block is the perfect person to run it. I don’t care what the polls say today, this is not a serious campaign or candidate.

My prediction is Romney is the nominee, Rubio is his running mate and they win in November 2012. Romney is no where near ideal but he can beat Obama. That is the most important thing.

JDH on November 10, 2011 at 11:21 AM

a capella on November 10, 2011 at 11:07 AM

Yeah, this isn’t cool…competitive passion in supporting one’s candidate shouldn’t go to this level because Herman Cain happens to be black. As it is, you can’t see the race behind the comment, but I’d wager the vast majority of Cain’s staunchest defenders are white Conservative men.

RepubChica on November 10, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Yup. Cain is smart enough to recognize that there’s a whole gaggle of Perry supporters out there right now reeling from last night and desperate for something, anything to let them jump on the mean black man who hurt their Perry — not to mention a wounded media watching their unimpeachable sources turning into serial gold-diggers and complainers.

northdallasthirty on November 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM

You caught me. My alarm went off this morning and the first thought that came into my mind was “How can I slam that mean black main Cain today”. Heck I hit the snooze button just so I could plan my strategy for the day.

Get a freaking life and stop with the racist crap.

gophergirl on November 10, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Missy on November 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM

ditto, have to admit I also had the same reaction to Edward Morrisey’s column in RCP yesterday. Gettin’ kinda preachy around here sometimes. In the same vein as MM only attacking GOP contenders. I guess this is supposed to serve as vetting.

DanMan on November 10, 2011 at 11:22 AM

I’m not very confident in Cain as a candidate. But I’m also not real impressed by the finger-wagging tone taken here. Ed, and Erick Erickson, how does this grab you: Cain is his own man and can do whatever he wants. He doesn’t answer to pundits.

Missy on November 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM

Thanks. I wrote something like this a couple of times and deleted them figuring, why bother? When did we get to be so persnickety and self-important? We’re not much better than the OWS or Penn State protesters shouting, “I want what I want and I want it now!”

If I smoked, I’d blow a puff in the general direction of bloggers, pundits and fellow posters. I think I am finally getting tired of politics.

Fallon on November 10, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Cain decision to keep Block proves that he;s severely lacking in the character department.
Btw: when is Herb gonna apologize to Perry for falsely accusing him of being the one who leaked things to politico?
*crickets*

annoyinglittletwerp on November 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM

I do wish he’d apologize to Perry. That’s the biggest mistake he’s made in this whole episode. In fact, Perry kinda glared at Cain during his response to the question about the allegations if you go back and watch the clip(it’s the shot where Romney and Perry are starting at Cain).

Doughboy on November 10, 2011 at 11:23 AM

gophergirl on November 10, 2011 at 11:22 AM

I’m on my way out the door-I just looove Wal-mart. loL-but you go girl!!

annoyinglittletwerp on November 10, 2011 at 11:24 AM

gophergirl on November 10, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Dammit, that was good…

AND ND–CUT OUT THE RACIST CRAP! I’m a Caniac–and I’m getting tired of your crap…

lovingmyUSA on November 10, 2011 at 11:27 AM

Good. It will hasten the end of the Herman Cain for President charade!

huckleberryfriend on November 10, 2011 at 11:28 AM

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