Holder to call for tighter gun control in Fast & Furious testimony tomorrow

posted at 9:58 pm on November 7, 2011 by Allahpundit

Why not? We pay for having a terrible federal government every day. Why should this be any different just because it involves lost rights instead of lost money?

Seriously, though, having Obama’s AG mumble about more gun regulation in front of a mic will accomplish two things. One: It’s bound to worry all sorts of swing-state gun owners in Pennsylvania and Ohio once word of his testimony gets around, which is all to the good for election day next year. Two: The more gun owners perk up about Holder’s testimony, the more public interest there’s bound to be in Fast & Furious. And hey — there actually is room for a smart new gun law here if Congress is willing to take it up. I call it the “DOJ Shouldn’t Walk Guns to Psychotic Mexican Drug Cartels Act of 2011.” The text reads, in full, “The DOJ shouldn’t walk guns to psychotic Mexican drug cartels.”

I’m thinking that would be a party-line vote in the House.

“Today, I would like to correct some of the inaccurate — and irresponsible — accusations surrounding Fast and Furious,” Holder’s prepared testimony reads. “Some of the overheated rhetoric might lead you to believe that this local, Arizona-based operation was somehow the cause of the epidemic of gun violence in Mexico. In fact, Fast and Furious was a flawed response to, not the cause of, the flow of illegal guns from the United States into Mexico.”

In his testimony, Holder also advocates for new gun-control laws that he says would have halted, or at least prevented, Operation Fast and Furious. Holder echoes California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s comments from last week, when she argued that stricter gun laws would have stopped law enforcement agents from facilitating the sale of guns to Mexican drug cartels.

“Unfortunately, earlier this year the House of Representatives actually voted to keep law enforcement in the dark when individuals purchase multiple semi-automatic rifles and shotguns in Southwest border gun shops,” Holder’s written testimony declares. “Providing law enforcement with the tools to detect and disrupt illegal gun trafficking is entirely consistent with the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens and it is critical to addressing the public safety crisis on the Southwest border.”

The idea that we need to regulate the wider population more tightly in order to prevent catastrophically moronic operations by the feds gives me a warm glow deep in my libertarian heart. And I do mean catastrophic: Watch this new clip from ace CBS reporter Sharyl Atkisson updating the death toll from gunwalking. It’s not just Brian Terry.

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I saw a NRA commercial today on CNN (it’s what is on at work) and it was calling for the firing of Eric Holder.
I say, that does not go far enough. Fire him, and then prosecute him.

carbon_footprint on November 7, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Meerkats are indignant.
(Royalties to Schadenfreude.)

carbon_footprint on November 7, 2011 at 10:01 PM

Shameless.

Rational Thought on November 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM

If the liberal media put forth 1/10th of the effort they are investing in the Cain saga into Fast and Furious, our country would be better off.
That is asking a lot though.
May they all burn in f*cking hell.

carbon_footprint on November 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM

I hope he says, “If the events of the past year have proven anything, it’s that we need stricter gun control in this country.
Why just look at the death and destruction I, personally, was able to wreak on the world. Someone should have stopped me.”

cynccook on November 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM

I agree. We need to keep guns out of the hands of the ATF and DOJ. They’re killing innocent people with them.

JellyToast on November 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM

carbon_footprint on November 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM

Well said. +10.

Dopenstrange on November 7, 2011 at 10:04 PM

In his testimony, Holder also advocates for new gun-control laws that he says would have halted, or at least prevented, Operation Fast and Furious.

What a lying sack of shit!

Holder’s minions VIOLATED existing laws when they allowed straw purchases to be made.

Holder and his buddies need to see the inside of a federal prison!

GarandFan on November 7, 2011 at 10:04 PM

We can have tighter gun control if we get rid of the present Attorney General.

eaglewingz08 on November 7, 2011 at 10:05 PM

I say, that does not go far enough. Fire him, and then prosecute him.

carbon_footprint on November 7, 2011 at 10:00 PM

I agree. They want to hang George Bush. Prosecute them! they have broken laws and need to be made examples of.
Just letting them off is insane! It is saying that you can break all kinds of laws if you work in the government and all that will ever happen is you will lose your job. Big freaking deal!

JellyToast on November 7, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Allah—–you are just messing with us right? Please tell me this ain’t The Onion.

arnold ziffel on November 7, 2011 at 10:07 PM

I say we have tighter treason control.

SouthernGent on November 7, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Just because the whole Fast and Furious program kind of blew up in their face is no reason to scrap the endgame….. Come out strong for gun control and hope the media carries the ball for you.

Koa on November 7, 2011 at 10:07 PM

So, he is back to the original plan…

d1carter on November 7, 2011 at 10:09 PM

It makes me mad the things they have wanted to do to President Bush! Didn’t Holder want to prosecute him for war crimes? And what has Holder done? Holder is the one who should be prosecuted!

JellyToast on November 7, 2011 at 10:09 PM

Come out strong for gun control and hope know the media carries will carry the ball for you.

Koa on November 7, 2011 at 10:07 PM

FIFY

Rational Thought on November 7, 2011 at 10:09 PM

Huh.

He’s actually going to say this? In front of people who are allowed to question him?

This should be good.

Scott H on November 7, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Holder is a criminal and should be treated as such. I’m thinking 20 to life would be a good start.

Free Online Dictionary:

1. Of, involving, or having the nature of crime: criminal abuse.
2. Relating to the administration of penal law.
3.
a. Guilty of crime.
b. Characteristic of a criminal.
4. Shameful; disgraceful: a criminal waste of talent.

I bolded #4 and it is obvious; the rest probably apply and I hope for a jury trial to determine the facts.

GnuBreed on November 7, 2011 at 10:10 PM

“Some of the overheated rhetoric might lead you to believe that this local, Arizona-based operation …”

Issa should stop him right there and then ask how the program was budgeted with SURPLUS money through the White House…

… and how could a local, Arizona-based operation give orders to the ATF, the DHS, the FBI, the CIA, and bipass the need for written authorization from the State Department.

Oops…!

Seven Percent Solution on November 7, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Is he really that F’ing dumb ? Can’t wait to see how he handles the inevitable questions he’ll get over that one.

Its not like its difficult to lay out just a few simple points about this and then ask, “And the answer to this problem, where you forced gun shops to sell guns to criminals and then did nothing while they waltzed across the border to be used to murder some 200 people, is to have tighter gun laws, so the ATF can then circumvent those laws as well ?

I really don’t think these fools have thought through this.

And really poor job of trying to hide the fact that this was always an operation designed to gin up support for gun laws.

deadrody on November 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM

I don’t know what to say. It’s hard to believe the Attorney General of the United States of America is this clueless.

SlaveDog on November 7, 2011 at 10:13 PM

How about tighter border control…

Electrongod on November 7, 2011 at 10:13 PM

How is more gun control going to stop a federal sting or program or whatever you want to call this fiasco?

Cindy Munford on November 7, 2011 at 10:14 PM

he lied about the rich pardon.
he lied about the nbpp.
he’s lying about the this.

he erred deeply on ksm…

the guy is a freakin piece of crap.

reliapundit on November 7, 2011 at 10:14 PM

“I call it the “DOJ Shouldn’t Walk Guns to Psychotic Mexican Drug Cartels Act of 2011.” The text reads, in full, “The DOJ shouldn’t walk guns to psychotic Mexican drug cartels.”

And this is why I love reading your commentary.

XWing5 on November 7, 2011 at 10:14 PM

I call it the “DOJ Shouldn’t Walk Guns to Psychotic Mexican Drug Cartels Act of 2011.” The text reads, in full, “The DOJ shouldn’t walk guns to psychotic Mexican drug cartels.”

To which I would add: “And the money for these programs designed to undermine the nation’s Second Amendment rights should not come from stimulus funds purportedly designed to improve our economy.”

onlineanalyst on November 7, 2011 at 10:14 PM

So Holder has no problem arming the drug cartels and now he wants to take away the only protection American citizens have against the drug cartels?

canditaylor68 on November 7, 2011 at 10:14 PM

No one can accuse this administration of being timid. When caught with their hands in the cookie jar, they go large and demand a larger cookie jar.

Nixon totally screwed up, what he should have said in reaction to the Watergate break-in was that it was evidence of the need by the government for broader authority to conduct surveillance on its opposition. If the opposition had provided the information burgled in the first place or had the government been able to obtain it through normal covert means, the crime wouldn’t have taken place.

Prosecute Holder, impeach Obama, and I don’t know what can be done with Senator Dumbass Feinstein. She’s too stupid to be a Senator, but the morons in California keep electing her. Although they get what they deserve, the rest of the country suffers for it as well.

AZfederalist on November 7, 2011 at 10:15 PM

The text reads, in full, “The DOJ shouldn’t walk guns to psychotic Mexican drug cartels.”

It needs one more line: “Violation of this Act will result in a mandatory 100 year sentence for the sitting Attorney General in a Mexican prison.”

Pablo on November 7, 2011 at 10:15 PM

I’m pretty sure that prosecuting Holder and locking him up for years would also have prevented OF&F, and we could do it with a much smaller price tag.

Seriously, I can’t believe the Dems think this is a good idea. Gun control is unpopular, it’s cost them elections in the past. Why would they do things to make themselves more unpopular?

Do they have some trick up their collective sleeves for next November?

PetecminMd on November 7, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Excellent. It’ll guarantee Obama doesn’t serve a second term, unless by some amazing miracle he sacks Holder.

MadisonConservative on November 7, 2011 at 10:16 PM

In his testimony, Holder also advocates for new gun-control laws that he says would have halted, or at least prevented, Operation Fast and Furious.

Putting the Gun Running Merchant of Death, Eric Holder in prison, preferable a Mexican one, would work a lot better.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on November 7, 2011 at 10:18 PM

I hope before Holder speaks a word…

… they put him under oath.

Seven Percent Solution on November 7, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Maybe Charlie Sheen will tell us that the real promiscuity problem in this country is that women are allowed to walk around in public. Same logic.

RBMN on November 7, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Stricter gun control was the whole reason for Fast & Furious.

Operation Fast and Furious: Designed to Promote Gun Control

cynccook on November 7, 2011 at 10:22 PM

The first act of the newly elected Republican president should be to fire Mr. Holder.

TimBuk3 on November 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM

O.K. this is so Orwellian it makes my head hurt …. Lets see if I understand this Holder want to pass a law to stop the DOJ from running guns ….question ….don’t we already have a law against running guns and wasn’t the DOJ able to subvert those laws …. sooooo what kind of law can you pass to stop the people who run the agencies who are supposed to stop people from running guns if the people running the guns are pretty much the people who run the agencies who are supposed to stop people from running guns ….I hope this hurt someone else’s head to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKm5xQyD2vE&feature=related

Aggie95 on November 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM

I hope a family member of one of the murder victims sucker punches him in the face in front of cameras.

SirGawain on November 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Biggest threat to American Freedom and individual Liberty?

Obama

Holder

Napolitano

?

PappyD61 on November 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM

“… but the morons in California keep electing her. Although they get what they deserve, the rest of the country suffers for it as well.

AZfederalist on November 7, 2011 at 10:15 PM

Correction…

… the illegal aliens keep electing her, by directive of their Democrat handlers.

But you are right that the rest of the country will suffer for it as well when they cancel out your vote…

Seven Percent Solution on November 7, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Oh, Lord, if Holder tries to say this, I hope Issa hangs him by the jewels until he squeals.

cane_loader on November 7, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Besides:

Democratic California Sen. Dianne Feinstein told a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that lax gun control laws, not Obama administration malfeasance within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF), was the real problem uncovered by Operation Fast and Furious.

cynccook on November 7, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Holder to call for tighter gun control in Fast & Furious testimony tomorrow.

Now that was unexpected. /

coldwarrior on November 7, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Even Nero couldn’t fiddle as well as this guy.

John the Libertarian on November 7, 2011 at 10:28 PM

I’ll get banned if I say what I want to say in response to this evil, lying sack of contemptible excrement.

Midas on November 7, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Let’s face it. The only thing that would remotely shock me is if the leftist agitator actually came out and admitted he sympathized with the “brown” terrorists.

MeatHeadinCA on November 7, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Biggest threat to American Freedom and individual Liberty?

Obama

Holder

Napolitano

?

PappyD61 on November 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Quicker simply to say “liberals”.

Midas on November 7, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Democratic California Sen. Dianne Feinstein told a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that lax gun control laws, not Obama administration malfeasance within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF), was the real problem uncovered by Operation Fast and Furious.
cynccook on November 7, 2011 at 10:25 PM

This will be the media spin.

Journolist 2.0 no doubt has its marching orders already.

Wethal on November 7, 2011 at 10:33 PM

I don’t know what to say. It’s hard to believe the Attorney General of the United States of America is this clueless.

SlaveDog on November 7, 2011 at 10:13 PM

Because he’s *NOT* clueless.

Again, the sooner we all simply accept that they’re not stupid, they’re evil and working with malicious intent, the sooner we’ll get a handle on seriously addressing the problem.

Midas on November 7, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Stricter gun control was the whole reason for Fast & Furious.

Operation Fast and Furious: Designed to Promote Gun Control

cynccook on November 7, 2011 at 10:22 PM

And they were willing to see Mexicans, some innocent bystanders, slaughtered to accomplish Dem political goals.

They never thought about US border agents or the tracing back of the guns.

Their arrogance was only exceeded by their stupidity.

Wethal on November 7, 2011 at 10:35 PM

So Holder’s response to the charge that this whole tragic episode resulted from the Obama Administration’s callous, cynical, and, ultimately, deadly attempt to drum up support for more gun regulation in the US is to call for more gun regulation in the US? Got it.

Knott Buyinit on November 7, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Because he’s *NOT* clueless.

Again, the sooner we all simply accept that they’re not stupid, they’re evil and working with malicious intent, the sooner we’ll get a handle on seriously addressing the problem.

Midas on November 7, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Bravo.

Why do people think that Obama is a sniffling weakling? Well, he is, but he definitely has an agenda that shouldn’t be confused for “weakness, indecision, failure to lead,” or “stupidity.”

MeatHeadinCA on November 7, 2011 at 10:37 PM

This will be the media spin.

Journolist 2.0 no doubt has its marching orders already.

Wethal on November 7, 2011 at 10:33 PM

Make sure you read the Townhall article; it’s from July.

cynccook on November 7, 2011 at 10:37 PM

right, as we all know the whole program was cooked up in the bush administration and stopped by the messiah and his ag and now they need to fix the root of the problem by controlling guns.

/msm

r keller on November 7, 2011 at 10:38 PM

Their arrogance was only exceeded by their stupidity.

Wethal on November 7, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Well, you can’t always count on a good crisis just showing up on its own, you know. Sometimes you have to help it along.

cynccook on November 7, 2011 at 10:39 PM

Pass the Popcorn.

Del Dolemonte on November 7, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Twilight Zone has become reality…

golfmann on November 7, 2011 at 10:45 PM

The first act of the newly elected Republican president should be to fire Mr. Holder.

TimBuk3 on November 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM

He’s automatically ‘fired’ at the end of Obama’s term.

LibertarianRepublican on November 7, 2011 at 10:50 PM

The control of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms is too important to be left to idiots like Holder. He should resign, and the Federal agency should be dissolved — leave it to the states.

cthulhu on November 7, 2011 at 10:53 PM

I don’t know what to say. It’s hard to believe the Attorney General of the United States of America is this clueless.
SlaveDog on November 7, 2011 at 10:13 PM

HE’S NOT CLUELESS!

This was ALL done with Eric Holder’s full cognitive, informed approval.

HE’S AN ABSOLUTE TREASONOUS CRIMINAL WHO DESERVES THE MAXIMUM PENALTY DUE A TREASONOUS PUBLIC SERVANT, period.

listens2glenn on November 7, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Well, you can’t always count on a good crisis just showing up on its own, you know. Sometimes you have to help it along.
cynccook on November 7, 2011 at 10:39 PM

That post says everything you need to know about ‘Fast and Furious’.

listens2glenn on November 7, 2011 at 10:58 PM

I think we need tighter gun control laws dealing with Justice Dept underlings sending guns to Mexican criminals, with a hanging penalty for the DOJ head.

Chessplayer on November 7, 2011 at 10:59 PM

The first act of the newly elected Republican president should be to fire BRING CHARGES AGAINST Mr. Holder.
TimBuk3 on November 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Minor correction.

listens2glenn on November 7, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Holder’s logic is impeccable.

The U.S. government should also sell people into third world slavery to end third world slavery.

The U.S. government should sell nuclear armaments to third world courties to end nuclear armament proliferation.

This list of brilliant ideas is endless. Hey! The government could send speeding vehicles careening down the nation’s highways in an effort to end traffic violations! Send drunken government employees out onto the public streets to drive around all day in an effort to end drunken driving! …

jaime on November 7, 2011 at 11:03 PM

I was having a conversation with my brother this weekend about the arrogance of this administration, and I’ve come to believe that a conscious decision has been made by the progressives to just go full bore with their entire agenda now, in the hopes they can successfully destabilize the country enough to somehow squeak out -or otherwise rig the election in 2012.

It’s as if they know they’re completely in the wrong about this, and they simply don’t care. They’re in charge, and that’s that. They’re walking through the conservative gauntlet with blinders on, and refuse to acknowledge our existence.

As for greater gun control: you can’t completely control an armed citizenry -especially without a complicit military.

BKeyser on November 7, 2011 at 11:04 PM

If Holder actually does this, the NRA better be prepared to organize a private party investigation into Holder’s actions, with the intention to have him formally arrested by citizen arrest.
If the Federal Government is not going to defend the Constitution and the citizenry, it is up to us.

This could be the spark that starts a REAL revolution, not some dirty, naive hippies camping in the town square.

KMC1 on November 7, 2011 at 11:04 PM

As for greater gun control: you can’t completely control an armed citizenry -especially without a complicit military.

BKeyser on November 7, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Amen. : )

listens2glenn on November 7, 2011 at 11:09 PM

Holder also advocates for new gun-control laws that he says would have halted, or at least prevented, Operation Fast and Furious.

is this the “stop us before we do bad again” logic????? wtf

ted c on November 7, 2011 at 11:27 PM

Do you really believe the military will not be complicit with their lords and politcal masters ?

Sandybourne on November 7, 2011 at 11:50 PM

He’s actually going to say this? In front of people who are allowed to question him?

This should be good.

Scott H on November 7, 2011 at 10:10 PM

All on camera, too.

And if there was a Republican with brains and balls, they’d use the video clip against 0bama in their campaign ads.

But I’m not holding my breath.

UltimateBob on November 7, 2011 at 11:51 PM

“Unfortunately, earlier this year the House of Representatives actually voted to keep law enforcement in the dark when individuals purchase multiple semi-automatic rifles and shotguns in Southwest border gun shops,” Holder’s written testimony declares.

That statement is an out and out lie. Anyone who has purchased a handgun knows their name and ID is recorded in the ATF book every dealer maintains, and audits every few months. To purchase a semi auto rifle, you must clear a federal background check, and again the purchase is recorded in the ATF book kept on premesis.

Well, unless the ATF orders the dealer to sell to known criminal agents….over and over and over.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/101213-gun-dealer-atf-approved-sales-to-mexican-gun-runners

elowe on November 8, 2011 at 12:03 AM

Unhhh, Isn’t Darrell Issa a Republican. In a Republican House? Maybe this is why Daily all but resigned. IMHO this is one of the ultimate “You can’t cure stupid.” Even Bohenor will act on this. Issa has Holder where three month’s testimony was leading all along.

Since the House alone votes for articles of impeachment while the Senate sits in judgement, a credible threat should, in a rational administration, cause a pullback. Lack thereof is the end of these jerks.

teh Won will serve his one term. OWS will peter out. Even LSM cannot save this fiasco.

BTW The AG’s purpose is to cover his president’s s$$. Oboy must be up to his max in this.

Caststeel on November 8, 2011 at 12:13 AM

Shameless.

Rational Thought on November 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM

Yes, but more. It’s not merely the absence of shame, but the abomination of it.

And entirely predictable. 1. That’s the Left. 2. It’s the original reason for Fast & Furious. And 3. when the Left concocts a scheme this sinisterly subversive of such a hated liberty, they don’t revise it ANY circumstances. Why would they? They’re counting on a critical mass people never getting the full details of Fast & Furious (a good bet) nor, even if they did, of ever accepting or believing the true motives of those behind it. The very inconceivability of its wickedness is their cover. This is where we are in America now.

rrpjr on November 8, 2011 at 12:14 AM

You mean he couldn’t help himself? How has that worked for other criminals?

pat on November 8, 2011 at 12:18 AM

It’s too much for me. Can’t wait for Holder to blame lax gun laws for Fast and Furious… I’ve had all I can take for now…

sandee on November 8, 2011 at 12:19 AM

Meerkats are indignant.
(Royalties to Schadenfreude.)

carbon_footprint on November 7, 2011 at 10:01 PM

:)

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2011 at 12:21 AM

May they all burn in f*cking hell.

carbon_footprint on November 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM

Amen. Soon.

Shay on November 8, 2011 at 12:32 AM

How about we pass a law saying that legal restrictions on gun sales can only be waived by an agent of the government with the express written approval of the US Attorney General, and that, in doing so, the AG will be held criminally responsible and personally liable for any criminal acts that are a result of that decision?

Socratease on November 8, 2011 at 12:33 AM

If the Repubs don’t tear Holder apart on the stand…Oh well, maybe my fear of their cowardice is overblown.

Maybe.

PattyJ on November 8, 2011 at 12:34 AM

Undistinguished career bureaucrat.

bbhack on November 8, 2011 at 12:49 AM

May they all burn in f*cking hell.

carbon_footprint on November 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM

The least they deserve for what they’ve done to America — and what they still want to do.

rrpjr on November 8, 2011 at 12:53 AM

Holder needs to be put in a jail cell, as well as most of the administrators below him.

tx2654 on November 8, 2011 at 12:55 AM

CNBC was collecting questions for the next GOP debate.

I haven’t yet submitted one, but “Will you support extradition of Eric Holder if the Mexican government requests it?” might be a good start.

JEM on November 8, 2011 at 1:29 AM

I have never heard such hypocrisy before in my life. We need stricter Gun Laws so the law can’t do another sting like this. So now we need gun laws to control the law enforcers. Holder should be taken straight to prison, anyone that ignorant to think we will buy his POS story, I really wish he did not think the American people are as stupid as he does. We weren’t ALL raised in Chicago.

old war horse on November 8, 2011 at 1:30 AM

I agree. We need to keep guns out of the hands of the ATF and DOJ. They’re killing innocent people with them.

JellyToast on November 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM

I agree and I also vote your comment the best post tonight. You could have written a book and not said it any better.

old war horse on November 8, 2011 at 1:33 AM

Krugman will explain it. It’s like Moore’s Law for government corruption. Every 18 months integrity is reduced by half. Think of the savings! Everyone benefits. Holder is a genius. The GOP is teh hate. Think it’s easy? Here comes the scum. Nobel prize, please.

Kenosha Kid on November 8, 2011 at 1:51 AM

“We’re working on sneaking gun control in under the radar”Barack Obama, to Sarah Brady

Ryan Anthony on November 8, 2011 at 2:06 AM

So its those bad bad bitter clingers fault that the BATF gave thousands of arms to a Mexican cartel?
Arms that could only be tracked after they had been used in criminal activity. What benefit would the be?

Makes sense, in bobbleheaded liberal world of hate spew for political expediency exchange network.

Fast and Furious was a logical progression when Hillary, Holder’s and Obama’s attempts fell through to blame bitter clingers for the crates of Chinese automatic weapons coming from southern not northern suppliers.
Strange how automatic weapons weren’t coming from Americans after all.

Speakup on November 8, 2011 at 2:07 AM

Hundred bucks says Holder gets a Nixon style pardon from Obama when this is all said and done.

This is just disgusting. Our Federal Government gives guns to criminal enterprises in another country, weapons that were used to butcher thousands of people in that country (and probably here too)…and somehow, the American citizenry needs their Constitutional rights curtailed because of all this?

There is no other way of putting this: The man is not only a criminal, he’s an agent of tyranny.

If there were such a thing as justice in this world, this cretin would be spending the rest of his life in Leavenworth.

Instead, he’ll probably move on to being some sort of cushy job in the rancid halls of American academia when he leaves office, pardon in hand.

SuperCool on November 8, 2011 at 3:49 AM

Biggest threat to American Freedom and individual Liberty?

Obama

Holder

Napolitano

?

PappyD61 on November 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM

? = MSM

tinkerthinker on November 8, 2011 at 5:51 AM

As for greater gun control: you can’t completely control an armed citizenry -especially without a complicit military.

BKeyser on November 7, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Even during the Vietnam era, we recruits were specifically told that we had a duty to not obey unlawful orders. The question is will they recognize an unlawful order?

Extrafishy on November 8, 2011 at 6:02 AM

Surely Holder’s inane remark about new needed gun laws being necessary to aid law enforcement in preventing the government from facilitating straw purchases WHILE WATCHING ON CLOSED CIRCUIT TV will give committeemembers something to sink their teeth into. If they don’t make him stand up for the public shaming he deserves, and call for his removal and prosecution, THEY should be shamed.

tpitman on November 8, 2011 at 6:04 AM

Shameless.

Rational Thought on November 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM

nuff said

cmsinaz on November 8, 2011 at 6:11 AM

Why isn’t Holder in federal prison pending trial?

coldwarrior on November 8, 2011 at 6:27 AM

The dolt is insane, what in hell does more gun laws have to do with the idiotic, illegal antics of Holder’s gangster justice department? Holder is inept, incompetent and a danger to the Republic, he needs to go . . . now.

rplat on November 8, 2011 at 6:27 AM

I just cannot believe this tortured illogic. So, let’s hatch a plan to force the sale, the border transit and the distribution of weapons to Mexican cartels. Next, once those weapons are used and found in Mexico, we can surely point to their sale in the US and argue for stricter gun control laws to protect Mexicans. Now that we’ve been found out let’s argue for stricter gun control laws to protect Mexicans. Oh, by the way, lest we forget that it was we (The DOJ) that made this happen. Oh and let’s also forget that there are hundreds of dead Mexicans and 2 dead federal agents littering the path to us controlling guns…..

Lord, Please pave the way for the truth to be revealed today. Amen

ted c on November 8, 2011 at 7:00 AM

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