It’s happening: Democratic lawmakers say Fast and Furious proof of need for harsher gun laws

posted at 6:25 pm on November 5, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Right on cue, Democratic lawmakers have begun to say the DOJ’s lethal and irresponsible Fast and Furious program underscores the need for stricter gun control laws:

“This hunt for blame doesn’t really speak about the problem,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein at a recent Senate Judiciary hearing while discussing Fast and Furious.

“And the problem is, anybody can walk in and buy anything, .50-caliber weapons, sniper weapons, buy them in large amounts, and send them down to Mexico. So, the question really becomes, what do we do about this?”

The ranking Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Rep. Elijah Cummings (Md.), and Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) have introduced a dedicated firearms trafficking statute, but it has stalled in the House Judiciary Committee.

Republicans rightly have pushed back against this narrative. Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) put it best when he said simply, “I get it, I’d want to change the subject too if I were them. I’m happy to have a conversation about broader gun laws, but we’re going to do it after Fast and Furious.”

What’s most troubling about Democrats’ predictable call for tightening of regulations is that it does nothing to dispel the theory that Fast and Furious was orchestrated precisely to “prove” the need to clamp down on gun sellers and purchasers. Rather, it lends credence to the idea.

Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) recently explained:

This not only raises serious questions about your ability to serve as the head of the Justice Department, but also begs the question of why an anti-gun Administration would knowingly force licensed firearms dealers to sell guns to violent criminals. I raise this because Operation Fast and Furious — if the facts of this case had not come to light — would have been used by this Administration as another false argument to attack law-abiding American gun owners.

The American people deserve to know if your Department had any intent to link the legal purchase of firearms here in the U.S. to crimes committed near our southern border. Operation Fast and Furious funneled firearms legally purchased at gun shops in the U.S. to known criminal syndicates to prove these syndicates have access to legal purchased weapons. This is a deliberate attempt to vilify and attack the millions of gun owners in America who value our Second Amendment and have never broken the law.

Walsh made the assumption that the administration would not be able to use OF&F as a support for greater gun control because “the facts of this case [have] come to light.” But, unfortunately, the facts have reached only those who’ve consciously followed the case. Fast and Furious has still largely been ignored by the mainstream media — and, when news outlets like CNN do cover it, it’s frequently with an administration-friendly spin.

Reminder: This operation resulted in the deaths of at least 200 Mexicans and at least 11 violent crimes in the U.S. The program intentionally funneled firearms into the hands of straw purchasers, and the operation’s architects made no apparent attempt to track the weapons. Officials still can’t account for more than 1,000 weapons. We don’t need new gun control laws: We need responsible Justice officials who would never allow ideology and political purposes to tempt them to implement a dangerous and disastrous program.

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I don’t mean to sound smug, but I called this Fast & Furious business for what it was from the beginning: an attempt to give proof to the lie that the US is the source of most of the weaponry employed by the drug cartels and other criminal and political extremist organizations, and give weight to more stringent gun control legislation and regulatory restrictions.

Ace of Ace of Spades called this the ‘Big Theory’ and wouldn’t ascribe to it because it was, well, too big and too criminal even for the Holder Justice Department. Hundreds of people are dead, after all, and the implication is the Holder DOJ wanted them dead, wanted as much bloodshed as possible in order to bolster the efforts of the anti-gun lobby in the US.

Of course, all of this begs the bigger question: why is the Left so determined to circumvent the 2nd Amendment, to essentially disarm the American populace? The statistics the Left is so fond of citing when promoting their pet causes don’t support their argument for more restrictive gun laws. Those cities with the greatest restrictions on gun ownership and carry are those with the greatest gun crime rates.

The Left isn’t invested in this issue to save lives. They’re in it because guns are not just symbols of power. Guns are power. They know if, for example, a certain far-left Democratic Administration attempted to suspend elections in order to, say, maintain majorities in Congress, millions of private citizens with the means to resist would ensure those elections took place, one way or the other.

The American Left is authoritarian and elitist to the core. They envy the technocrats of Beijing and the bureaucrats of Brussels, who can make sweeping, top-down policy decisions unhindered by a pesky, know-nothing electorate. So no, these aren’t the traditional Truman or JFK Democrats who actually loved freedom and hated socialism. These are old-school Reds, and if they’re willing to engineer the murder of over 200 people (and counting), they’re capable of anything.

troyriser_gopftw on November 6, 2011 at 11:37 AM

troyriser_gopftw on November 6, 2011 at 11:37 AM

Amen, Brother. This is a no longer overt, no longer insidious effort to deliberately impose the rule of the few.

TinMan13 on November 6, 2011 at 12:30 PM

So in Chicago, only the crooks have concealed guns????

fred5678 on November 6, 2011 at 6:26 AM


Solaratov on November 6, 2011 at 12:37 PM

“And the problem is, anybody can walk in and buy anything, .50-caliber weapons, sniper weapons, buy them in large amounts, and send them down to Mexico.”

Liar, you have to be a Federal Agent to do that, and to compel law-abiding citizens to aid and abet you in doing it by threatening to take away their right to operate a legitimate business. How is this different from a mob shakedown?

“So, the question really becomes, what do we do about this?”

I don’t know who you think “we” is, but I think I know what the voters are going to do about this, come next November.

drunyan8315 on November 6, 2011 at 12:47 PM

It is merely pure proof that the nation’s politicians can never be trusted with controlling our guns.

The wisdom of our forefathers shines truer every day. The moral and political corruption of our nation also becomes clearer every day when half the people would foolishly wish to make themselves vulnerable to a government which clearly seeks to control every aspect of their lives.

The problem(?) It is our freedom they also endanger with their hellbent rush to freedom’s suicide.

Don L on November 6, 2011 at 1:36 PM

One ,ore far more important thought…. If they don’t hesitate to illegaly kill people in two nations, in order to take our guns away —how many more will they kill after oue guns are taken away?

Why is it not one candidate is asking that simplist of all questions of the president who alone argued to kill fully human defensless human life outside of the womb.

Is there any sane man or woman out there that doubts their utter disregard for life -and that they will take whatever life is inconvenient to their agenda-at any age?

Don L on November 6, 2011 at 2:55 PM

“This hunt for blame doesn’t really speak about the problem,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein at a recent Senate Judiciary hearing while discussing Fast and Furious.

Never on time Feinstein, the guns have already left the barn. Your druggies have already killed. No need to “hunt”. You are “treed” with no retreat. You forgot, again, that others have memories and these memories are now the hounds that have you whimpering.

Caststeel on November 6, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Don L on November 6, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Bill Ayers himself answered that question for you:
“About 25 million.”

Think about that for half a second. A guy who has this Presidents ear at any time he wishes, thinks, and has publicly stated that 25 Million Americans need to be killed in order to solidly found his UTOPIA.

Now, I am heartened to read last week on more than one article, that a lot of people correctly identify the problem, and have posed several solutions to it.

I am heartened also to hear about people who would take up arms in order to ensure fair elections occur. This is completely within everyone Constitutional responsibility to do, arms by any means to ensure fair elections.

orbitalair on November 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM

orbitalair on November 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM

Bill Ayres forgot to specify that most of that 25M would be D’rats. Kinda a Darwin result.

I’m an old man, not yet worn out but not what he once was. Somehow this Messiah of a pResident has me going to the range with my new toys. Beware of old men who have little left to fear.

Caststeel on November 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Proof offered for 2nd Amendment-busting intent of Fast & Furious

The majority of weapons transferred under Fast and Furious have been semi-automatic rifles of the AK and AR types with a few .50 caliber Barrett (BMG) rifles and FN (Five-SeveN) pistols thrown in for good measure.

Yet as popular as these AK and AR rifles are to gun buyers in the United States, Mexican gangs have virtually NO INTEREST in them at all! Fully automatic or selective-fire AK rifles are available to cartels on the black market for about $100, far less than the purchase price of the semi-auto version in US gun stores.

And as for the AR models, “…cartels raid armories and buy selective-fire M-16 and M-4 rifles from deserting or corrupt Mexican military members for far less than the semi-auto rifles finding their way to cartels with federal government assistance…”

So why did Operation Fast and Furious offer drug gangs so many firearms they did not want or need? Because these are the weapons marked for extinction by American gun grabbers throughout the nation.

Colbyjack on November 6, 2011 at 8:03 PM

First, jail the AG for felony gunrunning under CURRENT law, and everyone else who knew this was going on and did nothing, even if (especially if) it’s the President himself. THEN we’ll talk about if we need more laws.

They did it on purpose, and got hundreds of people murdered. To say we need more gun laws while the Justice Department from the President on down that caused the problem DELIBERATELY are still in office and doing their criminal thing, is a preposterously unmitigated show of intolerable, arrogant gall.

This has to be screamed from the rooftops, by every Republican, EVERY TIME this comes up.

Dirty Creature on November 7, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Interesting, Tina. Nobody mentioned the approx. 3.6 million guns bought (most of them new) since teh Won assumed the D’rat nomination. Nor about the 4 billion civilian rounds sold in the same time.

That’s the practical hurdle. The political hurdle is two SCOUS decisions affirming 2nd Amendment as an individual right.

F&F is a scandal as stupid as it is far fetched. A script even Hollywood would not buy. So Feinstein, the most reliable and safest lib on this subject gets to parrot a few more lies. The rest of us keep our ammo dry and guns clean. And polish our skills, too.

Caststeel on November 7, 2011 at 3:28 PM

You know, if women all wore burqas, sexual harassment and rapes should go down. Expect Keith Ellison to propose it.

lonestar1 on November 7, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Obama is a SCOAMF and his minions are criminals. It’s easy to accept once you get past the notion that our system wouldn’t allow this.

Extrafishy on November 8, 2011 at 6:29 AM