Down twinkles: Occupier now occupying jail cell for $10M arson

posted at 1:30 pm on November 5, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Another week of peaceful protesters bringing their succinct message of hope and change to the oppressive forces of capitalism and despotic tyranny has come and gone. Lots of attention has been focused on the activities taking place in New York and Oakland, but Friday brought us news from yet another drum circle gathering, this time in Fort Collins, Colorado. Let’s check in and see what sort of announcements are coming in over the human microphone network, shall we?

Police have arrested an Occupy Fort Collins protester in connection with a $10 million arson fire that damaged dozens of condominiums and businesses in Fort Collins.

Benjamin David Gilmore, 29, was arrested on Thursday night on suspicion of arson, burglary and criminal mischief.

On Oct. 24, a fire started at 3:30 a.m. in a four-story apartment complex under construction. The fire spread to the occupied Penny Flats condominium and retail building next door.

The fire at Penny Flats caused heavy fire damage to the fourth floor and roof, and heavy smoke and water damage to the first, second and third floors, according to Poudre Fire Authority spokesman Patrick Love.

Gilmore showed up in court and reportedly “broke down in tears” when telling the judge that he just wanted to go home with his wife. The judge, apparently not familiar with the trials and tribulations of the put upon 99%, promptly set bail at one quarter million dollars… cash only, please. The accused apparently hadn’t come up with that kind of spare change, and was promptly returned to jail.

The protesters were quick to point out that this one, scurrilous individual clearly shouldn’t be associated with the larger movement as a whole. Gilmore? Benjamin Gilmore? Hmmm… doesn’t ring a bell.

“He may have stopped by the protest, but he is in no way a direct relation to our movement,” said protester Julia Crisafi. “We are peaceful protesters.”

Demonstrating the spot on, well coordinated messaging for which the movement has become famous, some other occupiers quickly echoed that sentiment. Or… maybe not.

Gilmore Well Known At Occupy Fort Collins

Gilmore joined the Occupy Fort Collins movement in mid-October.

“He showed up on the 3rd or 4th day,” said Rich Crisler, who identified himself as the media coordinator for Occupy Fort Collins.

Crisler said he doesn’t believe Gilmore started the fire.

“He had no reason to do this,” Crisler said. “They’re [investigators] just looking for a scapegoat.”

Crisler said Gilmore owns a honey business. Crisler said Gilmore is very kind, soft-spoken and wants to help people.

Well, if the charges are proven true at trial, he’s certainly helping motivate some renters and business owners to find new locations. And as a bonus, he’s probably going to save or create any number of jobs as workers attempt to clean up, repair and replace the badly damaged real estate.

Way to keep up that positive public image, folks!

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Tea Partiers are the real threat still. Don’t let these unfair characterizations of the valient OWSers fool you, Fellow Travelers./

(These stupids fracks are going to get people killed)

hawkdriver on November 5, 2011 at 1:36 PM

I’m extremely tired of people claiming these people are peaceful and making excuses for them. Bill O’Reilly says it started out that way (maybe for a day or two)but it has been taken over by every far leftist group imaginable. Why do the taxpayers have to foot the bill for the destruction they do? This goes way beyond “free speech” rights.

silvernana on November 5, 2011 at 1:38 PM

If I were Israel I would error on the side of caution and assume that anything I told the Obama regime would probably be relayed to Iran.

FloatingRock on November 5, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Sorry, wrong thread.

FloatingRock on November 5, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Gee, guess this means Benny-baby can’t participate in Bank Transfer Day today, huh? Hey, thems the breaks!

pilamaye on November 5, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Eric Holder will be posting his bail.

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Ann Coulter was prescient.

Demonic, indeed.

Grace_is_sufficient on November 5, 2011 at 1:42 PM

but it has been taken over by every far leftist group imaginable. Why do the taxpayers have to foot the bill for the destruction they do? This goes way beyond “free speech” rights.

silvernana on November 5, 2011 at 1:38 PM

There is speculation that the WH is behind this whole thing. And we all know how Barry loves to throw people under his big black armored bus of doom and gloom.

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Honey-roasted condominiums?

profitsbeard on November 5, 2011 at 1:47 PM

There is speculation that the WH is behind this whole thing. And we all know how Barry loves to throw people under his big black armored bus of doom and gloom.

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 1:43 PM

The people behind the WH are the ones behind this and I’d bet the farm on it. Barry does nothing without marching orders, he isn’t that smart.

darwin-t on November 5, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Pfffft… the TEA Party kills puppies. I read it in Politico

I AM THE 99% WITH NO BRAIN

Branch Rickey on November 5, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Sorry, wrong thread.

FloatingRock on November 5, 2011 at 1:40 PM

It happens

Branch Rickey on November 5, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Crisler said Gilmore owns a honey business.

Awwww. And it’s so much more healthy than that nasty refined sugar, too. He was contributing to the nation’s health!

/s

Wethal on November 5, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Amusing side note: Here in Colorado, we pronounce Poudre “Pooter.” I kind of like the sound of “Occupy Pooter.”

km on November 5, 2011 at 1:51 PM

The kid who died in OKC name was Louis Cameron Rodriguez. He was only 18 though he looked a lot older to me. They still haven’t released cause of death. At first I thought he might have died of a heart infection from IV drug use. Now, I think it might be a straight up OD.

Blake on November 5, 2011 at 1:52 PM

darwin-t on November 5, 2011 at 1:48 PM

What is bothering me is the fact that these are college students (wealthy parents), white male anarchists and general hapless hippies. The epitome of the Obama/Ayers crowd.

But now people are getting raped and cut and killed.

This is not a problem for Barack Bill Ayers Obama, this is the solution. Anarchy. Chaos. Brutality.

What a shameful excuse for a POTUS. He should resign.

But alas, he will not resign. He truly believes he will Reign.

/Good luck with that, Obama.

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 1:52 PM

valiant

hawkdriver on November 5, 2011 at 1:53 PM

If this guy is found guilty, I hope the judge gives him the maximum he possibly can in prison! I would fine him millions, but probably won’t see a dime of that? Too bad those who have been arrested vandalizing property won’t go to jail either or fined!
L

letget on November 5, 2011 at 1:55 PM

Police have arrested an Occupy _________ protester in connection with _________.

These Occupiers are OBAMA’S NATIONAL CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE that he talked about during the 2008 campaign.

OCCUPIERS = OBAMAS CLONE ARMY

PappyD61 on November 5, 2011 at 1:55 PM

Crisler said Gilmore is very kind, soft-spoken and wants to help people.

… when he’s not burning down their homes and businesses for not agreeing with him. Welcome to the New Age.

rrpjr on November 5, 2011 at 1:55 PM

(These stupids fracks are going to get people killed)

hawkdriver on November 5, 2011 at 1:36 PM

I get the same feeling…more than one of these groups is going to end badly.

JetBoy on November 5, 2011 at 1:56 PM

God Bless Them, Nancy Pelosi.

Dr Evil on November 5, 2011 at 1:57 PM

This guy is all over the internet from before the arson. He was a major occupier. He says he is a veteran and lost his hand over there. Don’t know if true of not, but if true, still no excuse.

Blake on November 5, 2011 at 1:58 PM

I happened on to an article yesterday showing the homes mansions of 8 to 10 of these peaceful souls that have been arrested. Are they protesting against themselves?

silvernana on November 5, 2011 at 2:00 PM

But think of all the construction jobs this arsonist just saved/created! /

innominatus on November 5, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Peaceful? As in Islam is a religion of peace?

katy the mean old lady on November 5, 2011 at 2:03 PM

JetBoy on November 5, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Just a matter of time.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Not knowing what evidence they have against him, I will keep an open mind.

Blake on November 5, 2011 at 2:04 PM

“He may have stopped by the protest, but he is in no way a direct relation to our movement,” said protester Julia Crisafi. “We are peaceful protesters.”


This will be what the last couple O-Someplace doofuses who are not yet arrested will be saying… right before they are arrested.

And will someone please ask the WH if they support the rapes, drug use, nasty toilet habits, and arson that the Occupy Movement is all about (You gonna make me lose my mind, up in here, up in here)?

RalphyBoy on November 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Not knowing what evidence they have against him, I will keep an open mind.

Blake on November 5, 2011 at 2:04 PM

The cornerstone of English Law.

Good on you.

But I wonder if Herman Cain got the same treatment by Politic-hoe.

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 2:07 PM

And will someone please ask the WH if they support the rapes, drug use, nasty toilet habits, and arson that the Occupy Movement is all about (You gonna make me lose my mind, up in here, up in here)?

RalphyBoy on November 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM

I think it was Biden who said rapes would be up, so …I guess he was right, and he should be shamed.

Obama comes out and supports this idiocy
Biden goes out and promotes rape
Then rape happens.

Where’s the box and bow to tie this package of exploitation of the young back to the WH? Oh. The bow is tied around Michelle’s Boob Belt. Dare you to touch that.

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 2:09 PM

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 2:09 PM

mo hasn’t been seen or heard from since that article a few weeks ago about how angry she is. Guess they have her under lock and key for awhile and let dear joe go out to shoot his mouth off?
And those belts! They do zero for her.
L

letget on November 5, 2011 at 2:16 PM

Occupier’s clearly don’t get it about how an economy works. When they do damage to some property, guess who is involved with processing the dollars to fix the building — evil banks and insurance companies.

Then there’s the bondsmen who take a big cut on bailing their sorry asses out of jail, assuming they’ve got something or someone able to bail them out. More likely, these folks may end up stuck in jail without bail getting a real world lesson or two on being reamed and occupied in a different sense…

drfredc on November 5, 2011 at 2:16 PM

“The Occupier acted stupidly.” PBHO… as he tries to distance himself from the protesters…

Khun Joe on November 5, 2011 at 2:17 PM

I heard an elderly lady raised her voice at a town hall meeting. That is clearly worse than arson. Leftist protesters are never violent.

Howcome on November 5, 2011 at 2:22 PM

Remember when Mayor Bloomberg took a swipe at the Tea Party when he said that the person who tried to set off a car bomb in Times Square might be “someone who doesn’t like the health care bill”? Bloomberg may not like the Tea Party, but he’s smart enough to know that Tea Partiers aren’t violent. Now he’s shi**ing bricks worried that the OWS protesters will start a riot if they’re forced to leave.

This is exactly the same mentality of people who call Christian fundamentalists dangerous extemists, but are scared to death to insult Islam, because they know who the real dangerous extremists are.

This is modern day Liberalism in a nutshell…….demonize your benign opponents and make excuses and apologies for your violent allies.

ardenenoch on November 5, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Arson’s a felony.
Setting fire to an occupied dwelling is an enhancer.
Most states’ laws say it is legal to use lethal force to prevent an act of arson in progress, as well as defend a third party from felonious assault.

Speaking of burning construction sites, what have ALF/ELF been up to lately

rayra on November 5, 2011 at 2:25 PM

As a burn survivor, I can’t tell you how much this infuriates me. Thank God no one was hurt.

rogerb on November 5, 2011 at 2:25 PM

“We are peaceful protesters.”

No true scotsman would ever…

ReformedAndDangerous on November 5, 2011 at 2:28 PM

He must have really had a lot of college debt.

JellyToast on November 5, 2011 at 2:29 PM

mo hasn’t been seen or heard from since that article a few weeks ago about how angry she is. Guess they have her under lock and key for awhile and let dear joe go out to shoot his mouth off?
And those belts! They do zero for her.
L

letget on November 5, 2011 at 2:16 PM

Word had it that she was the deliverer of the 2012 election. If they took her off the table? The next best step is anarchy. So, that’s what we are seeing now.

I just wish the moms and dad’s of these riotious skinny white boys would call them in for supper or something.

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Gilmore obviously just wanted to improve the unemployment situation in Ft. Collins. He was only thinking of all the carpenters, electricians, roofers, etc. that would now be able to find work repairing the damage he caused. The only people he hurt were those evil insurance corporations and their fat cat executives who have been hoarding money that should be shared with the other 99% of us. Gilmore is a true hero of The People(tm).

Socratease on November 5, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Most states’ laws say it is legal to use lethal force to prevent an act of arson in progress, as well as defend a third party from felonious assault.

Speaking of burning construction sites, what have ALF/ELF been up to lately

rayra on November 5, 2011 at 2:25 PM

Lethal force by whom?

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Socratease on November 5, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Unions.

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 2:36 PM

The article says he’s a registered Republican in bold letters.

darwin on November 5, 2011 at 2:36 PM

There is speculation that the WH is behind this whole thing. And we all know how Barry loves to throw people under his big black armored bus of doom and gloom.

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 1:43 PM

It’s WAY BEYOND SPECULATION.

Obama and his Czars sycophants are funding the criminal enterprise called ACORN.

ACORN is, in turn, funding OWS and paying “protestors”

In addition, Obama supports the OWS directly, even though it has now been exposed as a criminal organization responsible for riots, rapes, and arson which left several families homeless and could have killed them.

landlines on November 5, 2011 at 2:41 PM

Gilmore showed up in court and reportedly “broke down in tears” when telling the judge that he just wanted to go home with his wife.

Sounds like the new, fat-a** inmate at the beginning of Shawshank Redemption. I hope he gets the same treatment. What a lowlife.

BuckeyeSam on November 5, 2011 at 2:45 PM

The protesters were quick to point out that this one, scurrilous individual clearly shouldn’t be associated with the larger movement as a whole. Gilmore? Benjamin Gilmore? Hmmm… doesn’t ring a bell.

The wheels on the bus go round and round….

UltimateBob on November 5, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Where’s the box and bow to tie this package of exploitation of the young back to the WH? Oh. The bow is tied around Michelle’s Boob Belt. Dare you to touch that.

Key West Reader on November 5, 2011 at 2:09 PM


Yeah… That bow and belt could stretch round a whole lotta Barry’s/BiteMe’s messes…

RalphyBoy on November 5, 2011 at 2:48 PM

the Colorodoan just quoted an associate of his at Occupy Ft. Collins as saying the guy was a hardcore Ron Paulist – End the Fed, Stop the Wars, the works.

ericdondero on November 5, 2011 at 2:48 PM

As a burn survivor, I can’t tell you how much this infuriates me. Thank God no one was hurt.

rogerb on November 5, 2011 at 2:25 PM

Being burned is one of the most horrifying things imaginable to me.

I’m glad you made it through that ordeal, and I’m also glad no one was hurt by the thoughtless actions of this subhuman POS.

UltimateBob on November 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM

The article says he’s a registered Republican in bold letters.

darwin on November 5, 2011 at 2:36 PM

The article says he’s a Ronulan. Where’s Spathi been lately anyway?

batterup on November 5, 2011 at 2:59 PM

OWS….drugs,rape,assaulting the homeless,assaulting cops,calling for the overthrow of our government:


Obama to OWS:
“We are on their side”


Co-chairs of Congressional Progressive Caucus applaud Occupy Wall Street protests

(D) Raul Grijalva and Keith Ellison,

…..“We have been inspired by the growing grassroots movements on Wall Street and across the country.

Unions, Democrats seek momentum from ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement
By the CNN Wire Staff

Several hundred union and other progressive activists sought to capitalize on the growing “Occupy Wall Street” protests

“The progressive movement is on the upswing,” declared Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minnesota. “We are not going to stop. We are going to get the justice we deserve.”


Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Arizona,

“This is not an answer to the tea party,” he asserted. “This is not about hate. This is not about fear. This is not about division.” It’s an effort to “restore democracy to this nation.”
“We are going to fundamentally change the political culture of this nation,” he said.


Dems rally behind ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protest movement

By Alicia M. Cohn – 10/05/11 12:27 PM ET

Democrats are rallying behind the “Occupy Wall Street” movement, with several lawmakers endorsing the protests in New York City that have begun to spread to other cities.

House Democratic Caucus Chairman John Larson (Conn.) released a statement Wednesday saying, “The silent masses aren’t so silent anymore. They are fighting to give voice to the struggles that everyday Americans are going through.”


Speaking at the same event, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) endorsed the movement as well.

We have the crooks on Wall Street, and I use that word advisedly – don’t misquote me, the word is crooks – whose greed, whose recklessness, whose illegal behavior caused this terrible recession with so much suffering,” Sanders said Tuesday. “We believe in this country; we love this country; and we will be damned if we’re going to see a handful of robber barons control the future of this country.”


“I applaud those protesters who are out there, who are focusing attention on Wall Street, but what we’ve got to do is put meat on that bone,” Sanders said. “We’ve got to make demands on Wall Street [and] break those institutions up.”


A number of progressive Democrats are hoping to use the growing protests on Wall Street and elsewhere to energize the party’s base in advance of the 2012 elections.

….

Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) also released statements sympathizing with protesters.


“I’m so proud to see the Occupy Wall Street movement standing up to this rampant corporate greed and peacefully participating in our democracy,” Slaughter said.

Democrats own the rise of these violent leftist 100%.

Baxter Greene on November 5, 2011 at 2:59 PM

OWS….drugs,rape,assaulting the homeless,assaulting cops,calling for the overthrow of our government:


Obama to OWS:
“We are on their side”


Co-chairs of Congressional Progressive Caucus applaud Occupy Wall Street protests

(D) Raul Grijalva and Keith Ellison,

…..“We have been inspired by the growing grassroots movements on Wall Street and across the country.

Unions, Democrats seek momentum from ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement
By the CNN Wire Staff

Several hundred union and other progressive activists sought to capitalize on the growing “Occupy Wall Street” protests

“The progressive movement is on the upswing,” declared Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minnesota. “We are not going to stop. We are going to get the justice we deserve.”


Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Arizona,

“This is not an answer to the tea party,” he asserted. “This is not about hate. This is not about fear. This is not about division.” It’s an effort to “restore democracy to this nation.”
“We are going to fundamentally change the political culture of this nation,” he said.


Dems rally behind ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protest movement

By Alicia M. Cohn – 10/05/11 12:27 PM ET

Democrats are rallying behind the “Occupy Wall Street” movement, with several lawmakers endorsing the protests in New York City that have begun to spread to other cities.

House Democratic Caucus Chairman John Larson (Conn.) released a statement Wednesday saying, “The silent masses aren’t so silent anymore. They are fighting to give voice to the struggles that everyday Americans are going through.”


Speaking at the same event, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) endorsed the movement as well.

We have the crooks on Wall Street, and I use that word advisedly – don’t misquote me, the word is crooks – whose greed, whose recklessness, whose illegal behavior caused this terrible recession with so much suffering,” Sanders said Tuesday. “We believe in this country; we love this country; and we will be damned if we’re going to see a handful of robber barons control the future of this country.”


“I applaud those protesters who are out there, who are focusing attention on Wall Street, but what we’ve got to do is put meat on that bone,” Sanders said. “We’ve got to make demands on Wall Street [and] break those institutions up.”


A number of progressive Democrats are hoping to use the growing protests on Wall Street and elsewhere to energize the party’s base in advance of the 2012 elections.

….

Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) also released statements sympathizing with protesters.


“I’m so proud to see the Occupy Wall Street movement standing up to this rampant corporate greed and peacefully participating in our democracy,” Slaughter said.

Democrats own the rise of these violent leftist 100%.

Baxter Greene on November 5, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Sh!t…sorry about double post.

Baxter Greene on November 5, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Gilmore showed up in court and reportedly “broke down in tears” when telling the judge that he just wanted to go home with his wife.

…typical of this progressive movement.
You can bet he has been yelling and screaming about “taking it to the man” and “lets tear this place down”……
………now that reality is hitting him….he’s crying like a baby about “wanting to go home”.

“Viva la Revolution!!!!”

Baxter Greene on November 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Sad Gilmore, Happy’s long-lost cousin.

hoosiermama on November 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Gilmore showed up in court and reportedly “broke down in tears” when telling the judge that he just wanted to go home with his wife. The judge, apparently not familiar with the trials and tribulations of the put upon 99%, promptly set bail at one quarter million dollars… cash only, please.

A sentiment that homeboy should’ve realized before he torched $10million worth of property leaving it um……UNoccupied.

ted c on November 5, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Democrats own the rise of these violent leftist 100%.

Baxter Greene on November 5, 2011 at 3:03 PM

nice work, as usual Baxter. You do a great job tying the knot on these people.

ted c on November 5, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Sh!t…sorry about double post.

Baxter Greene on November 5, 2011 at 3:03 PM

How’d you get away with that? I always get the warning when I repeat a post.

Ed must like you or something. :-)

UltimateBob on November 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM

See?!?! I told you all that the Tea Party was a bunch of animals! Oh, wait — ummm, nevermind…

Dopenstrange on November 5, 2011 at 3:40 PM

I’m not trying to exonerate this guy, but so far I haven’t seen any evidence presented in the news stories tying him to the crime.

listens2glenn on November 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM

SDS had the Weathermen, The PLO had Fatah, Hamas has, well, Hamas, Islamic jihad, jamal al islamia. ect, so excuse my if I’m not so quick to separate the violent from the “peaceful”

Gwillie on November 5, 2011 at 3:54 PM

Well, if the charges are proven true at trial, he’s certainly helping motivate some renters and business owners to find new locations. And as a bonus, he’s probably going to save or create any number of jobs as workers attempt to clean up, repair and replace the badly damaged real estate.

Three cheers for broken windows!

Tzetzes on November 5, 2011 at 4:07 PM

JellyToast on November 5, 2011 at 2:29 PM

At least now he’s getting the free room and board he wanted.

vermin on November 5, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Except for the Arson, Rape, Assault, Attempted Murder, Robbery, Public Fornication, Rioting, Bombs, Vandalism, Cursing, Kiddie Human Shields, Kidnapping, Child Abuse, Drugs, Panhandling and Littering, it’s just like the TEA Party!

Haiku Guy on November 5, 2011 at 5:05 PM

“One person’s actions do not represent this group as a whole,” said protester Andrew Stover.

I’ve heard this alot…after, of course, we’ve had a situation in which one placard carried by a LaRouche freak depicting Obama with a Hitler mustache was enough to get the entire TP movement branded as racist. Oh, the irony.

ddrintn on November 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM

Who pooped on this guy’s car?

Jake_W on November 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Being burned is one of the most horrifying things imaginable to me.
 
UltimateBob on November 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM

 
Not to divert the thread too much, but I’d had all the standard broken arm, stitches, sprains, etc., but the burn completely changed what I considered painful.
 
And then, after the bulk of the pain is gone (sometimes it’s so bad they induce a coma), you get to deal with the psychological/scarring aspect and the new face in the mirror. It happened over ten years ago and I still can’t watch anything, even fictional, that depicts folks getting burned without nearly puking (K-19: The Widowmaker @ the theater was when I first realized it).
 
I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. That’s why this @$%^&%* makes me so mad.

rogerb on November 5, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Gilmore showed up in court and reportedly “broke down in tears” when telling the judge that he just wanted to go home with his wife.

I bet he really, really does. Life is tough, tougher when you’re stupid. Perhaps he missed the meeting on the meaning of up and down twinkles related to arson martyrdom.

[email protected] on November 5, 2011 at 6:18 PM

I just want to say that condo are HOMES for people. That fire forced people out of their homes and put all their worldly possesions not to mention lives at risk.

AnotherOpinion on November 5, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Gilmore showed up in court and reportedly “broke down in tears” when telling the judge that he just wanted to go home with his wife.

Wait…what…he does not want to return to his “Occupy” home? Why not?
That will take some big bucks from the Occupy lawyer fund…. wait…. what, they are not going to back him you say? Maybe they will, do not want to discourage the rest of the violent Occupy bunch!

IowaWoman on November 6, 2011 at 12:59 AM

The protesters were quick to point out that this one, scurrilous individual clearly shouldn’t be associated with the larger movement as a whole. Gilmore? Benjamin Gilmore? Hmmm… doesn’t ring a bell.

My heart bleeds. What we have with these Occupy movements is a number of splinter groups protesting together as if they were one large group. In reality, the communists, the anarchists, the anti-corporatists, and numerous other tiny groups don’t agree on much of anything, but there’s not enough in any group to be seen as anything more than a fringe. So they all protest together as if they have some sort of consensus.

It’s true enough that any one protester or group of protesters may not represent the group as a whole.

Tough.

The reason they all protest together is to claim unity. They can’t turn around then and declare that some of them are maybe not part of the group after all. They can’t have it both ways.

So whatever the violent anarchists reflects every bit as much on everyone else in the group. Don’t like that? Then either throw out the bums or leave the group yourself.

You knew what they were when you invited them!

There Goes The Neighborhood on November 6, 2011 at 1:11 AM

Way to keep up that positive public image, folks!

It’s hard to believe that still more people approve of these clowns than disapprove in this poll(39/34). I know that the longer the OWS protests go on and the more violance that take place, the protesters’ approval ratings will go down, at least I would hope they would, but I find it had to believe that close to 40% of our society approves of this. These poll numbers are kinda sad.

Dollayo on November 6, 2011 at 6:34 AM

they’re not sharing the SMORES ??

/.

CaveatEmpty on November 7, 2011 at 8:50 AM