Romney still hitting Perry on immigration

posted at 3:05 pm on November 4, 2011 by Tina Korbe

The Mitt Romney campaign recently launched its first paid attack on Rick Perry — a series of robo calls in Iowa, featuring the voice of Arizona border-county Sheriff Paul Babeau. In the call, Babeau brands Perry “part of the illegal immigration problem.” Not surprisingly, Babeau mentions Perry’s opposition to a border fence and support for in-state college tuition for the children of illegal immigrants as evidence of Perry’s troublesome positions on the issue.

Babeau doesn’t mention, however, that Perry also supports work visas for illegal immigrants — perhaps because Perry only recently prominently articulated that position:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry proposed the federal government should extend work visas allowing illegal immigrants to move freely between the U.S. and their home countries — but stressed that he opposes amnesty or a path to citizenship.

Perry said in an interview with CNN’s John King on Thursday that expectations that U.S. authorities are going to arrest and deport up to 15 million illegal immigrants isn’t realistic. He added, however, that other Republicans, including fellow Texan George W. Bush, went too far when they previously proposed an immigration overhaul that included a path to citizenship. …

“You can put a program into place in which these individuals can be identified, and work visas in which they can move back and forth between their countries but not to become United States citizens,” Perry said. “And I think that’s where McCain, that’s where Romney, that’s where even Bush went wrong when they talked about the issue that, `we’re going to give amnesty to these individuals,’ and people just said, `no, we’re not.”‘

That Romney has directly invested dollars to oppose Perry’s already problematic immigration positions underscores the fact that the former Massachusetts governor must still perceive Perry as his long-term rival, despite Herman Cain’s recent domination of both the polls and the news cycle.

Perry’s best attempts to revive his campaign have not yet seemed to catch on — and his early defense of his in-state tuition law was inelegant and clumsy, at best — but his positions on immigration really shouldn’t disqualify him from the GOP nomination. Taken in totality, they reflect a pragmatic approach that yet respects the rule of law. He recognizes securing the border — including with strategic fencing — as the necessary first step to a sound immigration policy and rejects amnesty as the ultimate sanction of illegal entry into the country, but also proposes policies that might enable the U.S. economy to legitimately benefit from the productivity of non-U.S. citizen workers.

At a time of high unemployment, that might not be a top concern. In fact, the top concern might be the opposite: How do we retain jobs for American workers? But support for in-state tuition or work visas can’t necessarily be held against Perry from a rule of law standpoint and, again, need not disqualify him for the nomination, especially in light of Romney’s equally squishy positions.


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Well if Mitt was hitting anyone other than Perry right now I’d say he was a poor tactician and lacked Presidential “gravitas”.

Soberingly – the $15M in Perry’s wallet is more of a threat to Mitt than anything any other candidate has.

Mitt’s smart enough to realize that and I give him credit for that much at least.

HondaV65 on November 4, 2011 at 3:08 PM

60 Days left until Romney runs the table.

El_Terrible on November 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM

but also proposes policies that might enable the U.S. economy to legitimately benefit from the productivity of non-U.S. citizen workers.

Because what an economy suffering from high unemployment and declining wages really needs is to import millions of low-wage workers.

Jon0815 on November 4, 2011 at 3:11 PM

Non-Ney

Drop out and quit spending your DNC funds, Nomney. Or, if you will. Just run as Obama’s running mate.

Key West Reader on November 4, 2011 at 3:11 PM

Something to keep in mind is who was in the lead this time of the year in the previous GOP primary race: Giuliani first with Thompson second. What happened there?

Hard Right on November 4, 2011 at 3:12 PM

BTW, Cain raised $6 million in October, he’s raising big bucks off the scandal, so he’s not cash strapped, and Romney still doesn’t see him as a threat. Hmmmmm…

El_Terrible on November 4, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Who doesn’t get this yet? Look at the bank accounts.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:12 PM

In fact, the top concern might be the opposite: How do we retain jobs for American workers?

You don’t retain them by opposing the use of E-Verify by employers, which is what Perry does.

AZCoyote on November 4, 2011 at 3:13 PM

Romney…. Obama’s running mate. The Establishment that thinks they are our betters. Romney. The next in line for the establishment. Romney, the flip flopper that will guarantee Obama’s second term.

Romney.

Key West Reader on November 4, 2011 at 3:13 PM

I do wonder what is going on, because they have all gone after Perry. Has Perry been a real jerk to them personally? Do they have polling that shows he is the biggest threat (bigger than Cain)? Are the people saying anyone but Mitt while the RNC is saying anyone but Perry?

It baffles me. I like Perry, he is far from perfect, but I haven’t seen a perfect candidate ever. I keep going back to Cain saying he would not support Perry or something like that when Mitt is pretty far left compared to anyone else.

jeffn21 on November 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Too bad the “True Conservatives” couldn’t find a better candidate to run other than Perry.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on November 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Perry’s oped in the Washington Times was good today. It’s on his site if anybody is interested in finding it.

Not linking as I’m not in the mood to provide “material” to non-Perry supporters.

gophergirl on November 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Who doesn’t get this yet? Look at the bank accounts.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Cain has money now. Still not a threat.

El_Terrible on November 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Hispandering > taking Obamacare off the table.

Kataklysmic on November 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM

BTW, Cain raised $6 million in October, he’s raising big bucks off the scandal, so he’s not cash strapped, and Romney still doesn’t see him as a threat. Hmmmmm…

El_Terrible on November 4, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Romney has been raising cash for years. I’d like to see a full ccounting of the Obama and Romney camps and a side by side .xls comparison.

Do you think we’ll ever see that?

Yean, neither did I.

Romney is Obama’s running mate. And Huntsman is their VP.

Key West Reader on November 4, 2011 at 3:15 PM

in-state tuition or work visas can’t necessarily be held against Perry

says Tina “Perry’s girl” Korbe

hanzblinx on November 4, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Also Tina, I agree kind of with Rick Perry on the “in-state” tuition stuff for a lot of reasons. All those kids have lived in the state of Texas (illegally, yes) for long enough to have become residents were they legal. Military folks get “in-state” the moment they’re stationed in Texas (as they should) – the only people who don’t are the people from out of state who haven’t lived in Texas long enough to acquire residency.

I really don’t think a Dad in Wisconsin should get upset that an illegal who’s lived in Texas and paid taxes in Texas for years (only tax Texas has is sales tax and yes – illegals pay it) – while his kid, who just shows up at Texas A&M from Milwaukee has to pay out of state.

I also think that, regardless how “zero tolerance” conservatives want to be on this issue – with over 20 million of them here – some of them are going to eventually become citizens and, I’d rather have them be educated when they are made citizens.

I know I’ll get killed for that opinion – I used to hold a different opinion myself until I got personally involved with a bunch of illegals who came to New Orleans to sweat out the heat with no power with me to help me rebuild my house in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. I didn’t live in a flood zone (not even really close), – but I was close enough to the center of storm for an unprecedented tidal surge.

And I had no flood insurance.

So … I retired from the Navy – took two jobs to raise the funds for my house and did a lot of the work myself – with the help of some obviously illegal Mexicans who came to help me out for a reasonable price when everyone who was legal was scalping the hell out of goods and services back then.

These were hard working folks who converged on NOLA because they saw opportunity. It wasn’t long ago that Americans were willing to endure this kind of hardship to get ahead.

HondaV65 on November 4, 2011 at 3:18 PM

I’m no Mittens fan…

… but he should really be spending his money on going after Obowma.

Seven Percent Solution on November 4, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Not surprisingly, Babeau mentions Perry’s opposition to a border fence

Once again,

1. Explain to us how you build a fence down the middle of a river, and across the middle of the Amistad reservoir, or:
2. Explain to Americans who live on the border that by emminent domain you will take away their access to 90% of their water, making their land uninhabitable.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 12:01 PM

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Perry said in an interview with CNN’s John King on Thursday that expectations that U.S. authorities are going to arrest and deport up to 15 million illegal immigrants isn’t realistic.

Yeah, to heck with enforcing existing law which requires illegals to be deported. Let’s give them more freebies and provide even more incentives for illegals to flood the country.

Obama has tried to tie ICE’s hands and made deportation difficult, but Perry won’t even be bothered with something as silly as enforcing the law. Problem solved! Well, that was easy.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Who doesn’t get this yet? Look at the bank accounts.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Hey a couple more Politico hit pieces, and Herman Cain will have competitive campaign funds ;)

Dr Evil on November 4, 2011 at 3:25 PM

1. Explain to us how you build a fence down the middle of a river, and across the middle of the Amistad reservoir, or:
2. Explain to Americans who live on the border that by emminent domain you will take away their access to 90% of their water, making their land uninhabitable.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 12:01 PM

Simple. Electrify the water with 999 volts. Next question.

hanzblinx on November 4, 2011 at 3:25 PM

How does this help Sergey Huntsman…?

/

Seven Percent Solution on November 4, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Romney is Obama’s running mate. And Huntsman is their VP.

Key West Reader on November 4, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Wilbur Huntsman?

Dr Evil on November 4, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Taken in totality, they reflect a pragmatic approach that yet respects the rule of law.

This is flat out nonsense.

The governors of Oklahoma, Arizona, Georgia, and Alabama have all taken solid – demonstrably effective - steps to battle their illegals problem. None of which Perry has implemented, or in fact he’s actively derided.

The facts simply destroy the spin that Perry is anything other than soft on illegals.

Rebar on November 4, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Simple. Electrify the water with 999 volts. Next question.

hanzblinx on November 4, 2011 at 3:25 PM

What a brilliant plan. Have you thought about a career in international diplomacy? By treaty, the waterway belongs to both countries, with the water rights split.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Romney still hitting Perry on immigration

Isn’t it surprising that the so-called turnaround specialist and business genius, Romney, prefers to hit Perry on anything but the economy?

He can’t go after Perry on his successful jobs record so all he is left with is attacking him on immigration and entitlement reform?

What happened to jobs being the most important thing?

I will save this article for use when a Romneybot starts to whine when Romney is being attacked in a way similar to when Perry attacked him for employing illegals.

Perry’s detractors will like us to think that the only thing worth gleaning from his long governing record is Gardasil and the Texas Dream Act. Forget tort reform, his jobs record, etc… – it’s all about the GardasilDreamAct.

But who can blame Romney? A vocal section of conservatives (~25%) are following another scam artist and snake oil salesman (Cain) and will only wake up when he hand-delivers tham to Romney.

TheRightMan on November 4, 2011 at 3:30 PM

The facts simply destroy the spin that Perry is anything other than soft on illegals.

Rebar on November 4, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Riiight, that’s why he got hit during the last campaign for Governor for his stance on sanctuary cities SEE Houston…cause he’s soft on illegals/

Dr Evil on November 4, 2011 at 3:31 PM

That Romney has directly invested dollars to oppose Perry’s already problematic immigration positions underscores the fact that the former Massachusetts governor must still perceive Perry as his long-term rival, despite Herman Cain’s recent domination of both the polls and the news cycle.

Nonsense Tina. Don’t you know that Romney is attacking Perry to help Cain win the nomination? Clearly Cain’s stalking horse. Or something. Well, wait a minute, I’ll have to check with the conspiracy theorists…they say so much contradictory stuff, no one, not even themselves I surmise, can keep it all straightened out.

/

lol

csdeven on November 4, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Obviously he thinks Cain is no threat. Not a single commercial anywhere targeting Cain. Uses kid gloves in the debates. Still think Cain is just a stalking horse. Well done Romney, well done.

kerrhome on November 4, 2011 at 3:33 PM

What a brilliant plan. Have you thought about a career in international diplomacy? By treaty, the waterway belongs to both countries, with the water rights split.
Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Tell that to American citizens who are being terrorized by the illegals day and night, along the border and quite a ways in.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:33 PM

I won’t be happy until Rick and Mitt are wrestling in a kiddie pool of Jello.

Oh dear, did I think that out loud?

Fallon on November 4, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Key West Reader on November 4, 2011 at 3:13 PM

Hey, if you repeat that dozens of times, will it magically come true?

csdeven on November 4, 2011 at 3:34 PM

I won’t be happy until Rick and Mitt are wrestling in a kiddie pool of Jello.

Oh dear, did I think that out loud?

Fallon on November 4, 2011 at 3:34 PM

I just laughed out loud at my desk

gophergirl on November 4, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Riiight, that’s why he got hit during the last campaign for Governor for his stance on sanctuary cities SEE Houston…cause he’s soft on illegals/
Dr Evil on November 4, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Meaningless since he’s turned TX into a de facto sanctuary state.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Tell that to American citizens who are being terrorized by the illegals day and night, along the border and quite a ways in.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:33 PM

I talk to them every day, since I live here.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Some more thoughts on the illegal problem …

I think you have to address the “root causes” of the illegal problem and, it’s not JUST because there’s no fence down there …

Here’s the main issues that people have with the illegal immigration problem …

1. THE BORDER VIOLENCE – This is almost exclusively caused by the drug trade and the Mexican cartels. However, when you look back at prohibition in this country – you find that we also had violent cartels in the “moonshine business”. Al Capone was nothing more than a violent moonshine cartel – he just didn’t have AK-47′s and Barret’s .50 cal Sniper Rifles given to him by the BATF. When realized the error of prohibition – we reversed it. Can anyone name a violent “moonshine cartel” that exists in the US today? They seem to have evaporated when we repealed prohibition. The war on drugs isn’t working folks. Legalize them and the border violence will disappear almost entirely – because the drug cartels will be OUT of work – in the same manner the old “moonshine cartels” became unemployed when prohibition was overturned.

2. ILLEGALS MOOCHING OFF OUR ENTITLEMENTS – is this an illegal immigration problem? Or a problem with entitlements? Eliminate the entitlements and you’ll eliminate any “leeches” coming across the border to take advantage of them.

3. ILLEGALS WILL SKEW OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM AND MAKE US ALL DEMOCRATS – This will certainly happen if we continue to be PERCEIVED as being anti-hispanic, anti-mexican – what have you. Perception is reality in the mind of the voters. I think we can SELL Conservatism to these people – the good ones – and there a lot of good ones. Karl Rove and Bush did it in Texas. Rick Perry continues to do so also. In fact, Texas politics is probably a recipe for how we ought to go about integrating Hispanics into the GOP. I’m not a fan of Tokyo Rove nor Bush – but they did do well with Hispanics in Texas. I have confidence that conservative values can be sold to these people because conservative ideas are valid – more valid than anything the left has. But we never reach out and try – we just pound the table and insist that 20 million people be deported.

HondaV65 on November 4, 2011 at 3:36 PM

On all issues, except immigration, Romney is running a general election campaign.

In contrast, Perry is running a general election campaign on immigration and a conservative campaign everywhere else.

Cain… Nein Nein Nein.

Newt, has been solid, has rejected both extremes on immigration; amnesty vs deporting everyone.

El_Terrible on November 4, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Romney should be careful… Still focusing on Perry, yet ignoring Cain & Gingrich. One of those two will come back to haunt him.

Danny on November 4, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Not surprisingly, Babeau mentions Perry’s opposition to a border fence and support for in-state college tuition for the children of illegal immigrants as evidence of Perry’s troublesome positions on the issue.

This is so ridiculous and it’s sad to see this keep being propagated. He is against a border fence because his people, the ones that actually work the border, tell him it is not practical and that we’d be BETTER OFF with drones boots on the ground, with strategic fence placement. It’s not that he’s against securing the border. He’s done more than any one else to secure that border. He just thinks a fence is not the smart way to go, and since it is his people working the border that tell us this, I believe them.

Now, if you think a fence is practical, at least admit that Perry does believe in border security but not a fence and let’s have an argument about what is the best way to secure the border. Perry and his team who live there just don’t think a fence covering the entire border is the best way to do it.

kerrhome on November 4, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Simple. Electrify the water with 999 volts. Next question.

hanzblinx on November 4, 2011 at 3:25 PM

What a brilliant plan. Have you thought about a career in international diplomacy? By treaty, the waterway belongs to both countries, with the water rights split.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:28 PM

He was making a joke. And a pretty funny one I might add.

Kataklysmic on November 4, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Tell that to American citizens who are being terrorized by the illegals day and night, along the border and quite a ways in.
whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:33 PM

I talk to them every day, since I live here.
Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:36 PM

So you live in the line of fire or away from it, in a relatively safe zone?

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Mittens is scared of Gov. Perry. Rightfully so.

publiuspen on November 4, 2011 at 3:41 PM

So you live in the line of fire or away from it, in a relatively safe zone?

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:37 PM

You don’t seem to understand the situation, nor perhaps geography. The terror is 99% on the Mexican side of the border, and the border is 100% water, either a river or a reservoir. We know that a fence is a poor solution, and we don’t want our land destroyed by cutting off our access to water for a poorly thought out ‘solution’.
Not wanting a fence does not equate to being soft on illegals or drug gangs.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Romney, prefers to hit Perry on anything but the economy?

TheRightMan on November 4, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Dang you are whiny. Why would anyone go after a candidate on an issue that isn’t their biggest weakness? Perry is vulnerable on immigration (rightly so too) and that will be the issue he is hammered on. Do you expect Perry to go after the other candidates on any issue that isn’t their weakest one?

csdeven on November 4, 2011 at 3:42 PM

1. THE BORDER VIOLENCE – This is almost exclusively caused by the drug trade and the Mexican cartels. However, when you look back at prohibition in this country – you find that we also had violent cartels in the “moonshine business”. Al Capone was nothing more than a violent moonshine cartel

So we need to import even more foreign violent criminals because ours just haven’t been keeping up?

2. ILLEGALS MOOCHING OFF OUR ENTITLEMENTS – is this an illegal immigration problem?

Once they’re deported it’s not anymore.

3. ILLEGALS WILL SKEW OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM AND MAKE US ALL DEMOCRATS – This will certainly happen if we continue to be PERCEIVED as being anti-hispanic, anti-mexican
HondaV65 on November 4, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Yeah, I agree!! We got to stop thinking about America and Americans. What can we do to please the criminals so they can cast illegal votes for us???

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:44 PM

I’m not a Romney supporter, but Perry has left himself wide open to immigration attacks, Romney would be foolish not to take advantage of the opening.

Perry calling his base voters heartless racist bigots was as stupid as a politician can get and Perry has yet to apologize. Perry stated that he shouldn’t have said that, but that is not an apology.

RJL on November 4, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Hispandering > taking Obamacare off the table.

Kataklysmic on November 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM

I haven’t been able to decide for myself which of is worse, but it doesn’t matter because they’re both disqualifying offenses IMO. I’ll certainly be voting for somebody else if it’s either of those two.

FloatingRock on November 4, 2011 at 3:45 PM

What a brilliant plan. Have you thought about a career in international diplomacy? By treaty, the waterway belongs to both countries, with the water rights split.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Its not any worse than arming drug cartels to kill them before they even have the chance to swim to our side…

dominigan on November 4, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Mittens is scared of Gov. Perry. Rightfully so.

publiuspen on November 4, 2011 at 3:41 PM

The only threat Perry is, is that of spending his money to hamstring Romney. Perry stills believes he has a chance to win the nomination. But once he wakes up to the fact he is not ever going to be the nominee, he will become a vindictive little 8itch and spend whatever money he has left to destroy Romney for no other reason than to destroy him.

Romney’s plan is to get Perry to spend that $15 million trying to win the nomination while he still erroneously believes he has a chance. The best way to do that is to continue to put Perry on the defensive.

csdeven on November 4, 2011 at 3:47 PM

I haven’t been able to decide for myself which of is worse, but it doesn’t matter because they’re both disqualifying offenses IMO. I’ll certainly be voting for somebody else if it’s either of those two.

FloatingRock on November 4, 2011 at 3:45 PM

I’m definitely voting for someone else in the primary. But if either make it to the general, I will skip to the polls to vote for Perry or Romney. I hate rinos as much as the next guy, but hate Marxists waaaaaaayyyyyyy more.

Kataklysmic on November 4, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Meaningless since he’s turned TX into a de facto sanctuary state.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:35 PM

And Romney turned his house into an actual sanctuary mansion for illegals, did nothing about sanctuary cities in Mass. while he was Governor, and continues to obfuscate on amnesty for illegals.

So what’s your point again?

TheRightMan on November 4, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Do you live in the line of fire or away from it, in a relatively safe zone?

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:37 PM

You don’t seem to understand the situation, nor perhaps geography. The terror is 99% on the Mexican side of the border, and the border is 100% water, either a river or a reservoir. We know that a fence is a poor solution, and we don’t want our land destroyed by cutting off our access to water for a poorly thought out ‘solution’.
Not wanting a fence does not equate to being soft on illegals or drug gangs.
Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:42 PM

I’m just guessing that when there’s warning signs re:illegals 80 miles into the US side of the border we’re probably not exactly talking quite the blissful Shangri-La.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Romney’s plan is to get Perry to spend that $15 million trying to win the nomination while he still erroneously believes he has a chance. The best way to do that is to continue to put Perry on the defensive.

csdeven on November 4, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Sure… although a minor point of correction.

Rick Perry’s haul of cash is no longer $15 million. It’s still climbing. The next quarter report of campaign hauls will be quite interesting. It will assuredly surprise many.

TheRightMan on November 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM

1. I think we’re all being Breitbarted on the Cain Bimbogate. Whether it’s trying to make a mountain of speculation out of a molehill of Tina The Brittle Tech Writer wanting a payday, or trying to get R’s on the record pooh-poohing poooor vyctymized wymyn to whom something awful may have occurred, we have yet to see.

2. Cain’s on top because he’s been tossing chunks of raw, bleeding red meat to the baying hounds, he’s doing a real good impression of an outsider (former head of the Kansas City Federal Reserve–WAT?), and some R’s are under the delusion that Cain will neutralize the race card. Even if the scandal is a big nothing, reality will hit sooner or later.

3. Perry has the money, has the organization, and if he can get back up on his feet, he has Sarah Palin.

Yes, he is Romney’s biggest threat.

Sekhmet on November 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Perry stills believes he has a chance to win the nomination. But once he wakes up to the fact he is not ever going to be the nominee, he will become a vindictive little 8itch and spend whatever money he has left to destroy Romney for no other reason than to destroy him.
Romney’s plan is to get Perry to spend that $15 million trying to win the nomination while he still erroneously believes he has a chance. The best way to do that is to continue to put Perry on the defensive.
csdeven on November 4, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Yup, he’s in the toilet and from there he doesn’t have much choice as to what he can throw out at Romney or Cain. Perry’s basically just got crony-good ol boy PAC money that’s keeping him on life support at this point. But even that TX money well will dry up.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:55 PM

So what’s your point again?

TheRightMan on November 4, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Hey, thanks for linking a site with an IE exploit on it – please don’t click on it anyone else.

And since Perry refuses to use E-Verify on Texas state employees, can you say with confidence that no illegals work for him?

Rebar on November 4, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Rick Perry’s haul of cash is no longer $15 million. It’s still climbing. The next quarter report of campaign hauls will be quite interesting. It will assuredly surprise many.

TheRightMan on November 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM

That may be, but you ought to be careful with your predictions. Cain and Romney will almost certainly out pace him by a huge amount. Perry’s campaign is stagnating and will soon only serve one purpose and that is to destroy Romney and or Cain for his own entertainment.

csdeven on November 4, 2011 at 3:57 PM

haha! Crucify Perry, and you got Romney the most liberal Republican in years. How stupid are we?

Cost of in state tuition for illegals since it first started? 35 million dollars

Cost of Romneycare? ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

conservador on November 4, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Meaningless since he’s turned TX into a de facto sanctuary state.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Uh huh, the attacks on Perry over his sanctuary city position never happened.

In May 2010, the Texas State Legislature was working on a law to ban the practice.

In June 2011, Texas Governor Rick Perry proposed legislation to ban sanctuary cities, SB 9, to the Special Session agenda for the State Legislature. Public hearings on the sanctaury cities legislation were held before the Texas Senate Transportation and Homeland Security Committee on June 13, 2011.

Dr Evil on November 4, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Hey, thanks for linking a site with an IE exploit on it – please don’t click on it anyone else.
And since Perry refuses to use E-Verify on Texas state employees, can you say with confidence that no illegals work for him?
Rebar on November 4, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Eh, I don’t use IE but thanks for the heads up anyway. I’ve only had 2 nasty bugs over umpteen years, but I not all that excited about revisiting those instances.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:58 PM

I’m just guessing that when there’s warning signs re:illegals 80 miles into the US side of the border we’re probably not exactly talking quite the blissful Shangri-La.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:50 PM

That’s Arizona, but you’re right – it sucks that the feds won’t do their job. My point is, however, that a fence isn’t the right solution, and I keep hearing it over and over, without considering what that entails. A fence across the entire border would cut off almost all water to a region that has very little.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:59 PM

Meaningless since he’s turned TX into a de facto sanctuary state.
whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Uh huh, the attacks on Perry over his sanctuary city position never happened.
Dr Evil on November 4, 2011 at 3:58 PM

You missed my point – and it was a pretty obvious point at that. Try reading it again (you quoted it above).

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Hey, thanks for linking a site with an IE exploit on it – please don’t click on it anyone else.

And since Perry refuses to use E-Verify on Texas state employees, can you say with confidence that no illegals work for him?

Rebar on November 4, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Sorry about that… sometimes I wish there was an “Edit Post” button so I could revise the link. The same story is available on other sites.

With respect to Perry using illegal work, has he ever acted the hypocrite like Romney? And Romney’s problem is not only with using illegal help but his duplicity in turning a blind eye on sanctuary cities in Mass. during his tenure.

He signed a bill outlawing them in his last week in office – of course he had started running for the Presidency – only for his successor to overrule that bill.

Romney is the biggest scam artist and Manchurian candidate ever to run on the GOP ticket. And the GOP very well deserves whatever they will get if they vote for him.

TheRightMan on November 4, 2011 at 4:04 PM

BTW, Cain raised $6 million in October, he’s raising big bucks off the scandal, so he’s not cash strapped, and Romney still doesn’t see him as a threat. Hmmmmm…

El_Terrible on November 4, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Indeed.

Punchenko on November 4, 2011 at 4:05 PM

I’m just guessing that when there’s warning signs re:illegals 80 miles into the US side of the border we’re probably not exactly talking quite the blissful Shangri-La.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:50 PM

That’s Arizona, but you’re right – it sucks that the feds won’t do their job. My point is, however, that a fence isn’t the right solution, and I keep hearing it over and over, without considering what that entails. A fence across the entire border would cut off almost all water to a region that has very little.

Hiya Ciska on November 4, 2011 at 3:59 PM

I would build it 1/2 mile in on the other side if the raids on Americans and illegals are not stopped by Mexico. They don’t clean up their mess, we will. And not by giving away freebies.

Of course, if we had a President willing to enforce the law, a la Eisenhower, this would all be moot. Perry has zero interest in enforcing existing deportation laws, he wants to hand out visas at the open door instead.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 4:06 PM

With respect to Perry using illegal work, has he ever acted the hypocrite like Romney?

TheRightMan on November 4, 2011 at 4:04 PM

So, it’s ok for Perry to use illegal labor, because he never said he didn’t?

That’s right out of the progressive’s playbook.

Rebar on November 4, 2011 at 4:09 PM

You missed my point – and it was a pretty obvious point at that. Try reading it again (you quoted it above).

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 4:01 PM

I didn’t miss it – it’s subjective. Making a claim, doesn’t make the claim true.

Rick Perry as Governor has spent 400 Million Texas citizens dollars, protecting the southern border with Mexico. That’s the Federal government’s duty to enforce our border, and provide border security, and regulate immigration. In fact the federal government sues states who try to enforce border security, and remove illegal aliens. Rick Perry doesn’t have the authority as the Governor of Texas to secure the Mexican border, for one thing it’s 2,000 miles long and it stretches beyond the borders of Texas. If an illegal alien makes it into California, Arizona, New Mexico, there is nothing stopping them from crossing state borders in the United States.

Dr Evil on November 4, 2011 at 4:09 PM

2. Cain’s on top because he’s been tossing chunks of raw, bleeding red meat to the baying hounds, he’s doing a real good impression of an outsider (former head of the Kansas City Federal Reserve–WAT?), and some R’s are under the delusion that Cain will neutralize the race card. Even if the scandal is a big nothing, reality will hit sooner or later.

Sekhmet on November 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Herb was a fixture within the Beltway cocktail circuit as NRA president. This whole “outsider” crap is just that — crap.

Cain’s tenure at the NRA:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cains-experience-as-restaurant-group-chief-mirrors-some-of-his-campaigns-problems/2011/11/03/gIQAxsQvjM_story.html

Cain will make the perfect VP pick for Mitt.

Punchenko on November 4, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Yeah, to heck with enforcing existing law which requires illegals to be deported. Let’s give them more freebies and provide even more incentives for illegals to flood the country.

Obama has tried to tie ICE’s hands and made deportation difficult, but Perry won’t even be bothered with something as silly as enforcing the law. Problem solved! Well, that was easy.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:24 PM

You lying sack of…! Give a link where Perry said he wouldn’t enforce existing law. What’s easy is watching you prove you’re a liar.

Tell that to American citizens who are being terrorized by the illegals day and night, along the border and quite a ways in.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Why do you think Perry’s #1 priority is securing the border? You know jack $#!@ about border security. Perry has spent over $400,000,000 of state money on our border and deployed Texas Rangers down there for security. He intercepted Obama at a Texas airport and hand delivered a request for National Guardsmen and other assets and Obama blew him off.
A critic and a liar are two different things and you are the latter.

cartooner on November 4, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Simple. Electrify the water with 999 volts. Next question.

hanzblinx on November 4, 2011 at 3:25 PM

So how are you and Bishop related?

Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Cost of in state tuition for illegals since it first started? 35 million dollars

Cost of Romneycare? ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

conservador on November 4, 2011 at 3:57 PM

35M tuition money isn’t the problem. Look at the whole picture. You dont go out of your way to place a welcome mat on the front porch for illegals then turn around and accuse the federal government for not keeping them out.

First remove the welcome mat. Then you have credibility to speak.

hanzblinx on November 4, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Cain Biden will make the perfect VP pick for Mitt.

Punchenko on November 4, 2011 at 4:13 PM

FIFY. You’re welcome ;)

Laura in Maryland on November 4, 2011 at 4:19 PM

That’s the Federal government’s duty to enforce our border
Dr Evil on November 4, 2011 at 4:09 PM

And therein lies the problem per this article on Perry’s position, he won’t enforce the existing law to deport illegals so why would he enforce any other border-related law?
I grant you it’s a moot question, as he will headin’ on back to Houston and be back fulltime at his regular gig in a few months, at the latest.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 4:20 PM

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Rick Perry isn’t the emperor of Texas how much easier life would be if he was, and he could deport large numbers of illegals coming into the state of Texas from all directions including illegally overstaying visas and coming into our air ports, and from other border states once they are in the U.S., but then everyone would complain because Texas has always been one kind of republic or another, and Perry can’t impose his will on the state ofTexas or any other border state inside the United States.

Dr Evil on November 4, 2011 at 4:26 PM

proposes policies that might enable the U.S. economy to legitimately benefit from the productivity of non-U.S. citizen workers.

At a time of high unemployment, that might not be a top concern.

Did you read that before you wrote it? It is a huge concern, in a period of high unemployment, when a supposedly conservative nominee for the GOP nomination wants to benefit from the productivity of non-US citizen workers. What about jobs for U.S. citizens in periods of high unemployment?

Thankfully, the voters seem to be seeing through Perry’s nonsense. Less-thankfully, the alternatives are not a ton better. (But better they are.)

athenanyc on November 4, 2011 at 4:27 PM

The Mitt Romney campaign recently launched its first paid attack on Rick Perry — a series of robo calls in Iowa

robo-Mittens, nothing new from him.

maverick muse on November 4, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Give a link where Perry said he wouldn’t enforce existing law.
cartooner on November 4, 2011 at 4:16 PM

You didn’t read the article in the blog post here? All you have to do is scroll up. Perry is against the existing law which requires deportation of illegals and is quite clear that he would have no intention of enforcing it. He wants to create a new law that provide “visas” instead. Fortunately for America, Perry won’t get a chance to not enforce or to undo the deportation rule altogether.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Cain Biden McCain will make the perfect VP pick for Mitt.

lol

maverick muse on November 4, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Cost of in state tuition for illegals since it first started? 35 million dollars

Cost of Romneycare? ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

conservador on November 4, 2011 at 3:57 PM

35M tuition money isn’t the problem. Look at the whole picture. You dont go out of your way to place a welcome mat on the front porch for illegals then turn around and accuse the federal government for not keeping them out.

First remove the welcome mat. Then you have credibility to speak.

hanzblinx on November 4, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Romney was for amnesty, you know that right?
You have no cred, neither does Romney. Anyone who subscribes to the “welcome mat, magnets” theories are simple minded kids who don’t have a grasp of reality. Ever since 1987, after Reagan gave amnesty, illegals have come for jobs and we have done nothing about it. It is stupid to say someone placed “the welcome mat.”

Again $35 million in cost to educate the weakest links in society, and after they paid taxes in property or sales into the resident status. $35 million is the cost of 3 1/2 miles of border fence. These educated illegals will do two things, make more money and contribute to society or eventually be deported and never come back because their education will make them the most highly sought after human capital. That is called problem solving. Stop reading those FAIR and NumbersUSA emails, and use your head.

conservador on November 4, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Rick Perry isn’t the emperor of Texas
Dr Evil on November 4, 2011 at 4:26 PM

No, no, no. We’re talking about – as he is – Perry as President. No interest in following the deportation law according to this article. As I said, luckily he won’t have the chance to implement his policies anywhere other than in Texas.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Again $35 million in cost to educate the weakest links in society
conservador on November 4, 2011 at 4:30 PM

The weakest links of a foreign society. Have their country apply for even more Foreign Aid from Americans.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Babeau doesn’t mention, however, that Perry also supports work visas for illegal immigrants — perhaps because Perry only recently prominently articulated that position:

We as a country should have gotten behind a guest-worker program a very long time ago (with stiff penalties for those who enter here illegally and work without guest worker visas, as well as penalties for those who hire them).

Texas Gov. Rick Perry proposed the federal government should extend work visas allowing illegal immigrants to move freely between the U.S. and their home countries — but stressed that he opposes amnesty or a path to citizenship.

Maybe it’s just how this is written (poorly?) but if you have a visa to work here then you’re not an “illegal immigrant”.

Buy Danish on November 4, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Not linking as I’m not in the mood to provide “material” to non-Perry supporters.

gophergirl on November 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM

I can find links all by self. What, non-Perry suporters shouldn’t look? Interesting way to promote your guy.

katy the mean old lady on November 4, 2011 at 4:43 PM

You didn’t read the article in the blog post here? All you have to do is scroll up. Perry is against the existing law which requires deportation of illegals and is quite clear that he would have no intention of enforcing it. He wants to create a new law that provide “visas” instead. Fortunately for America, Perry won’t get a chance to not enforce or to undo the deportation rule altogether.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 4:27 PM

If you had a brain you’d take it out and play with it. Your reading comprehension skills suck. Wanting or being willing to change a law doesn’t mean one has “no intention of enforcing it” much less being “quite clear” about no enforcement. You make up crap on people that is false. Perry has a lot of experience as the executive of the 2nd largest and fastest growing state, I think he knows his legal obligations.
You have so many opinions on that border for someone who knows next to nothing about it.

cartooner on November 4, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Romney continues to rack up endorsements while everyone else is concentrating on Cain’s scandal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/exclusive-interview-paul-ryan-has-nothing-but-praise-for-romney-plan/2011/11/04/gIQAgUaSmM_blog.html

Also beats them all combined:
2012 Endorsement Watch
Roll Call is tracking the Member endorsements in the 2012 GOP presidential race. Only candidates who have endorsements from Members are listed. If a Member is missing from this list, email 2012Presidential@cqrollcall.com.
Mitt Romney (36)
Sen. Roy Blunt (Mo.)
Sen. Scott Brown (Mass.)
Sen. Thad Cochran (Miss.)
Sen. Orrin Hatch (Utah)
Sen. James Risch (Idaho)
Rep. Rodney Alexander (La.)
Rep. Mark Amodei (Nev.)
Rep. Judy Biggert (Ill.)
Rep. Rob Bishop (Utah)
Rep. Mary Bono Mack (Calif.)
Rep. John Campbell (Calif.)
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (Utah)
Rep. Howard Coble (N.C.)
Rep. Ander Crenshaw (Fla.)
Rep. Jeff Flake (Ariz.)
Rep. Virginia Foxx (N.C.)
Rep. Tim Griffin (Ark.)
Rep. Michael Grimm (N.Y.)
Rep. Nan Hayworth (N.Y.)
Rep. Joe Heck (Nev.)
Rep. Wally Herger (Calif.)
Rep. Darrell Issa (Calif.)
Rep. Connie Mack IV (Fla.)
Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (Mich.)
Rep. Patrick McHenry (N.C.)
Rep. Buck McKeon (Calif.)
Rep. Jeff Miller (Fla.)
Rep. Jim Renacci (Ohio)
Rep. Hal Rogers (Ky.)
Rep. Mike Rogers (Ala.)
Rep. Todd Rokita (Ind.)
Rep. Tom Rooney (Fla.)
Rep. Mike Simpson (Idaho)
Rep. Lamar Smith (Texas)
Rep. Greg Walden (Ore.)
Rep. Ed Whitfield (Ky.)
Rick Perry (14)
Sen. James Inhofe (Okla.)
Rep. John Carter (Texas)
Rep. Mike Coffman (Colo.)
Rep. Mike Conaway (Texas)
Rep. John Culberson (Texas)
Rep. Sam Graves (Mo.)
Rep. Jeb Hensarling (Texas)
Rep. Sam Johnson (Texas)
Rep. Kenny Marchant (Texas)
Rep. Michael McCaul (Texas)
Rep. Candice Miller (Mich.)
Rep. Mick Mulvaney (S.C.)
Rep. Steve Scalise (La.)
Rep. Pete Sessions (Texas)
Newt Gingrich (4)
Rep. Joe Barton (Texas)
Rep. Michael Burgess (Texas)
Rep. Jack Kingston (Ga.)
Rep. Tom Price (Ga.)
Ron Paul (3)
Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.)
Rep. Justin Amash (Mich.)
Rep. Walter Jones Jr. (N.C.)

g2825m on November 4, 2011 at 4:47 PM

I can find links all by self. What, non-Perry suporters shouldn’t look? Interesting way to promote your guy.

katy the mean old lady on November 4, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Sorry – was a little cranky when I posted that.

gophergirl on November 4, 2011 at 4:49 PM

A serious man for serious times:

http://mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-view/2011/11/romney-presents-plan-turn-around-federal-government

http://mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-view/2011/11/mitt-romney-delivers-remarks-fiscal-policy

These go along with his Foreign Policy speeches, job recovery, etc etc…

g2825m on November 4, 2011 at 4:50 PM

3. Perry has the money, has the organization, and if he can get back up on his feet, he has Sarah Palin.

Yes, he is Romney’s biggest threat.

Sekhmet on November 4, 2011 at 3:52 PM

I remember a bunch of Palin supporters saying similar things about Sarah…where is she now in the race?

Perry has about as much of a chance to win as Huntsman does. When you see in time that I’m right, I hope you’ll ask yourself, “What did Bizarro know about that Perry and his (un)electabilty that I didn’t?” :)

Bizarro No. 1 on November 4, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Wanting or being willing to change a law doesn’t mean one has “no intention of enforcing it” much less being “quite clear” about no enforcement.
cartooner on November 4, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Hard to find one coherent sentence in all those ramblins. Glad I didn’t ask if you think committing a crime is illegal or not.

But at any rate, Perry either wants to follow the deportation law or he doesn’t. As upsetting as it is to hear it, his answer – at least for now – is he would take a pass on enforcing the deportation law if he were elected. His weakness on the illegal issues have already hurt him very badly – attacking the Republicans base on it obviously didn’t help much either – so this is just one more in the FAIL column for him re: the illegal problem.

whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 5:02 PM

g2825m on November 4, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Exactly, the proposals in USA today and what he presented in front of the Tea Party group are terrific.

nswider on November 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM

I’m voting national defense, constitutional conservative, lower taxes and the cut-federal-bureaucracy platform.

Romney? What’s the point of voters choosing Obama-lite since this election is the last ditch effort to reinstate our Constitutional Republic? No. Save the Dollar, the Constitution, and America. Far better Paul
than Romney. Coalitions deserve observation as well. Read Paul’s independent endorsements from Israel, including Zionists. Paul has more military personnel support than any other candidate.

Propagandists make Perry look admirable in commercials. I’m not a sucker for ads. Perry’s a scare crow that birds sh!t on. Let Dorothy love him.

…where Perry said he wouldn’t enforce existing law.

Actions speak louder…Bill of Rights

Perry/Dewhurst blinked twice, TX Bill v. TSA groping. When Obama/Holder threatened to boycott TX airports, that was the showdown. Perry folded, allowing the TSA to treat everyone in Texas as a criminal when traveling.

Were Obama’s administration to actually attempt to enforce their threat, there’d be such a public outcry, someone in Congress might even have shown the balls to initiate both Obama and Holder impeachments. Meanwhile, Texas should have countered Obama’s threat with our own to withhold our taxes from the Feds. And the Feds can’t order foreign airlines to not do business with Texas, etc. Obama can’t convincingly declare war on Texas and expect the nation to support kinetic military action against US citizens stateside. Not this year, anyway. Whatever the mess, it was the time and place to settle it then and there, legally challenging Obama’s official abuses.

Perry, whatever his virtues may be, never refrains from abusing powers to violate the constitutional rights of US citizenry when given an opportunity, always quoting the best of intentions for our own good. Economically, his exerts executive over-reach in spending, augmenting State government with more bureaucratic jobs at taxpayer expense. As for his alliances, he’s politically owned by the globalist investment industry, which translates into higher taxes to fund corrupt bail-outs of frauds, looking towards bailing out the EU next.

maverick muse on November 4, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Everyone needs to click on the links above I posted at 4:50PM and read the speeches Romney gave…

To borrow a phrase used recently, “hit it out of the park!”

How a person can read this and still claim Romney is not conservative then I do not know what you claim it is as more and more people know he is A LEADER to lead us out of the misery we are in during this, the second Carter Administration.

g2825m on November 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Palin doesn’t need to endorse anyone. If indeed she wants to be considered again for the GOP VP ticket, why endorse one candidate over another? If “no” means no involvement as a VP candidate, either, nothing has ever kept Palin from speaking her mind.

maverick muse on November 4, 2011 at 5:14 PM

Paul has more military personnel support than any other candidate.

Maverick,
I can tell you for a fact as a military member sitting here in AFG right now and spending the last 6 years in Iraq that is false about Paul!

Romney because of his support of the military, as he again today, is the only one saying he is going to rebuild the AF and Navy to where we should be to be a strong nation and deter anyone who thinks they can mess with us. The military over here has many backing Romney.
Paul scares us with his naivety about the world threats.

g2825m on November 4, 2011 at 5:15 PM

g2825m
Even you’ve heard:
Words? Just words.
Talk is cheap.

maverick muse on November 4, 2011 at 5:16 PM

This is what Tina’s constant posts of defending Perry have become:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

sheryl on November 4, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Crash and Burn, Mav…Crash and Burn

g2825m on November 4, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Because what an economy suffering from high unemployment and declining wages really needs is to import millions of low-wage workers.

Jon0815 on November 4, 2011 at 3:11 PM

Fact, there are jobs in this country, usually janitorial or agricultural, that Americans just will not do.

Here in CO, we have a Western Slope farmer who did everything he could to hire Americans, it’s actually cheaper than legal foreign help, and just couldn’t find the people, despite fairly good wages. They would rather sit around watching TV on unemployment. For foreign workers, he has to pay over $10/hr, plus room and board and free benefits.

We have another business who’s business is expanding and who advertised a number of jobs around $8/hour. She had hundreds of applicants, but only one person showed up for an interview. It turned out that the others were just filling their unemployment committment to apply for jobs, they don’t actually want one. When the story came out in the news, she was demonized for only paying $8/hr for these low-skilled entry-level jobs.

Perhaps the real answer is to limit unemployment and food stamps to a few weeks, then maybe these people would be more willing to get off their duffs and work.

My family attended a funeral for an 97 year old man a few weeks ago. The service was full of wonderful stories about his life and family. One of the points emphasized was that during the Depression, they were desparate for work and would do ANYTHING for some money in order to eat. He had to leave home and support himself in high school because his family couldn’t afford to feed him. He slept in a barn until his coach found him some menial labor at a dairy so that he could eat. We as Americans no longer have that attitude. There are some exceptions, but many are spoiled and lazy and will not work.

People from elsewhere in this world are like our families during the Depression, willing to do anything to make something of themselves and improve the lives of their children. My brother owns a warehouse business. He’s rather hire a hard-working Mexican any day than a lazy American, black or white. I see Mexicans on their way to work on bikes, crammed into one truck, doing anything they can to get to work. They’re out there in the heat and the cold while spoiled Americans are sipping their Starbucks.

Texas has always had a close relationship with Mexico, they used to be part of the country. Until the 90s, the border was fairly open for workers and families. With the failure of the War on Drugs, that is no longer possible. Perry has stated many times that just a fence is not the answer, it would cost billions and take 15 years to build, even Bachmann’s super-duper double-width, double-height fence. He says there are places were a fence makes sense strategically but the real answer is patrolling by drones and ‘boots on the ground’. Texas has spent more than $400 million protecting the border, doing the job the Feds won’t do, yet he’s constantly portrayed as soft on illegals. In-state tuition was a state decision based on the needs of it’s citizens, the legislature was in almost 100% agreement, as is Marco Rubio. Texas isn’t allowed to deport the students or their families and the Feds won’t do it and the Texas people don’t want yet more people on the dole. This is something that they thought would help. People and politicians that don’t live along the border really don’t have a valid opinion of what works and what doesn’t. Perry has walked the walk.

The real answer needs to control the border in order to prevent criminals and terrorists from entering while creating a streamlined path to citizenship for those who want to live her permanently and can contribute to our society. We also need a strong worker program where people come here to work, then go home.

Common Sense on November 4, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Yeah, to heck with enforcing existing law which requires illegals to be deported. Let’s give them more freebies and provide even more incentives for illegals to flood the country…
whatcat on November 4, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Good luck with that!

The governors of Oklahoma, Arizona, Georgia, and Alabama have all taken solid – demonstrably effective – steps to battle their illegals problem.
Rebar on November 4, 2011 at 3:28 PM

That’s true in part, but the fact is that farmers/agri-businesses in Georgia protested these rules because they don’t have the workers they need to function. Time will tell how right they were and if our local/state economy suffered (not to mention the harm done to the general populace as products become scarce, raising their price).

Georgia’s E-Verify law along with a guest worker program would be the optimal solution.

Buy Danish on November 4, 2011 at 5:20 PM

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