CNN Political Ticker: “‘Fast and Furious’ flap likely to linger”

posted at 4:53 pm on November 3, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Ya think? And since when is it acceptable to refer to an operation that resulted in the deaths of at least 200 Mexicans and some 11 violent crimes in the U.S. as a “flap”? It’s a “flap” when the president mistakenly refers to 57 states, when he taunts the House of Representatives for reaffirming the national motto in the midst of a jobs crisis, when he tours the country in a Canadian bus to promote the creation of American jobs. It’s a scandal when a bureau within the Justice Department shows “wanton disregard for the law” (to borrow a phrase from a Congressman) to funnel weapons into the hands of Mexican drug lords. I can only hope the hed writer chose the word “flap” for alliterative purposes and not out of a concern for accuracy.

But, then, the reporter had no reason to think F&F is a scandal when his sources downplayed the seriousness of the operation, repeating the line that it was intended to track the weapons and disrupt the power of the drug cartels and suggesting the failure to track the weapons was a mistake of non-monumental proportions:

Congressional committees and the Justice Department’s independent inspector-general are now looking into what happened, with Republicans accusing Attorney General Eric Holder of trying to stiff-arm investigators. But as embarrassing as “Fast and Furious” may be, it’s not in the same league as administration-threatening scandals like Watergate or the Harding administration’s Teapot Dome, University of Virginia analyst Larry Sabato said.

“The only scandals that matter in a presidential year are the ones that directly connect to a president,” Sabato said. He added, “Everybody admits it was a dumb idea,” but similar programs were launched during the Bush administration.

Nor does the controversy about “Fast and Furious” appear to be a mortal threat to anyone’s job at this point, said Peter Toren, a former federal prosecutor and Justice Department official. …

“It’s certainly a black eye for the Justice Department,” which oversees the ATF, Toren said. But he added, “This is more of a botched operation rather than a scandal.”

Sadly, Sabato and Toren are probably right. Despite calls for Eric Holder’s resignation from at least 30 different members of Congress, the AG’s job is probably not in “mortal” jeopardy at the moment — especially thanks to the recent testimony of DOJ criminal division chief Lanny Breuer, who said he failed to warn his superiors (presumably including Holder) about the questionable tactics employed in both Operation Wide Receiver (a similar Bush-era program) and F&F. As Sabato put it, Breuer is “taking one for the team,” leaving Holder in a comfy, cozy spot, insulated from the implication that he had intimate knowledge of the dangerous practices employed under F&F.

Still, even Toren suggests it’s stupid of Holder or anyone in the DOJ to stonewall.

“I think it would be best to get out in front of it, say what really happened and let the chips fall where they may,” he said.

We’ll see if Holder takes that tactic when he testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee next Tuesday.

In the meantime, the Political Ticker article makes me wonder whether I wouldn’t rather the MSM continue to ignore the story.


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Arrest him?

Don L on February 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

AG Holder: That contempt vote? Nah, doesn’t bother me

And why would it? Who is going to hold him to account for anything? He serves at the pleasure of Barack Obama, he does the will of Obama, he keeps Obama from being held accountable for anything he does.

Congress doesn’t have the will or testicular fortitude to pull Erick Holder and Barack Obama’s house of card down, Congress is full of cowards and traitors, and Erick Holder knows it.

SWalker on February 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Nothing bothers crooked thugs.

His boss is a Lilliputian in Chief.

Schadenfreude on February 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM

What difference, at this point, does it make?

rbj on February 28, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Y’all had enough yet? Or are we just gonna sit around and bellyache about it like usual?

beatcanvas on February 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM

AG Holder: That contempt vote? Nah, doesn’t bother me

What does it matter, at this point, anyway?

LetsBfrank on February 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM

bho has been helded in contempt by a judge for his actions on the oil/gas leases in the Gulf and zero has been done about that! NOTHING happens to these below crooked/lying snakes! NONE of them!
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letget on February 28, 2013 at 1:03 PM

But I have to tell you that for me to really be affected by what happened, I’d have to have respect for the people who voted in that way,” Holder told ABC News

 
Those aren’t just “people”. They represent the electorate. Read it again. Realize what he’s saying.

rogerb on February 28, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Just a coupla guys out for a walk.

JeremiahJohnson on February 28, 2013 at 1:08 PM

The Untouchables.

SGinNC on February 28, 2013 at 1:09 PM

“But I have to tell you that for me to really be affected by what happened, I’d have to have respect for the people who voted in that way,” Holder told ABC News. “And I didn’t, so it didn’t have that huge an impact on me.” …

The Holder “justice” department is not focused on the law but on the dictates and whims and obfuscations of a corrupt AG and his toadies. This in-your-face reply by Holder is as contemptuous as are his behaviors.

onlineanalyst on February 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM

That whole tough talk from Darryl Issa……what a hoot that was. Thanks for the laughs Congressman.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. You really had us for awhile thinking that the AG had done something.

Issa, you’re a credit to the Ruling Class, you are.

Gotta admire Holder for his chutzpah. He knows the gop is gutless and he just does what he wants. Wish the Conservatives have had just one of the testicles that the Dems/Progressives seem to have.

PappyD61 on February 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM

But I have to tell you that for me to really be affected by what happened, I’d have to have respect for the people who voted in that way,” Holder told ABC News

Wow, you utter fool – Nixon had to respect the people who downed him?

Hitler had to respect the Russians when they found him?

Holder is a not very smart thug.

Schadenfreude on February 28, 2013 at 1:14 PM

their deadly gunwalking operation, which resulted in the deaths of at least two Americans and countless Mexicans,

Guns don’t kill people!

red_herring on February 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Ya, know, that contempt vote is probably considered a badge of honor to Holder, something to be proud of and highlight in his resume. A small sacrifice, really small, in service to his boss.

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 1:23 PM

…I broke the law…and the law WON!

KOOLAID2 on February 28, 2013 at 1:27 PM

As somebody entering the legal profession, I am increasingly dismayed by the utter contempt for the law and just basic decency that Holder has. The man is an utter disgrace to his profession, and a disgrace to humanity. I spit on him.

Othniel on February 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Everyone knows that the “SS” is above the law.

rplat on February 28, 2013 at 1:29 PM

What’s the current status of the court case on Holder/ Barak O’Nixon’s invocation of executive privilege to hide documents and communications from the American public in the fast and Furious investigation?

Cavalry on February 28, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Please start refering to him as his preferred title of Generalissimo Holder.

acyl72 on February 28, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Defund the racist jerk’s office. And no, I don’t mean Barack Obama – his office, unlike himself, is Constitutional. Dept of Just-Us, just like a hundred of other DC bureaucratic cesspools, is not.

Nah, won’t happen. Balls are a rarity these days.

Archivarix on February 28, 2013 at 1:41 PM

At this point, does anything the dems do really matter, all things considered?

The Repubs are just another arm of this many tentacled devilish octopus…

A few repubs come out every now and again say a few words and sound off, but in the end, what. Nothing fracking happens!

Time money and energy wasted…our time our energy and our money, wasted…

No more.

Until the repubs find the cahones to really do somthing, I will cease believing a damn thing they say.

All talk and no action, no REAL action to speak of.

Smoke and freaking Mirrors…

beatcanvas on February 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM

I have to agree with you…

Scrumpy on February 28, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Two Gulfstream jets that the FBI told Congress would be used primarily for counterterrorism efforts have been used by Holder and Mueller for business and personal reasons – to the tune of $11.4 million – according to a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report requested by Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa. …

This is done on purposeful spite. The media will never report this. If they did, they will say someone from W’s administration once flew on a jet and it also cost ga-zillions. Then proverbial Republicans hate black people for flying on jets, yada yada… Tweets abound & echo of Repub stupidity. It’s a game people. There is zero governance in Washington DC

drivingtheview on February 28, 2013 at 1:55 PM

A couple hundred Mexicans murdered, along with the murder of a couple of border control agents: no biggee.

What difference does it make?

ss396 on February 28, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Who cares? Okay, so Fast and Furious failed, Americans and Mexicans were murdered, and we didn’t get away with exploiting it to increase gun control.

Thankfully, some nut killed a bunch of kids, and now we’ve got an even more emotional situation to exploit to increase gun control. So it all worked out in the end.

The Rogue Tomato on February 28, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Heinrich Luitpold Himmler felt no different.

Schadenfreude on February 28, 2013 at 2:10 PM

That whole tough talk from Darryl Issa……what a hoot that was. Thanks for the laughs Congressman.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. You really had us for awhile thinking that the AG had done something.

Issa, you’re a credit to the Ruling Class, you are.

Gotta admire Holder for his chutzpah. He knows the gop is gutless and he just does what he wants. Wish the Conservatives have had just one of the testicles that the Dems/Progressives seem to have.

PappyD61 on February 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Yes, this is where I say, “I told you so“…

SWalker on February 28, 2013 at 2:16 PM

“I think it’s a result of this kind of partisan sport”

Hey scumbag, 17 D’s supported contempt charges, as well..so sick and tired of MSM not coming back with the obvious gut punch that sits at their frontal lobe….

hillsoftx on February 28, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Government Accountability Office (GAO)

Why don’t we sequester cut this department? It’s a black hole anyway.

LetsBfrank on February 28, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Better question to ask Holder. WHY AREN’T YOU IN PRISON?

GarandFan on February 28, 2013 at 2:50 PM

He’s still in denial, thinking he’s above the law.

sadatoni on February 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM

There is NO answer for addressing ANY of the wrongdoing implemented by this adminstration which relys on the legal process that is the correct answer.

The correct model is The French Revolution.

williamg on February 28, 2013 at 3:16 PM

He’s still in denial, thinking he’s above the law.

Until proven otherwise, he’s not just above the law….he IS the law.

I don’t see any real argument or substantive action from CONgress on the matter. A hollow and useless contempt charge aside.

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Better question to ask Holder. WHY AREN’T YOU IN PRISON?

Holder: “Because my boss won.”

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Here stands a man that really, truly, absolutely, for sure deserves to be posterized with a pencil thin mustache, bolo tie, diamond stud ear ring & behind bars.

RdLake on March 1, 2013 at 1:16 AM