Poll: Texans don’t credit the state’s outsized economy to Perry

posted at 5:25 pm on November 1, 2011 by Tina Korbe

As Rick Perry attempts to rebound in the polls with a concentrated ad campaign and the very apropos slogan, “I’m a doer, not a talker,” the residents of his home state say he really can’t even take credit for Texas’ outsized economy.

According to a University of Texas-Texas Tribune poll, just 21 percent of Texas voters cite Perry’s leadership and policies as the source of Texas’ economic success. In contrast, 65 percent say long-standing policies and natural resources account for the rosy glow of Texas.

Those “long-standing policies” include a balanced budget, the absence of a state personal income tax and a laid-back regulatory environment. Still, just because those policies preceded Perry doesn’t mean he shouldn’t receive some credit for their continuance under him. Consider all the new taxes and regulations the Obama administration has proposed or implemented; Perry could have done the same on the state level. Instead, he promoted lower taxes, further-reduced regulation and a smaller state government.

In many respects, the first rule for politicians should be the same as the first rule for doctors: “First, do no harm.” It’s impressive to me that Perry, as the longest-serving governor of the state of Texas, has done as little damage as he has. More time, more time to make mistakes — and he hasn’t made so many as voters seem to think. Even his controversial immigration policies were highly supported within Texas.

Maybe Texans are just a little embarrassed after Perry’s poor debate performances. Certainly, they don’t think he’s brought positive renown to the state. The same poll showed 37 percent of Texans think Perry’s presidential candidacy has “hurt” the state’s image with voters nationwide, while 19 percent said it has “helped.” Another 34 percent said his candidacy has had “no effect.”

Ouch. Maybe Perry needs to first repair his image at home before he attempts to win the nation. That is, he needs to do more than just state that Texas has grown economically under his leadership. He needs to explain why, to highlight clearly and continually — to voters in Texas and elsewhere — the link between the executive decisions he’s made as the governor and the job creation the state has seen. The case can be made — he just needs to make it.

Incidentally, 52 percent of those polled identified themselves as “slightly conservative,” “somewhat conservative” or “extremely conservative” compared with just 22 percent of those polled who identified themselves as “slightly liberal,” “somewhat liberal” or “extremely liberal.” So, the poll results don’t skew against Perry because those polled oppose his conservatism. The D/I/R percentages were 29/27/34.


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Oops. Texans must be punish Perry cause he is a Christian and doesn’t judge people by their last name.

andy85719 on November 1, 2011 at 5:27 PM

*punishing

andy85719 on November 1, 2011 at 5:27 PM

And most Americans don’t credit this disasterous economy to Obama.

Shocka!

HondaV65 on November 1, 2011 at 5:28 PM

In West Texas Perry gets plenty of the credit for the economy here.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 1, 2011 at 5:28 PM

The crosstabs indicate a Republican sample, but didn’t someone say the Texas Tribune is a Perry-hating far-left paper?

fiatboomer on November 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Texans are heartless!

PappyD61 on November 1, 2011 at 5:31 PM

In other news: one of Cain’s accusers wants to speak out. (Via Drudge)

NickDeringer on November 1, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Well – really … who cares what people think? Seriously – as I mentioned above, most Americans think Obama isn’t responsible for this catastrophic economy.

But, in fact – he IS.

Perry has been Governor of Texas for more than 10 years. If he were a bad Governor the state would be in a sink-hole now. Hell, had Perry chosen – he could have backed some kind of state-wide socialist health care plan with an insurance mandate like some other Governors coughRomneycough.

A good governor knows what buttons to push – and which ones to leave the hell alone and, you can argue that Perry is a heartless SOB and soft on immigration – but you can’t argue his record of success and that success has REAL metrics attached to it that can be proven.

When in the hell did a poll on people’s “feelings” become an acceptable substitute for the “truth”?

HondaV65 on November 1, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Tina said:

Even his controversial immigration policies were highly supported within Texas.

Really? I’d like to see some polling on that. Just because something has a lot of support in the legislature, that does not necessarily mean it has popular support.

Jon0815 on November 1, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Who cares what people think? Um…people who vote.

andy85719 on November 1, 2011 at 5:37 PM

In other news: one of Cain’s accusers wants to speak out. (Via Drudge)

NickDeringer on November 1, 2011 at 5:33 PM

One of Cain’s accusers wants a book deal (ducks).

fiatboomer on November 1, 2011 at 5:37 PM

One of Cain’s accusers wants a book deal (ducks).

fiatboomer on November 1, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Paging Gloria Allred..:)

Dire Straits on November 1, 2011 at 5:38 PM

The Texas Tribune is hardly the sort of publication that should be given credibility.

Hiya Ciska on November 1, 2011 at 5:39 PM

When in the hell did a poll on people’s “feelings” become an acceptable substitute for the “truth”?

HondaV65 on November 1, 2011 at 5:35 PM

a couple of problems with the American political system:

1. Too many polls
2. Too many “experts” analyzing every little thing that goes on

The 24/7 news cycle and “newstainment” culture has been a disaster for America. The truth is often lost.

joey24007 on November 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Wow, validation for my argument. All of Texas is conservative, so imagining that the Governor is the driver of the prosperity seems extremely generous towards the governor and stingy towards the rest of the state.

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 5:41 PM

BTW Perry supporters, I am still waiting for a conservative issue where Perry led from the front and accomplished getting it passed into effect. Just one. Bueller, Bueller, Anyone?

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Beckel just announced on The Five that his sources indicate Perry leaked the Nothinggate. At least that is what I read on Twitter.

andy85719 on November 1, 2011 at 5:43 PM

I will give him credit for staying out of the way of growth. That in itself is an accomplishment.

So are we getting rid of the “Texas is stealing other states’ jobs” meme and going to “Perry hasn’t done anything for the Texas economy”?

obladioblada on November 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

When in the hell did a poll on people’s “feelings” become an acceptable substitute for the “truth”?

HondaV65 on November 1, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Every poll is based on feelings. If it was a review of facts there would be no poll.

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Merck employees take exception to this poll. His mandated injections padded their wallets.

hanzblinx on November 1, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Determining which government official or politician gets credit or blame for the state of an economy shows just how far the U.S. has slid into a socialist like nation. Even Republicans run around claiming that they “created” jobs or that so and so “lost” jobs.

I agree with Honda above in that a politician can be very similar to a sports coach in how they treat what they inherited. Even if Perry gets zero credit, he at least didn’t ruin things — which is what a politician often does.

joey24007 on November 1, 2011 at 5:45 PM

In other news: one of Cain’s accusers wants to speak out. (Via Drudge)

NickDeringer on November 1, 2011 at 5:33 PM

She went to an Ivy League school and now works for the federal government. Need I say more?

parteagirl on November 1, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Even if Perry gets zero credit, he at least didn’t ruin things

Gosh. Somehow, I just want more than that. Am I being unreasonable?

parteagirl on November 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Merck employees take exception to this poll. His mandated injections padded their wallets.

hanzblinx on November 1, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Michelle Bachmann-is that you?

annoyinglittletwerp on November 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Heh, it’s always funny to see your state talked about by peole who don’t live there, here in Texas the Tribune is a joke. That doesn’t mean Perry is responsible for the economy, but just sayin’ the Tribune is a joke.

clearbluesky on November 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

“Instead, he promoted lower taxes, further-reduced regulation and a smaller state government.”

Govenors have great influence on what happens in a State…

… Just look at California.

Seven Percent Solution on November 1, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Even if Perry gets zero credit, he at least didn’t ruin things

Gosh. Somehow, I just want more than that. Am I being unreasonable?

parteagirl on November 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

I suppose you would if you believe in a centrally planned economy. I do not live in Texas but in a northeastern blue state and I can certainly say that it is better to inherit a good system and keep it functioning that way than what most states and the federal government do.

joey24007 on November 1, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Heh, it’s always funny to see your state talked about by peole who don’t live there…

clearbluesky on November 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

just 21 percent of Texas voters cite Perry’s leadership and policies as the source of Texas’ economic success.

So you think it might be as high as 25%?

sharrukin on November 1, 2011 at 5:52 PM

He’s done no harm and he has done very good things as well. Tort reform is huge. The money spent protecting the border is huge (something the U.S. govt is supposed to be taking care of). Texas was just today named the top business climate in America by Site Selection Magazine. Perry’s been leading the state for 10 years, so he gets some credit for that. http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/16721

kerrhome on November 1, 2011 at 5:55 PM

kerrhome on November 1, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Oh and this is not the first time Texas has had that honor. He’s doing things right there. If he transfers what is being done in Texas to the rest of the country, we will benefit.

kerrhome on November 1, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Can’t wait to see the ” at least he didn’t ruin things” bumper sticker../

idesign on November 1, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Beckel just announced on The Five that his sources indicate Perry leaked the Nothinggate. At least that is what I read on Twitter.

andy85719 on November 1, 2011 at 5:43 PM

God, I hope not. Not all that crazy about Perry, but this would cook his goose fer sgr.

katy the mean old lady on November 1, 2011 at 5:57 PM

According to a University of Texas-Texas Tribune poll, just 21 percent of Texas voters cite Perry’s leadership and policies as the source of Texas’ economic success. In contrast, 65 percent say long-standing policies and natural resources account for the rosy glow of Texas.

either way, more than 21% have certainly voted for him time and time again.

joey24007 on November 1, 2011 at 5:57 PM

BTW Perry supporters, I am still waiting for a conservative issue where Perry led from the front and accomplished getting it passed into effect. Just one. Bueller, Bueller, Anyone?

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Trial Lawyers Prep for War on Rick Perry

Common Sense on November 1, 2011 at 5:57 PM

So you think it might be as high as 25%?

sharrukin on November 1, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Nah, if anything it’s probably lower, the Texas Lege only meets every other year and most of us prefer they just stay out of the way regardless of party.

clearbluesky on November 1, 2011 at 6:01 PM

I’ve lived in Texas all my life. This is the first time I’ve heard of the Texas Tribune. As for the University of Texas, it’s as Marxist in its leanings as any large university these days. So… you’re basing an article on how (all) Texans supposedly don’t credit Perry much for the state’s economic success on that poll? Knowing how little faith people place in politically-driven polls generally nowadays, let alone the collaborators on this one? Texans might have some issues with Perry, but the economy isn’t one of them… good grief…

fabrexe on November 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Had this bookmarked for awhile!
===============================

Who Benefited from Job Growth In Texas?
***************************************
A Look at Employment Gains for Immigrants and the Native-Born, 2007 to 2011

http://www.cis.org/immigrants-filled-most-new-jobs-in-Texas

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Who Benefited from Job Growth In Texas?
A Look at Employment Gains for Immigrants
and the Native-Born, 2007 to 2011
Sept 2011
*********
*********

Governor Rick Perry (R-Texas) has pointed to job growth in Texas during the current economic downturn
as one of his main accomplishments.

But analysis of Current Population Survey (CPS) data collected
by the Census Bureau show that immigrants (legal and illegal) have been the primary beneficiaries of
this growth since 2007, not native-born workers. This is true even though the native-born accounted for the vast
majority of growth in the working-age population (age 16 to 65) in Texas.

Thus, they should have received the
lion’s share of the increase in employment. As a result, the share of working-age natives in Texas holding a job has
declined in a manner very similar to the nation a whole.
(More…….)

http://www.cis.org/articles/2011/immigrant-job-growth-texas.pdf

canopfor on November 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM

Trial Lawyers Prep for War on Rick Perry
Common Sense on November 1, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Imagine if Rick Perry manages to get tort reform, and tax reform passed at the federal level. What if people could actually do their taxes on a post card. We have a glut of practicing lawyers in this country. I know, they could all go into politics……..oh wait.

Dr Evil on November 1, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Common Sense on November 1, 2011 at 5:57 PM

That is a nice feather for Perry to have in his cap..:)

Dire Straits on November 1, 2011 at 6:08 PM

canopfor on November 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM

Have a look at the agenda and history of the CIS. I certainly wouldn’t be caught dead in the same room with anyone associated with them.

Hiya Ciska on November 1, 2011 at 6:11 PM

And as any southern minister would say, and now for the good news ;)

Election 2012: Wisconsin President
Wisconsin: Perry 46%, Obama 42%

Perry is doing well in Wisconsin. You would think he would be doing poorly, in a state where the public sector unions are pushing back against TEA party candidates, like their Governor Walker.

Dr Evil on November 1, 2011 at 6:17 PM

fabrexe on November 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM

I had higher hopes for the Texas Tribune when it started. I’m afraid I was wrong.

cozmo on November 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Govenors have great influence on what happens in a State…

… Just look at California.

Seven Percent Solution on November 1, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Seven Percent Solution:Ahem,in Arnies case,ahem,he had other
problems,er,distraction from his duties,
*Cough-cough*!(sarc):)

canopfor on November 1, 2011 at 6:23 PM

canopfor on November 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM
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Have a look at the agenda and history of the CIS. I certainly wouldn’t be caught dead in the same room with anyone associated with them.

Hiya Ciska on November 1, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Hiya Ciska:Duly noted,I will vet,the PDF Survey thingy reports
for now on,on,who is backing them!!!

canopfor on November 1, 2011 at 6:26 PM

Regarding that cis piece: People who already lived in Texas had jobs a plenty. More jobs were created. Therefore other people moved to Texas to work in those new jobs.

Therefore more new jobs went to immigrants than to prior residents. Of course those immigrants were primarily US citizens and/or permanent residents of these United States. But cis wants the reader to believe that Rick Perry gave jobs to illegals.

Classic case of psychological disinformation. cis must be channeling the ghost of Robert S. McNamara. Cagey Bee types are harder to detect.

Oilpatcher on November 1, 2011 at 6:34 PM

What’s the Texas Tribune? Never heard of it.

kg598301 on November 1, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Such crap.

Hey Teen, Guess WHO the Texas Tribune and UT Austin thinks is a super-duper President and should be re-elected a 2nd and 3rd term????

Marcus on November 1, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Texas was in good shape when Perry became governor, but the US economy was too.

Perry has maintained job growth and services in the worst financial collapse in decades. As the US overall lost jobs, Texas kept gaining jobs.

The most recent budget shows the first actual budget cut over previous since WW2.

Texas received a credit upgrade, as opposed to the US’s downgrade.

When Perry became governor, TX has the 6th lowest debt per capita–now it has the second lowest debt per capita.

The issues I just listed are the most important issues for the US, and Perry had a record of dealing with them successfully.

In regards to the survey, I would like to point out that ever since Perry announced for president, the national media and liberal TX media have been attacking Texas’ economic record. One survey shows the number of negative to positive stories is a 9-1 ratio. The Texas Tribune is a lefty site that has been on the attack.

juliesa on November 1, 2011 at 6:40 PM

canopfor on November 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM

That study was poorly done, comparing apples and oranges.

http://www.texaspolicy.com/pdf/2011-10-PB45-TexasModel-WhoReallyGetsTexasJobs-CFP-ChuckDeVore.pdf

juliesa on November 1, 2011 at 6:43 PM

“According to a University of Texas-Texas Tribune poll…”

That’s as far as I need to read. A UT-based political poll? Bzzzt. Plus, Perry’s an Aggie, an arch nemesis of UT society.

Is Perry as highly regarded by Texans now? No, because familiarity breeds contempt. He’s been Governor as long as anyone in Texas’ history. As far as attributing an exact number on that discontent, I’m not about to accept the outcome from a politically oriented UT poll.

And FTR I support Cain over Perry, so this is not Perrybotism.

AnonymousDrivel on November 1, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Texas, here we come From the Economist, it shows the migration pattern of people moving to Texas vs another map of people leaving California.

It’s a Texedus y’all.

Dr Evil on November 1, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Perry has done an acceptable job of continuing and even expanding on (e.g. tort reform) the commonsense, market-based policies that are responsible for the economic vitality in Texas. What’s becoming increasingly clear, though, is that he doesn’t have what it takes to make a persuasive case for similar policies on a nationwide basis. America needs someone who is a doer AND a compelling, articulate talker as well. Perry just assumed that everyone would desire his leadership because everyone wants to live in a prosperity-enabling environment like Texas. But there’s a big difference between maintaining the status quo in a limited government state such as Texas and aggressively dismantling the bloated and oppressive federal government.

texasentrepreneur on November 1, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Here is Forbes Map of migration inside the continental U.S. blue lines coming in -red lines going out.

Dr Evil on November 1, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Texans are not dumb after all.

Falz on November 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Gosh. Somehow, I just want more than that. Am I being unreasonable?

parteagirl on November 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

The executive can do a lot of damage, so one who understands what caused the success and consciously resists efforts to mess it up gets credit. But Perry has done more–tort reform and loser pays, which were accomplished despite the desperate efforts of the trial lawyers have really helped businesses, especially small ones.

Plus, he is steering the TX economy through a world financial crisis that previous governors didn’t have to deal with. and he’s cut the budget for the first time since WW2, while reducing debt and getting TX a credit upgrade. You know, the kind of stuff at which the US is failing miserably.

juliesa on November 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Beckel just announced on The Five that his sources indicate Perry leaked the Nothinggate. At least that is what I read on Twitter.

andy85719 on November 1, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Oh, this will be fascinating. Can’t wait to see if the Cain supporters buy into Bob Beckel’s “anonymous sources”. lol

kg598301 on November 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM

BTW Perry supporters, I am still waiting for a conservative issue where Perry led from the front and accomplished getting it passed into effect. Just one. Bueller, Bueller, Anyone?

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 5:42 PM

I’m Perry-agnostic at this point, but the lack of an issue where Perry led from the front doesn’t bother me much. My ideal state government sits in the back and shuts up unless directly asked for its opinion.

Mary in LA on November 1, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Google: Perry invites companies to move to Texas.

Apparently he does this on a regular basis if people are moving into Texas for work, he knows he needs companies, and businesses to provide jobs for the residents and newcomers.

Dr Evil on November 1, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Google: Perry invites companies to move to Texas.

Of course he does, he recruits businesses into Texas all the time. But this is a Perry-hatin’ thread, so don’t wear out your fingers Dr. E!

kg598301 on November 1, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Oh, this will be fascinating. Can’t wait to see if the Cain supporters buy into Bob Beckel’s “anonymous sources”. lol

kg598301 on November 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Oh, this should be amusing…

JohnGalt23 on November 1, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Oh, this should be amusing…

JohnGalt23 on November 1, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Get yer popcorn! Or, we can just wait for the inevitable new thread. You know it’s coming.

kg598301 on November 1, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Any Cain supporters watch Fox’s Special Report? They interviewed Cain tonight. He couldn’t give a sensible answer to anything. Disaster! Better hope Perry gets better on debating or we will be having to vote Romney.

Oleta on November 1, 2011 at 7:27 PM

As a winter Texan is doesn’t sound like the Texans I know! Perry has done a lot of good for the state including going aftre the EPA their regualtions, spending millions on border security etc.

Bullhead on November 1, 2011 at 7:35 PM

WAtched Cain tonight and I thought he gave the same answer he gave before on the abortion issue-let the family decide That is not pro life!

Bullhead on November 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Oleta on November 1, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Well Perry gave a great speech in NH, it was energetic and funny- but the consensus here was that he must have been drunk. So much for the calls for him to liven up. :(

kg598301 on November 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Beckel should be fired from FOx.

Bullhead on November 1, 2011 at 7:37 PM

I’m Perry-agnostic at this point, but the lack of an issue where Perry led from the front doesn’t bother me much. My ideal state government sits in the back and shuts up unless directly asked for its opinion.

Mary in LA on November 1, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Right now the law states the government is right in the front in total control of the vehicle. So, your ideal candidate for president is one that leaves it as is?

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 7:41 PM

BTW Perry supporters, I am still waiting for a conservative issue where Perry led from the front and accomplished getting it passed into effect. Just one. Bueller, Bueller, Anyone?

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Malpractice reform. Under Bush, per year as an OBGYN I paid 38,000.00 dollars. Under Perry, 16,000.00. And he wasn’t “backseat”, he was out in front of it.

Marcus on November 1, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Well Perry gave a great speech in NH, it was energetic and funny- but the consensus here was that he must have been drunk. So much for the calls for him to liven up.:(

kg598301 on November 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM

It was funny especially about the part where even Timothy Geithner, could complete his taxes and get them turned in on time. Perry knows there has been some criticism of his performance on the campaign trail so he tried to liven it up for folks to see, he’s enjoying campaigning.

The media’s expectation is cookie cutter made for tv performances. That’s okay, but not even Obama fits that standard. Ed’s made a list of them, they are called, Obamateurism and before Obama, they were called Bushisms by the liberals.

Dr Evil on November 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Beckel should be fired from FOx.

Bullhead on November 1, 2011 at 7:37 PM

I can’t believe, that Beckel believes, half the horseshit, he’s shoveling on air.

Dr Evil on November 1, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Anyone ever watch the movie, ‘Chicago’? The press jumped from one splashy headline to another. Seems like what is going on now. Meanwhile Greece is cutting their own throats and will probably take down the world economy at the same time. Jobless rates are skyhigh, my electric bill is going up and we’re worried if Cain who still can’t explain his simple 999 plan without leaving questions in my mind was guilty 12 years ago of some thingy with a female employee. Oh, and what’s the latest with the maple syrup?

Kissmygrits on November 1, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Malpractice reform. Under Bush, per year as an OBGYN I paid 38,000.00 dollars. Under Perry, 16,000.00. And he wasn’t “backseat”, he was out in front of it.

Marcus on November 1, 2011 at 7:46 PM

I knew Texas was doing something about that. It does seem to be a Perry out front and center on it as well. Thanks.

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 8:24 PM

As a Texan, I want to re-iterate some of what has already been said:

1. Perry was Governor for 10 years; just not screwing the Texas economy up during these years was no small feat.

2. He was out front on tort reform which was and is critical to the health care industry in Texas; and he took a lot of heat doing so.

3. Such short memories – does no one remember his firm stance that the Texas budget would be balanced by spending cuts this past Spring? Very unpopular with the government employees. Imagine applying that attitude to the federal government.

4. His wooing of businesses to locate here has been successful and he should get credit for that.

Yes, Texas has a lot going for it otherwise – a legislature that is only allowed to meet for a few months every two years, a housing market that did not climb and crash, no state income taxes, etc. so was he the most important factor? Probably not, but he certainly was one of the important factors.

Finally, like other Texans here, I have never heard of the Tribune.

Over50 on November 1, 2011 at 8:48 PM

My initial concern about Perry was that he was just a pair of boots and a smile. He comes from a blood red state that has a structure that lends itself to conservatism on top of a deep red population. Who could have been governor and not had outstanding economic success?

Top ten cities in America.

1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. Chicago
4. Houston
5. Philadelphia
6. Phoenix
7. San Antonio
8. San Diego
9. Dallas
10.San Jose

That is not stiff competition. California is an anti-business nightmare. Chicago is Chicago. The only competition is Phoenix. Texas could be less business friendly and still produce a great economy with the other population centers literally driving them businesses.

Theworldisnotenough on November 1, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Right now the law states the government is right in the front in total control of the vehicle. So, your ideal candidate for president is one that leaves it as is?

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Uh, no. I’m just saying that if it were demonstrated to me that Perry is not an activist governor, that one datum would not weigh against him in my opinion.

Though I understand and sympathize with the feelings of the folks who don’t think any of the current crop is conservative enough to be worth supporting, I’m in the “hold my nose and vote (R) in November” camp. Three words: Supreme Court Justices.

Mary in LA on November 1, 2011 at 9:04 PM

Like Over50 and a few others, color me skeptical. And I do smell a rat. Anything that comes out of UT Austin should be suspect. It’s on per with Cal-Berkeley. And that Tribune, from what I’ve read, takes it’s journalistic cues from the NY Times, for what that’s worth. It’s trash. I’d be real curious about their methodology, how questions were framed, etc. Perry is a pretty popular guy here in Houston.

av8tr on November 1, 2011 at 9:09 PM

I don’t care if there’s an R or a D behind their names…none of these politicians are going to create jobs…only the private sector will create jobs. Public sector jobs don’t count in my book because they’re dependent upon revenue from the private sector, and increasing them only hurts the private sector, especially in dismal economic times such as these.

Unlike many here, it’s not that I think they’re unnecessary, but rather it’s not fiscally responsible to add more government jobs than are what are actually necessary.

In short, I’m tired of Conservatives claiming that their favorite horse in the race “created” X number of jobs, when in fact they didn’t and they can’t.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 1, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Mary in LA on November 1, 2011 at 9:04 PM

I like Bachmann.
Starting to relook at Gingrich.
Think Perry has potential.
Think Cain already blew his potential. I wonder if he smokes like Obama, but uses a different plant some days.
Santorum stands no chance.
The rest of them, I will not vote for. Perry, Huntsman and Ron Paul would all get me to vote Obama.

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 9:32 PM

Perry, Huntsman and Ron Paul would all get me to vote Obama.

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 9:32 PM

None of those chaps would get me to stay home — remember, there will be down-ticket races, after all! — but in the case of the latter two, at least, I would have to write somebody in for President rather than pull the (R) lever.

“President A. Stoner II” has a nice ring to it, I think. :-)

Mary in LA on November 1, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Oh, and what’s the latest with the maple syrup?

Kissmygrits on November 1, 2011 at 7:56 PM

I don’t know, but if New Hampshire is bottling some special in their maple syrup, they might want to think about exporting it to the rest of the 49 states :)

Dr Evil on November 1, 2011 at 9:41 PM

BTW Perry supporters, I am still waiting for a conservative issue where Perry led from the front and accomplished getting it passed into effect. Just one. Bueller, Bueller, Anyone?

astonerii on November 1, 2011 at 5:42 PM

One thing in particular is the Voter ID Bill(SB 14). This was one of Perry’s top agenda items for this last session. The law requires that voters in Texas will be required to produce a simple photo ID to verify their identity before casting their vote.

Of course we are now getting flack from the Justice Dept for this.

And as an emergency item on his agenda this past session, he signed the “Loser Pay” law (HB 274). This law cuts down on frivolous lawsuits, keeping Texas jobs creators in the office and out of the courtroom. The 2011 bill will streamline and lower the cost of litigation in Texas courts, allowing parties to resolve disputes more quickly, fairly and less expensively.

Probably not what you are looking for, but there are quite a few items here. At least you will be better informed for reading it if you choose.

http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/

tmontgomery on November 1, 2011 at 11:18 PM

http://www.cis.org/articles/2011/immigrant-job-growth-texas.pdf

canopfor on November 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM

Dept of Homeland Security databases has the number of combined legal and illegal immigrants at 60,000 not 225,000. I question the numbers in this article.

tmontgomery on November 1, 2011 at 11:36 PM

In short, I’m tired of Conservatives claiming that their favorite horse in the race “created” X number of jobs, when in fact they didn’t and they can’t.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 1, 2011 at 9:13 PM

No, but their candidate can lead the way to making a state more business friendly. Create economic opportunities for the private sector by reducing and eliminating regulations and taxes.

Fight the Federal Government that won’t take care of their Constitutional duties (ie border security), and want to meddle in things that are outside their authority (ie…the EPA interfering with energy production on all fronts).

Candidates may not be soley responsible for job growth, but they play a very important role.

tmontgomery on November 2, 2011 at 12:09 AM

“First, do no harm.”

No no no no no. “First, do no harm to the citizens. If that means you toss thousands of government employees out into the snow, so be it.”

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herself on November 2, 2011 at 4:45 AM

“First, do no harm.”

No no no no no. “First, do no harm to the citizens. If that means you toss thousands of government employees out into the snow, so be it.”

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herself on November 2, 2011 at 4:45 AM

Just what does a government bureaucrat contribute to the United State’s GDP? What do they produce, besides paper that needs pushed around in the form of regulations, and impositions on the citizenry, to collect revenue in the form of higher taxes and onerous fines? It would be cheaper to support them on welfare, than “make work” that suppresses the free market from working.

Dr Evil on November 2, 2011 at 8:31 AM