Contrasts in responses to the Cain sexual harassment allegations

posted at 6:40 pm on October 31, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Herman Cain this morning told Fox News’ Jenna Lee that the sexual assault charge against him, reported by Politico this weekend, was “totally baseless and totally false.” But, before the candidate himself spoke up, pundits and politicians started to cast their own spin on the story. The reactions of three prominent figures — each exactly what you would expect — are a study in contrasts and a reminder of just how powerfully we all view the top items of the day through the prisms of our own pre-formed opinions and personalities.

First, the firebrand:

Ann Coulter reacted in typically incensed fashion, but her outrage didn’t seem to obscure her thinking. On “Geraldo at Large” last night, Coulter released a series of incisive, infuriated remarks.

“I am spitting mad about this attack on Herman Cain,” she said, after first decrying the left’s long history of false accusations of sexual misconduct. “Liberals are terrified of Herman Cain. He is a strong conservative black man. Look at the way they go after Allen West and Michael Steele and they aren’t even running against Obama. They are terrified of strong, conservative, black men.”

Next, the perpetual adviser:

Karl Rove, on the other hand, this morning couldn’t resist giving a little of his own advice to Herman Cain, who, again, at the point of Rove’s comments, had not yet responded directly to the Politico article.

“He’s not denying, but he ain’t responding and that’s not the best place to be,” Rove said. “If these allegations are not true, say they aren’t true and put it behind you. If not, better get everything out sooner rather than later because in a situation like this, if there is something there, that something’s going to come out.”

Rove was particularly troubled by the Cain camp’s apparent unwillingness to answer whether a settlement of any kind had been made. In his remarks today, Cain still did not clear up that question, but again referred the curious to the National Restaurant Association.

Finally, the independent:

Joe Lieberman told Laura Ingraham today he thinks we’d all be better served if we just waited on this story a bit — let the facts emerge before analysis takes place:

“Well, I think the important thing is that nobody should come to any conclusions quickly,” he said. “I think there’ll have to be more that comes out for this to really have an effect.”

As it’s impossible to analyze vaporous nothings, that seems like pretty sound counsel to me. Even now, with the composite of information we’ve received throughout the day, the best response still seems to be: Wait and see.


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davidk on October 31, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Tempest in Zee Teapot….sumpin..sumpin!!

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 6:44 PM

if there is no stained blue dress….then there ain’t a thing to worry about.

make them play by their own playbook.

ted c on October 31, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Paging the MSM. . .John Edwards, line one. . .

RedNewEnglander on October 31, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Today, HA is like the house that hands out fruit and pretzels for Halloween. Live a little…post a Cain thread or something.

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Christien on October 31, 2011 at 6:48 PM

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canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Is any woman safe as long as black men use non-overtly sexual hand gestures?

Laurence on October 31, 2011 at 6:49 PM

You know…

… I’ve been searching all day to find any news or posts here at Hot Air regarding Herman Cain and this issue, but I just can’t find anything.

Maybe I’ll try over at Ace’s…

(be right back)

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Seven Percent Solution on October 31, 2011 at 6:49 PM

“He’s not denying, but he ain’t responding and that’s not the best place to be,” Rove said. “If these allegations are not true, say they aren’t true and put it behind you. If not, better get everything out sooner rather than later because in a situation like this, if there is something there, that something’s going to come out.”

I feel icky about it, but I have to agree with Karl Rove about this. Cain needs to be the one putting out information about this rather than just responding to what others are revealing.

sharrukin on October 31, 2011 at 6:50 PM

If Cain’s version of events are correct, America has a huge problem with defining human behaviour.

OldEnglish on October 31, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Paging the MSM. . .John Edwards, line one. . .

RedNewEnglander on October 31, 2011 at 6:48 PM

RedNewEnglander:In which,Edwards,’America’!(i kid):)

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Is it true that Rove’s white board had a black stick figure hung on a gallows drawn on it? Somebody get the videotape.

jimw on October 31, 2011 at 6:52 PM

I think this “high tech lynching” is going to backfire big time in Cain’s favor. Most people are very indignant that the same treatment given to Clarence Thomas is being dusted off for Herman Cain. This is a truly racist attack on conservative black men and I find it very offensive.

How do liberals get away with the attacks on Cain? Did you all hear the intros on Hannity today where he played a montage of all of the racist comments made by liberals? Truly disgusting.

karenhasfreedom on October 31, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Herman Cain this morning told Fox News’ Jenna Lee that the sexual assault charge against him, reported by Politico this weekend, was “totally baseless and totally false.” But, before the candidate himself spoke up, pundits and politicians started to cast their own spin on the story. The reactions of three prominent figures — each exactly what you would expect — are a study in contrasts and a reminder of just how powerfully we all view the top items of the day through the prisms of our own pre-formed opinions and personalities.
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Tina,yes,interesting,I noticed this brush fire,on the allegation,
last night,and I’ve sat back,watching it develope,er spin,and,
good point!!

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Seven Percent Solution on October 31, 2011 at 6:49 PM

Try Ace’s latest: “Sexual Harassment Thread (Tips & Tricks)”

Christien on October 31, 2011 at 6:54 PM

What next? Does everyone in the Groan Room get to weigh in on what Cain should have done or what the “optics” of the situation are?

There once was a time in America when this kind of mass piling-on, without any named accusers or actual, you know, factual material, would have been laughed away.

Not now. The SCoaMF continues on his merry way, committing new crimes every day, and the “conservative” bloggers are tut-tutting over a possible issue with Cain from more than 20 years ago.

Way to be classy, Tina and Hot Air. At this point, it’s beginning to sound as if some on the right are, shall we say, getting off on this story.

MrScribbler on October 31, 2011 at 6:56 PM

If Cain’s version of events are correct, America has a huge problem with defining human behaviour.

OldEnglish on October 31, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Well yeah!

Anyone who’s been to a management seminar knows the accusers threshold for sexual harassment is somewhere around ankle high.

Any consensual relationship with a supervisor who can affect your job status is automatic discrimination.

Speakup on October 31, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Way to be classy, Tina and Hot Air. At this point, it’s beginning to sound as if some on the right are, shall we say, getting off on this story.

MrScribbler on October 31, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Don’t forget to come back for the QOTD thread tonight. I’m sure it will be loaded with goodies////

Knucklehead on October 31, 2011 at 7:00 PM

As president of the National Restaurant Association, thank goodness he was never called upon to demonstrate the Heimlich Maneuver. Performing CPR on a women these days might get you registered Sex Offender status.

meci on October 31, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Speaking of Anita Hill,this came across the Intell radar,
a few days ago,look’n for a NOVA program!
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Law professor Anita Hill
Oct 26 2011
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The law professor reflects on the 20 years since her controversial testimony in Justice Thomas’ confirmation hearings
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and shares what she makes of the changes to the Supreme Court in the last two decades.

As a young law professor, Anita Hill found herself in a media storm 20 years ago, during Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’ confirmation hearings, and sparked a national debate on sexual harassment and gender equality in politics and the workplace. With more than three decades of legal and academic experience, the Yale law school graduate has worked in private practice and for the federal government and is currently professor of social policy, law and women’s studies at Brandeis. She’s also the author of Speaking Truth to Power and Reimagining Equality.
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canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Is any woman safe as long as black men use non-overtly sexual hand gestures?

Laurence on October 31, 2011 at 6:49 PM

: ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : )

listens2glenn on October 31, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Don’t forget to come back for the QOTD thread tonight. I’m sure it will be loaded with goodies////

Knucklehead on October 31, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Yeah. Music Videos. It’s like VH-1 in there.

portlandon on October 31, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Way to be classy, Tina and Hot Air. At this point, it’s beginning to sound as if some on the right are, shall we say, getting off on this story.

MrScribbler on October 31, 2011 at 6:56 PM

If it bleeds it leads.

the_nile on October 31, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Rove is the last person you want to have commenting on smear tactics.

lexhamfox on October 31, 2011 at 7:06 PM

If Cain’s version of events are correct, America has a huge problem with defining human behaviour.

OldEnglish on October 31, 2011 at 6:50 PM

OldEnglish:And to think,Brit’s get a bad rap!!!!:)

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Karl Rove was sooo brilliant….yet he either didn’t know about George W.’s DUI or stupidly thought it wouldn’t come out before the election, and so what was going to be a rather comfortable victory for Bush turned into the “stolen election” of 2000 and another century of Leftist fantasies and grievances. It hardly mattered how “well” the Bush team handled it – the fact remains that Rove blew it and almost blew the election.

I hardly think Herman Cain or anyone else needs HIS advice.

rockmom on October 31, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Anyone who’s been to a management seminar knows the accusers threshold for sexual harassment is somewhere around ankle high.

That kind of talk may be okay here, but I hope you know better than to use salacious words like “ankle” in a corporate environment.

Fabozz on October 31, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Knucklehead on October 31, 2011 at 7:00 PM
Yeah. Music Videos. It’s like VH-1 in there.

portlandon on October 31, 2011 at 7:03 PM

portlandon:I think,I was the culprit who,ahem,started that,
so,I ah,am trying to not do it,ahem,on QOTD!:)

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Hello Friend..:)

Dire Straits on October 31, 2011 at 7:11 PM

In the 1990′s on the heels of Clinton’s Monica Lewinsky scandal.

Let’s see both obaka’s produce their school records. What?

/Poiitco: Er, urrr. We didn’t count on this result.

Key West Reader on October 31, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Herb Cain has responded..:)

Dire Straits on October 31, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Wasn’t sexual harassment (of course, it wasn’t called that) one of the most common accusations used to justify lynching black men in past centuries? It’s odd that Cain made a comment about “cyber-lynching” and the media are hanging past SH allegations out there. Not sure what to make of it.

Christien on October 31, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Yeah. Music Videos. It’s like VH-1 in there.

portlandon on October 31, 2011 at 7:03 PM

No kidding and it’s become boring and distracting too.

Knucklehead on October 31, 2011 at 7:15 PM

That kind of talk may be okay here, but I hope you know better than to use salacious words like “ankle” in a corporate environment.

Fabozz on October 31, 2011 at 7:08 PM

To say nothing of deep!

massrighty on October 31, 2011 at 7:16 PM

what else is going to be thrown at this guy? Blah.

upinak on October 31, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Isn’t there something like a pesky nondisclosure attached to the settlement(s)?

Legally, nobody involved should be speaking.

He needs his lawyer to explain this extremely clearly for the terminally st00pid and they should be looking to see if someone violated this agreement.

kim roy on October 31, 2011 at 7:20 PM

20 years after Clarence Thomas and here we are. The Left never changes and yet there remains this steadfast belief on the Right that they will somehow reform themselves and be fair and decent, just like we always try to be. As long as we say nothing, close our eyes, suck it up, clench our teeth and our sphincters, and pray really hard! Maybe someday they’ll treat us nicely and with respect!

Has it occurred to anybody on the Right to turn Alinsky-like on Politico and question their credibility and authority to even perform journalism? To laugh and jeer in their faces? Instead we’re all jumping to their beat and dancing to their tune.

rrpjr on October 31, 2011 at 7:23 PM

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Yes, but at least British politicians are experts. Remember Profumo? :)

OldEnglish on October 31, 2011 at 7:27 PM

for any who didn’t watch the panel on Special Report tonite, Juan Williams said the liberal establishment is ‘freaking out’ over the candidacy of Herman Cain. They don’t know what to do about him.

My personal belief, of course I have no evidence, is that it was someone on the liberal side who has been ‘freaking out’ and doing oppo research on Cain and gave the heads up to Politico.

Why not wait until the general? Well, the White House is already attacking Romney–they know how to do that and hope he’s the candidate. Besides, sowing seeds of chaos into the primaries is probably a spectator sport for them.

If Cain is so scary and they don’t know what to do about him, they have to knock him out/down now, not later when his support is so solidified that he gets the nod.

But here we are attacking each other when we really don’t have a clue who is behind this. So why not do the smart thing and attack the progressives because they have just as much, if not more, motive to bring Cain down now.

MaggiePoo on October 31, 2011 at 7:28 PM

HotAir will never allow its contributors to actual endorse a candidate– it’s innuendo, backbiting, what-ifs and the like as that is “good TV.” Cain is a sweet candy to these guys, conservative moneyists like Allah and Tina don’t care how they get their numbers up.

leftnomore on October 31, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Front page is a collage of the many faces of Herman Cain. 10 pics!

tim c on October 31, 2011 at 7:32 PM

So, let’s get this straight.

The OWS bowel movement gets to throw feces at officers, they are given free passes, they are allowed to be violent, they are allowed to be insolent, they are allowed to be disobedient to the state laws. They are allowed to congreate, to defacate on public property; they are allowed to demonstrate, they are allowed to obscufate and they are allowed, with abaondon, to disobeye the law of the land.

Good on you, Obama. Stand with your white males that are aged 19-24. Not exactly the consitutency that you counted on, but … eh. Nobody counted on YOU being such a failure.

We, on the other hand will uphold the law of the land. We will stand with eachother in unison as we uphold the Constitution. We will point at you and laugh at you as you stand with a bunch of 20 something white males who raile against you.

You are so stupid, Obama. Really. You are.

Key West Reader on October 31, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Is any woman safe as long as black men use non-overtly sexual hand gestures?

Laurence on October 31, 2011 at 6:49 PM

It’s such an odd exchange- look at this, my wife comes up to here- that I don’t know what to think. Yes, it could be harmless, but it’s hard to imagine someone engaging in that type of conversation, especially a President or senior executive. I don’t know why that conversation would even come up, it’s certainly not normal and probably impossible to judge outside of the context of that moment.

bayam on October 31, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Lanny Davis, famed advisor to horny democRATS said it well; tell it now, tell it all, tell it your self. Cain still has done none of the above. Epic fail in the making.

borntoraisehogs on October 31, 2011 at 7:36 PM

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:07 PM
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Yes, but at least British politicians are experts. Remember Profumo? :)

OldEnglish on October 31, 2011 at 7:27 PM

OldEnglish:Lol:)

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:48 PM

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM
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Hello Friend..:)

Dire Straits on October 31, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Dire Straits:Hey Dire,hows your Halloween going!?:)

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Herb Cain has responded..:)

Dire Straits on October 31, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Dire Straits:Well played!:)

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Dire Straits:Hey Dire,hows your Halloween going!?:)

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Halloween is fixing to start up big time..We have our treats..Just waiting on the Kids to show up..:)

Dire Straits on October 31, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Just sent the Cain Train $. I like having guy that is not political savvy.

Dingbat63 on October 31, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Dire Straits:Well played!:)

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Thanks..:):)

Dire Straits on October 31, 2011 at 7:56 PM

All Cain all the time.

EnochCain on October 31, 2011 at 7:59 PM

The OWS bowel movement gets to throw feces at officers, they are given free passes, they are allowed to be violent, they are allowed to be insolent, they are allowed to be disobedient to the state laws. They are allowed to congreate, to defacate on public property; they are allowed to demonstrate, they are allowed to obscufate and they are allowed, with abaondon, to disobeye the law of the land.

Key West Reader on October 31, 2011 at 7:32 PM

How long until a muslim group takes over an area in New York and declares that it has its own legal system for handling disputes?

GaltBlvnAtty on October 31, 2011 at 8:12 PM

As a young law professor, Anita Hill found INSERTED herself in a media storm 20 years ago…

canopfor on October 31, 2011 at 7:02 PM

I saw the first few minutes of that horrible show and switched.

She also FOLLOWED him to one or more jobs AFTER the alleged incident occurred. Fail.

fred5678 on October 31, 2011 at 9:22 PM

“He’s not denying, but he ain’t responding and that’s not the best place to be,” Rove said.

This what you told W for the entire course of his Presidency, Karl?

Cylor on November 1, 2011 at 1:01 AM

Uh, hello, does anyone remember Bill Clinton? The guy was a walking sexual harassment case and those were well documented and perverse.

This is just an attempt to get rid of the only conservative left who can win the nomination.

Its stupid, meaningless, and just another example of something that would be ignored if this was a Democrat.

They still havent vetted Barack Obama but they sure are happy to throw anything and everything against the wall and hope something sticks when it comes to a conservative.

If Cain falls because of this after all the things in Obama’s and Clinton’s past that was ignored The country will get what it deserves.

alecj on November 1, 2011 at 1:45 AM

Has the Rapist in Chief chimed in, yet, for benefit of what would get leftist Democrat women off the most?

MNHawk on November 1, 2011 at 6:25 AM

It’s such an odd exchange- Bill Clinton forcing himself onto all those women… compared to Cain’s alleged hand gesture/lip smacking…

bayam on October 31, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Fixed, for the garbage that circled the wagons around Bill Clinton.

MNHawk on November 1, 2011 at 6:28 AM

“Drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you’ll find.”

Can you believe Herman Cain said that about his accuser?!?

Hmmm? What’s that? Oh, right, my bad. That was James Carville’s response to Paula Jones’ accusation of sexual harrassment against Bill Clinton.

So I don’t want to hear a peep out of liberals, when they smeared accusers of Slick Willy, a man who already had a reputation of being a horndog.

crushliberalism on November 1, 2011 at 8:41 AM

Lanny Davis, famed advisor to horny democRATS said it well; tell it now, tell it all, tell it your self. Cain still has done none of the above. Epic fail in the making.

borntoraisehogs on October 31, 2011 at 7:36 PM

What part of “these accusations are false and baseless” don’t you understand? And why?

gryphon202 on November 1, 2011 at 11:58 AM