Insiders vs Cainsiders

posted at 7:15 pm on October 29, 2011 by Karl

The GOP strategists surveyed in this week’s National Journal Political Insiders Poll almost unanimously identified Mitt Romney as the most likely candidate to win the nomination, followed by Rick Perry and Herman Cain. It’s not a surpising result, even after discounting for the Romney ties of a number of those surveyed (I haven’t investigated Perry or Cain ties, but would hypothesize there are fewer in the survey; Perry has recently hired staff with more national experience, but of those, only Jim Innocenzi leaps out in the polling list). It is a result at odds with national polling showing Romney neck-and-neck with Cain.

Although Nate Silver does not think Cain can win, he entertains the idea that he could be an outlier. That served as a springboard for Ace:

I think the pundit class, by and large, is committing the crime of Aggravated Solipsism. They don’t find Cain plausible or acceptable; ergo, he is not plausible or acceptable to a plurality of the Republican primary electorate and ergo he cannot, under any circumstances, win.

They seem to completely ignore the part about people getting to vote. And those people, when voting, expressing a different opinion on whether or not he is plausible or acceptable.

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Most of the party doesn’t want Romney as their standard bearer. We know this from the fact that Romney does all the technical aspects of politicking right — good debater, good ads, raises lots of money, strong organization, unified and relentless messaging from surrogates — and yet can’t rise any higher than 25% in polls.

And yet Cain, who does almost all of the technical things wrong, is at the same 25% and rising.

Cain could very well win the nomination, if people just want an angry old dude spouting dumbass crap as their nominee. Which is what I think the people actually want, and I’m sick of instructing them that maybe they should rest their Emotion Muscles a little bit and work out their Thinking Muscles some more.

They won’t do it.

RTWT for bonus profanity. Although I get Ace’s point, I think he is unduly influenced by the many debates he fought over the more controversial Senate candidates in 2010. On this point, I find myself siding with the conventional wisdom. Unelected Businessguy With a Plan generally ends up imploding from lack of experience campaigning and failing to recognize that the Plan will invariably attract many critics. Moreover, the presidency is not a Senate seat; voters — including GOP primary voters — set the bar higher. For all the criticism leveled at people in early caucus and primary states like Iowa and New Hampshire, their arrogance signals they take the process seriously. When push comes to shove, most do not see the presidency as an entry-level position. This is why it’s not surprising that Romney is currently tied-to-leading Cain even in more conservative arenas like Iowa and South Carolina, and is well ahead in more moderate venues like New Hampshire and Florida. It’s also why a focus group in Ohio (admittedly unscientific) likes Cain but cannot see him as president (Romney supporters note: Perry not well-liked by the group). It is one thing to tell a pollster your preference months away from an actual vote; it’s another when casting a vote you might think matters.

*Standard disclaimer: Yes, a Cain administration would be better than a second Obama administration.

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Another full court press on (insert favored candidate here).

SlaveDog on October 29, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Here’s your choice, America.

A: The windsock Bravo Sierra artist who flips toward whichever way the wind blows, and refuses to admit his Romneycare is a disaster by any measure.

B: The non-politician who commits serial flubs, but could actually hit Owebama about the head with the cudgels of Obamacare and the debt/deficit issues.

I choose B.

roscopico on October 29, 2011 at 7:26 PM

I’m sick of instructing them that maybe they should rest their Emotion Muscles a little bit and work out their Thinking Muscles some more.

They won’t do it.

What Ace is really trying to say is “I went all in for Rick Perry and now he’s falling in the polls and a debating disaster, so I must make fun and trash the dude who’s now leading in several polls in hopes that someone will pay attention to me and get back on the Perry bandwagon cause my butt hurts from pushing Perry so hard.”

Knucklehead on October 29, 2011 at 7:35 PM

I’m with Rush. I never trust conventional “wisdom” because it is rarely wise and never accurate.

alohapundit on October 29, 2011 at 7:36 PM

an ode to longing for a FEARLESS, CONSISTENT CONSERVATIVE in 2012.

still waiting…..is it you Herman? is it you Michelle? is it you __________?

You have to be there……we need you.

http://www.youtube.com/user/susanboylemusicuk?blend=1&ob=4#p/f/4/iNqNFHwaXhw

PappyD61 on October 29, 2011 at 7:37 PM

I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. I don’t care if Obama is re-elected if Romney is the alternative.

Repeat: I don’t care if Obama is re-elected.

The GOP Elite can go you-know-what themselves.

pdigaudio on October 29, 2011 at 7:39 PM

What Ace is really trying to say is “I went all in for Rick Perry and now he’s falling in the polls and a debating disaster, so I must make fun and trash the dude who’s now leading in several polls in hopes that someone will pay attention to me and get back on the Perry bandwagon cause my butt hurts from pushing Perry so hard.”

Knucklehead on October 29, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Ace has a flawless instinct for backing the wrong guy.

sharrukin on October 29, 2011 at 7:42 PM

I will not flinch when I cast my vote for Herman Cain. I can live with that vote and have a full night’s sleep afterward. The real question you must ask yourself, can you live with your vote for Mr. Flip-Flop Pretzel?

BigGator5 on October 29, 2011 at 7:43 PM

I think the pundit class, by and large, is committing the crime of Aggravated Solipsism. They don’t find Cain plausible or acceptable; ergo, he is not plausible or acceptable to a plurality of the Republican primary electorate and ergo he cannot, under any circumstances, win.
They seem to completely ignore the part about people getting to vote. And those people, when voting, expressing a different opinion on whether or not he is plausible or acceptable.
AceOfSpades

The above portion by Ace says it all.

. . . . . . . . a focus group in Ohio (admittedly unscientific) likes Cain but cannot see him as president . . . . . . . . . . .

Just how UN-scientific is it?
More detail about that group needed.

listens2glenn on October 29, 2011 at 7:45 PM

I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. I don’t care if Obama is re-elected if Romney is the alternative.

Repeat: I don’t care if Obama is re-elected.

The GOP Elite can go you-know-what themselves.

pdigaudio on October 29, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Hey! I always wondered what had become of that kid from elementary school who took their ball and went home crying each time they didn’t get there way.

How have you been?

BocaJuniors on October 29, 2011 at 7:46 PM

I’m with Rush. I never trust conventional “wisdom” because it is rarely wise and never accurate.

alohapundit on October 29, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Right on.

listens2glenn on October 29, 2011 at 7:46 PM

I am America!!!!

TheQuestion on October 29, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Although Nate Silver does not think Cain can win, he entertains the idea that he could be an outlier
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In a normal Presidential Election,where Goonions aren’t running
amuck,causing Kaos in the streets of Freedom and Apple Pie!

And where all *African Americans know there place(*NOT MY WORDS)
and where ProgressiveTards with the embedding of Marxist Socialist
Media,herr Political Stealth Journ(aO)listers will carry the DNC
“RaceCard” Demonization Strategy to silence any,and all Conservati
ves!!

Btw,for the first time,in an American Election,the Forces of Good
are Gathering,the African American Conservatives are rallying,you
see it in their speech`s at Tea Party events,and on their Blogs!

A couple of examples,ZONation,Raging Elephants!!

It would be,a terrible thing(Politicaly)to squander all these good
peoples efforts to rally around Cain,the African American Conserva
tives who btw,are ready to FIGHT,for Cain,the Presidentcy,and above
all,Lady Liberty,US of A!!
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http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/28/dem-strategist-conservatives-like-herman-cain-because-hes-a-black-man-who-knows-his-place/

Speaking of Cain,ZoNation weighs in!
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ZONATION: Herman Cain Is Black and He Doesn’t Smoke Crack
Added: 6 hours ago Occurred On: Oct-13-2011
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AlfonZo Rachel talks about Herman Cain’s refusal to play by the race baiters’ rules.
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f01_1318560049

canopfor on October 14, 2011 at 5:48 AM
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Black Conservative at Cain Event Calls Dems ‘Party of KKK’
Added: 3 hours ago Occurred On: Oct-27-2011
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1bc_1319688893

Raging Elephants
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http://www.ragingelephants.org/

“GOP is the New Black” billboard is up!
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Raging Elephants is proud to announce our newest billboards in Houston, TX and Dayton, OH.

We are on the move. STAMPEDE!

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canopfor on October 27, 2011 at 4:24 AM

canopfor on October 29, 2011 at 7:54 PM

I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. I don’t care if Obama is re-elected if Romney is the alternative.

pdigaudio on October 29, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Do you care who Obama nominates to the Supreme Court? I guess not.

If he can get two more nominees approved, it won’t matter who the next president is.

SlaveDog on October 29, 2011 at 7:59 PM

The Great African American Political Awakening!
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I have a thought,and maybe I’m dreaming,but what if,the
American voters saw an African American,in a different light,
a Conservative,what if,Cain was able to politically spark a
Great African American Liberal Awakening!!

Now,another different take,Obama has been rabble-rousing,sh*t-distrubing,crock-stirring,stoking the flames of Racism,and for
his three years of Failure,its going to be the RACE CARD PLAYED
through out the election!

So,who better to go toe to toe against Obama,and fight Lefty
Rhetric with Righty Rhetric!!

And,it would be historic,Lefty African American Vrs,Righty
African America!!

And,there is a different dynamics,this round,Obama wants to
Destroy America,and Herman Cain,wants to straighten out Hopeys
mess,and get Lady Liberty back on her feet!!

Just a thought!!!!

canopfor on October 14, 2011 at 11:16 PM

canopfor on October 29, 2011 at 8:03 PM

I took the time to read Herman Cain’s new book, and while he is a rookie in politics, he has the right instincts to make the hard decisions–I don’t think experience in office is that big a deal, especially if you want change

phillypolitics on October 29, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Don’t know about anyone else but speaking for myself, I would really appreciate it if these a-holes would quit telling me who the nominee is going to be. I’m pretty sure that’s up to the American voters.

kg598301 on October 29, 2011 at 8:06 PM

sorry to bruise any progressive sensitivities, but Cain enjoys some popularity for the same reason that Obama did the last time around…

fabrexe on October 29, 2011 at 8:07 PM

… and how did that turn out?

fabrexe on October 29, 2011 at 8:08 PM

O/T
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Posted on October 29, 2011 by Israel Defense Forces
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A short while ago, an IAF aircraft targeted a terrorist squad in the northern Gaza strip that was preparing to launch rockets at Israel. In addition, a short while ago, an IAF aircraft targeted two armed rocket launching tripods in the southern Gaza Strip. Direct hits were identified.

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canopfor on October 29, 2011 at 8:08 PM

DMR Iowa: Cain 23, Romney 22, Paul 12

andy85719 on October 29, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Don’t know about anyone else but speaking for myself, I would really appreciate it if these a-holes would quit telling me who the nominee is going to be. I’m pretty sure that’s up to the American voters.

kg598301 on October 29, 2011 at 8:06 PM

And the voters will have their way. Like it, or not.

SlaveDog on October 29, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Cain could very well win the nomination, if people just want an angry old dude spouting dumbass crap as their nominee. Which is what I think the people actually want, and I’m sick of instructing them that maybe they should rest their Emotion Muscles a little bit and work out their Thinking Muscles some more.

Ace has a point. I don’t see Cain keeping it together through an entire General Election campaign. Remember this is the guy who has committed serial gaffes and just had a campaign huddle to decide what his basic stance is on abortion.

Look, the field sucks. My guess is that had T-Paw stayed in the race, now would have been his time to shine — he’s the Not-Romney who is also a Not-Perry and would have had a shot at keeping it together for an entire campaign.

Revenant on October 29, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Way too much equivocation in this article!!!

Cain is NOT and “entry level” candidate with no experience. Among ALL of the candidates floated by ANY party so far, Cain has more executive experience, more financial experience, more turnaround experience, than any alternative!!! In addition, Cain also has IT and military credentials.

By contrast, Obama had never run anything, and the things he participated in were all failures: a perfect prediction of his presidency. And Romney’s experience is very narrow by comparison, and carries a real albatross or two created by his own attempt at governance.

landlines on October 29, 2011 at 8:19 PM

If the people who vote actually matter any more, it comes down to a question of who we can trust. As near as I can tell, Mitt Romney is another John McCain, who was another Bob Dole, who was another Gerald Ford, etc, etc, etc.
All of these gentlemen professionals came to market with a finely honed image, a well crafted portfolio of issue positions, a superbly talented staff, a well thought out strategy,….and NOT ONE solid conviction to be seen anywhere. None!
Mitt Romney doesn’t have a single core value that he wouldn’t sell to the highest bidder in a second. And THAT’s what separates him from Herman Cain.

Lew on October 29, 2011 at 8:26 PM

I’m sick of instructing them that maybe they should rest their Emotion Muscles a little bit and work out their Thinking Muscles some more.

We’re sick of it too, you condescending windbag.

rrpjr on October 29, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Way too much equivocation in this article!!!

Cain is NOT and “entry level” candidate with no experience.

landlines on October 29, 2011 at 8:19 PM

landlines:Correct you are!
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What You May Not Know About Herman Can
Oct 23 201
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He is not a career politician and in fact has never held political office. He is known as a pizza guy, but there’s a lot more to him. He’s also a computer guy, a banker guy, and a rocket scientist guy.

Here’s his bio:

Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.
Master’s degree in Computer Science.
Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket scientist).
Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola.
VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the top of the ladder in the computer world, being in charge of information systems for a major corporation).

All achieved before reaching the age of 35. Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers!
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Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest performers in the country. Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three years he had turned them into the company’s best performers.
Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months.
In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the top of the ladder of another industry.
He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time. This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the non-politician side.

Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again!
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Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy changes would affect American businesses.
Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. He worked his way up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve bank. This is only one step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top banking position in the country). This position allowed him to see how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system.

After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a fourth time!
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Writer and public speaker. He then started to write and speak on leadership. His books include Speak as a Leader, CEO of Self, Leadership is Common Sense, and They Think You’re Stupid.
Radio Host. Around 2007—after a remarkable 40 year career—he started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country).
He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid). When you add up his accomplishments in his life—including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information systems, business management, and banking—Herman Cain may have the most impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half century.
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canopfor on October 29, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Election 2012!
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Community Crock-Strirr’n Sh*t-Shaking Agitator Social Justice
Warrior in Chief Crusader Hate’n on America NeverEndUs….

Vrs.

Mathematician Ballistic Missile Former Navy Guy,
and a whole lotta more in experience,American Lov’n….

And,Cain,is,as everyone has been ask’n for,er,look’n for….

……..”New Political Blood”!!

canopfor on October 29, 2011 at 8:37 PM

… and how did that turn out?

fabrexe on October 29, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Yeah, those black guys are all alike.

katy the mean old lady on October 29, 2011 at 8:38 PM

You are either supporting Cain, or you are part and parcel to what is destroying the Republican party. I think I will stick with Bachmann thank you. I have yet to hear anything from Cain that is to the right of her.

astonerii on October 29, 2011 at 8:39 PM

fabrexe on October 29, 2011 at 8:07 PM

You mean something along these lines I guess?

“I mean, you got the first second mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

astonerii on October 29, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Didn’t I see this movie before, starring Sarah Palin? As I recall, the anti-corner was successful in convincing her that she really didn’t have what it takes.

I guess if a meme works, you should keep running with it. Even if it does bad things to America.

platypus on October 29, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Cain is able! Jump on the Cain Train while it’s still in the station. All aboard! Cain 2012!

milemarker2020 on October 29, 2011 at 9:16 PM

BocaJuniors on October 29, 2011 at 7:46 PM

How did The Maverick work out last time we went with your wisdom?

antisocial on October 29, 2011 at 9:20 PM

BocaJuniors on October 29, 2011 at 7:46 PM

How did The Maverick work out last time we went with your wisdom?

antisocial on October 29, 2011 at 9:20 PM

I didn’t support McCain in 2008 (or 2000).

BocaJuniors on October 29, 2011 at 9:30 PM

I’m sick of instructing them that maybe they should rest their Emotion Muscles a little bit and work out their Thinking Muscles some more

The reason that I don’t go to AoSHQ

darwin-t on October 29, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Standard disclaimer: Yes, a Cain administration would be exceedingly better than a Romney (Romneycare, flip-flopping, big govt) administration.

Herman Cain…Herman Cain…Herman Cain!!!

balkanmom on October 29, 2011 at 10:02 PM

The reason that I don’t go to AoSHQ

darwin-t on October 29, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Likewise. It takes him 1000 words to say what could be said in a paragraph or two and then there’s all his fawning frat boys.

rrpjr on October 29, 2011 at 10:13 PM

sorry to bruise any progressive sensitivities, but Cain enjoys some popularity for the same reason that Obama did the last time around…

fabrexe on October 29, 2011 at 8:07 PM

If you think there’s any similarity between Cain and Obama WRT intelligence, accomplishments, ability and common sense, then nothing anyone says can help you.

kim roy on October 29, 2011 at 10:46 PM

If you think there’s any similarity between Cain and Obama WRT intelligence, accomplishments, ability and common sense, then nothing anyone says can help you.

kim roy on October 29, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Good comment. And you could add: values, decency, understanding of economics, honesty, character, background, ideology etc etc etc.

Basilsbest on October 29, 2011 at 11:07 PM

… and how did that turn out?

fabrexe on October 29, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Let’s see, obama offered hope and change…

and we all know how that turned out.

tinkerthinker on October 29, 2011 at 11:13 PM

poll

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/29/cain-edges-romney-in-des-moines-register-poll/

Cain is the one..

Romney is Mcain

.. is there anyone else running .. or anyone else getting financial support?

it all comes down to $$$, bumper stickers, and slick television,

GO CAIN !..

and keep the smokin dude out of the pic.

amend2 on October 29, 2011 at 11:13 PM

Saw this somewhere else, but liked it:

If Cain wins the nomination, the general election will be Cain vs. Unable.

Rational Thought on October 29, 2011 at 11:31 PM

The Cain Train is picking up steam. Clear the track and watch the fast express roll. The only wreck will be that of the Romney train, with Karl Rove found scalded to death by the steam.

jimw on October 29, 2011 at 11:31 PM

I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. I don’t care if Obama is re-elected if Romney is the alternative.

Repeat: I don’t care if Obama is re-elected.

The GOP Elite can go you-know-what themselves.

pdigaudio on October 29, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Hey! I always wondered what had become of that kid from elementary school who took their ball and went home crying each time they didn’t get there way.

How have you been?

BocaJuniors on October 29, 2011 at 7:46 PM

John Anderson, who refused to support Reagan and ran as an independent? Lisa Murkowski, who lost the Republican primary and decided to run as an independent? Dede Scozzafava, who won the Republican primary, then realized she couldn’t win the race, and endorsed the Democrat rather than the Conservative?

Since we’re talking about people who only play by the rules when they get the results they want…..

You really screwed up with that question.

There Goes The Neighborhood on October 30, 2011 at 1:29 AM

sorry to bruise any progressive sensitivities, but Cain enjoys some popularity for the same reason that Obama did the last time around…

fabrexe on October 29, 2011 at 8:07 PM

The media is in love with him?

Better rethink that.

There Goes The Neighborhood on October 30, 2011 at 1:31 AM

Ace and Allah sound VERY similar to me. Maybe…???

leftnomore on October 30, 2011 at 3:28 AM

John Anderson, who refused to support Reagan and ran as an independent? Lisa Murkowski, who lost the Republican primary and decided to run as an independent? Dede Scozzafava, who won the Republican primary, then realized she couldn’t win the race, and endorsed the Democrat rather than the Conservative?

Since we’re talking about people who only play by the rules when they get the results they want…..

You really screwed up with that question.

There Goes The Neighborhood on October 30, 2011 at 1:29 AM

Let me see if I follow the logic of what you’re saying…

1. John Anderson was a douche.

2. Lisa Murkowski was a douche.

3. Dede Scozzafava was a douche.

4. See? It’s fine that I plan on being a douche!

BocaJuniors on October 30, 2011 at 4:31 AM

Let me see if I follow the logic of what you’re saying…

1. John Anderson was a douche.

2. Lisa Murkowski was a douche.

3. Dede Scozzafava was a douche.

4. See? It’s fine that I plan on being a douche!

BocaJuniors on October 30, 2011 at 4:31 AM

More like…

4. See? It’s fine that I plan on being a douche!

4. Romney is a douche!

5. The GOP are professional douches and don’t plan on being anything but douches.

sharrukin on October 30, 2011 at 4:47 AM

“I’m sick of instructing them that maybe they should rest their Emotion Muscles a little bit and work out their Thinking Muscles some more. They won’t do it. ACE”

1. ACE, you are some egotistical ACE, if you think you are instructing anyone who comments on this blog.

2. I read this blog for the input, comments, and humor from the bloggers, not your dumb ACE.

3. However, I do appreciate you spending the time and effort to look things up and relay that to this blog. Get back to work you ACE.

jarhead0311 on October 30, 2011 at 8:35 AM

A Romney administration will be more damaging to the US than a second BHO term.

Romney has never shown the fire that is going to be needed to right this ship.
Can you see Romney telling Pelosi and Co. GSaD?
Can you see Romney retracting dozens of EO’s, and then telling people he did so because they were bad policy and bad government?
Can you see Romney vetoing anything?

All that electing Romney will do is to stop the establishment Republicans from attacking the actions of the government, but the government will continue on with its tyrannical, totalitarian ways.

Recall that Romney LOST to McCain. When McCain is to the right of you….

Nathan_OH on October 30, 2011 at 8:39 AM

What You May Not Know About Herman Can
Oct 23 201
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He is not a career politician and in fact has never held political office. He is known as a pizza guy, but there’s a lot more to him. He’s also a computer guy, a banker guy, and a rocket scientist guy.

Here’s his bio:
pondence/13902-what-you-may-not-know-about-herman-cain.html

canopfor on October 29, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Whoah. Need a vacation after reading it. That’s what we call ‘Tiger Blood’ in these here parts.

RepubChica on October 30, 2011 at 9:48 AM

And Tiger Blood’s leading the new Des Moines Register poll.

RepubChica on October 30, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Now if only Cain could learn to lie like a politician…

lovingmyUSA on October 30, 2011 at 10:08 AM

I heard from this girl I know that Ace is not the place for hardware. bwaaaahhh. *fleeing the premises*

RepubChica on October 30, 2011 at 10:20 AM

Sick and tired of the loser, elitist, old boy GOP…… We need to clean that house as well.

ultracon on October 30, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Romney delenda est!

patch on October 30, 2011 at 2:30 PM

More like…

4. See? It’s fine that I plan on being a douche!

4. Romney is a douche!

5. The GOP are professional douches and don’t plan on being anything but douches.

sharrukin on October 30, 2011 at 4:47 AM

Is Romney planning on going 3rd party if Cain wins? I think not. It’s crybabies in the tea party who are threatening that (or sitting at home like spoiled children).

BocaJuniors on October 30, 2011 at 6:34 PM

You are either supporting Cain, or you are part and parcel to what is destroying the Republican party. I think I will stick with Bachmann thank you. I have yet to hear anything from Cain that is to the right of her.

astonerii on October 29, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Of course you have the right to vote for whoever you like….

People like you should get no vote.

astonerii on October 4, 2011 at 11:58 AM

….unless you get on the wrong side of yourself that is.

Apologize.

runawayyyy on October 31, 2011 at 2:32 PM