Flier at Occupy Phoenix asks, “When should you shoot a cop?”

posted at 12:05 pm on October 28, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Hot Air has confirmed with the Arizona Department of Public Safety that fliers have been found at Occupy Phoenix instructing people on when to shoot police officers.  First reported by the Jon Justice show on  104.1 FM in Tucson, the flier resulted in a counterterrorism alert issued to all law enforcement agencies in the state:

Copies of an “informational” letter were left on a table for protestors pick up [sic] and read during the “Occupy Phoenix” event at Cesar Chavez Park.  The presence of the letter was reported to the ACTIC by a Maricopa County Sheriff’s Deputy who had responded to an unrelated call and was alerted to it by another deputy working the event.

The letter is blatantly anti-government and anti-law enforcement in nature.  It not only condones but even encourages citizens to kill any “government agent” (i.e. law enforcement officers), who in their perception violates their rights.  Examples are given in the document, of “illegal” search and seizure, sobriety and border checkpoints, airport security, etc… In essence this document states that citizens have the right and moral obligation to resist any action by law enforcement that is viewed as a violation of the citizen’s rights, and often-times resistance involves killing officers.

“Occupy” events have drawn protestors for various causes including “Chalk the Police” and “Police Brutality Day”.  With emotions running high in regards to law enforcement and government personnel, there is obvious concern this document could incite actions with protestors to take actions they might not have taken otherwise.

It’s a lengthy flier, but these two paragraphs are worth noting, as they capture the general flavor of the missive:

Pick any example of abuse of power, whether it is the fascist “war on drugs,” the police thuggery that has become so common, the random stops and searches now routinely carried out in the name of “security” (e.g., at airports, “border checkpoints” that aren’t even at the border, “sobriety checkpoints,” and so on), or anything else.  Now ask yourself the uncomfortable question: If it is wrong for cops to do these things, doesn’t that imply that the people have a right to RESIST such actions?  Of course, state mercenaries don’t take kindly to being resisted, even non-violently.  If you question their right to detain you, interrogate you, search you, invade your home, and so on, you are very likely to be tasered, physically assaulted, kidnapped, put in a cage, or shot.  If a cop decides to treat you like livestock, whether he does it “legally” or not, you will usually have only two options: submit, or kill the cop.  You can’t resist a cop “just a little” and get away with it.  He will always call in more of his fellow gang members, until you are subdued or dead.

Basic logic dictates that you either have an obligation to LET “law enforcers” have their way with you, or you have the right to STOP them from doing so, which will almost always require killing them. (Politely asking fascists not to be fascists has a very poor track record.)

The flier goes on at length for two pages with much of the same vitriol.  Let’s try approaching the actual arguments presented in this screed, such as they are.  I’ll grant that police occasionally abuse their power, and that some functions like airport security have become overbroad and unnecessarily intrusive (in service to political correctness, actually).  In some cases, those abuses get taken to disturbing levels, as I have learned through personal experience and through the experiences of those close to me.  However, the vast majority of my contacts with law enforcement have been professional and even friendly.

When a law-enforcement officer crosses the line, people in a free society have more options than surrender or murder, however.  We can work to change the laws so that the abuses get curtailed, when the abuses come from the law itself (airport security and sobriety checkpoints among them).  We can pursue legal action when the abuses come from the police officers individually.  Put simply, contra this person’s hysteric and historically ignorant perspective, we don’t live in a fascist state or anything close to it.  This is a person straining mightily to give intellectual and philosophical cover for murderous intentions, which run seriously and deep.

I’m curious to see how the media in Arizona and the rest of the nation approach this development.  They went into convulsions retroactive to the Gabrielle Giffords shooting that killed six other people because Sarah Palin used crosshairs on a map once (as had Democrats on a number of occasions), which the media used to paint the Tea Party and conservatives as somehow responsible for the massacre conducted by a madman with no discernibly rational political posture.  Will they hold the Occupy movement to the same ridiculous standard?  I’m betting …. no.

Update: Verum Serum has more on the self-described anarchist whose writings were used for the flier, and his appearance at a Tea Party event in 2009.  It’s not clear whether Rose distributed the fliers or someone just lifted it for the Occupy Phoenix event.

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peaceniks!

Nelsen on October 28, 2011 at 12:07 PM

Gah, we’ve jumped back in time 40 years.

Bob's Kid on October 28, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Yeap…

… Just like the TEA Party.

/

Seven Percent Solution on October 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Stated in that, paraphrasing a little, mentions Pol Pot et al in comparison to the police. Police don’t enact laws, dictator do.

Truly sickening a flyer like this is being distributed. I would hope some members of OWS would disavow it. Some of these protesters are borderline insane anyway, and something like this might just push ‘em over the edge. These same peeps claim that the infamous Sarah Palin website with crosshairs supposedly incited a shooting.

JetBoy on October 28, 2011 at 12:11 PM

More cognitive dissonance from the gun-control crowd.

CurtZHP on October 28, 2011 at 12:13 PM

I’d like to make a cou0ple of points here.

1: I am a Cop.

2: If a bunch of hippies shoot even one of my brothers, I’ll stop being a Cop and become the nightmare they will wish would go away but won’t.

MikeA on October 28, 2011 at 12:15 PM

Documents being distributed at two different rallies:

“When should you shoot a cop?”—OWS

U.S. Constitution—Tea Party

Guess which one the Democrats whole heartedly support?

dirtseller on October 28, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Is the Tea Party behind this Occupy bunch? That must be it!

cartooner on October 28, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Not to worry.

The intellectual foundation for OWS was created by Elizabeth Warren.

dissent555 on October 28, 2011 at 12:17 PM

so proud of my state….not

absolutely shameful, these little punks

cmsinaz on October 28, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Wasn’t this the Obamaville that had the 15 guys armed with AKs?

livefreerdie on October 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM

I bet sheriff Arpaio will not think this flyer is funny at all! He will not put up with this type of stuff, period. All police should be on alert for anyone to do them harm.
L

letget on October 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Elizabeth Warren must be proud.

a capella on October 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Good God….

For those who remember the late 60′s protests and civil unrest…is this what it felt like then? That the very fabric of civil society was on the verge of breaking apart and unravelling at the seams?

I’m tired of saying “What if the Tea Party did xyz …”, so I won’t even mention that.

I am looking forward to these “movements” spiraling out of control (preferably within their own organizations and amongst themselves mainly) and causing much (controllable) mayhem so that the Dems who Phu**ed this chicken, including the POTUS, will get their just desserts come ’12 (or whenever they are up for reelection).

I can’t believe there aren’t a gaggle of RNC media-types right now crafting TONS and TONS of damning commercials right now for deployment over the next 12 months. It’s probably the easiest message they’ve ever had to concoct, against ANY incumbent who opened his/her mouth in favor/support of these anarchists.

jwehman on October 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Just great! now they can all Occupy Prison or Occupy Gas Chamber. Wonder how long these folks can hold their breath?

Oh, wait….Occupy Injections—guaranteed to be the last free government entitlement.

Rovin on October 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM

and the lsm still calls these folks peaceful….my foot

cmsinaz on October 28, 2011 at 12:20 PM

*waits – without holding breath – for a JOURNALIST to ask any of the leftie nitwits of consequence out there that have equated ‘occupy’ with the Tea Party about this and the multitude other ways in which they are not remotely the same; you know, rather than simply nodding like a brain-addled sycophant when someone spouts that BS*

Midas on October 28, 2011 at 12:21 PM

I’d like to make a cou0ple of points here.

1: I am a Cop.

2: If a bunch of hippies shoot even one of my brothers, I’ll stop being a Cop and become the nightmare they will wish would go away but won’t.

MikeA on October 28, 2011 at 12:15 PM

And, this non-cop but fully-licensed and -permitted automatic and semi-automatic assault weapon owner will have your back! Thanks for your and your brothers’ service.

TXUS on October 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM

C’mon you guys, aside from the recently released convicts, these are just a bunch of hipster college students and aging hippies. They aren’t about to start an armed revolution.

Lawdawg86 on October 28, 2011 at 12:23 PM

“God bless them.” – Nancy Pelosi

RadClown on October 28, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Good God….

For those who remember the late 60′s protests and civil unrest…is this what it felt like then? That the very fabric of civil society was on the verge of breaking apart and unravelling at the seams?

jwehman on October 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM

No, not even close. I was in college at the time and the nutters were a pretty well defined group. The SDS and the Weathermen were a big part of it. Throw in a few radical racial groups, some communists, and that was about it, from my perspective. Today, it’s international, particularly with Soros money, and our national leadership is much weaker. Much more dangerous and ominous.

a capella on October 28, 2011 at 12:26 PM

This is the next step in the Occupy organizers’ plan
1) Create or take advantage of a crisis.
2) Create a buzz about doing something.
3) Create an event — the occupy tent cities
4) Indoctrinate the attendees (human microphones)
5) Start out peaceful
6) Have a few rowdies make some disturbance
7) Let the police respond
8) Claim the police response is disproportionate
9) Begin to question whether peaceful means are the only ones available
10) next is more violence.

rbj on October 28, 2011 at 12:28 PM

I’d like to make a cou0ple of points here.

1: I am a Cop.

2: If a bunch of hippies shoot even one of my brothers, I’ll stop being a Cop and become the nightmare they will wish would go away but won’t.

MikeA on October 28, 2011 at 12:15 PM

And, this non-cop but fully-licensed and -permitted automatic and semi-automatic assault weapon owner will have your back! Thanks for your and your brothers’ service.

TXUS on October 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM

Our name is Legion…

Seven Percent Solution on October 28, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Teat Party Terrorists – endorsed by Obama and other leading Democrats.

forest on October 28, 2011 at 12:28 PM

When should you shoot a hippie?

yubley on October 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM

2: If a bunch of hippies shoot even one of my brothers, I’ll stop being a Cop and become the nightmare they will wish would go away but won’t.

MikeA on October 28, 2011 at 12:15 PM

As one of my police friends says to make me laugh, “We can do this the easy way or the hard way.”

txag92 on October 28, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Will they hold the Occupy movement to the same ridiculous standard? I’m betting …. no.

Ah, but the media and Democratic Leadership have already equated the Occupy movement with the Tea Party movement. And lamebrains love hopscotch from one false assumption to the next. Of course, the radical terrorists supposedly protecting “liberty” are from the “radical right-wing conservative Tea Party movement.” And we’re back where the Tea Party movement was first described by the Monopoly media: Go back to Jail and lose your turns.

We can work to change the laws so that the abuses get curtailed, when the abuses come from the law itself (airport security and sobriety checkpoints among them).

Ed, have you fallen short on those threads to date? Which GOP Candidate(s) make(s) that item a plank agenda item of their campaign platform?

maverick muse on October 28, 2011 at 12:31 PM

I’m curious to see how the media in Arizona and the rest of the nation approach this development.

I live in Phoenix and this is the first I’m reading about any of this. Unbelievable. But not surprising.

jennifernaz on October 28, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Brought to you by Elizabeth Warren.

tetriskid on October 28, 2011 at 12:32 PM

When should you shoot a hippie?

yubley on October 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM

When he ceases being a mere hippie and becomes a combatant. But, a degree of self-control is necessary even in this instance: Hold your weapon with two hands before firing.

TXUS on October 28, 2011 at 12:34 PM

When should you shoot a hippie?

yubley on October 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM

Never. Sh-t splatters.

CurtZHP on October 28, 2011 at 12:35 PM

I live in Phoenix and this is the first I’m reading about any of this. Unbelievable. But not surprising.

jennifernaz on October 28, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Yup, local media here in AZ are largely ignoring this.

itsnotaboutme on October 28, 2011 at 12:35 PM

I’m betting …. no.

I love it when you go out on a limb and take a chance…./s

right2bright on October 28, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Social media initially is a boon for OWS to get their ground game organized and going, but social media, ultimately is going to tank OWS. Stories like this go viral and too many honest Americans are WTF is this crap? What was once possible in the 60′s, is not possible today. Possibly in 20 years if the rate of dumbing down of America stays on pace. But not 2011.

Schweggie on October 28, 2011 at 12:38 PM

I’m curious to see how the media in Arizona and the rest of the nation approach this development.

*crickets*

petefrt on October 28, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Police are not incontestable demigods despite popular belief. And if they do violate your god-given constitutional rights in an abhorrent manner you do have the right to defend yourself. Hopefully, most police in this country do not forget their role as officers of the peace and don’t take the easy path.

Pitchforker on October 28, 2011 at 12:41 PM

They copied that from the Tea Party library.

Hening on October 28, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Yup, local media here in AZ are largely ignoring this.

itsnotaboutme on October 28, 2011 at 12:35 PM

agree

cmsinaz on October 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM

I live in Phoenix and this is the first I’m reading about any of this. Unbelievable. But not surprising.

jennifernaz

Same here. NOT A PEEP!
As for the guys with semi-auto rifles, that appears to have been a bunch of neo-nazi types with the semi-auto rifles. Let’s not forget that nazis were a type of socialist so it’s no surprise they support OWS.

Hard Right on October 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Police are not incontestable demigods despite popular liberals’ belief. And if they do violate your god-given constitutional rights in an abhorrent manner you do have the right to defend yourself. Hopefully, most police in this country do not forget their role as officers of the peace and don’t take the easy path.

Pitchforker on October 28, 2011 at 12:41 PM

FIFY.

TXUS on October 28, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Regarding “right to carry” or “right to own” firearms, this Flier at Occupy PHX as likely came from DHS Napolitano as from JT Ready, her idiotic tool. Whoever is responsible for it is exploiting provocateurs. Consider well who gains the most from an incident, and who loses Liberty.

maverick muse on October 28, 2011 at 12:45 PM

I live in Phoenix and this is the first I’m reading about any of this. Unbelievable. But not surprising.

jennifernaz

Hopefully Drudge or some other huge source will pick it up.

tetriskid on October 28, 2011 at 12:45 PM

I live in Phoenix and this is the first I’m reading about any of this. Unbelievable. But not surprising.

jennifernaz

Is it really that bad around Phoenix?

JetBoy on October 28, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Obviously a false flag operation by TeaPartyKochBrothersCapitalist1%er fascists!!!Eleventy!!!

eeyore on October 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM

TAKE THE SONS OF B*TCHES OUT.
GET IN THEIR FACES.
PUNCH BACK TWICE AS HARD.
THEY BRING A KNIFE, WE BRING A GUN.

Good Lt on October 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Is it really that bad around Phoenix?

JetBoy

The AZ Republic is a leftist rag newspaper so they won’t report it. Despite this being a red state, the media is still of the left and we see how honest they are as reporters.

Hard Right on October 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Obviously a false flag operation by TeaPartyKochBrothersCapitalist1%er fascists!!!Eleventy!!!

eeyore

It actually appears to be from neo-nazis, another type of socialists who support OWS.

Hard Right on October 28, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Occupy joins forces with a larger group of TEATERS….the result?

TEATER-PY!!!!!

PappyD61 on October 28, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Good Lt. /quoting Obama?!/

As the most popular Democratic candidate for potus announced recently, “We came. We saw. We killed.” whether Mt. Carmel, TX or most recently Hillary in Libya.

maverick muse on October 28, 2011 at 12:51 PM

DAMNED TEABAGGURZZZ TERRORISTS!@!11!!1

Good Lt on October 28, 2011 at 12:52 PM

Ditto, Jennifer. Nothing on azcentral.com, nothing on azfamily.com, nothing on KFYI, nothing on Fox 10. If it weren’t for this post, we’d never know about it.

azkag on October 28, 2011 at 12:53 PM

I’d like to make a cou0ple of points here.

1: I am a Cop.

2: If a bunch of hippies shoot even one of my brothers, I’ll stop being a Cop and become the nightmare they will wish would go away but won’t.

MikeA on October 28, 2011 at 12:15 PM

..and you perpetuate one of the worse stereotypes of the “thin blue line” of police looking out more for other cops than for the communities that pay you.

Rule of Law, it works both ways, and considering you are on the frontlines. Do you really want it to breakdown?

Nathan_OH on October 28, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Well, Obama supports it. What say you now, liberals? Do you condone this??? I sure as hell don’t.

capejasmine on October 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM

Wow, that’s some full on cop hatin going on there so does Occupy Phoenix have ex cons participating in their protest? It’s pseudo anarchistic literature, but it does target the very government body that stands between them, and law abiding citizenry. Why not investigate and find the source?

I bet if the language of the flier was scanned and searched for online, they would find the source online at least the inspiration. If there is a flier there is probably an online copy of the flier.

Dr Evil on October 28, 2011 at 12:59 PM

If it weren’t for this post, we’d never know about it.

azkag on October 28, 2011 at 12:53 PM

Ed, who alerted you of the flier?

maverick muse on October 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM

This is the next step in the Occupy organizers’ plan
1) Create or take advantage of a crisis.
2) Create a buzz about doing something.
3) Create an event — the occupy tent cities
4) Indoctrinate the attendees (human microphones)
5) Start out peaceful
6) Have a few rowdies make some disturbance
7) Let the police respond
8) Claim the police response is disproportionate
9) Begin to question whether peaceful means are the only ones available
10) next is more violence.

rbj on October 28, 2011 at 12:28 PM

+1000

Talon on October 28, 2011 at 1:01 PM

The police acted stupidly. –Obama

Hm.

maverick muse on October 28, 2011 at 1:01 PM

I’d first suspect one of the neo-Nazi militia groups like J.T.Ready and friends. This is just fuel on the fire. They seem like the types that would start a fire then come to the rescue just so they could portray themselves as heros.

SPCOlympics on October 28, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Occupy Oakland had an “In the Spirit of Lovelle Mixon” sign prominently posted. For those of you who don’t know, Lovelle Mixon murdered four Oakland police officers on March 21, 2009.

RIP Sgt. Mark Dunakin, Sgt. Erv Romans, Sgt. Daniel Sakai, Off. John Hege

Trafalgar on October 28, 2011 at 1:06 PM

The media is too busy using a team of experts to invent decipher some new racist code words/phrases and dog-whistle statements that some news starved beat reporter pretended she overheard at a tea party rally.

reaganaut on October 28, 2011 at 1:07 PM

..and you perpetuate one of the worse stereotypes of the “thin blue line” of police looking out more for other cops than for the communities that pay you.

Rule of Law, it works both ways, and considering you are on the frontlines. Do you really want it to breakdown?

Nathan_OH on October 28, 2011 at 12:57 PM

No, of course I don’t want it to break down. But I’m not the one pressing it to that point either. And I can tell you this; the thin blue line is not a stereotype, it is a fact. Not the way the movies portray it, but it is real and it has to be so. I have a great respect for the rule of law and for the proper and judicious application of police forces to things like these protests. But to LEOs of all stripes, there is one hard and fast rule that overrules all else. At the end of the day the good guys go home to their families, no matter what.

MikeA on October 28, 2011 at 1:09 PM

..and you perpetuate one of the worse stereotypes of the “thin blue line” of police looking out more for other cops than for the communities that pay you.

Rule of Law, it works both ways, and considering you are on the frontlines. Do you really want it to breakdown?

Nathan_OH on October 28, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Go back and Occupy your tent or defecate somewhere else than here.

TXUS on October 28, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Looks like Ayers and Van Jones have been busy.

pat on October 28, 2011 at 1:12 PM

In a comment on another article about Occupy Wallstreet. I suggested that the police be strategic in how they fight “the enemy”. I know there are people who would think I’m being hyperbolic in saying the police should consider Occupy Wallstreet the enemy, but this is a pretty good evidence that I’m right. Now, I know that probably a majority of the protestors are in it for the ambiance and camaraderie. I also know that the majority of the Ron Paul groupies aren’t anti-police at this level. Yet, the people with the dominant voices at the Occupy events wouldn’t disagree with this sentiment expressed at Occupy Phoenix.

(The Ron Paul people will never dominate something like Occupy Phoenix for at least the next fifty years.)

thuja on October 28, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Police are not incontestable demigods despite popular belief. And if they do violate your god-given constitutional rights in an abhorrent manner you do have the right to defend yourself. Hopefully, most police in this country do not forget their role as officers of the peace and don’t take the easy path.

Pitchforker on October 28, 2011 at 12:41 PM

LOL, hey I remember you-you claimed last year that Entitlement Spending is “mandatory”.

Mandatory spending, such as SS and Medicare is fixed in that our reps have very little to no budget maneuverability in dealing with it.

Pitchforker on June 11, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 28, 2011 at 1:17 PM

SPCOlympics on October 28, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Yes, he’s just dumb enough to allow himself to be provoked by an infiltrated intelligence undercover agent in a vicious cycle of provoking his Klan himself.

Often, whoever IS provoking radicals end up being from the DHS umbrella, whether cia-muslim-brotherhood (whether Arab-Spring or US Embassy in Sarajevo) or fbi-atf (Branch Davidians, now fast&furious).

JT set himself up. He’s a pompous white supremacist advocating public outrage at law enforcement.

maverick muse on October 28, 2011 at 1:18 PM

In my opinion, neo-nazis are unlikely. In Phoenix, the most animosity toward the police, especially the Sherrif (the original Sherrif Joe), comes from the illegal immigration supporters and the anti 1070 crowd. Also, I wouldn’t discount the possibility of Mexican drug cartels and smugglers.

azkag on October 28, 2011 at 1:18 PM

MikeA on October 28, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Thanks for your service, by the way. Most of us understand and appreciate you guys.

Midas on October 28, 2011 at 1:19 PM

Let’s try approaching the actual arguments presented in this screed, such as they are.

Why? These sociopathic anarchist mobsters are not motivated or moved by reason. There is no proper response to this except an FBI investigation. But hey, maybe a nice fat reward help the investigation. Offers of a free Mac or I-Pad would probably do the trick.

Buy Danish on October 28, 2011 at 1:19 PM

Still waiting for Nancy Pelosi to start blinking and gulping as she remembers the fear the protests in the 70′s sent straight through her.

hoosiermama on October 28, 2011 at 1:19 PM

C’mon you guys, aside from the recently released convicts, these are just a bunch of hipster college students and aging hippies. They aren’t about to start an armed revolution.

Lawdawg86 on October 28, 2011 at 12:23 PM

I yield to no one in my disdain for the OWS crowd but right you are dawg. These guys are like a bunch of 7 year old boys shouting poo poo at the girls during recess. Wimps and wanna-bes.

Mike A’s comment about forgetting he is a cop and going rogue is probably in the same league – juvenile posturing – but if not, shame on you, Mike. You have a higher responsibility. If you really believe what you wrote and are prepared to act on it, please get another job, don’t spout B movie dialogue. You embarrass and shame other peace officers.

Those of you who have signed on to Mike’s statement are right out of the movies too. You’re the mindless gang of losers and bar sweeps that confront the sheriff at the front of the jail demanding he turn over a prisoner to be hanged. The sheriff backs the group down and they meekly leave in disgrace. Remember that part of the story before you strut and bluster. In fact, you put me in mind of the OWS mopes.

Other than that, have a marvelous day!

Mason on October 28, 2011 at 1:22 PM

That poster illustrates exactly why we should call them Fisters.

http://thepeoplescube.com/current-truth/teabaggers-vs-fisters-the-debate-is-over-t4536.html

Colbyjack on October 28, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Though it is a valid question:

When do you use lethal force against a government agent?

Their answers are ludicrous. If you’ve got cops indiscriminately discharging their weapons in crowds filled with women and children then by all means it’s time for some civilian application of violence. But to even suggest using violence against law enforcement officers at a sobriety checkpoint is so over the top I have to wonder if someone isn’t actively trying to make the occupy movement look worse than they are.

Probably not, but it makes me wonder.

Browncoatone on October 28, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Wasn’t this the Obamaville that had the 15 guys armed with AKs?

livefreerdie

Leader of that march in Phoenix.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/jt-ready

Hard Right on October 28, 2011 at 1:26 PM

A perfect example of why we need lawyers, for all of you lawyer haters out there.

A hope for Justice and “Hearings” is what defuses violence.

Obama’s brutality is what incites violence.

We need to rally around a good leader with a people connecting style that give people a reason to respect their Country again. Someone alert Herman Cain to go into the game.

Herman gets the respect Tom Brady once got…until Belichick played him once and the rest is history.

jimw on October 28, 2011 at 1:28 PM

LOL, hey I remember you-you claimed last year that Entitlement Spending is “mandatory”.

Mandatory spending, such as SS and Medicare is fixed in that our reps have very little to no budget maneuverability in dealing with it.

Pitchforker on June 11, 2010 at 6:29 PM

It’s mandatory spending in that these outlays cannot be trimmed down by Congress without a super-majority. S.S. and Medicare are technically unconstitutional anyway.

Pitchforker on October 28, 2011 at 1:28 PM

The progressive political establishment is now facing the entirely predictable issue of their decades of ideological follies, lies and mismanagement. These protestors are their “children” — chiefly the young and “liberally educated.” They are stuck with them.

rrpjr on October 28, 2011 at 1:29 PM

The G8 conference in Chicago (May 15-22 2012) is going to be an absolute nightmare.

Buy Danish on October 28, 2011 at 1:29 PM

I’d first suspect one of the neo-Nazi militia groups like J.T.Ready and friends. This is just fuel on the fire. They seem like the types that would start a fire then come to the rescue just so they could portray themselves as heros.

SPCOlympics

You nailed it.
http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=492665

Hard Right on October 28, 2011 at 1:29 PM

In my opinion, neo-nazis are unlikely. In Phoenix, the most animosity toward the police, especially the Sherrif (the original Sherrif Joe), comes from the illegal immigration supporters and the anti 1070 crowd. Also, I wouldn’t discount the possibility of Mexican drug cartels and smugglers.

azkag

I thought so too until I saw this:
http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=492665

Hard Right on October 28, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Wow. Amazing how so may supporters of police have shown up…

Sgt_H on October 28, 2011 at 1:36 PM

A perfect example of why we need lawyers, for all of you lawyer haters out there.

A hope for Justice and “Hearings” is what defuses violence.

Obama’s brutality is what incites violence.

We need to rally around a good leader with a people connecting style that give people a reason to respect their Country again. Someone alert Herman Cain to go into the game.

Herman gets the respect Tom Brady once got…until Belichick played him once and the rest is history.

jimw on October 28, 2011 at 1:28 PM

This current incarnation of our so-called country isn’t worth saving, in fact it doesn’t even resemble the glorious sanctuary the founders created. Over the last 100 years, it has degraded into a cess-pool of centralized fraud and moral relativism. So I don’t know why everyone is so adamant about preserving a nation that is largely corrupted by progressive & global institutions, from the Washington political class to the UN to the Department of Education.

Conservatives need to get it out of their head that they can turn around 100 years of conditioning and social engineering. It’s not happening. Let this abomination die and MAYBE we have a chance to rebuild, but given the trend, we’re all headed towards a 1984 styled dystopia. Prepare accordingly friends……..

Pitchforker on October 28, 2011 at 1:38 PM

First GUNWALKER….

…and now LEFT-WING-TERRORIST-WALKER!!!

landlines on October 28, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Mason on October 28, 2011 at 1:22 PM

First, before you take the stage you should know the play. I didn’t say anything about forgetting I am a Cop and going rogue. I said if I’d stop being a Cop and do whatever it takes to defend my brothers. That is not bluster, friend; it is just the way it is. I don’t hope for any of this and have no desire to blow away all these years toward retirement, but some things are more important than self. I doubt you can grasp that.

And I’m pretty comfortable with my understanding of my higher responsibility, thank you. Almost anyone on any police force anywhere has seen things and done things that rip them from sleep and bring that responsibility screaming into their brain at 3 AM more nights than they can count. You, my friend, have no clue. Unless you have been the one to zip the body bag on the kid that ODed on meds she stole from her own mother’s stash; or smelled the autopsy room at where that is done in your town; knocked on a door to advise a father his son has been in an accident; you don’t know a damned thing about that higher responsibility. Just take your sanctimonious BS and stuff it. Yes, Cops serve the public, but after about the first month on the job you learn that who you depend on is other Cops.

MikeA on October 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Ed, who alerted you of the flier?

maverick muse on October 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM

I live in Tucson and was listening to Jon Justice this morning. I sent it in to HotAir as a tip and Ed did the rest. Thank You Sir.

Ordinary1 on October 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM

TXUS on October 28, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Thanks, but I am too busy working 60 hours a week at a job and 20 hours a week at my own company.

Nathan_OH on October 28, 2011 at 1:48 PM

The push towards federalized police forces?

http://www.policeone.com/patrol-issues/articles/3139476-The-federalization-of-local-law-enforcement/

Pitchforker on October 28, 2011 at 1:49 PM

If the Occuppiers commit some violent act it will only be because the racists on the Right have driven them to it. /s

katiejane on October 28, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Conservatives need to get it out of their head that they can turn around 100 years of conditioning and social engineering. It’s not happening. Let this abomination die and MAYBE we have a chance to rebuild, but given the trend, we’re all headed towards a 1984 styled dystopia. Prepare accordingly friends……..

Pitchforker on October 28, 2011 at 1:38 PM

This place is a fever swamp today, chock-a-block with over heated silly talk.

Pitch, giving up means losing the battle -unconditional surrender – with absolutely no guarantee that we could ever build a better foundation or even restore our current one in the future. Look to the foundation man, not to the poisonous accretions. Don’t become a drama queen and concede the issue to the Obamaites and the others. They don’t really have the upper hand. They are bluffing and at the same time fowling their own ideological nest. They will soon be in full retreat. The slog back will be long and hard but that’s the nature of things. Don’t give up.

Mason on October 28, 2011 at 1:52 PM

That comes straight out of Bill Ayers playbook. It is 60′s all over again.

antisocial on October 28, 2011 at 1:59 PM

This place is a fever swamp today, chock-a-block with over heated silly talk.

Pitch, giving up means losing the battle -unconditional surrender – with absolutely no guarantee that we could ever build a better foundation or even restore our current one in the future. Look to the foundation man, not to the poisonous accretions. Don’t become a drama queen and concede the issue to the Obamaites and the others. They don’t really have the upper hand. They are bluffing and at the same time fowling their own ideological nest. They will soon be in full retreat. The slog back will be long and hard but that’s the nature of things. Don’t give up.

Mason on October 28, 2011 at 1:52 PM

It’s the general population, as opposed to the Fabian socialist heads and democratic mobs that worry me. They are ignorant, overly hedonistic, and extremely susceptible to the lies of the state. We’ve lost entire generations to this ridiculous mentality and I fear that this institutional grip on our hearts and minds is too strong to confront via political means. We haven’t been able to effectively turn back the tide against big government, while only slowing it’s encroachment.

Pitchforker on October 28, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Mike, Mike, Mike. Drop the Wambaugh prose, you are embarrassing yourself. You have further demonstrated your instability with this intemperate post. I’ve known and worked with guys like you many times in the past. Usually they remain carpers and complainers and grown to hate their jobs and the people they are pledged to protect. Others just die young of repressed anger and the booze. You apparently assume that I have no experience in these matters. You are wrong. Go talk to the department chaplain or psychologist. You should not be carrying this load alone.

Mason on October 28, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Will they hold the Occupy movement to the same ridiculous standard? I’m betting …. no.

Yep. The media will portray this as their “being driven” to actions such as this.

GarandFan on October 28, 2011 at 2:02 PM

It’s the general population, as opposed to the Fabian socialist heads and democratic mobs that worry me. They are ignorant, overly hedonistic, and extremely susceptible to the lies of the state. We’ve lost entire generations to this ridiculous mentality and I fear that this institutional grip on our hearts and minds is too strong to confront via political means. We haven’t been able to effectively turn back the tide against big government, while only slowing it’s encroachment.

Pitchforker on October 28, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Pitch, I take your point.

Mason on October 28, 2011 at 2:03 PM

That poster illustrates exactly why we should call them Fisters.

http://thepeoplescube.com/current-truth/teabaggers-vs-fisters-the-debate-is-over-t4536.html

Colbyjack on October 28, 2011 at 1:22 PM

You owe me a new keyboard! And I need a fresh cup of joe.
FISTERS — perfect.

Kenosha Kid on October 28, 2011 at 2:12 PM

For those who remember the late 60′s protests and civil unrest…is this what it felt like then?

jwehman on October 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM

“Off the Pigs”–Signature Black Panther Party slogan.

Barnestormer on October 28, 2011 at 2:19 PM

I can’t believe there aren’t a gaggle of RNC media-types right now crafting TONS and TONS of damning commercials right now for deployment over the next 12 months. It’s probably the easiest message they’ve ever had to concoct, against ANY incumbent who opened his/her mouth in favor/support of these anarchists.

jwehman on October 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM

BELIEVE IT! The Republicans have no spine whatsoever.

1. They won’t point out that the recession was caused by the Community Reinvestment Act, because they’re terrified of being called racists who want to deny people of color the right to buy houses that they can’t afford.

2. They won’t stick up for the Tea Party, because they believe that Americans hate the Tea Party, because the media says so, and when the media says “jump”, the Republicans say “how high”.

3. They won’t criticize Occupy Wall St, because they believe that Americans love Occupy Wall St, because the media says so, and when the media says “jump”………….

ardenenoch on October 28, 2011 at 2:33 PM

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