Flier at Occupy Phoenix asks, “When should you shoot a cop?”

posted at 12:05 pm on October 28, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Hot Air has confirmed with the Arizona Department of Public Safety that fliers have been found at Occupy Phoenix instructing people on when to shoot police officers.  First reported by the Jon Justice show on  104.1 FM in Tucson, the flier resulted in a counterterrorism alert issued to all law enforcement agencies in the state:

Copies of an “informational” letter were left on a table for protestors pick up [sic] and read during the “Occupy Phoenix” event at Cesar Chavez Park.  The presence of the letter was reported to the ACTIC by a Maricopa County Sheriff’s Deputy who had responded to an unrelated call and was alerted to it by another deputy working the event.

The letter is blatantly anti-government and anti-law enforcement in nature.  It not only condones but even encourages citizens to kill any “government agent” (i.e. law enforcement officers), who in their perception violates their rights.  Examples are given in the document, of “illegal” search and seizure, sobriety and border checkpoints, airport security, etc… In essence this document states that citizens have the right and moral obligation to resist any action by law enforcement that is viewed as a violation of the citizen’s rights, and often-times resistance involves killing officers.

“Occupy” events have drawn protestors for various causes including “Chalk the Police” and “Police Brutality Day”.  With emotions running high in regards to law enforcement and government personnel, there is obvious concern this document could incite actions with protestors to take actions they might not have taken otherwise.

It’s a lengthy flier, but these two paragraphs are worth noting, as they capture the general flavor of the missive:

Pick any example of abuse of power, whether it is the fascist “war on drugs,” the police thuggery that has become so common, the random stops and searches now routinely carried out in the name of “security” (e.g., at airports, “border checkpoints” that aren’t even at the border, “sobriety checkpoints,” and so on), or anything else.  Now ask yourself the uncomfortable question: If it is wrong for cops to do these things, doesn’t that imply that the people have a right to RESIST such actions?  Of course, state mercenaries don’t take kindly to being resisted, even non-violently.  If you question their right to detain you, interrogate you, search you, invade your home, and so on, you are very likely to be tasered, physically assaulted, kidnapped, put in a cage, or shot.  If a cop decides to treat you like livestock, whether he does it “legally” or not, you will usually have only two options: submit, or kill the cop.  You can’t resist a cop “just a little” and get away with it.  He will always call in more of his fellow gang members, until you are subdued or dead.

Basic logic dictates that you either have an obligation to LET “law enforcers” have their way with you, or you have the right to STOP them from doing so, which will almost always require killing them. (Politely asking fascists not to be fascists has a very poor track record.)

The flier goes on at length for two pages with much of the same vitriol.  Let’s try approaching the actual arguments presented in this screed, such as they are.  I’ll grant that police occasionally abuse their power, and that some functions like airport security have become overbroad and unnecessarily intrusive (in service to political correctness, actually).  In some cases, those abuses get taken to disturbing levels, as I have learned through personal experience and through the experiences of those close to me.  However, the vast majority of my contacts with law enforcement have been professional and even friendly.

When a law-enforcement officer crosses the line, people in a free society have more options than surrender or murder, however.  We can work to change the laws so that the abuses get curtailed, when the abuses come from the law itself (airport security and sobriety checkpoints among them).  We can pursue legal action when the abuses come from the police officers individually.  Put simply, contra this person’s hysteric and historically ignorant perspective, we don’t live in a fascist state or anything close to it.  This is a person straining mightily to give intellectual and philosophical cover for murderous intentions, which run seriously and deep.

I’m curious to see how the media in Arizona and the rest of the nation approach this development.  They went into convulsions retroactive to the Gabrielle Giffords shooting that killed six other people because Sarah Palin used crosshairs on a map once (as had Democrats on a number of occasions), which the media used to paint the Tea Party and conservatives as somehow responsible for the massacre conducted by a madman with no discernibly rational political posture.  Will they hold the Occupy movement to the same ridiculous standard?  I’m betting …. no.

Update: Verum Serum has more on the self-described anarchist whose writings were used for the flier, and his appearance at a Tea Party event in 2009.  It’s not clear whether Rose distributed the fliers or someone just lifted it for the Occupy Phoenix event.

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I went to Indiana University first and then LACUSCMC School of Nursing in the 60s. Yes, we had those nuts running around doing stupid things back then, but it was nothing like this. The thing that scares me now is that the OWS crowd seems to have at least partial backing by the government. Where do ordinary citizens go when the government is supporting the would-be destroyers of civilization?

Fair warning to our Mayor and City Council — don’t expect any votes from my family if you refuse to stand up to these nuts. I live in San Diego and I have had it up to the eyebrows.

hachiban on October 28, 2011 at 2:40 PM

Fox 5 News Reporter Assaulted At OWS

MYFOXNY.COM – A protester, angered by the presence of a news crew inside Zuccotti Park Friday morning, threatened to stab Fox 5 News reporter John Huddy.

What has been an otherwise violence-free period during his six weeks covering the Occupy Wall Street movement, took a turn for John Huddy. He explained what happened during Good Day New York:
“This is somebody I’ve come across several times for the last few days. He threatened to stab me in the throat with a pen. He ripped the mic out of my hand,” said Huddy.

Sharke on October 28, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Before these piles of goat dung start shooting in Arizona they’d do well to check the gun ownership per capita. Law abiding citizens never start a war but if one begins they will fight to win.

rplat on October 28, 2011 at 3:01 PM

Oakland Occupy

Marines protest police brutality fracturing peaceful veteran’s skull, Scott Olson requiring critical care surgery. Update, in stable condition, just regained consciousness.

Hm, anonymous.

Go figure.

maverick muse on October 28, 2011 at 3:59 PM

When should you shoot a hippie?

yubley on October 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM

Well, generally if you get them one-on-one just threatening them with a good b!tch-slapping is enough.

However, in a mob, well, sometimes they don’t understand reason so well. There’s always one guy in the back that eggs the others on to doing something they wouldn’t have the spine for in other circumstances.

If you slap that guy up a little the rest will run like the roaches they are.

Lily on October 28, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Lily on October 28, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Somehow, I’m not convinced you knew any hippies in their day.

I doubt that you recall Bill Ayers or Angela Davis.

Hollywood’s retro version of the day makes cartoons of violent upheaval and race wars burning down American business streets and neighborhoods, as if Jeff Bridges role as The Dude in any way typifies 60s-70s protesters.

Hippies? Many weren’t peaceniks at all, but extremely volatile and aggressive personalities. And the rest were the sheeple following the aggressors. Righteous indignation ran wild on all sides, as at Kent State.

maverick muse on October 28, 2011 at 4:20 PM

obama’s peeps.

crash72 on October 28, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Well, candidate Obama did caution that, if opponents brandish a knife, Obama’s minions should bring a gun to the fight…

locomotivebreath1901 on October 28, 2011 at 4:45 PM

And Oakland police shooting Marines at point-blank range will not make things better.

skydaddy on October 28, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Stop being silly! The person in question is a former marine. His military service is irrelevant to this story. He was not acting as a marine, dressed as a marine, or in anyway indicating that he was a former marine. The fact is that he decided to involve himself in a mob that went on a rampage and was injured during it. You try to make it appear that the Oakland police deliberately targeted him based entirely on his status as a former marine. How on earth were the police supposed to know that in the middle of that melee? Your statement is as silly as saying the US government intentionally slaughtered a Gulf War vet when they executed Timothy McVeigh.

Trafalgar on October 28, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Anti-Government and Anti-Police?

This is easy. Ron Paul drones produced this flyer.

Bleed_thelizard on October 28, 2011 at 5:04 PM

And Oakland police shooting Marines at point-blank range will not make things better.

skydaddy on October 28, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Apparently this Former Marine hates his former job and the military. Thankfully he is doing better, but this tidbit was missed in the nationwide reporting. From Verum Serum:

Iraq War Veteran Injured at OWS Oakland Founder of IHateTheMarineCorps.com

Ordinary1 on October 28, 2011 at 5:22 PM

That comes straight out of Bill Ayers playbook. It is 60′s all over again.

antisocial on October 28, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Wasn’t Ward Churchill down there a few months ago agitating in a local Tucson high school. I remember Glenn Beck covered it before he left Fox. Kind of makes you wonder how long they have been laying the ground work for what’s taking place in Arizona?

Dr Evil on October 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Remember what Ward Churchill called the people who were murdered in the Twin Towers on 9-11? Little Eichmanns. Anyone spotted ole Churchill at any of these OWS encampments?

Maybe Sheriff Joe Arpaio, should take an inventory of what riff raff is hanging around his county?

Dr Evil on October 28, 2011 at 5:53 PM

in the 60s. Yes, we had those nuts running around doing stupid things back then, but it was nothing like this.

hachiban on October 28, 2011 at 2:40 PM

Hmmm…well you obviously weren’t at many protests or riots. I give you: Chicago 1968, Watts 1965, Newark 1967, New York City 1969, the Black Panthers, the Weathermen, the SDS, etc. Sorry, the OWS doesn’t come close. But maybe you lived a sheltered life?

Deanna on October 28, 2011 at 5:58 PM

in the 60s. Yes, we had those nuts running around doing stupid things back then, but it was nothing like this.

hachiban on October 28, 2011 at 2:40 PM

Hmmm…well you obviously weren’t at many protests or riots. I give you: Chicago 1968, Watts 1965, Newark 1967, New York City 1969, the Black Panthers, the Weathermen, the SDS, etc. Sorry, the OWS doesn’t come close. But maybe you lived a sheltered life?

Deanna on October 28, 2011 at 5:58 PM

As a child of the ’60′s (born 1950) and a ex-hippie, Deanna’s right. It was a lot worse.

These little “lets go camp-out at the park and maybe get laid” were called “love ins” then.

Rod on October 28, 2011 at 6:33 PM

I remember the black girls bringing their free lunches into the bathrooms and covering the free lunch with toilet paper and setting it on fire.

Then we had the fire drills. Queens, NYC, P.S. 211. 1974.

Key West Reader on October 28, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Trafalgar on October 28, 2011 at 4:53 PM

So he was askin for it?

itsspideyman on October 28, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Sorry, disregard my previous post.

itsspideyman on October 28, 2011 at 7:07 PM

The fourth amandment is dead and buried. Get over it and quit talking about shooting cops.

flicker on October 28, 2011 at 7:22 PM

When to shoot the Colonels,

Any resemblances are kwinki-dink

http://itdontmakesense.blogspot.com/2010/01/when-to-shoot-colonels-by-tom-baugh.html

swimcoachmike on October 28, 2011 at 8:23 PM

The rap sheet so far: http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/10/28/occupywallstreet-the-rap-sheet-so-far/

onlineanalyst on October 28, 2011 at 8:28 PM

I live in Tucson and was listening to Jon Justice this morning. I sent it in to HotAir as a tip and Ed did the rest. Thank You Sir.

Ordinary1 on October 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Thank you, Ordinary1, for sending this tip in! Otherwise I never would have known what happened in my own backyard. The local media has failed us once again. I even emailed the link from HotAir to some of the Phoenix news stations. Still nothing… If this had happened at a Tea Party the LSM would have interrupted regular programs with news alerts.

GrannySunni on October 28, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Lily on October 28, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Somehow, I’m not convinced you knew any hippies in their day.

I doubt that you recall Bill Ayers or Angela Davis.

Hollywood’s retro version of the day makes cartoons of violent upheaval and race wars burning down American business streets and neighborhoods, as if Jeff Bridges role as The Dude in any way typifies 60s-70s protesters.

Hippies? Many weren’t peaceniks at all, but extremely volatile and aggressive personalities. And the rest were the sheeple following the aggressors. Righteous indignation ran wild on all sides, as at Kent State.

maverick muse on October 28, 2011 at 4:20 PM

I remember reading the Skaith trilogy (it was written in the mid 70′s) a couple of years back. It took me until half way through the 2nd book to realize that the main bad guys were hippies. It was, essentially Conan vrs the Hippies, set on Hoth.

Not the typical view you get of the hippie movement. Very illuminating, not the typical view.

Voyager on October 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM

You know, the Occupiers can have the anarchists. The Libertarians should get out of the GOP.

AshleyTKing on October 28, 2011 at 10:49 PM

MikeA on October 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Well said, MikeA.

Can’t add a thing.

listens2glenn on October 28, 2011 at 10:50 PM

I live in San Diego, and make it a point to regularly approach police officers and express to them that they are our local heros and then thank them for their service. When officers give me a ticket (which has happened recently) I thank them very politely and tell them that I know they are just doing what they are paid to do, that I feel that they are local heros and that they deserve to be thanked and then I thank them for their service!

(as an aside, when you get jury duty, tell the interviewing attornies that you are “law enforcement friendly” and have officers that are personal friends. You will be the first one out of the court room! I don’t know why but it always happens to me!) (;

Vntnrse on October 29, 2011 at 12:18 AM

Thank you, Ordinary1, for sending this tip in! Otherwise I never would have known what happened in my own backyard. The local media has failed us once again. I even emailed the link from HotAir to some of the Phoenix news stations. Still nothing… If this had happened at a Tea Party the LSM would have interrupted regular programs with news alerts.

GrannySunni on October 28, 2011 at 8:49 PM

It’s appalling to me that they won’t even report an actual alert to police. Appalling, but not surprising. The fix is in. Thank God for HotAir and the “New Media.”

I used to be a TV reporter, weatherman and anchor, and a network radio news director. I don’t understand how they can ignore this story.

Ordinary1 on October 29, 2011 at 1:55 AM

(Politely asking morons fascists not to be morons fascists has a very poor track record.)

Fixed it for him.

Squiggy on October 29, 2011 at 7:09 AM

If you read the comments of the post you linked, you’ll see that Larkin did not appear at a TEA Party event. He spoke afterward at a “Re Tea Party” event that was held later at the same location. The TEA Party event had ended and the banners were down.

He was not invited by nor did he speak at or for the TEA Party.

Thanks.

AJsDaddie on October 29, 2011 at 3:34 PM

And don’t go off half-cocked about the “police shooting marine in the head” business. You might want to look outside the LSM and see what others are saying. Check out the UK take on the story:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053502/Occupy-Oakland-Protesters-streets-NYC-solidarity-Scott-Olsen.html

Notice, nobody actually has any footage of Olsen being hit by a tear gas canister. In fact, nobody is sure WHAT hit him, or where it came from. They do know that people were throwing paint and other things at the cops.

I’m sorry he got injured. But nothing says police attacked him. Well, except for the sensationalist media.

AJsDaddie on October 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Just a note: Larkin Rose makes claims that he spoke next to Independence Hall where the July 4th, 2009 TEA Party was held. Except he wasn’t part of the official event but for a group calling itself “Re Tea Party” that showed up after the offical event ended: http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/Cup-O-Joel.html .

A check on “Re Tea Party” turns up as some sort of Democratic front group: http://democratsforsale.blogspot.com/2011/10/just-who-is-this-tea-party-supporting.html .

Oh, he alsos appears to be a bit thin-skined, as I found out with my first post about him at the Blaze.

bgwillia on October 29, 2011 at 11:54 PM

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