Oakland reoccupied?

posted at 12:45 pm on October 27, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

On Tuesday night, Oakland took the first major action against an Occupy Movement demonstration, clearing out Frank Ogawa Plaza with police after demonstrators refused to clear the grounds as ordered.  The city erected chain-link fencing to keep Occupiers from, well, occupying the plaza again.  Less than 24 hours later, hundreds of protesters returned to the plaza, tearing down the fencing and daring Oakland to try it again:

The fences came down at Oakland’s Frank Ogawa Plaza Wednesday evening during a general assembly meeting among “Occupy Oakland” protesters.

At least 500 protesters gathered at the plaza to reclaim the site of their encampment, which was raided by police early Tuesday morning. …

At 7 p.m., around 50 to 100 protesters succeed in tearing down sections of the fence on the opposite side of the plaza from where the meeting is taking place.

The group entered the grassy area, which city officials earlier on Wednesday said was in the process of being cleaned using chemicals.

So now what? A new KCBS poll in the Bay area shows that Oakland mayor Jean Quan didn’t win much support for her earlier action:

The poll, conducted Wednesday for CBS 5 by the firm SurveyUSA, showed 72% disapproved of her handling of the protests, which resulted in a violent clash with police on Tuesday evening.

In addition, the poll results showed 56% felt the police response was too harsh, while just 30% said the police response had been about right.

Only 11% said that the action wasn’t harsh enough, so Quan isn’t exactly losing favor with the law-and-order crowd. Now that the plaza has been reoccupied, Bay Area protesters have gone to San Francisco to block an attempt to shut down the protests there, too:

With public officials facing pressure from all sides in Los Angeles, New York, Atlanta, and other “occupied” cities, the lesson from Oakland will most likely be that action will largely be futile without a large police presence extending for considerable time to come. Don’t expect too much action from municipal authorities in this case.

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Put a fence around them, guard it, don’t let anyone or anything in except water or medicine, and wait for the temperatures to drop and the rain to start. This is California, they won’t freeze to death, but they’ll be very uncomfortable. When they leave, ID them as they go and present them with a bill from the city for their share of the damage and public services.

Socratease on October 27, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Take off.
Nuke the site from orbit.
Its the only way to be sure.

LegendHasIt on October 27, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Am I wrong, or are the vast majorities of these protests happening in cities under LIEberal control? Hmm! Perhaps more LOCAL tax increases are in order! /sarc

I personally like the idea of getting the identification of as many of the protesters as is possible. That should lead to a court date in which they end up getting fined for the damage caused.

TANSTAAFL people! ;o)

DannoJyd on October 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Astonishing precedents for 2012 are being set now by Obama’s fanatic ultra-liberal supporters.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 27, 2011 at 4:42 PM

There is no end game for this OWS crowd. What would it be? They aren’t asking for anything you could give them without violating the rights of the rest of us who are obeying the law and going through elected and court channels. This isn’t going to morph into anything beyond this occupation. Is there anyone with a brain on the democrat side who plays these things out to the end? It appears not after watching them cram through Obamacare and thinking that history ended after the vote. The frightening thing beyond these morons in OWS is the Democrat party which is beyond defective at this point. What is the dialogue and conversation going to look like in 365 days on this trajectory before the Presidential election? This is going to be beyond ugly and I am not just talking about these brainless wonders that the Democrat party is investing themselves in.

Conan on October 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Chaos, this is all part of the plan. Things are going to become even more messy. These #OWS cretins are only pawns, though they think they’re spearheading a revolution.

The thing with revolutions they don’t always end in sweetness and light for the loyal soldiers.

Sharr on October 27, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Does anyone know if Sunny’s Surplus sells napalm?

Laura in Maryland on October 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Oakland is doing it wrong. These hippies want to be in the plaza? Let them be in the plaza. Build the fence and put them in it, then don’t let them out. Let them have it their way by force.

MikeA on October 27, 2011 at 5:27 PM

The story about Scott Olsen, the Iraqi war vet who was injured is beginning to change. This version doesn’t blame the police, instead it’s ‘no one knows’ what hit him.

Coulda been a bottle from the crowd thrown at police, coulda been a new version of the ‘knock out game’ where you bludgeon someone and claim the cops did it.

The initial version was the version from the Occupy protesters and the media was quick to accept it, and blame the police.

Skandia Recluse on October 27, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Laura in Maryland on October 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Great idea!

That’ll keep ’em warm and cozy on those cold damp rainy nights.

: )

listens2glenn on October 27, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Just cut cell and WiFi service to the area. Without their own communication and the ability of the press to communicate it will change the whole nature of the protest.
rlyle on October 27, 2011 at 1:03 PM

Great idea……break out some jamming equipment.

Replace the fencing around them, with them on the inside. No one else enters, no one leaves. No food. No water. Get high intensity lights and position them around the perimeter. Turn them on at night so that it’s sunlight 24 hours a day in their little slice of heaven. After a few days of hunger, thirst and sleep deprivation start hauling them off to jail. If not, truck in a pre-fab warehouse and build the jail around them.
Left Coast Right Mind on October 27, 2011 at 1:17 PM

Don’t forget to add some really annoying noise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0cVlTeIATBs#t=3s

Or a soundtrack with the top 1000 most awesome conservative sayings.

Of course a water cannon shower could be used at 10pm to ensure everyone is clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1AWs7Ml-D94#t=60s

VikingGoneWild on October 27, 2011 at 8:44 PM

I think simply presenting them bills for the damage and the overtime for police. It’s all part of the mentality that somebody else pays for it. It’s government money. they don’t understand it is my money, your money.

odannyboy on October 27, 2011 at 10:03 PM

I wonder if any of these idiots realize that they are accomplishing absolutely nothing.

WisCon on October 27, 2011 at 10:06 PM

When the TV cameras go away, the protests will end on their own. Unlike the Tea Party’s grassroots genesis, the OWS movement is made-for-TV.

Adjoran on October 27, 2011 at 11:52 PM

Or they could just start blaster Slayer out of big amps. Hippies can’t stand Death Metal, it harshes their mellow.

Adjoran on October 28, 2011 at 3:08 AM

Nuke the site from orbit.

Does anyone know if Sunny’s Surplus sells napalm?

I haven’t read this site in a long time, because I have been posting at Jihadwatch instead. I used to think the people here were somewhat more sane than the sociopaths at JW, but now that I start reading posts such as those above, I see that you have closed the gap. Congratulations.

dave742 on October 28, 2011 at 8:50 AM

Who cares . . . soon the overwhelming stench and disease will put an end to their idiocy, then, get the firehouses and wash the scum from the streets.

rplat on October 28, 2011 at 9:00 AM

Oakland mayor backs down, lets protesters stay!

That figures! You just knew it was too good to be true, that a city as mentally liberally screwed as Oakland would actually take a stand against the poor, downtrodden Occupy Oakland mob.

Now the mayor has said she screwed up by clearing them out, has backtracked, there are calls for her resigntaion, and the Oakland public is polling strongly against the action that was taken.

Now, that’s government of the people, by the people, for the people, all right.

Now the city should go full monty and pass a protester tax so that the public can support the ongoing drain on city coffers.

That, I would actually respect!

cane_loader on October 28, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Nuke the site from orbit.

Does anyone know if Sunny’s Surplus sells napalm?

I haven’t read this site in a long time, because I have been posting at Jihadwatch instead. I used to think the people here were somewhat more sane than the sociopaths at JW, but now that I start reading posts such as those above, I see that you have closed the gap. Congratulations.

dave742 on October 28, 2011 at 8:50 AM

I could be wrong but I think it is called “joking around” jeeezz people have so little sense of humor anymore.

jsunrise on October 28, 2011 at 10:08 AM

jsunrise on October 28, 2011 at 10:08 AM

Now hold on there a galldern minute, sunshine.
dave has a point.
That kind of talk could incite someone to actually nuke or drop some napalm on them.

justltl on October 28, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Just imagine all the OWS you’d hear if they got naped.
shudder

justltl on October 28, 2011 at 12:40 PM

Relax. The local bums will take care of them. These poor fools are totally out-classed by your typical Oaktown Smelly-boy.

mojo on October 28, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Well good. I’d hate for safety, security, sanitation, health, or any concerns to avoid the college kids from doing whatever they want while breaking the law.

Quick question… is there a number where say if “X” of them go to the hospital with various treatable diseases from living out there; we’ll reconsider supporting them living like idiots?

Or do we just support them in their goal to show that basic sanitation, shelter, etc are useless and we can all live in tents, sh*tting where we eat, and sleeping where we care to without any concern for our well being?

If they have any other goal for their protest, I’ve still not gotten a clear idea of what it is, and how they propose it should be fixed… maybe the entire thing was to protest bathing?

gekkobear on October 28, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Soooooo….Oakland really wants their city government to promote more urine in the streets and poop on the lawn and doorsteps????

This will be a boon for tourism and business!

/sarc>

landlines on October 28, 2011 at 2:45 PM

So 500 people committed criminal mischief and burglary but no charges are being brought. Typical lib lawlessness.

eaglewingz08 on October 28, 2011 at 6:27 PM