Next governor to challenge PEU establishment: Jerry Brown?
posted at 6:07 pm on October 27, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Forget Scott Walker in Wisconsin and John Kasich in Ohio. Public-employee unions have a new bete noire to demonize, another governor threatening to challenge their power — and the source of their power. Only this time, it’s not a Republican, but a Democrat from one of the bluest states in the nation:
Gov. Jerry Brown will unveil a new pension plan for state workers Thursday, which is expected to raise the retirement age to 67 for new hires.
It would create a mandatory hybrid retirement system that would include some guaranteed benefits, but also a 401K-style plan that would be subject to the stock market and other investments.
It would also ban employees from spiking their compensation by piling up overtime and other benefits as they near retirement.
In one sense, this isn’t all that surprising. Brown presides over a state budget that is an utter disaster, largely because of the massively underfunded pension systems for state employees. Any rational executive would have to address this problem in order to put the state back on a realistic fiscal footing, but Brown’s predecessor — the nominally Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger — didn’t exactly demonstrate courage in challenging the state’s PEUs on pension reform.
However, even with that said, Brown’s gambit is notable for both his courage to go after the PEUs and the type of reform he’s proposing. Most states use defined-benefit models for their public-sector pensions, which is why their systems are nearing collapse. Brown moves significantly (although not entirely) towards a defined-contribution plan that essentially transforms pension systems into 401K instruments, as KNX reports. Also, the elimination of “spiking” takes a big step towards eliminating the kind of corrupt actions seen in California, where gaming pensions has become a common strategy in the final years of employment.
That has national ramifications, too, in terms of entitlement reform. With Brown pushing a privatized pension system for public-sector workers, it will be somewhat more difficult for Democrats to demagogue Republicans who propose at least partial (and voluntary) privatization of the Social Security system. Herman Cain has built his entitlement reform in this area on the so-called Chilean model, which conservative economists cheer, and which actually didn’t go quite as far as Brown’s proposal appears to do.
Needless to say, the PEUs aren’t going to take this lying down:
A union-funded pension reform group says the plan targets state workers.
“This is not a growing problem with pensions. It’s a growing problem of our economy failing and the pension programs not being as solvent as they were,” Steve Maviglio of Let’s Talk Pensions told CBS2. “So you’re actually taking a baseball bat to swat middle class Californians who put a lot of money back into our economy.”
It only “targets” state workers because the pension for state workers is the problem. Furthermore, after all the stories about six-figure pensions for public servants that Californians have seen, Maviglio’s argument is likely to fall flat with voters. Union money won’t fall flat in Sacramento, however, and you can bet that the PEUs will fight with everything they have to keep the pension system teetering towards collapse — and don’t be surprised if Democrats outside of California might join them.
Meanwhile, Californians might take heart from Wisconsin’s example. Americans for Prosperty and MacIver Institute explain that Walker’s reforms are working to fix their budget woes (via The Right Scoop):









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Good for Moonbeam for not kicking the can down the road.
John the Libertarian on October 27, 2011 at 6:13 PM
I can’t believe that Jerry forgot to use union math. If you use union math, the current pensions and benefits are so tiny that they’re “almost an insult. There’s no room to cut.”
RBMN on October 27, 2011 at 6:13 PM
He broke it. Let him try to fix it.
Cicero43 on October 27, 2011 at 6:14 PM
Jerry Brown to uinions: “Just stop it now!”
davidk on October 27, 2011 at 6:14 PM
This ought to be entertaining.
DanMan on October 27, 2011 at 6:14 PM
Democrats control about 2/3 in both the assembly and senate. Brown would have to convince a lot of people in his party to support the reforms.
El_Terrible on October 27, 2011 at 6:15 PM
It’s a start. We’re in deep water with the current pensions, and the changes here mainly affect new hires.
Mark1971 on October 27, 2011 at 6:16 PM
I also wonder why Brown didn’t do this earlier… Brown wanted to extend tax hikes, and the GOP would allow him to put it up for a vote if he moved forward on pension reform, but Brown didn’t take the deal.
El_Terrible on October 27, 2011 at 6:17 PM
For some reason, watching these statist tools try to unhoist themselves from their own petards is mighty satisfying.
greggriffith on October 27, 2011 at 6:17 PM
Yeah, this might just be for show.
Oil Can on October 27, 2011 at 6:17 PM
Jery Browns,
Oct 27 2011
Twelve Point Pension Reform Plan (PDF)
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http://gov.ca.gov/docs/Twelve_Point_Pension_Reform_10.27.11.pdf
canopfor on October 27, 2011 at 6:18 PM
Yeah, I think he’s guessing that the union won’t care about future hires (and that’s probably be true) as long as their piece of the pie is safe.
El_Terrible on October 27, 2011 at 6:19 PM
Kabuki Theater, that’s all this is. Maybe double-dip pensions will be stopped. Maybe. Maybe the practice of “air-time” will be stopped: Buying seniority for a plumper pension. But that’s all. This show is strictly for the rubes.
theCork on October 27, 2011 at 6:19 PM
Interesting,the Democrats are going to open up another Front,
on their own!
Looks like another Occupation Protest in the making!
canopfor on October 27, 2011 at 6:20 PM
Maybe because the Dems in the legislature would never have backed it. The GOP also wanted other things in addition to the pension reform, like an enforceable spending cap and an easing of business regulations.
Mark1971 on October 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM
Thats Jerry,not Jery!
canopfor on October 27, 2011 at 6:25 PM
Its a matter that California is running out of IOUs.
William Amos on October 27, 2011 at 6:27 PM
This is a back-room-designed baby step put forward to fool the rubes that the Democrats are going to take care of the pension mess while they are really blunting the attempts of actual reformers to put something on the ballot.
Mason on October 27, 2011 at 6:27 PM
Let’s not start soaping each others backs just yet…
The president of the state senate is a PEU Lawyer from way back.
The money the unions spend on elections, referendums, propositions, and TV advertising puts most large corporations to shame. (Over $100 million by most accounts, to torpedo Schwarzenegger’s ballot props in 2005)
In this case, I’d seriously heed admiral Ackbar’s dire warning>
Looks like a rope-a-dope to me.
Gunslinger on October 27, 2011 at 6:27 PM
Good for Brown, but we will see how much he really pushes this. Also, if the PE’s don’t like it and they already don’t then let them pay and collect social security like the rest of us.
rjoco1 on October 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM
Brown’s no hero. He’s the one who signed the legislation into law back in 1978 that allowed public employees to collective bargain in the first place. That was the beginning of the end for California.
Alibali on October 27, 2011 at 6:34 PM
I deplore most of the things Governor Moonbeam has done, most notably signing the so-called “California DREAM Act”.
But for this, and for taking away about half the BlackBerries issued to California state employees, I must commend him.
Only Nixon could go to China.
— Mr. Spock, quoting an “ancient Vulcan proverb”
Mary in LA on October 27, 2011 at 6:34 PM
I live in So. Cal…
… the unions have a strangle hold over Sacramento. I doubt much will come of this expect a quicker slide into the 3rd world, and the rest of you get to bail us out.
Pretty kewl if you think of it…
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Seven Percent Solution on October 27, 2011 at 6:59 PM
I suspect it’s kabuki. Brown knows the legislature will vote it down and then it will be huge tax increases “for the children” or some other BS.
When I worked in CA, a guy who had been gone for 10 years came back for one year and thus got a retirement at that salary instead of the one 10 years prior. Hey, but we’re a rich state!
PattyJ on October 27, 2011 at 7:04 PM
Exactly. I’ll believe it when I see it. Dems are about 2 or 3 votes shy of a 2/3 majority. Brown would have to get a majority in both houses to agree to submit the measure for a public vote. Just imagine what kind of crap will get loaded into the measure to “convince” that number of union-owned Democrats to vote for this…
peski on October 27, 2011 at 7:12 PM
Moonbeam really started to tick them off a few weeks ago, when he vetoed the Industrial Hemp Bill.
And now for your dining and dancing pleasure, here’s Jerry’s former squeeze, from long ago (1987)…this was before she became even loonier than he is now.
That’s NRBQ bassist Joey Spampinato exchanging vocals with Keef; Joey would later come in second to replace Bill Wyman with The Stones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8i5PEhtWzY
Del Dolemonte on October 27, 2011 at 7:26 PM
Brown’s the one who gave the PEUs their big boost in the 1970s. He still wants the rest of the taxpayers to fork over lots more in taxes. He’s also determined to keep regulating California into clinical death. He deserves no credit for telling the PEUs they have to cut back, any more than he deserves credit for telling welfare recipients they’ll have to cut back, or honest citizens that we’ll have to accept fewer police and firemen and more criminals on the loose.
Brown will do anything to preserve the status quo that allows his fellow regulatory ideologues to keep people from making a living as truckers or farmers in California. His chief objective is keeping those ideologues employed, dictating to everyone else what life will be like in the Golden State.
Of course he’s willing to offend constituencies like the PEUs and welfare organizers to do that. Doesn’t make him admirable. Just means he has priorities.
J.E. Dyer on October 27, 2011 at 7:29 PM
After taking millions (if not billions) from the PEU over the last 50 years, this is how the Democrats repay you…
Pass the popcorn!!
Khun Joe on October 27, 2011 at 8:00 PM
For all the trash we talk about Brown (some of it well-deserved), I know a number of people who lived in Oakland when he was mayor, and they all seemed to think he was a pretty good manager, who was not afraid to step on toes to turn the city around.
JohnGalt23 on October 27, 2011 at 8:11 PM
I’ll believe it when I see it. I wouldn’t trust Moonbeam any farther that I could throw him.
And he still hasn’t addressed the 118 Advisory Boards and Commissions – many duplicate in nature, that provide 6 figure salaries for the unre-elected and termed out politicians.
GarandFan on October 27, 2011 at 9:30 PM
A plan MUST “target” state workers because that is where the problem is. I am a resident of the State of California and I support this measure by Brown. It is common sense though it does not go far enough.
It still allows a public safety employee to retire at 55 on their customary “disability” retirement (which means 50% of their pension is exempt from state taxes) to even further boost their effective pension.
We have to target the public safety pensions. That is where most of the ridiculous spending is.
crosspatch on October 27, 2011 at 9:58 PM
There is already a drive for real pension reforms on the ballot now.
http://www.downloadpetitions.com/list.asp?initState=CA
1504. (11-0026) Reduces Pension Benefits for Public Employees. Creates a New State Retirement System for Private Sector Employees. Initiative Statute. 9/14/2011 2/10/2012 CA
1502. (11-0022) Increases Retirement Age for Teachers, Peace Officers, and Other Public Employees. Initiative Constitutional Amendment. 9/14/2011 2/3/2012 CA
1501. (11-0021) Increases Income Taxes on Teachers, Nurses, Police Officers, Firefighters, and Other Public Employees for Pension Income. Initiative Constitutional Amendment. 9/14/2011 2/3/2012 CA
1500. (11-0020) Eliminates Collective Bargaining Rights for Teachers, Nurses, Police Officers, Firefighters, and Other Public Employees. 9/14/2011 2/3/2012 CA
What Gov. Brown is proposing is measures that are not as comprehensive in an attempt to counter these real reform measures. Hopefully they get enough to sign these petitions and they get on the ballot and I encourage everyone from California to download, sign them and send them in.
JeffinSac on October 28, 2011 at 9:35 AM
And in ring #3…
mojo on October 28, 2011 at 1:40 PM
You’re a little off base here, Ed.
First, Jerry Brown created the problem back in his first go-round as guvn’r when he allowed collective bargaining for public employees to begin with.
And, I don’t see it as a “gambit”. It’s pure desperation.
Also, The Governator tried to make some moves which were courageous, namely, “the four initiatives”. Schwarzenegger said he would take the case to the people; the people said this is what they wanted; and then the people voted all four initiatives down – in massive numbers.
The state’s ungovernable – and I live in Marin where my rep is Lynn Woolsey, chair of the progressive caucus – so I have a decent sense of it. A giant crash will be the only thing that will result from the disastrous policies.
On the positive side, there will be lots of real estate on the cheap after the crash!
It all started with giving everybody trophies.
Pablo Snooze on October 28, 2011 at 2:41 PM