Riots erupt in Oakland, Atlanta clears out Occupiers

posted at 8:46 am on October 26, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Seems like Oakland has finally had enough of the Occupy Movement.  Hours after warning protesters to leave public property, police intercepted them as the demonstrators tried to return.  The mob attacked, and police went into full riot mode:

The police in Oakland dispersed hundreds of protesters using tear gas and flash bombs on Tuesday night as crowds tried to re-enter a plaza outside of City Hall that the authorities had cleared of an encampment earlier in the day. …

By Wednesday morning in downtown Oakland, a dim cloud of gas still hung in the air over Frank Ogawa Plaza, according to images broadcast on CNN. A small number of police in riot gear stood by barricades around the plaza and a handful of protesters held signs nearby.

“It sounded like bombs,” said Joaquin Jutt, 24, a digital animator who was among the protesters on Tuesday night. “There was a stinging and burning in my throat, eyes and nostrils. My eyes burned like there was hot sauce in them.”

Zombie continues his close coverage of Occupy on the West Coast with photos and video at PJ Tatler, and adds this:

 After the Occupy Oakland encampment was torn down early Tuesday morning by police, the ousted protesters reconvened outside the Oakland Library on Tuesday afternoon and voted to attempt a re-occupation of the same plaza from which they had just been evicted. Summoned by waves of emergency tweets and emails, fresh recruits joined the evicted Occupiers and early this evening once again marched on downtown Oakland, intending to reclaim Frank Ogawa Plaza.

But the Oakland Police were of course monitoring all this, and along with many other local police departments they were waiting for the protesters’ invasion. After an hours-long standoff at 14th and Broadway, interrupted by several confrontations and arrests, everything started to turn violent some time after 9:30pm.

What happens when you defy the police and try to “reclaim” a public plaza that the city allowed for a single use for weeks? This:

Be sure to check out the video message from an Occupier who promises to come to Oakland to arrest “every single officer involved,” if you want to start your day out with a laugh.

For the record, the Oakland PD denies that they were using flash-bang grenades:

Dozens of police in riot gear and hundreds of protesters in support of the Occupy Wall Street movement engaged in a game of cat-and-mouse in downtown Oakland on Tuesday, with authorities using tear gas to respond to demonstrators’ repeated agitations.

The latest such skirmish came around 11 p.m. as some protesters began throwing bottles among a crowd that had reconvened in front of City Hall, where a haze of chemical smoke still hung in the air following a similar clash at the site about an hour earlier.It was the fourth time police used tear gas in three hours.

Authorities have denied reports that they used flash bang canisters to help break up the crowds, saying the loud noises came from large firecrackers thrown at police by protesters. Police also report being attacked with rocks.

Overhead footage at KTVU suggests otherwise, however.  The video pretty clearly shows the explosions occurring in the middle of the crowd — which turned out to be an effective method of dispersing the rioters.  Police have had to use this strategy repeatedly during the night:

The protesters gathered at a library and marched through downtown Oakland and ultimately were met by police officers in riot gear. Several small skirmishes broke out and officers cleared the area by firing tear gas.

The scene has repeated itself several times since. But each time officers move to disburse the crowd, protesters quickly gather again in assemblies that authorities have declared illegal.

Acting Police Chief Howard Jordan told reporters at a late night news conference that authorities had no other choice, saying the protesters were throwing rocks and bottles at officers.”We had to deploy gas to stop the crowd,” he said.

We may see something similar in Atlanta this morning, where protestors have also worn out their welcome. So far, though, there seems to be little disturbance after 53 arrests were made overnight in clearing Woodruff Park, which has been liberated:

The park remained quiet and empty the morning after Atlanta police arrested 53 Occupy Atlanta protesters after multiple warnings.

Organizers had urged protesters who were not arrested to return to the park at 6 a.m., but there were none in the park at 8:30. About two dozen Atlanta police officers remained on the perimeter of the park, which was surrounded by 4-foot metal barricades.

The protesters who were arrested have bond hearings at Atlanta Municipal Court starting at 8 a.m. Two protesters with signs arrived outside the courtroom shortly before the hearings began.

Mayor Kasim Reed told reporters more than 100 officers were involved in the operation to clear the park, adding the protests, which started more than two weeks ago, had cost the city roughly $300,000.

Officers swarmed the park around 12:45 a.m. The arrests were orderly and peaceful, though some of the protesters had to dragged out. By 1:30 a.m. the park had been cleared and by 2 a.m. onlookers and demonstrators who watched from the perimeter had largely dispersed as police maintained a significant presence downtown.

Expect more from other Occupy locations as city government loses patience with the demonstrations and the damage they do.

Update: A comment from Trafalgar deserves a highlight: “Correction needed Ed. The police did not go into full riot mode. The protestors went into full riot mode and Oakland PD responded accordingly.  Retired Oakland PD and proud of my guys!”  Yeah, that’s a fair point, and thank you for your service, Trafalgar.  Also, a couple of commenters questioned whether police actually have flash-bang grenades, and suggest that what we see may be less-powerful ordinance or maybe firecrackers that didn’t get tossed expertly by rioters.  I’ve seen plenty of firecrackers and a few cherry bombs and those look too large to be either (and seem too well placed to be accidental), but it’s a good idea to keep an open mind.

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Watch media coverage of “Occupy” drop sharply, now that we start seeing what types make up the occupiers…

PatriotRider on October 26, 2011 at 8:49 AM

Way to go Oakland PD. Give those men and women a well deserve bonus.

gophergirl on October 26, 2011 at 8:49 AM

My eyes burned like there was hot sauce in them.

Awww. That’s too bad. /

Paul-Cincy on October 26, 2011 at 8:50 AM

SAVE CAPITALISM!!!!…..EAT A PROTESTER!!

T-Shirts to be sold like this around all Occupy sites soon (by some exploitive capitalist)?

BWWWWBBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

PappyD61 on October 26, 2011 at 8:50 AM

Glenn Beck is so good at predicting these things (months in advance) that it’s almost like the protesters work for him. “Cue the riots!”

RBMN on October 26, 2011 at 8:50 AM

“They’re not that different from some of the protests that we saw coming from the Tea Party”
 
- President Barack H. Obama, Oct. 18, 2011

rogerb on October 26, 2011 at 8:51 AM

Occupy Cincinnati was cleared out earlier this week. A bunch of $100 citations and a few dozen arrests did the trick.

Paul-Cincy on October 26, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Just the thought of all those down twinkles brings tears to my eyes.

Extrafishy on October 26, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Just like the Tea Party.

Good Lt on October 26, 2011 at 8:53 AM

Riots erupt in Oakland

Unexpectedly?

coldwarrior on October 26, 2011 at 8:53 AM

“I have a right to throw bottles and rocks at police.”

-triple

Bishop on October 26, 2011 at 8:55 AM

Overhead footage at KTVU suggests otherwise, however. The video pretty clearly shows the explosions occurring in the middle of the crowd — which turned out to be an effective method of dispersing the rioters. Police have had to use this strategy repeatedly during the night:

Thats what a tear gas canister looks like when it activates. Flash bangs don’t spew large clouds of “smoke”. Keep focused on the area where the flash is. You’ll see the tear gas cloud form shortly after the flash.

If flash-bangs had been used, people in the immediate area around the “pop” would not be running away. They’d be incapacitated and disoriented. Sorta like being exposed to the Orb of Confusion.

BobMbx on October 26, 2011 at 8:56 AM

Damn fascistic Republican mayors!

/

mankai on October 26, 2011 at 8:56 AM

grim.

ted c on October 26, 2011 at 8:57 AM

I wonder if this thing has gone on too long and its becoming stale, boring and overrated. Its like some reality show, they have to up the shock factor to keep the viewership engaged….?

ted c on October 26, 2011 at 8:58 AM

Funny, the first cities to crack down on these “occupy” morons are run by the same political party that most of them would vote for without any hesitation.

Mord on October 26, 2011 at 8:58 AM

What’s truly pathetic about this “movement” is that it’s been going on for over a month, yet they’ve done little to nothing to advance their cause. They could’ve used the publicity from the drive-bys along with all that free time they had to start something akin to a left-wing version of the Tea Party. Instead they p-ssed away the opportunity by instead getting stoned, chanting mindless slogans, and alienating a majority of the public.

Doughboy on October 26, 2011 at 8:59 AM

At Tea Party rallies, any cop we walked past, we would take a moment to thank the guy, pat him on the shoulder. These folks here in oakland and atlanta….eh, not so much.

ted c on October 26, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Oakland is such a beautiful and peaceful city too, this is a shame.

Bishop on October 26, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Just like the Tea Party.

Good Lt on October 26, 2011 at 8:53 AM

Yep. Remember when the Tea Party had that big demonstration in D.C. and they totally trashed the place, defecated on police cars, urinated on people’s front doors, stunk up the place, and didn’t leave for WEEKS since they don’t have jobs or families or responsibilities? Man, that was rough…..

I’m not a big joiner of political demonstrators, but if I were to pick one, I’d prefer the one where people didn’t act like total twats. Note: That would be the Tea Party…. :)

mjk on October 26, 2011 at 9:01 AM

Obviously, it’s all because those cops are short-handed and underpaid!! JoeBiteMe told ya that would happen!!

/.

CaveatEmpty on October 26, 2011 at 9:02 AM

Elizabeth Warren “I caused this with my intellect”

William Amos on October 26, 2011 at 9:02 AM

The OPD is working way too hard at this. All they really needed to do was “down twinkle” the crowd and they’d have dispersed on their own. Nobody can withstand a sustained down twinkle.

SoRight on October 26, 2011 at 9:03 AM

It’s young… it’s spontaneous… it’s sociopathic!

Own it, Democrats.

mudskipper on October 26, 2011 at 9:04 AM

The mob attacked, and police went into full riot mode

Correction needed Ed. The police did not go into full riot mode. The protestors went into full riot mode and Oakland PD responded accordingly.

Retired Oakland PD and proud of my guys!

Trafalgar on October 26, 2011 at 9:04 AM

How many arrests were there at Tea Party rallies….Oh yeah, Tea Parties were done after a day or so at most, left the places they rallied at cleaner, and were deferential to reasonable demands of law enforcement.

Sekhmet on October 26, 2011 at 9:04 AM

This is only the beginning. They’ll be back in larger numbers. And these riots will be repeated in NYC and across the country.

tommyboy on October 26, 2011 at 9:05 AM

BobMbx on October 26, 2011 at 8:56 AM

I have never heard a police style Flash-Bang, but those little “pops” wouldn’t do more than startle a person and make their ears ring for a couple minutes. I have heard “grenade simulators” go off, that would be more like what I think would be used to temporarily incapacitate and/or disperse a hostile crowd.

A firecracker will make you jump, a real explosion will make you soil yourself.

Mord on October 26, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Democrat mayors in Democrat cities clearing out the Democrat protesters.

Delicious. More, please.

Are you taking notes, Mikey Bloomberg?

JammieWearingFool on October 26, 2011 at 9:05 AM

But wait … “We’re on the side of the (unionized) police! They are the 99%!”

Yeah, and so are your Democrat city Mayors … the ones kicking your worthless, filthy hippie as$es out of their parks? Right … everyone is tired of having vermin overwhelm their cities, and they have decided to exterminate some of them.

Sorry, OWS dipsh!ts.

Jaibones on October 26, 2011 at 9:07 AM

Then there’s Providence…which plans to sue the occupiers.

Memo to Mayor Tavares: Pursuing legal action means sending the cops in to restore law and order. You don’t need a judge to read the law to you or them.

Pablo on October 26, 2011 at 9:07 AM

Violence inherent in the Left.

rbj on October 26, 2011 at 9:08 AM

Are you taking notes, Mikey Bloomberg?

JammieWearingFool on October 26, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Michelle Bloomberg. No cojones.

fogw on October 26, 2011 at 9:08 AM

Own it Democrats!

WisCon on October 26, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Are you taking notes, Mikey Bloomberg?

JammieWearingFool on October 26, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Probably not. Bloomberg is a bit short sighted. :-)

coldwarrior on October 26, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Here, occupy this cloud of tear gas…

backwoods conservative on October 26, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Just like the Tea Party.

Good Lt on October 26, 2011 at 8:53 AM

Don’t remind me! I still can’t get the smell of flash-bomb smoke and tear gas out of my keffiyeh. My eyes were watering for a week after the New Lenox, Illinois Tea Party Protest/Occupation.

s/

Jaibones on October 26, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Overhead footage at KTVU suggests otherwise, however.

Major quibble here Ed. This is an irresponsible assumption on your part. If OWSers are using firecrackers it is certainly reasonable that they had one detonate in their midst.

Furthermore, flash bangs are far from benign. The Oakland officers certainly would be reluctant to use them because they can do harm, not only to protestors. If a flash bang goes off in a person’s hand fingers or a hand will be lost. And they have a short fuse and so such accidents do occur from their use. And they also have the potential to cause permanent hearing loss.

They are not civilian dispersal devices. I imagine they would only be used when the officers are put in a position to defend their own or other’s lives.

NotCoach on October 26, 2011 at 9:11 AM

Are you taking notes, Mikey Bloomberg?

JammieWearingFool on October 26, 2011 at 9:05 AM

No, he’s changing his underwear again. Keeps wetting himself whenever he gets a news update from Oakland.

Jaibones on October 26, 2011 at 9:11 AM

I have never heard a police style Flash-Bang…

Mord on October 26, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Flash-bang grenades are used to temporarily stun a suspect with noise and light so an arrest team can take him down while he’s disoriented. They only work in confined spaces and have little to no effect outdoors and are not used in crowd control/riot situations because of that. What you’re most likely seeing are tear gas cannisters popping off or “Stinger” grenades which are launched over a crowd and go off, showering the crowd with hundreds of stinging rubber pellets and tear gas.

Trafalgar on October 26, 2011 at 9:11 AM

Scott Brown ad team should be working overtime right now.

fossten on October 26, 2011 at 9:12 AM

Could we use flash bombs to remove Obama?

He IS a 1%er.

artist on October 26, 2011 at 9:14 AM

Are the drums gonna be okay?

Fallon on October 26, 2011 at 9:14 AM

“Stinger” grenades which are launched over a crowd and go off, showering the crowd with hundreds of stinging rubber pellets and tear gas.

Trafalgar on October 26, 2011 at 9:11 AM

In certain circles those are used as party-enhancers.

Extrafishy on October 26, 2011 at 9:16 AM

If only some compassionate people would let these people go to college for free!

Nethicus on October 26, 2011 at 9:18 AM

I’m all for arresting and tear-gassing and flash-banging all they want.

BUT…I think it was actually a better plan to let them self-destruct. Maybe this pushes them in that direction…I sure hope so.

But the LAST thing we need (and the MOST thing OWS needs) is a few martyrs.

It might even cause Crosby Stills & Nash to resurface.
The horror…the horror…shudder.

connertown on October 26, 2011 at 9:19 AM

Just the thought of all those down twinkles brings tears to my eyes.

Extrafishy on October 26, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Of laughter, I hope!

LibraryGryffon on October 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM

Here, occupy this cloud of tear gas…

backwoods conservative on October 26, 2011 at 9:10 AM

HA! That made me laugh.

Trafalgar on October 26, 2011 at 9:11 AM

Thanks, I figured they would only really be used indoors, otherwise the explosive force would have to be dangerous in order to be effective. Any explosion in an enclosed space seems to be an order of magnitude louder than when outside.

Mord on October 26, 2011 at 9:22 AM

connertown on October 26, 2011 at 9:19 AM

Anti-war protestors of the 60′s and early 70′s never helped Dems electorally. In fact they harmed them. Baby boomers did not become a threat to our liberties until they started running for political office.

NotCoach on October 26, 2011 at 9:22 AM

Those rioting in Oakland would be much more effective if they didn’t have a video camera (phone, etc…) in one hand while trying to throw something with the other.

What’s truly pathetic about this “movement” is that it’s been going on for over a month, yet they’ve done little to nothing to advance their cause. They could’ve used the publicity from the drive-bys along with all that free time they had to start something akin to a left-wing version of the Tea Party. Instead they p-ssed away the opportunity by instead getting stoned, chanting mindless slogans, and alienating a majority of the public

Sounds right to me. Besides socialism, and free stuff, what do they want to accomplish?

They want jobs, but thanks to BO, there aren’t any. And yet, they would will vote for him again.

Texican Ben on October 26, 2011 at 9:23 AM

Glenn Beck is right yet again. They called him a nut job when he predicted this would happen.

NickDeringer on October 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Overhead footage at KTVU suggests otherwise, however. The video pretty clearly shows the explosions occurring in the middle of the crowd — which turned out to be an effective method of dispersing the rioters. Police have had to use this strategy repeatedly during the night:

Is it written into the rules somewhere that cops have to be habitual liars to get hired? I mean seriously, why not just admit you used flashbangs or some sort of weaker version of a flashbang? I say weaker because I don’t think the crowds would disperse that quickly if those were regular flashbangs. Don’t they disorient people quite a bit?

Benaiah on October 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Be sure to check out the video message from an Occupier who promises to come to Oakland to arrest “every single officer involved,” if you want to start your day out with a laugh.

Deep in my heart I think he’s going to regret posting that. Nice fall back on the standard issue Mom/Dad “threat” at the end.

Cindy Munford on October 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Freedom of speech is a right.

A platform for speech is not a right.

The Left can not/will not/will never understand this.

visions on October 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Tinfoil hat on.

Are the Dem mayors clearing the trash because it makes Obama look bad?

OldEnglish on October 26, 2011 at 9:26 AM

Raider Nation: “Not in our House!”

infidel4life on October 26, 2011 at 9:26 AM

I’m pretty sure that was a video from a Tea Party protest….
Now if we could only get the idiots who stated that these jerks were just like the Tea Party on video explaining their idiotic comments….
They waited to long to break these guys up…but now that they have made the move, make it decisive and forceful.
Make sure these punks know what it is like to “grow up” and be treated like an adult…

right2bright on October 26, 2011 at 9:26 AM

What we have here is the result of a failed educational system –
those old-fart protesters of the ’60s could have taught these punks a thing or three, but no-o-o-o-o-o…

in other words:
“Those who learn re-written history are doomed to learn it again”

/.

CaveatEmpty on October 26, 2011 at 9:26 AM

Obama’s Army.

Key West Reader on October 26, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Perhaps Donny Deutsch Douche-bag will get his Kent State moment after all!

pain train on October 26, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Don’t remind me! I still can’t get the smell of flash-bomb smoke and tear gas out of my keffiyeh. My eyes were watering for a week after the New Lenox, Illinois Tea Party Protest/Occupation.

s/

Jaibones on October 26, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Don’t think the lefties didn’t want to do this to the Tea Partiers … you know, the real threat to civility.

MeatHeadinCA on October 26, 2011 at 9:27 AM

I had 10 years of SWAT service and can tell you those were not flash-bangs – that was just the tear gas cannisters going off. Those type of cannisters are safe to use outdoors but can cause fires in buildings with carpets etc being potentially flammable.

ObamatheMessiah on October 26, 2011 at 9:28 AM

Is it written into the rules somewhere that cops have to be habitual liars to get hired? I mean seriously, why not just admit you used flashbangs or some sort of weaker version of a flashbang?

Benaiah on October 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM

See my explanation of flash-bangs above. As I also mentioned, I’m retired OPD and take extreme offense of your characterization of all cops are liars. The men and women I know at OPD are some of the most honorable, decent, honest people I’ve ever met. Furthermore, the police have no motivation to lie about ordinance used. Tear gas cannisters, Stinger grenades, flash bangs, etc. leave easily identifiable evidence behind. If a reporter asks me if I deployed flash bang grenades and in fact I deployed CS cannisters, then my answer is going to be “No”, and it is true.

Trafalgar on October 26, 2011 at 9:29 AM

Thinking back to the trio of singing Grannies whose public rendition of “God Bless America” had Napolitano all tied in angst-knots, sending out the riot gear.

Those were TEA PARTY Grannies, by the way. On their first afternoon of joining in, singing peacefully, with permits to gather.

Versus this Occupy mess that’s been going on now for a month, complete with every public nuisance if not also gathering crimes and other violence that has until recently gone unabated.

And there you have Oakland, one of the most Leftwing among Leftwing cities, having to apply a riot-response of force to rioters. I guess Napolitano is OK with this rendition of violence, especially since these Oakland (and Cleveland, and New York, and Atlanta, and D.C., and…) perpetrators aren’t Conservative, are not peaceful, aren’t Grannies singing “God Bless America” who picked up their own trash, what trash they even had.

I have gone way past ::face palm:: reactions to this plight affecting our nation called the Obama Administration and the lost people who made that possible.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 9:30 AM

The lsm will trash the cops of course

cmsinaz on October 26, 2011 at 9:31 AM

It’s a Dead Man’s Party!

Mutnodjmet on October 26, 2011 at 9:32 AM

What you call “Flash/Bang”
Is a Tear Gas Canister
When it is deployed.

People are being confused over terminology. The Tear Gas Canisters go off with a flash and a bang, but that does not make them a Flash/Bang Grenade. A Flash/Bang Grenade is much flash-ier and much, much bang-ier.

Nobody is going to be stunned by the puny bang from a Tear Gas Canister. The purpose of the bang on a Tear Gas Canister is to let people know it is being deployed and to startle them. The purpose of a Flash/Bang Grenade is to incapacitate them, so it is much more intense, with a much higher chance for permanent injury.

Haiku Guy on October 26, 2011 at 9:33 AM

I lived in the by area for several years. Oakland has a very large black population, however it seems the vast majority of protesters are white people. A friend of ours living in San Jose (attending college) received an email blast from a local Liberal blogger with marching orders for the occupy Oakland protests. Our friend is no Liberal so she ignored the email, but this is being organized on multiple levels and they are going after college students.

Keemo on October 26, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Theme song for videos of police dispersing occupiers should be the Eagles “Get Over It”

Margee on October 26, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Just the thought of all those down twinkles brings tears to my eyes.

Extrafishy on October 26, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Of laughter, I hope!

LibraryGryffon on October 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM

No, tear gas.

ss396 on October 26, 2011 at 9:36 AM

I don’t remember the Tea Party movement of Trash, Destroy and Riot…. does anyone else?

Why do liberal men and women always have to sqwat on what they don’t own, take what isn’t theirs to begin with, throw a tempertantrum and always get their way and then wonder why people treat them like 3 yrs olds.

upinak on October 26, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Maybe these mayors are realizing this could turn into an LA skid row place if the ACLU starts the lawsuits they are so good at.They would never get rid of them if that happens.

docflash on October 26, 2011 at 9:36 AM

The only thing that might be a flash bang seems to be in the second video, but it seems to high in the air.

Zaggs on October 26, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Freedom of speech is a right.

A platform for speech is not a right.

The Left can not/will not/will never understand this.

visions on October 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Any and all who participate in the Occupy thing could have received far better attention and responses to their concerns had they peacefully assembled before state offices and the White House and/or Congress, read their wants and issues one at a time at a podium, then went around and cleaned up after themselves and then departed.

Oh, wait, that was the Tea Party behavior.

The Left’s behaviors have been degenerate but I can’t say I am surprised. Why they cannot enunciate their issues clearly and respectfully, I don’t know, but that they can’t or won’t speaks more about who they are than anything they might have to say. Still waiting to hear just why they’ve camped out and ruined public spaces.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 9:36 AM

A Flash/Bang Grenade is much flash-ier and much, much bang-ier.

Haiku Guy on October 26, 2011 at 9:33 AM

I recall we once lobbed a real flash-bang in through a bathroom window of a house to incapacitate a suspect just as the SWAT team was making entry. It landed in the toilet and blew it to pieces. A thing of beauty!

Trafalgar on October 26, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Keemo on October 26, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Did you go on your trip yet?

Cindy Munford on October 26, 2011 at 9:37 AM

The only thing that might be a flash bang seems to be in the second video, but it seems to high in the air.

Zaggs on October 26, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Most likely a “Stinger” grenade

Trafalgar on October 26, 2011 at 9:38 AM

Our places of higher education were hi-jacked by the Progressives decades ago. This must end and we must get back to using such places as a tool to educate our youth for the sole purpose of advancing humanity by way of allowing such people to advance themselves thus advancing humanity with their creations and hard work. Progressives have destroyed our education system, our entertainment and arts, our media, on and on and on… Truly a disease.

Keemo on October 26, 2011 at 9:38 AM

Actually, that Oakland video invoked in me a brief envy of the cops involved. I know it’s tough dangerous duty, but still it had to be immensly satisfying.

a capella on October 26, 2011 at 9:38 AM

Perhaps if the authorities had not sat back for weeks and let the “protesters” violate the law with no consequence, it would not have been so difficult to disperse them. A lot of these “protesters” (I think squatters would be a better term) have nothing better to do, or would rather squat in a park eating free food than attend classes or work. They aren’t going away voluntarily. Giving in to them, allowing them to sit in these parks for weeks, is not going to lead to any good result, as was demonstrated in Oakland. I hate to think what will happen when NYC is finally forced to clear out Zuccotti park. The longer they wait, the more violent the protesters will become when the city tries to make them leave. Hopefully, cold weather will get rid of some of them, at least in NYC, but I wouldn’t count on it.

mbs on October 26, 2011 at 9:40 AM

It has been a long time since I was last in Oakland. At the time, it was a majority Black and Asian city. So where did all those white punks come from?

Ed: one small correction. You wrote, “Zombie continues his close coverage…” I’ve heard many times that Zombie is a woman. Of course it’s not possible to verify unless you actually know her, since I’m not aware of any posts that Zombie has written from a distinct gender viewpoint (in contrast to fellow anonymous poster, our famous beta-Male Allahpundit).

Anton on October 26, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Did you go on your trip yet?

Cindy Munford on October 26, 2011 at 9:37 AM

I don’t understand the question…

Keemo on October 26, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Is it written into the rules somewhere that cops have to be habitual liars to get hired? I mean seriously, why not just admit you used flashbangs or some sort of weaker version of a flashbang? I say weaker because I don’t think the crowds would disperse that quickly if those were regular flashbangs. Don’t they disorient people quite a bit?

Benaiah on October 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM

You have no idea what you bare talking about. As a former SWAT officer I can assure you those were just tear gas cannisters. Flash-bangs do generate smoke and also are innefective outdoors. Flashbangs work ina confines area, making loud noise, bbright light and raising atmospheric pressure in the room.

ObamatheMessiah on October 26, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Trafalgar on October 26, 2011 at 9:37 AM

I don’t think most people know what a flash-bang really is. It is not a party favor. It is designed to blind and deafen people. And when you do those things you run the risk of actual injury.

NotCoach on October 26, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Tin soldiers and Obama’s coming… We’re finally on our own.

Sing with me, hippies!

mankai on October 26, 2011 at 9:41 AM

do NOT generate smoke – (typo)

ObamatheMessiah on October 26, 2011 at 9:41 AM

…A friend of ours living in San Jose (attending college) received an email blast from a local Liberal blogger with marching orders for the occupy Oakland protests. Our friend is no Liberal so she ignored the email, but this is being organized on multiple levels and they are going after college students.

Keemo on October 26, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Of COURSE college students have been targeted. They’ve also been lied to for several generations now that earning money is “evil” and that American business enterprise under Capitalism is “evil,” too.

THE WEIRD THING IS that their ever – rising college costs (one of the few lucid complaints I’ve heard from the Occupy people, that they can’t pay their college loans on jobs they either don’t have or which don’t pay enough to meet the responsibilities of debt repayment and being self-supporting simultaneously)…the weird thing is that the costs are so much higher lately due to teacher’s unions. Schools have been pushing access to student loans because it increases federal funding to those schools AND it assists in turnaround the ever growing demands by teachers unions and “benefits” for all those public employees.

The Occupy people should have been protesting Congress and the White House AND the schools AND the unions responsible; instead, they’ve been protesting everyone but those responsible.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Overhead footage at KTVU suggests otherwise, however. The video pretty clearly shows the explosions occurring in the middle of the crowd —

Those are the tear gas canisters going off, not flash bang grenades.

JeffinSac on October 26, 2011 at 9:43 AM

I don’t remember the Tea Party movement of Trash, Destroy and Riot…. does anyone else?
upinak on October 26, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Also, way deficient in the rape and theft categories. The TP needs to up its game in those areas if it wants favorable reviews in the media.

a capella on October 26, 2011 at 9:43 AM

Freedom’s last breath.

mythicknight on October 26, 2011 at 9:43 AM

I wonder how the maters and paters of all of those arrested feel having to bail out their little occupiers from jail? Hmmmmmmmm? Delicious! :)

sicoit on October 26, 2011 at 9:44 AM

A tangential report: tenured faculty at the University of California have entire websites that ridicule and sometimes forcefully lie about the Tea Party ‘movement’, especially among sociology-types, the customary Leftwing, Progressive faculty types.

But to read such hoopla if not violent nonsense from faculty members who are expected instead to be unprejudiced in their reports of issues, it’s despicable coming from faculty members. Who, I add, have no firsthand knowledge or familiarity WITH the Tea Party ‘movement’.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 9:46 AM

I wouldn’t doubt that some of the protestors have munitions or access to munitions, and are willing to use them. There may be goofy ineffectual hippies among them, but I get the sense that there are some pretty bad actors as well.

yocheved on October 26, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Biggest loser? Obama when in Denver advocates foregiveness of student loans for these OWS losers. With cities seeing their budgets busted by these freeloaders, the public is hopping mad. Just wondering when that “Kent State” moment called for by MSNBC idiot Donny Deutsch comes about – you know this is what the lame stream media is hoping with bated breath will occur.

Bob in VA on October 26, 2011 at 9:47 AM

See my explanation of flash-bangs above. As I also mentioned, I’m retired OPD and take extreme offense of your characterization of all cops are liars. The men and women I know at OPD are some of the most honorable, decent, honest people I’ve ever met. Furthermore, the police have no motivation to lie about ordinance used. Tear gas cannisters, Stinger grenades, flash bangs, etc. leave easily identifiable evidence behind. If a reporter asks me if I deployed flash bang grenades and in fact I deployed CS cannisters, then my answer is going to be “No”, and it is true.

Trafalgar

Except they didn’t just say, “No.” They claimed it was fireworks thrown by the crowd at the police which is clearly BS. The bangs, whatever device they came from, were made by whatever the cops used to disperse the crowds. Again I’m forced to ask, why lie? Why is it that when a cop opens his mouth I know BS is going to spew out of it? It’s from years and years of videos showing them doing exactly that. I’m sure there are good, honest, decent cops around but the last one I met was over 20 years ago.

Benaiah on October 26, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Trafalgar on October 26, 2011 at 9:37 AM

I fired 3 rounds from an M-16 propped across my left arm, without hearing protection, while driving a truck during convoy training. Never again, I was almost deaf for a few days.

I’m the idiot who forgot to put in ear plugs, but it was still pretty awesome. I actually hit all 3 targets, haha!

Mord on October 26, 2011 at 9:48 AM

I bet not one person associated with the Tea Party has ever sold narcotics, raped someone or rioted at any Tea Party congregation event.

Oh, and the Tea Party leaves an area where they’ve congregated as neat and tidy as they found it, if not improved afterward. No mess, no trash lying about.

There is no comparison between the Occupy mess and the Tea Party protests. It seems the Left/Progressives NEED there to be to try to grant any credibility to the Occupy mess. Which they’ve failed at.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 9:49 AM

From the San Fran Chronicle:

Protesters threw turquoise and red paint at the riot police officers’ faces and helmets. Some led the crowd in chanting, “This is why we call you pigs.”

This is what happens when the man who OccupiesTheWhiteHouse is someone who palled around with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn and taught Alinksy’s Rules for Radicals. He’s an amiable mobster, showing up on Leno to yuk it up while his army of radicals provide the boots on the ground for “redistributive change”.

Buy Danish on October 26, 2011 at 9:50 AM

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