Poll shows Obama beating Romney, Cain and Perry in Ohio

posted at 12:45 pm on October 26, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Ohio voters aren’t exactly fans of President Obama, but, as of right now, they still would choose him for president over any of the GOP frontrunners. According to a new poll from Quinnipiac University, 51 percent of Ohioans disapprove of the way the president has done his job, compared to just 43 percent who approve. A plurality even go so far as to say he doesn’t deserve reelection.

Yet, the poll shows that Obama would best Mitt Romney by 45 percent to 41 percent, Herman Cain by 47 percent to 41 percent and Rick Perry by 47 to 36 percent.

Peter Brown, assistant director of the polling institute, said it best: “Ohio voters are not happy with the president’s performance and don’t think he deserves a second term. But elections are about choices. At this point none of the Republicans are able to take advantage of these presidential negatives. The next year will determine if the GOP is able to nominate a candidate who can do so.”

All along, I’ve viewed the president’s abysmal approval ratings with a grain of salt. As I’ve written before, it’s one thing to disapprove of the way a president performs; it’s another to vote against him. Consider again that some polls show even liberal voters disapprove of the president’s job performance — but those folks aren’t about to vote for the GOP candidate. At best, they might stay home out of disappointment or apathy.

The GOP candidate will have to turn out strong support in Ohio if he or she hopes to beat Obama there — and Ohio is no insignificant state. Remember:

Ohio’s 18 electoral votes are expected to be pivotal in the 2012 presidential election. George W. Bush sealed his 2004 re-election by narrowly winning the state over Sen. John Kerry. In 2008, Obama beat Sen. John McCain in the state by 5 points. But the GOP won big there in last year’s midterm elections, taking back the governor’s office and five House seats held by Democrats.

Right now, of the GOP candidates, Cain is the favorite among Ohio voters. The former Godfather’s pizza CEO has lined up 28 percent support there. Compare that with Mitt Romney’s 23 percent or Rick Perry’s poor 4 percent. (Ron Paul receives 8 and Newt Gingrich 7.) According to Brown, a zero-sum relationship exists between how well Cain and Perry do; Cain’s ascent has almost exactly corresponded with Perry’s descent in Ohio.

But if Cain is to beat Obama in Ohio and nationwide, he’ll have to up his name recognition. For that, viral ads — however bizarre — should help. As has often been pointed out about Cain, once voters know him, they like him.

Incidentally, lest we forget about other important races to occur in 2012, the poll also shows Democratic incumbent Sen. Sherrod Brown still in the lead in the Senate race there. That’s a seat the GOP should be able to take, if for no other reason than that Brown has been closely affiliated with the green energy loan program that has cost taxpayers so much and returned so little. The GOP has a strong candidate in Ohio Treasurer Josh Mandel. All he needs to win is a little more visibility.

Again and again, I’ll say it: Obamacare repeal is only possible with the support of the Senate — and repeal still remains essential to restoring the economy and federalism — and also, frankly, to devising a truly affordable and accessible health care system.


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Carter a Lock in OH

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mankai on October 26, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Jesus 2012……..well the American version of course.

PappyD61 on October 26, 2011 at 12:48 PM

“According to a new poll from Quinnipiac University…”

We should just call off the election…

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Seven Percent Solution on October 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM

“Ohio to America – Drop Dead!”

TugboatPhil on October 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Ohio loves Jesus!!!!

well I mean the American version of course!!!

OBAMA 2012!!

MICHELLE 2016!!

MICHELLE 2020!!

PappyD61 on October 26, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Hate to say it but the “hate the rich” meme is working to some degree with the help of the media of curse. Right now Yahoo news headline is the rich got richer over the last 30 years.Poor got poorer Yada,yada,yada. I seriously don’t think it will be that easy to beat Obama.

sandee on October 26, 2011 at 12:51 PM

At best, they might stay home out of disappointment or apathy.

That may be all it takes.

SlaveDog on October 26, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Alternate headline:

“2012 Presidential Election Winner – Obama”

withmanitisimpossible on October 26, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Incidentally, lest we forget about other important races to occur in 2012, the poll also shows Democratic incumbent Sen. Sherrod Brown still in the lead in the Senate race there.

Yeah, and here are the specifics from the poll:

In Ohio’s U.S. Senate race, Democratic incumbent Sen. Sherrod Brown remains solidly ahead of his two GOP challengers. Voters prefer Brown to Ohio Treasurer Josh Mandel 49 – 34 percent and Brown to State Sen. Kevin Coughlin 51 – 30 percent. In a primary test among GOP voters, Mandel defeats Coughlin 35 – 12 percent, with 48 percent undecided.

Give me a break. One of the Senators responsible for Porkulus and Obamacare(he was even flown in on a government plane to be the tiebreaking vote on the former) is beating his GOP challengers bt 15-21 points? I call BS on this poll.

And BTW, what is the sample breakdown? I saw the number of registered voters they interviewed, but what are the D-R-I figures?

Doughboy on October 26, 2011 at 12:52 PM

We should just call off the election…

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Seven Percent Solution on October 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Fine by me.

/Obama

Good Lt on October 26, 2011 at 12:52 PM

Ohio voters are not happy with the president’s performance and don’t think he deserves a second term. But elections are about choices. At this point none of the Republicans are able to take advantage of these presidential negatives.

What brilliant analysis./ In other words, the GOP primary is on, and the republicans are going after each other instead of the president right now.

Vashta.Nerada on October 26, 2011 at 12:54 PM

This goes a long way to attest to the stupidity of the majority of middle America who are too lazy to research anything, and base their decisions solely on soundbites “The One” dishes out.

stacman on October 26, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Well if the GOP frontrunner would stop attacking each other, they might do better.

Zaggs on October 26, 2011 at 12:56 PM

About a week ago PPP had Obama and Romney tied at 46% in OH and Brown up by 8 points.

Mark1971 on October 26, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Hey Ohio,

WAKE UP!!!!!

portlandon on October 26, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Backlash to Kasich on PEU reform?

Knucklehead on October 26, 2011 at 12:56 PM

“…and also, frankly, to devising a truly affordable and accessible health care system.”

How about just letting the market run its course and getting healthcare in the hands of consumers and not tied to employment unless the employer chooses to do so. Incentivize the individual.

DanMan on October 26, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Obama would best Mitt Romney by 45 percent to 41

Among registered voters. Not likely. Registered.

So it’s registered not likely, has a 2.4% margin of error, and — unless I’m missing something — doesn’t provide the partisan breakdown.

PPP, by the way a Democratic pollster, has Romney statistically tied with Obama in Ohio.

amerpundit on October 26, 2011 at 12:57 PM

This entire country is freaking sick and hopeless. The next great book: “The rise and fall of the USA”.

rplat on October 26, 2011 at 12:58 PM

Republicans and the public at large will lose, if republicans do not stop the in-fighting and concentrate on unseating democrats.

tx2654 on October 26, 2011 at 12:58 PM

They also capture their party bases equally, but Romney has a 43 – 36 percent margin among independent voters.

I don’t know what kind of crazy poll weighting they’re using, but if Romney wins independents by 7 points he wins Ohio.

Aha here’s the weighting

Republican 26%
Democrat 33
Independent 33

In no universe does Romney go I+7 in a D+7 election.

TallDave on October 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Time for Tea Party #OccupyOhio

davidk on October 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Backlash to Kasich on PEU reform?

Knucklehead on October 26, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Y’know, I just don’t understand this. Do Ohio voters crave state insolvency? They can’t all be union members.

a capella on October 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM

The only poll that counts is the one held with registered voters on November 3, 2012. A defininition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. Only a fool would vote for Obama and expect things to get better.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on October 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM

I call BS until we see the internals of the poll.

Likely voters, registered voters, or adults?
Dem/Rep/Ind split?
Age split?

etc…

crazy_legs on October 26, 2011 at 1:01 PM

If Obozo wins a second term we only have ourselves to blame. As in 2008 and 1996, we’ve produced the lamest selection of candidates who can’t even measure up to argueably the worst President in American history…

stacman on October 26, 2011 at 1:01 PM

The next great book: “The rise and fall of the USA”.

rplat on October 26, 2011 at 12:58 PM

More likely the next great book will be “The collapse of the conservative blogosphere after the Romney landslide in 2012″

closely followed by Obama’s upcoming book “I thought I could I thought I could – life after an electoral spanking”

Bradky on October 26, 2011 at 1:02 PM

This is a good reminder that 2012 is going to be tough.
Further, something is wrong in Ohio: The recently enacted public employee union law seems to be headed for repeal at the hands of the voters. I don’t understand how the Republicans let that happen.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Laughing… Sorry, but I live here and he will not win this state.

Everyone, and I mean everyone that I know who voted for him last time will not vote for him this time and that includes my african-american friends.

joshlbetts on October 26, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Truth be told though, the SB5 (?) law that unions hate is up for a referendum and it doesn’t look good that it won’t be repealed.

I’m thinking there are just enough union trash in Ohio who don’t like the reality of what it means to work together with the rest of Ohio to gain fiscal sanity, and so they have decided the numbers are lying and it’s time to go back to the good ol’ days.

Bishop on October 26, 2011 at 1:04 PM

TallDave on October 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM

But Dave, don’t you know Cain is going to be the nominee. Why are we using Romney as any benchmark. Take Cain’s number’s and subtract five for all the gaffes he’ll give before Nov 2012.

IR-MN on October 26, 2011 at 1:06 PM

. I don’t understand how the Republicans let that happen.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Arguing over garden gnomes, birth certificates and social issues?

Knucklehead on October 26, 2011 at 1:07 PM

This is laughable.

thebrokenrattle on October 26, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Well they used to think that Ohio State had a good football team, too.

darclon on October 26, 2011 at 1:10 PM

More proof that this poll is a load of BS. Obama won Ohio in 2008 by a 51-47 margin. He got 2,708,685 votes to McCain’s 2,501,855. That’s back when the Dems hadn’t worn out their welcome in the state and Obama was the blank slate candidate that people got suckered into supporting.

And Quinnipiac wants us to believe he’s improved his standing in the state since then? Riiiiiight.

Doughboy on October 26, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Laughing… Sorry, but I live here and he will not win this state.

Everyone, and I mean everyone that I know who voted for him last time will not vote for him this time and that includes my african-american friends.

joshlbetts on October 26, 2011 at 1:02 PM

I wish I could take more comfort in that. I have long lived in California (San Diego) and literally everyone I know in this predominently military town despises Obozo and the liberals overall, but even so we can never overcome the constipated liberals occupying LA, Hollywood, and San Francisco, and have served up the highest weighted electoral college state to the democrats everytime since Reagan’s second term.

stacman on October 26, 2011 at 1:10 PM

These polls are pointless until the nominee is set.

Completely pointless. It doesn’t matter if you ask people about certain matchups, until the final two are set you won’t get a true answer.

reaganaut on October 26, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Don’t believe it!

rjoco1 on October 26, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Republicans and the public at large will lose, if republicans do not stop the in-fighting and concentrate on unseating democrats.

tx2654 on October 26, 2011 at 12:58 PM

It’s called the GOP primary for a reason.

Vashta.Nerada on October 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Well that settles it,I guess there’s no use in going to the polls right QP? Isn’t that your goal with this poll?

Anyone but obama in 2012!!!!!!!

ohiobabe on October 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM

I propose that a prerequisite to voting is a standard IQ test. If you score under 80, you’re not allowed to vote. That should weed out a huge section of stupid people who vote democrat time after time.

stacman on October 26, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Consider again that some polls show even liberal voters disapprove of the president’s job performance — but those folks aren’t about to vote for the GOP candidate. At best, they might stay home out of disappointment or apathy.

I don’t think there are any polls that can reflect the unknown quantity of the “stay homes” in this next election cycle. Obama’s course of class warfare, (and the media’s complicit echo-chamber), will probably resonate, but will it motivate?

“The one thing that we absolutely know for sure is that if we don’t work even harder than we did in 2008, then we’re going to have a government that tells the American people, ‘you are on your own,’” Obama told a crowd of 200 donors over lunch at the W Hotel.

“If you get sick, you’re on your own. If you can’t afford college, you’re on your own. If you don’t like that some corporation is polluting your air or the air that your child breathes, then you’re on your own,” he said. “That’s not the America I believe in. It’s not the America you believe in.”…..Barack H. Obama 10/25/2011

It is completely clear how Obama intends to conduct his campaign—politics of fear and class envy. The man can not stand on any of his policies (passed by legislation or executive order) that has provided economic stability or improvement of national employment. In fact, both of these parameters have gotten only worse under his tenure, while adding trillions more in debt. In any business climate such as this, the CEO would be fired by the share-holders long before watching three years of decline.

The only tactics David Axelrod and Barack Obama have left is this divisive “class-less warfare” that may very well keep dejected voters from going to the polls. Like-wise, a united and motivated conservative movement should be the factor that tips the scales back to a center-right nation under Republican control.

In the words of Donald Trump—-President Obama, you’re fired!

Rovin on October 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Laughing… Sorry, but I live here and he will not win this state.

Everyone, and I mean everyone that I know who voted for him last time will not vote for him this time and that includes my african-american friends.

joshlbetts on October 26, 2011 at 1:02 PM

I too live in Ohio and I see no sign he has a chance here.

buckichick1 on October 26, 2011 at 1:25 PM

As a Buckeye, I just can’t see Obama that strong. The state swung radically to the Republicans in the last election. Mandel and Coughlin are now both relatively unknown while Sherrod Brown is a fixture in Ohio politics. He’s an upstate liberal and certainly can be beaten.

AcidReflux on October 26, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Doughboy on October 26, 2011 at 12:52 PM

joshlbetts on October 26, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Would those of you in a state of panic, please stop?

These two have the best handle on the ‘reality’ that is Ohio.

listens2glenn on October 26, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Very sad if true.

Tasha on October 26, 2011 at 1:29 PM

It’s early, but Ohio polling aside, we need to start thinking about down-level House and Senate races as being more important than that for the White House.

If the election is Romney v. Obama, regardless of who wins the Presidency, we’re in big trouble without solid conservatives in the Congress.

allanbourdius on October 26, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Incidentally, my wife is on a social science faculty at a major Ohio state school. As you might guess, they were overwhelmingly pro-Obama. Now much less so. I suspect that loss of enthusiasm has got to hurt him at the polls.

AcidReflux on October 26, 2011 at 1:31 PM

To be honest, if it comes down to Romneycare, the DREAM Act or TARP/sales-tax, I might be voting for Obama too. My preference would be a strong 3rd party ticket, though. My concern is that we don’t end up with a RINO House and Senate, (which it will be as most of the tea party freshmen were duds), combined with a progressive Republican at the helm. That would be the worse case scenario, second only to letting Democrats control all the levers, and we would be better off with gridlock, IMO.

I would much rather balance a RINO Congress with a conservative POTUS, but short of that I’ll be hoping for gridlock.

FloatingRock on October 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM

but those folks aren’t about to vote for the GOP candidate. At best, they might stay home out of disappointment or apathy.

The State rejected Gov. Strickland(Dem) and his hugh deficit in 2010 and elected Gov. Kasich, a Budget Master:-) Ohio has a surplus, and is a Red State once again. Obama? Don’t think so.

Tea Parties are very active and oppose B.O. totally. They should have polled the Unemployed workers, R’s, I’s & D’s. They know where the problem lies.

The SB5 issue has been confusing and the R’s have not countered the Dems misinformation and lies about it. Ohio has a lot of Prisons and of course are against SB5 being enacted. The Unions are telling their State employees that they’ll lose their jobs, pay will be lowered, pensions & health care costs will be unbearable, police & fireman affected and on and on.

Josh Mandel vs S. Brown. Again, the Tea Parties are against Brown. However, with the Union Vote, it may be a close race, since the SB5 issue is on the ballot also.

Hopefully, all of the voters that turned Ohio red will be able to win this!

bluefox on October 26, 2011 at 1:42 PM

I don’t understand how the Republicans let that happen.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 1:02 PM

The issue was handled poorly from the start. They rammed it through the same way the Democrats legislated in Washington during The One’s first two years. Remember how that felt?

Then they let the opponents frame the issue. They’re still running ads that should be fodder for the campaign. The unions are appealing to voters by saying that the law endangers the citizens by removing the ability of nurses, firefighters, whoever, to negotiate for the safety of the public.

Negotiate for public safety? Are you kidding? Why ads asking people why they would ever consider allowing a union to trade their well-being for an extra dollar per hour or another holiday is beyond me. But that’s exactly what repeal of the law will reinstate.

EconomicNeocon on October 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM

Josh Mandel vs S. Brown. Again, the Tea Parties are against Brown. However, with the Union Vote, it may be a close race, since the SB5 issue is on the ballot also.

The SB5 repeal is next month. Brown vs Mandel won’t take place until next year.

buckichick1 on October 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM

The 52% who voted for Obonehead in 2008 should have their citizenship revoked.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 26, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Take Cain’s number’s and subtract five for all the gaffes he’ll give before Nov 2012.

IR-MN on October 26, 2011 at 1:06 PM

Every single one of those gaffes was brought to you by the media–the media you say we don’t pay attention to. Well, start paying attention and start demanding context and full clips before buying into the ‘gaffes’.

And that includes the ‘gaffes’ pasted in articles here to fire everyone up.

MaggiePoo on October 26, 2011 at 1:58 PM

All polls are propaganda designed to lead the masses opinion rather than gauge them

Some pollsters are worst than others. Quinny is one of them.

Gfk is about the worse…actually started after Hilter came into power to convince the Germans that all other Germans support him completely. This insured no one would rise up against the Nazis’

All pollsters lie, even Rasmussen. They only produce polls against their partisan bent when the issue at hand is not at the forefront. This is how they develop the illusion of “independent and non-partisan”

Gallup , as they have done in the past, will produce polls where their man is “low” in approval , then as the election nears, ones that make it seem he is “gaining’
Only the few weeks before the election (and only poll that matters -the one in the election booth)do pollsters start to be honest with their results as a matter of survial…they don’t want to be the one thats far off the election results.
Pollsters claim this is the last minute deciders , as if people who are going to end up voting decide what they think right at the end.
Stop promoting polls you agree with, they are often only produced to get you to accept their later polls

Instead , demand demographics and methods and ALL RAW DATA , including the names of the people physically conducting the polls.
Only then can their data be verified with any degree of certainty

LeeSeneca on October 26, 2011 at 1:59 PM

buckichick1 on October 26, 2011 at 1:25 PM

I think the poll is just an attempt to counter the narrative the Obama is a lame duck.

Family, friends and co-workers have done a complete 180 on Obama. It’s going to be a landslide.

joshlbetts on October 26, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Is Ken Blackwell a huge mover and shaker in Ohio?

gophergirl on October 26, 2011 at 2:01 PM

The issue was handled poorly from the start. They rammed it through the same way the Democrats legislated in Washington during The One’s first two years. Remember how that felt?

Then they let the opponents frame the issue. They’re still running ads that should be fodder for the campaign. The unions are appealing to voters by saying that the law endangers the citizens by removing the ability of nurses, firefighters, whoever, to negotiate for the safety of the public.

Negotiate for public safety? Are you kidding? Why ads asking people why they would ever consider allowing a union to trade their well-being for an extra dollar per hour or another holiday is beyond me. But that’s exactly what repeal of the law will reinstate.

EconomicNeocon on October 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM

The Wisconsin Republicans got significant support from around the country. Sites like Legal Insurrection got involved and helped generate cash for the cause. This just seems like a horrible failure when they had an example of how to do this successfully right in front of them.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 2:04 PM

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 2:04 PM

It has been a disaster. SB5 will get repealed.

joshlbetts on October 26, 2011 at 2:08 PM

4% For Birther BlagoPerrych
96% For Not Birther BlagoPerrych

Falz on October 26, 2011 at 2:10 PM

All polls are propaganda designed to lead the masses opinion rather than gauge them

Some pollsters are worst than others. Quinny is one of them.

Gfk is about the worse…actually started after Hilter came into power to convince the Germans that all other Germans support him completely. This insured no one would rise up against the Nazis’

All pollsters lie, even Rasmussen. They only produce polls against their partisan bent when the issue at hand is not at the forefront. This is how they develop the illusion of “independent and non-partisan”

Gallup , as they have done in the past, will produce polls where their man is “low” in approval , then as the election nears, ones that make it seem he is “gaining’
Only the few weeks before the election (and only poll that matters -the one in the election booth)do pollsters start to be honest with their results as a matter of survial…they don’t want to be the one thats far off the election results.
Pollsters claim this is the last minute deciders , as if people who are going to end up voting decide what they think right at the end.
Stop promoting polls you agree with, they are often only produced to get you to accept their later polls

Instead , demand demographics and methods and ALL RAW DATA , including the names of the people physically conducting the polls.
Only then can their data be verified with any degree of certainty

LeeSeneca on October 26, 2011 at 1:59 PM

THIS.

fossten on October 26, 2011 at 2:13 PM

I don’t know what kind of crazy poll weighting they’re using, but if Romney wins independents by 7 points he wins Ohio.

Aha here’s the weighting

Republican 26%
Democrat 33
Independent 33

In no universe does Romney go I+7 in a D+7 election.

TallDave on October 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM

In no 2011 universe is Ohio D+7 when in 2010 Ohio pretty much swept the Democrats out of office at all levels.

angryed on October 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM

Good gawd, how depressing. Plus there’s the voter fraud to overcome.

petefrt on October 26, 2011 at 2:20 PM

It has been a disaster. SB5 will get repealed.

joshlbetts on October 26, 2011 at 2:08 PM

I live in Cincinnati. I’ve seen one good TV ad favoring SB 5, but the sheer volume of TV ads oppose SB 5. On the other hand, I’ve received numerous mailer favoring SB 5 that are very good.

From my point of view, I like Kasich a lot, but he and the GOP meatheads in Columbus have bungled this from the start. It’s too bad Kasich didn’t invite Gov. Walker to Ohio as a show of support to say that they both are trying to get control over the unions.

The unions seem energized, but I get the impression that they’ve tried to avoid the lunacy of Madison. Meanwhile, conservatives are firm but not enthusiastic, while independents might be a little fatigued.

One thing, which is unrelated, that has hurt the effort is that the GOP largely overreached in redistricting the state to account for the loss of two districts. I’m worried that just for general purposes, some voters will oppose SB 5 to punish the GOP.

Still, on the other hand, regarding PEUs specifically, I will say that during the past nine months, The Cincinnati Enquirer has run a series of articles about cop and firefighter pay, especially at the upper rung, and it left a very bad taste in the mouths of many. Some of the dollars figures for some who are retiring were rather eye-opening. At the same time, munipalities don’t have the dough to pay them. Oh yeah, there was a high-ranking PEU official on the City of Cincinnati payroll getting paid a city salary while she essentially performed only union duties. I doubt that helps the PEU effort.

We’ll see how this goes. I’m hoping that a silent majority will show up at the polls to punch the PEUs in the gut. But the GOP certainly could have handled this better.

BuckeyeSam on October 26, 2011 at 2:34 PM

Oh, crap, Obama’s up four points on the eventual nominee 13 months out? WHATEVER SHALL WE DO?

Red Cloud on October 26, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Michelle Malkin exposes the lies of the ‘repeal’ SB5 groups in her column today:
Battleground: Ohio; Update: Romney waffles

That the Unions will only lie as their defense, explanation and support for this repeal drive should show what is really behind their agenda – Unfettered Union Contract Negotiations. The Republicans did not shove it through – there were the state law required days of debate, where anyone could contact their State representative to vote for or against it. Elections have consequences.

Repeal of SB5 is not a lock in OH, neither is the re-election of Brown nor is OH going to Obama – polls tell nothing more than what the pollster wants to be told – look carefully – the only candidate close to Obama is Romney (Obamalite). Talk about an agenda.

jackal40 on October 26, 2011 at 2:51 PM

In no 2011 universe is Ohio D+7 when in 2010 Ohio pretty much swept the Democrats out of office at all levels.

angryed on October 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM

Exactly, this poll has Obama losing by ~10 when you adjust the partisan weighting to reflect reality.

TallDave on October 26, 2011 at 3:23 PM

Exactly, this poll has Obama losing by ~10 when you adjust the partisan weighting to reflect reality.

TallDave on October 26, 2011 at 3:23 PM

Indeed, this swing state is swinging to the right. I spend a lot of time in Ohio and this poll does not reflect reality.

HellCat on October 26, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Y’know, I just don’t understand this. Do Ohio voters crave state insolvency? They can’t all be union members.

a capella on October 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Nearly every paper here is strongly liberal, and they’re all portraying SB5 as an attack on teachers. The papers aren’t reporting on the budget issues, and most people don’t care.

I know that since most of my relatives are teachers, and Republicans… and still planning to fight SB5!

dominigan on October 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM

The only poll that counts is the one held with registered voters on November 3, 2012.

Maybe so, but the polls between now and then give a good indication of how that final poll is likely to turn out.

A defininition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. Only a fool would vote for Obama and expect things to get better.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft

There are plenty of fools in this country. Never forget that. The 2012 election will not be a cake walk, and considering the cast of characters we have to choose from, we could very well lose. Anyone believing otherwise is delusional.

xblade on October 26, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Couldn’t think of anything to post?

These state polls this far ahead of their primary, much less the general election, are beyond worthless. Not only do they NOT instruct in any meaningful way, they can easily be used to mislead voters and campaigns.

But as long as PPP and Quinnipiac keep getting all this free publicity from running these polls, they will flood the commons with them.

What good does it do for us to complain about media’s continual focus on the horse race aspects of the campaign instead of the substantive issues when we allow ourselves to be elated or saddened or inspired or amused by every stupid and meaningless poll that is released?

Adjoran on October 26, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Alternate headline: Ohioans Retarded

Beo on October 26, 2011 at 4:41 PM

To all those who are continually lamenting about the quality of the Republican field that we have to choose from, everyone of the Republicans in the field is exponentially better than Barack Hussein Obama (aka Harrison J. Bounel). And, though you probably are not inferring it, if the Republican field is so lame, then are you saying the ’08 Democrat field of Clinton, Dodd, Edwards and Obama is the best this country can hope for? YOU go into battle and/or play the game with the team you have. Period. If your candidate is not in the field, that was the candidate’s decision. Quit the moaning and groaning and when we, the primary voters select the person to go to battle with the Dems, LET’S RUMBLE!!

devolvingtowardsidiocracy on October 26, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Only Newt can save us now.

Punchenko on October 26, 2011 at 6:28 PM

Good. If the people of America today are this stupid they deserve the destruction Obama will bring with his 2nd term.

Crusty on October 26, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Obamacare repeal is only possible with the support of the Senate — and repeal still remains essential to restoring the economy and federalism — and also, frankly, to devising a truly affordable and accessible health care system.

What exactly is that last part? The only “devising” that needs to be done is no devising at all. The truly affordable healthcare system is the one that grows within a free market system unfettered by government and bureaucratic obstacles. So “devising” here can only mean getting gov’t out of it, right Tina?!!

beselfish on October 26, 2011 at 9:33 PM

Peter Brown, assistant director of the polling institute, said it best: ”Ohio voters are not happy with the president’s performance and don’t think he deserves a second term. But elections are about choices. At this point none of the Republicans are able to take advantage of these presidential negatives.

Once again, early polls – particularly pre-primary polls – are a referendum on the incumbent. The challenger’s numbers are irrelevant.

Nobody except political junkies knows Cain, Romney, or Perry from Adam. The numbers to look at are Obama’s numbers. Those numbers (45-47) remain consistent in every poll, and approach a ceiling. That means the most Obama can expect running against Cain or Perry is 49 or 50 percent. And that’s today.

HitNRun on October 26, 2011 at 11:27 PM

darclon on October 26, 2011 at 1:10 PM

That was before the whole dustup about Tressel happened. They ended up having to find a replacement on short notice. For what I see of it, all of these scandals just seem like off-the-field vengeance for Tressel’s on-the-field record.

sethstorm on October 27, 2011 at 10:20 AM