Perry: Okay, enough with the Birther crap now

posted at 5:28 pm on October 25, 2011 by Allahpundit

Via Bryan Preston, a smooth, thoroughly dismissive answer to the media’s latest attempt to bait him. No hedging this time with agnosticism about whether O’s birth certificate is real or how it’s “a good issue to keep alive,” just scorn for the question on a day that’s supposed to be devoted to economics. How come he didn’t say this verbatim to Parade two days ago or to John Harwood this morning? He’s spent 10 years perfecting his retail political skills as governor, yet he face-planted with that “heartless” crack about in-state tuition last month and he upstaged his own jobs plan today. I don’t get it. It makes Romney’s robotic affect seem virtuous by comparison. Mitt won’t charm you, but at least you don’t have to worry about him lapsing into Trump talking points hours before delivering a major speech.

Speaking of candidates not living up to their hype, I want to link this item about Huntsman but can’t justify devoting an entire post to a guy who’s polling an asterisk. So let me tuck it in here. Remember, this is a guy who’s been an ambassador, prized for his diplomatic skills, to not one but two Asian countries:

However, it was a joke Huntsman made about China, the country where he served as ambassador for two years, that caused the crowd to groan.

When Colbert played a sound effect of a stereotypical Chinese riff, Huntsman joked, “When’s the delivery food coming?” After a few seconds of awkward silence, Colbert replied, “Did that go over well in Beijing?” This portion of the interview was cut for time from the broadcast.

“There was a gasp,” audience member Dana Cole told ABC News. “A little tasteless. No one really saw it coming. He got ahead of himself.”

“I think he was just really nervous honestly,” said Zach Zirlin, who was also in the crowd. “He was just trying to humanize himself a little bit … I think he brings a very fresh face to the Republican Party. All the past candidates were not easy to relate to and he seems more human than the rest.”

So there you go. Perry’s winking at Birthers, Cain can barely get through an answer on abortion, Huntsman’s making Chinese-takeout jokes, and Romney is … Romney. Exit question: Second look at Gary Johnson?

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We do — holding our candidates to a higher standard is something we must never falter on

On the important stuff.
Obama’s birth certificate is not important.

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 6:22 PM

It appears that Perry didn’t learn from the mistakes that Palin made and is going to make them for himself. Attacking the media, saying stupid crap, and thinking that the echo chamber he is in is representative of the voters. Just like when he let that bigoted pastor get away with religious bigotry. He and the pastor are so accustomed to hearing the bigotry about Mormons, they didn’t see anything wrong with saying it out loud.

csdeven on October 25, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Perry did well with getting with Forbes and crafting this plan..:)

Dire Straits on October 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM

I see it happening the other way around….Forbes wanted his plan to be relevant again and convinced Perry to support it. Perry didn’t land the Forbes endorsement, Forbes landed the Perry endorsement.

csdeven on October 25, 2011 at 6:25 PM

PS..Allahpundit are you listening?..:)

Dire Straits on October 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM

heh

Dire Straits on October 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM

thank you sir

cmsinaz on October 25, 2011 at 6:27 PM

who is going to carry the birther torch now? we are all so betrayed!

gatorboy on October 25, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Exit question: Second look at Gary Johnson?

Seriously?

JohnGalt23 on October 25, 2011 at 6:27 PM

If you haven’t seen it, the sample tax return for Perry’s plan is very, very cool. (PDF)

capitalist piglet on October 25, 2011 at 6:10 PM

Now show the tax form all of us will have to fill out with our accountant before we decide if the 20% rate is best for us. Is there a deduction in Perry’s 20% plan for the expenses I incur because I need an accountant to make sure the 20% is a good deal for me?

csdeven on October 25, 2011 at 6:29 PM

On the important stuff.

Obama’s birth certificate is not important.

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 6:22 PM


Agreed.

The problem was that he entertained the whole birther nonsense, playing right into the MSM’s hands. Had he given the answer from this interview in the first place, we’d be having a totally different (more flattering) discussion.

Him slightly, faintly, minutely entertaining this issue was an error on his part. Thankfully he’s learned and moved on.

Demosthenes on October 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM

We all know first time candidates make mistakes but he’s really showing that he’s a rookie.

SteveMG on October 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM

There’s a reason this party likes to give the nomination to the next in line:

Usually, they’ve been through the drill before. Rookies, on the other hand, make rookie mistakes.

And this is the big game we’re talking about…

JohnGalt23 on October 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM

I don’t get it.

It’s easy – Perry’s repeatedly been given the benefit of the doubt by various conservo-blogosphere arms, while every gaffe of Cain’s is clearly b/c “he’s not ready” etc. Not much to get, really.

elcapt on October 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Seriously?

JohnGalt23 on October 25, 2011 at 6:27 PM

LoL!..:)

PS..Does Johnson have a blimp?!?..:)

Dire Straits on October 25, 2011 at 6:32 PM

I’m going out on a limb and say the interview with BOR will be QOTD..:)

PS..Allahpundit are you listening?..:)

Dire Straits on October 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM

I predict that according to some, Perry could cr@p all over himself on BOR and he would have done it on purpose to distract the media. Or something.

csdeven on October 25, 2011 at 6:32 PM

The problem was that he entertained the whole birther nonsense, playing right into the MSM’s hands. Had he given the answer from this interview in the first place, we’d be having a totally different (more flattering) discussion.

Him slightly, faintly, minutely entertaining this issue was an error on his part. Thankfully he’s learned and moved on.

First of all, there’s no reason we have to have this discussion just because people like John Harwood want us to.

Secondly, his answer isn’t going to be enough to appease the Obama Must Be Defended press because they actually want Republican leaders to be held responsible for not telling birthers (however they define it) they aren’t welcome in the party. They actually want Republicans to defend Obama. And to what end? So Obama won’t be offended? So he doesn’t have to have any unpleasantness about him?

So what if people still want to ask questions about Obama? People still feel free to say Bush stole the 2000 election. Isn’t that what all these popular vote count state initiatives are all about?

What makes Obama so special that nobody is supposed to entertain weird theories about him, and anybody who does must be reprimanded by Official Republican Leaders?

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Here’s what candidates should say:

“I don’t think Obama cares if people talk about his birth certificate. He has copies of it on coffee mugs for sale on his website. I’ve never seen anybody so proud of his own birth certificate, but I understand it. Producing that thing was the single most successful accomplishment of his administration”

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 6:50 PM

What makes Obama so special that nobody is supposed to entertain weird theories about him, and anybody who does must be reprimanded by Official Republican Leaders?

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Excellent questions. For example, where is the erudite analysis of Obama’s reference to his “muslim religion”, until corrected by George Stephanopoulos, in light of Obama’s actions that seem to lead to increased governmental power of militant islamists?

GaltBlvnAtty on October 25, 2011 at 6:55 PM

What makes Obama so special that nobody is supposed to entertain weird theories…

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 6:40 PM


The media would love nothing more than to paint one of our nominees as a birther — they pray for this, they hope for this — and what better way than for one of our guys to entertain that nonsense? They want distractions, we don’t. Conservatives want to go after Obama, not defend him.

The anger/disappointment today wasn’t in defense of Obama, it was at Perry for answering the MSM’s prayers.

Fast & Furious, Obamacare, Solyndra, all his failed economic schemes, those are the things we should be attacking him on… the important things. The media wants to concentrate on the trivial, so let’s not give them the excuses they crave.

Demosthenes on October 25, 2011 at 6:56 PM

AP, speaking of ‘edited out’:

JOHN HARWOOD: But it sounds like you really do have some doubt about it.
RICK PERRY: Well, look, I haven’t– I haven’t seen his– I haven’t seen his grades. My grades ended up on the front page of the newspaper. So, let’s– you know, if we’re going to show stuff, let’s show stuff. So. But, look, that’s all a distraction. I mean, I get it. I’m– I’m really not worried about the President’s birth certificate. It’s fun to– to poke and add him a little bit and say hey, how about– let’s see your grades and your birth certificate.
JOHN HARWOOD: Well so–
RICK PERRY: But here’s what’s really serious. Is we got people sitting around watching this interview while the president has killed 2 and a half million jobs. That’s serious. And that’s what we got to better get right.

Seems like Perry was trying to redirect the stupid question back where it belongs after all.

Hiya Ciska on October 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM

This is what each and every one of them SHOULD be doing – throwing the idiot questions back on the media and bringing up the cr*ptacular record of Obama. As much as possible.

kim roy on October 25, 2011 at 6:58 PM

“I don’t think Obama cares if people talk about his birth certificate. He has copies of it on coffee mugs for sale on his website. I’ve never seen anybody so proud of his own birth certificate, but I understand it. Producing that thing was the single most successful accomplishment of his administration”

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 6:50 PM


That would be a great answer the next time (and you know they will) bring up his birth certificate. Mock him and his obsession with his own birth certificate.

Demosthenes on October 25, 2011 at 7:01 PM

The anger/disappointment today wasn’t in defense of Obama, it was at Perry for answering the MSM’s prayers.

Caring about it feeds the distractions.

I do not believe for one second the majority of voters care if Perry is a birther or if he loves Obama’s birth certificate. They don’t care how he answers because it is not important to them.
But if we can feed the media’s obsession with making Republicans responsible for Obama’s feelings and/or every wacky thought by a Republican voter, we give them incentive to keep trying to come up with new ways to tarnish our candidates.

It’s a method they use to make criticizing Obama off limits. Think of Gifford’s shooting, or the way they tried to make Palin responsible for someone who might have yelled “terrorist” at a rally, or the way tying Obama to the corrupt heads of Fannie/Freddie was “racist”.

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 7:08 PM

He used it to get the media’s attention.

Dr Evil on October 25, 2011 at 5:45 PM

I could buy that if he weren’t making idiotic statements on a regular basis. Perry doesn’t have the luxury of trying to manipulate the media with dumb comments.

csdeven on October 25, 2011 at 6:16 PM

It worked for Donald Trump, and Perry noticed they all noticed. Perry was poking fun….and now Cain isn’t the only candidate being saturated in the news cycle. Manipulating the MSM is really very simple. The MSM is attracted to anything that might be considered the least bit controversial. They use it to spin their agenda, and make hay out of the most questionable sound bites, (It’s like a Page 6 headline for television) but mostly it’s used for “buzz” to gin up ratings.

Dr Evil on October 25, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Mock him and his obsession with his own birth certificate.

Demosthenes

Yes!

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 7:10 PM

“Perry: Okay, enough with the Birther crap now”

“…let’s be movin’ on to my new campaign theme, 9-11 Truth!”

whatcat on October 25, 2011 at 7:14 PM

csdeven on October 25, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Oh shut up! Your posts are useless. Granted so is this one but you are a constant, annoyance that just needs to go away.

Vince on October 25, 2011 at 7:17 PM

But if we can feed the media’s obsession with making Republicans responsible for Obama’s feelings and/or every wacky thought by a Republican voter, we give them incentive to keep trying to come up with new ways to tarnish our candidates.

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 7:08 PM


That’s why our candidates can’t entertain this birther stuff — it’s a no-win situation for whoever does it. The best they can do is what you suggested, or what Perry did in the clip above. Once they start dabbling in this sort of thing, the media will be all over it… night and day.

unfortunately, you do have pundits and others who will go on TV and defend Obama’s sensitive feelings. However, I believe we have to take our candidates to task when they feed the beast.

Demosthenes on October 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM

I would say that Perry does not have the courage of his convictions but he seems to have no convictions. Well, at least he won’t embarrasses the hotair establishment any more on this inconsequential constitutional matter.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 25, 2011 at 7:25 PM

I’d bet cash money that 90% of our commenters could have answered those questions better than he did, and better than Perry did with the Birther question. We deserve better from our candidates.

Allahpundit on October 25, 2011 at 5:53 PM

I’m inclined to agree with you, BUT the Parade question was so far out in left field that it has not been a topic for quite some time. Why did the interviewer even bring it up? Was it to create a new “narrative” that the media hounds could chase after and gnaw to death in order to distract from more critical issues?

Why aren’t these reporters as tenacious about Gunwalker or the waste of tax dollars on crony-capitalist green energy boondoggles? Or are they still interested in what has “enchanted” Obama so far in his presidency.

Heh, if the Republican candidates could respond more quickly to these silly-season questions, they should ask the reporter if he is interested in what has “enchanted” them so far in the campaigning.

onlineanalyst on October 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM

If you haven’t seen it, the sample tax return for Perry’s plan is very, very cool. (PDF)

capitalist piglet on October 25, 2011 at 6:10 PM

Mark Levin is very supportive of it! From what Mark said regarding the 999 plan, was he could only support it if the 16th Amendment was repealed FIRST.

bluefox on October 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Perry’s winking at Birthers

Does he wink at deniers too? How about clothers?

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 25, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Must be a slow day to be on the subject of Perry yet again who is now running behind both Gingrich and Paul in the polls. Although he still is ahead of Hunstman.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 25, 2011 at 7:30 PM

We deserve better from our candidates.

Allahpundit on October 25, 2011 at 5:53 PM

No we don’t.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 25, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Now show the tax form all of us will have to fill out with our accountant before we decide if the 20% rate is best for us. Is there a deduction in Perry’s 20% plan for the expenses I incur because I need an accountant to make sure the 20% is a good deal for me?

csdeven on October 25, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Gee whiz, poor you. You’d have an option to consider.

Honest to goodness, I can’t believe people are complaining about that aspect of it. (Except that this is HotAir, so…yes I can.)

capitalist piglet on October 25, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Maybe we can get Perry one of these and settle this issue once and for all.

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/

milwife88 on October 25, 2011 at 7:45 PM

It appears that Perry didn’t learn from the mistakes that Palin made and is going to make them for himself. Attacking the media, saying stupid crap, and thinking that the echo chamber he is in is representative of the voters.

csdeven on October 25, 2011 at 6:22 PM

I am not na Perry fan, but if you believe standing up to the media is a mistake you are even dumber than I imagined (if that’s humanly possible).

It’s interesting to see that even though Palin isn’t running she’s still living rent free 24/7 in your pea brain.

bw222 on October 25, 2011 at 7:46 PM

That’s why our candidates can’t entertain this birther stuff —

That’s where we disagree.
It will just be on to the next thing.
Think about it– there is absolutely no reason to even be asking about the birth certificate. They are fishing for stuff. They will find something. We can’t be perfect enough, but they want to keep pushing us to try.

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Mark Levin is very supportive of it! From what Mark said regarding the 999 plan, was he could only support it if the 16th Amendment was repealed FIRST.

bluefox on October 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Heard a bit of that on Sirius in my car – sounded like he loves it. Very cool. Rush loves it too.

capitalist piglet on October 25, 2011 at 7:52 PM

They are fishing for stuff.

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 7:47 PM


Definitely.

And if fishing for answers fails, they can always fall back on their army of Prada-loafered DC lawyers to descend upon Wasilla… I mean, Georgia or Texas.

Demosthenes on October 25, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Perry is going to be on O’Reilly at 7:00 CST tonight.

TxAnn56 on October 25, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Perry was terrific on O’Reilly. Really good.

capitalist piglet on October 25, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Perry was terrific on O’Reilly. Really good.

capitalist piglet on October 25, 2011 at 8:24 PM

I’ll have to watch the replay. Good to hear.

gophergirl on October 25, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Perry was terrific on O’Reilly. Really good.

capitalist piglet on October 25, 2011 at 8:24 PM

I agree..Perry did well..:)

Dire Straits on October 25, 2011 at 8:38 PM

Wow, I can’t believe Krauthammer was so positive about the interview. Maybe he doesn’t like Romney either. lol

kg598301 on October 25, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Perry was great on O’Reilly. O’Reilly seemed to really like Perry’s tax plan, and did a good job outlining it clearly with bullet points in his show. O’Reilly even said that this plan should help Perry rise in the polls again. I was glad Bill gave him a chance to address immigration again.

I LOVED the end where Perry went after Mitt. Woohoo! Somebody has to and I’m glad somebody is.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on October 25, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Good to know…will watch the replay

cmsinaz on October 25, 2011 at 8:51 PM

So I assume that the American Supreme Court consensus is to continue to refuse to settle the debate over the “natural-born citzen” clause,

To let 0bama run in ’12, although is still valid and serious doubt whether he is qualified to run – or was qualified to run in ’08, for that matter – and then to hang Bobby Jindal or Marco Rubio by the balls in ’16.

I get it.

But if they block Jindal because his parents were from India, then I expect to see every single piece of legislation 0bama signed or executive order he decreed for 8 years, rendered null and void in return.

It’s not even about the birth certificate, though with the many problems with the .pdf he released (that’s all he released, folks, a .pdf) it’s obvious there’s still something wrong with it -

It’s about what the heck natural-born citizen means.

That puts the birth-certificate issue to shame.

And Rubio’s coming along, too.

So – with the about of immigration in the last 30 years, do we, as a country, correct this bleeding wound of an isssue now, before 0bama runs again? Or do we dissolve into civil war when Jindal is banned from running but everything 0bama did is allowed to stand.

Just think about that for a bit.

Back to your regular programming….

cane_loader on October 25, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Aslans Girl on October 25, 2011 at 8:50 PM

When your at 6 percent nationally yeah, you had better start swinging.

nswider on October 25, 2011 at 8:57 PM

What was with Perry’s shirt on Ted Baxter tonight? It looked too big, all crumpled up, practically up to his ears like he was wearing his grandpa’s suit. It bugged me! Here’s a clip.

Wow, I can’t believe Krauthammer was so positive about the interview. Maybe he doesn’t like Romney either. lol

kg598301 on October 25, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Shocked me, too. Is he, like Rush, starting to see some handwriting on the wall regarding Romney’s “inevitability”?

Rational Thought on October 25, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Rational Thought on October 25, 2011 at 9:05 PM

I was watching in HD on my TV and thought his shirt looked fine, lol.

Glad you posted that particular clip, it was the highlight :)

Aslans Girl on October 25, 2011 at 9:09 PM

What was with Perry’s shirt on Ted Baxter tonight? It looked too big, all crumpled up, practically up to his ears like he was wearing his grandpa’s suit. It bugged me

I didn’t notice that at all.

capitalist piglet on October 25, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Want to see larger investments than this in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia? Vote for Rick Perry! Most of what we use today is made not with steel or wood, but natural gas and natural gas liquids. Perry’s executive orders will provide what industry needs to bring back manufacturing to the U.S.

http://www.wafb.com/story/15874920/basf-dedicates-methylamines-plant-in-louisiana

Why do you think that smart Bobby Jindal is “ALL IN” with loaned staff and rolodex and all with Perry?

BTW, these permanent jobs are typically around $100K annually, blue collar ones, that is.

Kermit on October 25, 2011 at 9:21 PM

OT – Justice Dept Proposal about hiding / lying about the existence of records under propsed FOIA rule change.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/24/justice-dept-proposes-lying-hiding-existence-of-records-under-new-foia-rule/#ixzz1bp7QkWHy

rayra on October 25, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Did anyone see Bachmann on Hannity? What nonsense!!

bluefox on October 25, 2011 at 9:30 PM

Hearing about it on Twitter, bluefox. Oy.

capitalist piglet on October 25, 2011 at 9:31 PM

bluefox on October 25, 2011 at 9:30 PM

I think we can all have a moment of collective agreement on this. Bachmann is just awful. Its painful to listen to her now.

nswider on October 25, 2011 at 9:33 PM

What was with Perry’s shirt on Ted Baxter tonight? It looked too big, all crumpled up, practically up to his ears like he was wearing his grandpa’s suit. It bugged me! Here’s a clip.

Rational Thought on October 25, 2011 at 9:05 PM

That shirt collar thing has always bugged me too. He wears his collars way up on his neck and it looks odd. His tie was orange which is heresy to any A&M alumni. Could be he’s trying to corner the Longhorn vote.

TxAnn56 on October 25, 2011 at 9:34 PM

I LOVED the end where Perry went after Mitt. Woohoo! Somebody has to and I’m glad somebody is.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on October 25, 2011 at 8:50 PM

That was good and I think O’Reilly was fair too in his questioning.
Perry had a better explanation on the In-State Tuition issue too.

Was surprised with Krauthammer’s response of Perry’s interview with Bill.

Aslan, did you see Bachmann’s nonsense? I am so aggravated at her pandering and promoting herself, I could spit:-) I’m ready to email her my opinion of her stupidity!!

bluefox on October 25, 2011 at 9:36 PM

TxAnn56 on October 25, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Well, he already has a lock on the Aggie vote (except for me and John Sharp, and I don’t think he is worried about either of us). Smart politics to offer an olive branch to the Tea sippers.

cozmo on October 25, 2011 at 9:38 PM

bluefox on October 25, 2011 at 9:36 PM

What, “just go to michellebachmann.com” isnt the answer for everything? lol.

nswider on October 25, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Hearing about it on Twitter, bluefox. Oy.

capitalist piglet on October 25, 2011 at 9:31 PM

I don’t use Twitter, but glad to hear others have noticed it. She’s been hanging around Romney too long, starting to sound like him. Said she’s had an economic plan for “months”. What a fake! She would steal ideas and info from Palin too, so this is nothing new.

bluefox on October 25, 2011 at 9:40 PM

I think we can all have a moment of collective agreement on this. Bachmann is just awful. Its painful to listen to her now.

nswider on October 25, 2011 at 9:33 PM

She has gotten worse as time goes by. I believe her N.H. staffers, by the way. She can forget about N.H. As they said, they live there and word of mouth is a killer.

bluefox on October 25, 2011 at 9:49 PM

On the important stuff.
Obama’s birth certificate is not important.

MayBee on October 25, 2011 at 6:22 PM

“not important”? To whom? People like you who want to be the Personal Preference police? Is the “science” settled on 0bamessiah’s BC like it is with AGW?

Do you speak for everyone? Do you want to? Do you want to say you don’t want to speak for everyone, except for “special” cases like this, and then you’ll do say you’re doing it under the guise of, ‘I know better than you here, trust me on this’?

People like you sound as ridiculous and cowardly as people like Hillary Clinton do when they say such things as, “How dare you question my patriotism!!!” Why not ask such questions – what are people like you so afraid of that it drives you to try to divert people away from asking uncomfortable questions?

NEVER trust people who don’t like it when sincere people ask difficult questions. Anyone who engages in that kind of controlling, fear-driven behavior isn’t doing it for selfless, benevolent reasons, and they don’t have your back, that’s for sure…

Perry’s laughably predictable retreat on this issue proves once again that he is a easily-frightened panderer who can be manipulated by fear of ridicule i.e. he’s a poor leader.

Bizarro No. 1 on October 25, 2011 at 9:50 PM

bluefox on October 25, 2011 at 9:36 PM

I missed both Krauthammer and Bachmann because right after Perry I stopped watching (I had dinner to get to). Sorry I missed the Hammer, but it sounds like I should be happy I missed Bachmann, lol! I will try to catch the repeat for Dr. K later. Happy to hear he liked the interview. Thanks for the info.

Aslans Girl on October 25, 2011 at 9:51 PM

bluefox on October 25, 2011 at 9:36 PM
What, “just go to michellebachmann.com” isnt the answer for everything? lol.

nswider on October 25, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Sure, that way you can receive all of the email donation requests from her. Shameless in my opinion. She’s a great talker, but that is all. Hasn’t done anything in the House except vote, LOL Well, I need to modify that. Since July 1, she’s missed 58% of the votes and that was a couple of weeks ago. Guess running for President is more important than taking care of the People’s business.

bluefox on October 25, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Just saw the Mitt clip – woo hoo that was a good line.

gophergirl on October 25, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Along with many impressive governors today denouncing Perry’s birtherism “joke” David Freddeso, who is an exceptional thinker, is spot on here:

Perry fatally beclowns himself

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/perry-fatally-beclowns-himself

by David Freddeso

Excerpt:

When I originally promoted The Case Against Barack Obama in 2008, I was advised never to be afraid about calling crazy “crazy” to its face. I have to say, when you’re on a call-in radio show talking about Obama, and a caller starts spouting nonsense about how Obama is a Musllim from Kenya, it’s quite tempting to pander to the crowd. But if you do, you lose all of your credibility. So I promised from the start never to beat around the bush with birthers.

I was just selling a book. Rick Perry is running to lead the free world. For someone in his position to keep this alive is simply disgraceful. I think it is even more serious than President Obama’s pandering to the Occupy protestors. I’m sure there will be some parsing of Perry’s words, but I don’t see at the moment how this isn’t disqualifying for the presidency.

sheryl on October 25, 2011 at 10:01 PM

I was just selling a book. Rick Perry is running to lead the free world. For someone in his position to keep this alive is simply disgraceful. I think it is even more serious than President Obama’s pandering to the Occupy protestors.

Like Mitt Romney in New Hampshire saying “the one percent I don’t worry about, it’s the ninety-nine percent”……you mean like that pandering to the Occupy protestors?

Marcus on October 25, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Like Mitt Romney in New Hampshire saying “the one percent I don’t worry about, it’s the ninety-nine percent”……you mean like that pandering to the Occupy protestors?

Marcus on October 25, 2011 at 10:05 PM

You know it’s a good Perry day when sheryl chimes in LOL!

gophergirl on October 25, 2011 at 10:13 PM

Here’s Levin calling Perry’s plan “one hell of a proposal” for anyone who’d like to hear it:

http://www.therightscoop.com/mark-levin-rick-perry-has-come-up-with-one-hell-of-a-proposal/

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on October 25, 2011 at 10:23 PM

You know it’s a good Perry day when sheryl chimes in LOL!

gophergirl on October 25, 2011 at 10:13 PM

LOL….what can I say I love pouring salt into wounds.

I was actual ahead of David Freddeso, I think Perry’s presidential party/prayer meeting organizing it with the likes of C. Peter Wagner, Mike Bickle, Robert Jeffress, Bryan Fischer and all of their end of world talk, dissing other religions should be disqualifying under the “birds of a feather….” rule.

sheryl on October 25, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Now show the tax form all of us will have to fill out with our accountant before we decide if the 20% rate is best for us. Is there a deduction in Perry’s 20% plan for the expenses I incur because I need an accountant to make sure the 20% is a good deal for me?

csdeven on October 25, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Too easy for not. Just ask yourself how much did you make/pay last year? What would the option have cost me? If within 10%, just pay the damn thing and be done with it– no itemizations and records to maintain for the next 7 years.

AH_C on October 25, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Errrh. S/b “too easy for most”

AH_C on October 25, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Perry certainly did much better tonight on BOR than in the debates. He can deliver stingers with a smile.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 12:02 AM

Oh shut up! Your posts are useless. Granted so is this one but you are a constant, annoyance that just needs to go away.

Vince on October 25, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Awwwww…wadda madder wittle baby? Does not getting your way make you cranky? Go get your grammy to change your diaper. Then she can make you some warm milk and cookies.

csdeven on October 26, 2011 at 12:20 AM

Dr Evil on October 25, 2011 at 7:09 PM

If Perry was poking fun (which I doubt very much considering his record of sticking his foot in his mouth), he needs to rethink it because it certainly backfired on him.

csdeven on October 26, 2011 at 12:23 AM

capitalist piglet on October 25, 2011 at 7:37 PM

It is a forced option if a person cares about the amount of taxes they pay. Perry is giving us the option of just picking a tax rate and forgetting that we may be paying too much in taxes or we have to pay an accountant to figure them in the traditional way to make sure we are paying the least amount.

Perry’s Monopoly Tax plan…..do not pass go, do not collect $200.

csdeven on October 26, 2011 at 12:26 AM

bw222 on October 25, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Yeah, you wish. Palin poked the media for her own entertainment and look where it got her. Perry is making the same mistake according to some of his supporters.

And don’t forget you Palin loon, we were right about her and you were wrong. Your political analysis is worth about as much as a “Palin 2012″ bumper sticker.

csdeven on October 26, 2011 at 12:29 AM

If within 10%, just pay the damn thing and be done with it– no itemizations and records to maintain for the next 7 years.

AH_C on October 25, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Okay, lets rename Perry’s tax plan…we’ll call it….

Perry’s “Just pay the d@mn thing!” Tax Plan.

How brilliant of you!

csdeven on October 26, 2011 at 12:35 AM

Perry certainly did much better tonight on BOR than in the debates. He can deliver stingers with a smile.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 12:02 AM

He was better (Ron Paul was pretty good on Hannity’s show last night, too, but he’s still (and always will be) the wrong messenger for the right message), but, “He can deliver stingers with a smile”, as a compliment? Count me out on when it comes to praising passive-aggressiveness – I don’t respect that Perry doesn’t drop his politician’s mask and flat-out admit that he doesn’t like Romney, nor I do respect his cynical ‘you can’t teach an old dog new tricks’ belief either, whether or not that’s true in the particular case of Romney.

I’m not surprised to see him express that belief, however, considering that he apparently can’t give a decent explanation as to why the 4 legislators in TX who voted against giving illegals in-state tuition rates did the wrong thing, but the 177 who voted for doing did the right thing.

Bizarro No. 1 on October 26, 2011 at 2:46 AM

So there you go. Perry’s winking at Birthers, Cain can barely get through an answer on abortion, Huntsman’s making Chinese-takeout jokes, and Romney is … Romney. Exit question: Second look at Gary Johnson?

Send in the clowns. Someone tell me again why John Thune isn’t running?

Jaibones on October 26, 2011 at 6:29 AM

Exit question: Second look at Gary Johnson?

I read on twitter that someone described Gary Johnson as being another Ron Paul, only “less cranky”.

Having taken a second look at Gary Johnson for any potential nomination by the GOP, my response is, I looked and said no.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 10:06 AM

It appears that the GOP candidates have fallen into some sort of tired stupor. They’re all doing something akin to “class cutup” instead of reading the next chapter like they’re expected to.

Huntsman is notoriously obtuse for such a wealthy and well traveled person. And he’s what I’d call rather repulsive on a first-person basis and I can’t quite identify just why he is, but he is.

Cain’s paying the price of being ill-prepared and too casual while he’s also reaping the poll-popularity benefits of being too casual and avoiding over-preparation – many people apparently find his impromptu quality appealing and thus, Cain’s reputation now of being ‘a real person’. But it comes down to Cain being something bordering on flippant with the seriousness of what he’s engaged in and it could be interpreted as being ill-equipped for the job he’s asking for.

Perry, well, he was just on O’Reilly denigrating Romney in a round-about-impersonal fashion by claiming he, Perry, doesn’t like anyone who changes his positions according to the job he’s seeking.

Yet that sums up Perry on his biggest of profiles and that is party-association, party-platform, his very political identity. One can only run a campaign as a Democrat for the likes of Leftwinger Al Gore and not be taken too seriously when later criticizing anyone else on “changing positions” from the perch of a candidate for “the other party” a decade or so later.

I do think Romney is unjustifiably denigrated in general.

And I still like Gingrich despite that “baggage” some claim he has.

Anyway, my take on a few things.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 10:14 AM

More:

I don’t think Michele Bachmann is “awful” but I do think she should have the practical and tactical sense to withdraw from the race at this point.

Same with Santorum, though I don’t disagree with a lot that he says; he’s just not connecting with enough support, same as Bachmann.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Perry certainly did much better tonight on BOR than in the debates. He can deliver stingers with a smile.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 12:02 AM

He was better (Ron Paul was pretty good on Hannity’s show last night, too, but he’s still (and always will be) the wrong messenger for the right message), but, “He can deliver stingers with a smile”, as a compliment? Count me out on when it comes to praising passive-aggressiveness – I don’t respect that Perry doesn’t drop his politician’s mask and flat-out admit that he doesn’t like Romney, nor I do respect his cynical ‘you can’t teach an old dog new tricks’ belief either, whether or not that’s true in the particular case of Romney.

I’m not surprised to see him express that belief, however, considering that he apparently can’t give a decent explanation as to why the 4 legislators in TX who voted against giving illegals in-state tuition rates did the wrong thing, but the 177 who voted for doing did the right thing.

Bizarro No. 1 on October 26, 2011 at 2:46 AM

Perry’s running against Romney as if Romney was the President. Someone should indoctrinate Perry on the fact that Barack Obama is the opponent, ’cause I’m not sure Perry’s heard that news yet.

I started off liking Perry but at this point, I dunno, he seems very scrappy and snarly and unable to discern the target/s appropriately.

He WAS “good” on O’Reilly last night, calm, composed, conversant, all good qualities, compared with his inexplicable debate appearances to the contrary.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 10:24 AM

I do think Romney is unjustifiably denigrated in general.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 10:14 AM

@mmurraypolitics
Mark Murray
Per @GarrettNBCNews, Romney says he “fully supports” Gov. Kasich on Issue 2 and apologizes for yesterday’s confusion.
14 minutes ago via web

This is pretty funny. No flip flopping here, I suppose, and probably unjustifiable for anyone to mention this?

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM

*ALL* politicians “flip flop”. ALL of them. They *ALL* modify their positions based upon trends and voter support or lack of it.

The responsible ones respond to constituents and “flip flop” when their original positions run contrary to voters. The irresponsible, corrupt ones don’t change their positions when defied by voters and that’s the actual problem.

Romney has a record and an extensive one compared with newcomers to national politics, so he’s going to have “changes” in the course of time with his positions.

I think he’s earned the “flip flopper” tag unjustly ONLY because he’s hardly the one and only politician who has changed his position on any issue over time.

It’s just another one of those snarling pejorative (“flip flopper”) that some people need to fling on someone else for negative purposes.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM

For Heaven’s sake, look at John McCain’s flip-flops. Or Sarah Palin’s. Or Arnold Schwarzenegger’s. Or, or, or…

Politicians say what works when they want to win an election and a lot of what they say isn’t actually what they believe.

In fact, I think, most if not all of them do so.

There are no Super Heroes among the political kind. They say what works to win elections, they maintain what works to maintain funding and re-election.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 11:51 AM

probably unjustifiable for anyone to mention this?

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM

You can mention anything you care to. It’s not my site and contrary to many a politician, I don’t think there are, in reality, any Speech Police who are going to force you to avoid certain words. Maybe a filter here and there, that’s all.

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM

Lourdes on October 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM

Lourdes: I agree in general with your comments. I admit that I have not compiled a list of changed positions of each of the candidates, or once-potential candidates.
I have not settled on a candidate yet. On this particular issue, however, Romney looks particularly bad to me. If what I have seen is correct, he supported this particular point in June or so, then yesterday did not repeat that, saying that he wanted to leave that up to the voters, then today he is back to explicitly supporting it. Since he has the flip-flopping label, it seems to me that he should be avoiding instances that play into that. At the end, his various statements regarding this particular Ohio issue seem pretty funny to me.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 26, 2011 at 12:11 PM

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