Atlanta mayor to “Occupy” protesters: You’re on a “clear path to escalation” so we’re going to have to clear the park

posted at 8:07 pm on October 24, 2011 by Allahpundit

He’s backed down twice before but the antagonism between him and the protesters seems to be peaking. At this point I suspect the movement would welcome a police crackdown somewhere to boost sympathy for the protesters. People are getting bored with the story and there are enough freak-show videos from the protests circulating to put off the middle-class supporters that they need. But heavy-handed action by a city could turn it around depending upon how favorable the resulting narrative is to OWS. Ideally for them, the crackdown would be ordered by a mayor who resembles the cartoon plutocracy they’re railing against; Bloomberg, an aging billionaire with endless friends on Wall Street (and a “Zionist” to boot!), is an almost perfect match. If only he were more conservative, he’d be straight out of central casting. Problem is, so far he’s been accommodating — so much so that he’s evidently willing to tolerate a huge police presence downtown at Zuccotti Park even as the number of shootings elsewhere in the city has spiked, a phenomenon some “high-ranking” cops blame on being stretched thin by OWS.

Instead, the man who may send in the police is … 42-year-old Democrat Kasim Reed. Bad narrative:

At a tense press conference that started at about 4:45, Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed said some people associated with Occupy Atlanta are on “a clear path to escalation” after an unauthorized hip-hop concert over the weekend and an incident in which a member of his staff was shouted down during a television interview.

Reed said he will revoke the executive order allowing Occupy Atlanta protesters to stay in Woodruff Park until Nov. 7. He did not say when that would occur, but said it would be at the time of his choosing and the city’s fire and police departments would be ready to clear the downtown park at his command…

At the press conference, Reed said he planned to give a group of clergy — some of whom joined him at the press conference at City Hall — time to meet with the protesters and work out a solution.

If that doesn’t happen, “we are going to clear the park,” he said.

At various points in the press conference, Occupy Atlanta protesters interrupted Reed and accused him of spin and of exaggerating the threat to citizens. Reed did not take the bait.

Bloomberg has the luxury of waiting a few weeks for winter temperatures to thin the herd before the NYPD starts moving people out. Reed doesn’t. I’d be curious to know if this is a simple case of his patience having run out or if, for whatever reason, he’s sensing that the public is getting tired of the occupiers too and will back him in a confrontation. CNN’s out with a new national poll this afternoon showing an almost even split, 32/29, on whether OWS is viewed favorably or unfavorably. Heavy majorities said they view bankers as greedy, overpaid, and dishonest, but on the specific question about the occupiers, support topped out in the low 30s. Note the age breakdown, too:

After just a month, they’re already underwater with the same older voters whom Democrats are targeting with their “Paul Ryan wants to kill grandma” message next year. And the more stories like this bubble up on Drudge and start to make the rounds, the more danger Dems are in. Even if Reed and other Democratic mayors crack down in the expectation that the locals will support them, the effect among the base nationally is likely to be negative: According to CNN, OWS’s favorable rating among Democrats is 45/12 compared to just 33/30 among indies.

I’m tempted to say that, in a YouTube age where the most eccentric members of any protest can be recorded and used to characterize the whole crowd, it’s hard for any movement to improve its poll numbers over time. Not impossible, maybe — if OWS comes up with a mainstream list of demands aimed at populist class warriors, like a surtax on the rich, it’ll generate some new respectability among independents — but the more people are left snickering at the group’s utopian foibles, the harder it’ll be to reorient later and see them as something other than the financial district’s answer to Burning Man. Via Verum Serum, here’s a guy who knows a thing or two about utopian foibles himself confronting out-and-proud socialists at the protests. I wonder if he ever thought he’d still be having this conversation so many years later.

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It is on.

carbon_footprint on October 24, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Is this thing on?

carbon_footprint on October 24, 2011 at 8:13 PM

Saw occupy boston today. Took some shots.

Not many people. Lots of tents. Weird. Quiet. Not much noise.

Lots of utopian statements. Saw a “cigarette donation fund” box.

Pathetic. Some
Shitty guitar players. No awful drummers.

Public worker was helping people set up tents

blatantblue on October 24, 2011 at 8:13 PM

Yeah, it’s on!

carbon_footprint on October 24, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Don’t deploy just the police… first you want the firemen with watercannon to clear the place out.

Really it’s a two-fer: you get rid of the source of the smell and the smell at the same time and no one can resist a blast from a watercannon. And its biosafe and recycles! The eco-friendly way to end these things.

ajacksonian on October 24, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Is this thing on?

carbon_footprint on October 24, 2011 at 8:13 PM

carbon_footprint:Hello….Hello…HELLO,haha!:)

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Is this thing on?

carbon_footprint on October 24, 2011 at 8:13 PM

carbon_footprint:Hello….Hello…HELLO,haha!:)

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Yeah, I thought maybe the Internet had crashed everywhere but here for a few minutes.

carbon_footprint on October 24, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Occupy this!

davidk on October 24, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Reed said he will revoke the executive order allowing Occupy Atlanta protesters to stay in Woodruff Park until Nov. 7

No he won’t.

Knucklehead on October 24, 2011 at 8:20 PM

Here in Atlanta the people are simply fed up the out town hippies coming in and just making a nuisance out of themselves. There is more pressure on the mayor to shut this thing down then there is blowback from the OWS goons. The local news has only given minimal coverage and what has come out seems to be the blooper of the day. The Occupy Atlanta crowd has done a lot to damage the national movement overall. Locally they always seem to plan some sort of march or walk right at 5 PM when people are heading home from a hard day’s work and the last thing they want is to be tied up in traffic because of a bunch of self absorbed college kids.

No, Mayor Reed is on firmer footing giving these punks the boot then he is from any sort of negative publicity resulting from a crackdown. Even now on the social media forums it is OWS folks from New York and LA who are urging the resistance while the Atlanta crowd realizes the jig is up.

Just A Grunt on October 24, 2011 at 8:21 PM

It’s hard for me to believe that there is anyone alive who believes that N. Korea is anything less than a disaster.

Cindy Munford on October 24, 2011 at 8:21 PM

blatantblue on October 24, 2011 at 8:13 PM

That’s odd, Prof. Althouse had pictures of Occupy Madison and there were tents and signs laying all over the place but almost no people.

Cindy Munford on October 24, 2011 at 8:22 PM

The Liberation of the Occupiers is ongoing,
and soon,all Occupied Regions,Territories,
and squatters,in suurounding areas,

will be free at last!!

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Some of the dems support in the polling is because they realize this is all part of the campaign game to reelect obama with class warfare and beyond that little if any policy presentations or points they support.

CommentGuy on October 24, 2011 at 8:24 PM

LIBERATION…Musical Theme!
================================

Sweet – Set Me Free
********************

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXxM0Wz1q8I

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:25 PM

It’s hard for me to believe that there is anyone alive who believes that N. Korea is anything less than a disaster.

Cindy Munford on October 24, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Shouldn’t be that hard, you just saw two of them making the case right there in that video. They have bad soil and are oppressed by imperialism, you know.

deadrody on October 24, 2011 at 8:26 PM

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:16 PM
======================
Yeah, I thought maybe the Internet had crashed everywhere but here for a few minutes.

carbon_footprint on October 24, 2011 at 8:18 PM

carbon_footprint:Posty disappearage problem!??:)

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:27 PM

That’s odd, Prof. Althouse had pictures of Occupy Madison and there were tents and signs laying all over the place but almost no people.
Cindy Munford on October 24, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Cindy if I had to put my best guess, in an area comparable to zuccotti in manhattan, I can recall only about 40 people. 60 Max. No more than that. Lots of tents maybe some people in those. But it was 12 noon and 60 degrees.

blatantblue on October 24, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Cindy if I had to put my best guess, in an area comparable to zuccotti in manhattan, I can recall only about 40 people. 60 Max. No more than that. Lots of tents maybe some people in those. But it was 12 noon and 60 degrees.

blatantblue on October 24, 2011 at 8:27 PM

You should put up your pictures. I’m very curious to see what the Boston morons look like when photographed by an objective photographer and not some sympathetic AP buffoon.

deadrody on October 24, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Please, oh please, alert the media first so I can go get a case of beer and a large jar of popcorn :D

cane_loader on October 24, 2011 at 8:30 PM

I wouldn’t mind a police crack down on these Marxists.

rbj on October 24, 2011 at 8:32 PM

You should put up your pictures. I’m very curious to see what the Boston morons look like when photographed by an objective photographer and not some sympathetic AP buffoon.

deadrody on October 24, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Overhead shots do that pretty well, or anything above street level.

And maybe leave a sign: Occupy These Tents.

ajacksonian on October 24, 2011 at 8:32 PM

First step towards what history will remember as the “Obama riots”

DeweyWins on October 24, 2011 at 8:35 PM

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:25 PM

I think this more along the lines of the Occupiers theme song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA51wyl-9IE

A scruffy, toothless hippy sings about feeling like a “motherless child.” Yep, that’s them.

predator on October 24, 2011 at 8:37 PM

deadrody on October 24, 2011 at 8:29 PM

If you go to

http://flickr.com/kameeraphoto
My
OWS NYC photos are there. Gotta edit OWBoston

blatantblue on October 24, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Twinkle Fingers Up On The Idea

Twinkle Fingers Down On Reed Actually Doing Something About It

Branch Rickey on October 24, 2011 at 8:41 PM

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:25 PM

I think this more along the lines of the Occupiers theme song.
==============================

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA51wyl-9IE

A scruffy, toothless hippy sings about feeling like a “motherless child.” Yep, that’s them.

predator on October 24, 2011 at 8:37 PM

predator:Okay,yes,better,btw,I watched the WoodStock documentry,
and remember that part,and with all that strumm’n,he’s
lucky his guiter,didn’t catch fire!!:)

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:46 PM

QOTD candidate #1 from final video:

Former USSR citizen (VERY experienced in socialism as seen from the worker’s POV) to American socialist wannabees, on tehj subject of North korea vs. South Korea:

“You have no freakin’ clue!”

QOTD candidate #2:

“Under capitalism people suffer, under socialism people die.”

fred5678 on October 24, 2011 at 8:48 PM

will be free at last!!

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Free at last!
IPods, free!
Nikes, free!
Starbucks, free!
Apples, free!
$100,000 to get a degree in sociology, free!
$200,000 to get a masters in ethnic studies and yoga, free!
Thank God almighty, all the important thing in life, free at last!

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 24, 2011 at 8:49 PM

predator:Okay,yes,better,btw,I watched the WoodStock documentry,
and remember that part,and with all that strumm’n,he’s
lucky his guiter,didn’t catch fire!!:)
canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Heh. Yeah, it’s a good thing his pick wasn’t made of flint. Cody and Dave at Dual Survival would have been green with envy at his fire-starting capabilities.

predator on October 24, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Greatest type of porn is blue on blue porn.

angryed on October 24, 2011 at 8:52 PM

I think I can afford a one way ticket to Russian or Cuba…Do they wanted to go?

cw on October 24, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Heh. Yeah, it’s a good thing his pick wasn’t made of flint. Cody and Dave at Dual Survival would have been green with envy at his fire-starting capabilities.

predator on October 24, 2011 at 8:51 PM

predator:Lol:)

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Yeah, I thought maybe the Internet had crashed everywhere but here for a few minutes.

carbon_footprint on October 24, 2011 at 8:18 PM

I think there are thousands, like me, who just sit read and then blink, blink, blink and stare blankly after another day of head-banging news.

betsyz on October 24, 2011 at 8:54 PM

LIBERATION…Musical Theme!
================================

Sweet – Set Me Free
********************

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Desolation Blvd, their best album!

However, I believe a more appropriate tune for the OWSers from that album is I Wannna be Committed! very fitting since they sing about wanting to be committed for their minds!

Liberty or Death on October 24, 2011 at 8:56 PM

“People are getting bored with the story…”

Yeah…

… but this is all part of Obowma’s re-election campaign.

That’s the story that needs to be told…

Seven Percent Solution on October 24, 2011 at 9:04 PM

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:25 PM
Desolation Blvd, their best album!

However, I believe a more appropriate tune for the OWSers from that album is I Wannna be Committed! very fitting since they sing about wanting to be committed for their minds!

Liberty or Death on October 24, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Liberty or Death:I had that in 8-track,yes,I want to be committed,
would be better!!

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 9:04 PM

will be free at last!!

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Thank God almighty, all the important thing in life, free at last!

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 24, 2011 at 8:49 PM

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo:Yup,they sure didn’t get their gas and mortgage
paid yet!!:)

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 9:08 PM

lord of the flies.

maineconservative on October 24, 2011 at 9:11 PM

Fox News: Calls Protesting Mother “More Disgusting Than Any Of These Filths On Wall Street”
Added: 5 hours ago Occurred On: Oct-24-2011
********************************************

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=63e_1319484980

****The womens hubby,is a Banker,according to Fox!!

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 9:13 PM

I wonder if he’ll use fire hoses.

MikeA on October 24, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Black politicians have (thankfully) become part of the mainstream, which means they have to attend to the interests and needs of ALL their constituents, not just special interest groups of complainers and malcontents. Good on Mayor Reed. I hope he sticks to his guns.

RebeccaH on October 24, 2011 at 9:20 PM

If anyone comes around this is Prof. Althouses story & pics

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/10/at-occupy-madison-occupation-is.html

Cindy Munford on October 24, 2011 at 9:25 PM

That vid was so spot on. Great find. It showed exactly who most of these people are.

nwpammy on October 24, 2011 at 9:32 PM

more popcorn please!

ted c on October 24, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Honestly,

This is clearcut racism. Look at the Occupy crowds. They are made up of overwhelmingly white protesters. Can’t this clearly non-white mayor restrain his obvious racist instincts and let these protest go on?

Think of the children!

dougwinship on October 24, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Time to start cracking skulls.

BallisticBob on October 24, 2011 at 10:02 PM

blatantblue on October 24, 2011 at 8:13 PM

Wish I had known you were in town; I’d have treated you to a nice dinner.

massrighty on October 24, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Social experiment-occupy movement. All occupiers that have homes elsewhere, must give up their tents so that the true homeless can have it. All occupiers with money are not allowed food or must give up their cash, they can afford food save the food that is at OWS for those that have no food. All oocupiers with more than one set of clothing must give up that clothing to those who have none. All occupiers that have cell phones and ipods must choose to give up one or the other in order that another person who does not have an ipod or cell phone can have one. To each according to his need. Experiment over.

canditaylor68 on October 24, 2011 at 10:12 PM

The Russian fellow in the video was GOLDEN. Those clueless clowns didn’t even realize they were being taken apart by someone who had lived in the society that they want.

I thought he sounded like Jakov Smirnov. I expected him to say “Is this a great country, or what?”

iurockhead on October 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Wish I had known you were in town; I’d have treated you to a nice dinner.

massrighty on October 24, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Aw that would be awesome

I’m currently in medford just near Davis Square

blatantblue on October 24, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Reminds me of the Tea Party. Almost to the tea.

/

CW on October 24, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Ronald Reagan said it best:

“…so much of what my friends from the left “know for sure” is WRONG!”

landlines on October 24, 2011 at 11:37 PM

The Russian fellow in the video was GOLDEN. Those clueless clowns didn’t even realize they were being taken apart by someone who had lived in the society that they want.
iurockhead on October 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Legal immigrants from Russia or other Eastern Bloc countries usually do the best job of defending capitalism.

I used to think Arnold Schwarzenegger was good at that, until lately . . . . .

listens2glenn on October 25, 2011 at 12:06 AM

Did I hear them shout “Simian racist!” or “Racist simian!” when he walked off? He said something back like “Whatever!” Gotta – GOTTA – throw that “racist” in there, right? It’s like the new period. Goes at the end of every sentence that’s not a question.

He’s right. They have no freaking clue.

citrus on October 25, 2011 at 12:24 AM

I had that in 8-track,yes,I want to be committed,
would be better!!

canopfor on October 24, 2011 at 9:04 PM

Ah, you’re showing your age canopfor…that’s ok, I had an 8-track too! That and I still call them “albums” not CD’s, etc!

Liberty or Death on October 25, 2011 at 12:28 AM

Which of these meanings do you think ‘Occupy Wall Street’ intends? So even their name conveys and ‘telegraphs’ what they intend: ie: property unjustly taken for use by another. That’s the exact power of their choice of the word ‘occupy’ — it conveys their view of their entitlement to others’ property to other potential members.

So the first word in their very name describes their brand of ‘justice’ (to them it is just to take or use another’s property).

oc·cu·py   [ok-yuh-pahy] Show IPA verb, -pied, -py·ing.
verb (used with object)
1.
to take or fill up (space, time, etc.): I occupied my evenings reading novels.
2.
to engage or employ the mind, energy, or attention of: Occupy the children with a game while I prepare dinner.
3.
to be a resident or tenant of; dwell in: We occupied the same house for 20 years.
4.
to take possession and control of (a place), as by military invasion.
5.
to hold (a position, office, etc.).

ElRonaldo on October 25, 2011 at 2:06 AM

Had this been shut down on day one no one would even still be talking about it.

Sgt_H on October 25, 2011 at 5:26 AM

Good lord. Those freaks in the video… They’re so prosperous that they can take the afternoon to get their protesting street cred with their professionally made signs, but have never heard of the reality of North Korea. Maybe they could use a good bread line.

Sgt_H on October 25, 2011 at 5:30 AM

If there is one commonality between these Fleabaggers it’s that they buy the crap printed on the posters PROVIDED TO THEM and don’t do the research. If this woman feels North Korea is a super place to live and work – buy a ticket. And the documentation of human meat for sale is out there.

It’s supposed to be a high in the low 40’s here in NJ on Saturday so we will see who really is hard core among these loud mouthed “kept” adult kids in lower Manhattan.

And Bloomberg needs to put his BIG BOY PANTS on and decide whether he wants this crap to continue at not only tourist $$ costs but also lives in other parts of the city that are low on police protection. He seems to feel turning his police into “baby sitters” for the brats at “WALLSTINK” comes with no opportunity cost. He’s wrong.

IlonaE on October 25, 2011 at 7:56 AM

LOL, of the 18-34 year olds, the highest percentage is 38%, Never heard of OWS. Well, they aren’t like the TEA party.

jeffn21 on October 25, 2011 at 8:46 AM

What gets me is that they still have Che’s picture on signs. You’d think by now the SEIU could afford some new signs. These people holding the signs have no clue who Che was, what he did for a living and how Castro sent him to S. Am to get rid of him. When you’re too crazy for Fidel, that’s sayin’ a lot.

Kissmygrits on October 25, 2011 at 9:31 AM

How in the world can people not know about the atrocities that are committed in N. Korea? I worked for a nonprofit that one time purchased a shipload of rice to take to N. Korea because their people were starving. We did our little bit. The President of the organization met the ship in N. Korea and oversaw the off loading so that the rice would not just go to the military. That is where the majority of food relief goes in N. Korea if not watched.

The people in N. Korea are starving today. Dear Leader lives in opulence and is drugged out most of the time.

These people need to buy a clue because their idiocy is appalling.

Voter from WA State on October 24, 2011 at 9:47 PM

That interview by a former resident (victim) of the Soviet Union was GREAT–and Korea was the perfect poster child for that ignorant woman!

South Korea has less land area (100,210 km2) but twice the population (49 million) as North Korea (120,540 km2, 24 million), but the South exports food to the North!

How about scoring prosperity for the average citizen, based on GDP per capita?

South Korea (capitalist) $31,754
North Korea (socialist) $ 1,900

Night-time satellite pictures of the Korean peninsula clearly show the border–blazing electric lights to the south, and pitch dark to the north.

If this woman loves socialism so much, let her live on $1,900 a year without electricity, and ride a rusty old bicycle to work for a year, then ask her if she would prefer making $32,000 a year with the lights on, and drive a Hyundai.

Steve Z on October 25, 2011 at 10:26 AM

“Under capitalism people suffer, under socialism people die.”

fred5678 on October 24, 2011 at 8:48 PM

I thought he said under capitalism people prosper…?

scituate_tgr on October 25, 2011 at 10:44 AM