The next piece of Obama’s jobs proposal to face a vote: You hate potholes, don’t you?
posted at 7:07 pm on October 21, 2011 by Tina Korbe
Last night, the first individual piece of the American Jobs Act to face a vote in the Senate met defeat. I know, I know: Hard to believe Republicans would vote against giving $35 billion to states and cities to hire and retain “teachers and first responders.” Sure, we’re in debt and the last stimulus failed — but this round of spending is paid for with tax hikes. What’s not to like?
Surely those GOP-ers will agree to spend money we don’t have on the next part of the president’s plan likely to hit the Senate floor — $50 billion for immediate spending on the nation’s transportation network and another $10 billion to create an infrastructure bank. I mean, you hate potholes, don’t you?
Republicans in the Senate must love them because this piece is as unlikely to pass as the last one. In fact, Democrats must love ‘em, too, because a similar proposal a couple years ago ginned up little enthusiasm in Congress — and that was when the House was still in Democratic hands.
Seriously now, when will this rigmarole be over? Blame whichever side you want, the point is: The president and Congress continue to waste time rather than deal effectively with the deficit and debt, which I will forever maintain must be solved to solve the jobs crisis long-term.
Here’s what I don’t understand: Republicans at least make a case as to why they’re against tax hikes. But the president never explains why he’s opposed to spending cuts. In fact, in interviews, he still reiterates the importance of addressing the deficit — and, even though he advocates a “balanced approach,” he doesn’t deny that spending cuts have to be a part of the package. If two things need to be done to solve a problem and everybody will agree to do one of them, why not do it? Why try to stuff the other unpalatable option down everyone’s throats before you’ve even taken advantage of the universally agreed-upon option? (That’s not to say I agree with the president that we need tax hikes. It’s just to say Republicans would likely be far more open to tax hikes if the federal government had already cut as much spending as possible.) Yes, it’s difficult to determine what to cut, but focus the energy on figuring that out — not on trying to persuade people to accept tax hikes. No one wants to cut programs that will cost special-interest voters; I understand that. But why, really, wouldn’t the president at least partially offset this new spending with even lip-service spending cuts?
Frankly, I’m like most Americans; I think it’s far less a waste of my tax dollars to hire and retain teachers and first responders or to repair potholes (yes, I’m falling for the lingo) than it is to funnel money into, say, broken entitlement programs or to implement — I don’t know — EPA regulations. (That’s not completely accurate, of course; I’m skeptical of the money to states and cities to hire more government workers, not least because I know Democrats have exaggerated the number of teachers who’ve lost their jobs in the first place. But, the point is, I understand the emotional pull of the president’s present appeal.) If the president simply proposed to pay for this new spending with offsetting cuts, he’d really give Republicans no leg to stand on for their opposition. If he’s really convinced these measures will create jobs, why risk their non-passage by giving Republicans any excuse to oppose them?
It’s growing tiresome to repeat it, but the point has to be made over and over: With his American Jobs Act and now the piecemeal attempt at passage, the president is playing brutally ugly politics. The president’s plan is working … and it was never to create jobs.









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Potholes?
The money will be going to various unions and union donors.
Whatever might be left over, well, a few potholes here, a few potholes there, and a bunch of expensive union-made signs telling everybody that this is all part of Obama’s Recovery Plan or something?
coldwarrior on October 21, 2011 at 7:14 PM
Pot holes are responsible for thousands of deaths. Just ask Joe Biden.
hepcat on October 21, 2011 at 7:16 PM
I’m assuming this is a modest proposal to fill them in with the bodies of the unemployed, or middle eastern dictators. Either way. Keep those great ideas coming, Barack!
cynccook on October 21, 2011 at 7:16 PM
You don’t seem to understand the underlying reasons why the vast majority of economists supported the first stimulus- which actually succeeded in maintaining positive economic growth during a time when further economic contraction might have led to a far worse reckoning- and why most economists also support the second stimulus.
The idea behind stimulus is that the public sector becomes the spender of last resort in a balance sheet recession where high levels of household debt are holding consumer spending in check. If you were to offset stimulus spending with other spending cuts, that would undermine the effects of stimulus in boosting GDP. It’s the reason why some Dems proposed a .5% surtax on annual income exceeding $1 mil to pay for the stimulus as opposed to spending cuts.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=6125976&page=2
bayam on October 21, 2011 at 7:16 PM
Tina, what he wants is either funds approved for his public and private unionistas who will then funnel much of that money into his campaign and the DNC or issues to run on against the Rs in 2012. The R senators, the R candidates and the RNC need to make this clear. It is beyond being transparent.
TXUS on October 21, 2011 at 7:17 PM
He’s just getting started…
… in the end there will be scorched earth.
Seven Percent Solution on October 21, 2011 at 7:19 PM
Pot holes? We don’t need no stinking pot holes. This is about reelecting the head chingaso, man. Here’s your pothole. I got your pot hole right here! What are you, stupid?
Mason on October 21, 2011 at 7:21 PM
Potholes for Obama 2012!
El_Terrible on October 21, 2011 at 7:21 PM
maybe if they didn’t funnel away the highway trust fund oh sorry the surface transportation trust fund they might have money to repair infrastructure and pot holes.
RonK on October 21, 2011 at 7:22 PM
The last “stimulus” package, the local school district spent a lot of money on resurfacing the asphalt play areas in the junior high school across the street from where I live. The problem was, the school had been closed for a couple of years because of insufficient students in the district, and the situation is not likely to change in the near future.
Likewise, the county resurfaced the streets in my neighborhood and made them nice and smooth for a change. Then, a month later, they decided they needed to replace the sewer lines under the streets, so they dug holes in all that nice, new pavement, put in their pipes, and left a bunch of bumpy patches on the surface.
But I’m sure this time they won’t waste the billions-for-potholes money like that, would they?
Socratease on October 21, 2011 at 7:25 PM
Oh no! Your tires all flat and junk.
BKeyser on October 21, 2011 at 7:26 PM
Your local government wants you to get laid off from your teaching job, fall in a pothole, get raped and then murdered.
That’s why it’s Obama’s job to fill in potholes — not your local or state transportation department.
Kohath on October 21, 2011 at 7:28 PM
How about sidewalks to nowhere?
Connie on October 21, 2011 at 7:28 PM
Furget the potholes…….I want my Rosa DeLauro Diapers!!!!
Diapers, food stamps, heating assistance, and I want not only the DIAPER ACT passéd but I want baby wipes included.
I WANT IT ALL!……..and to eat the rich as well!!!
Long live the ObamaNation!!!!
PappyD61 on October 21, 2011 at 7:31 PM
……and I want some of those ObamaDollars on a food card so I can healthy like The wonderfully thoughtful Michelle.
Food Credits for the Middle class please.
PappyD61 on October 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM
Because us peons in the dreaded private sector are quite fed up watching the pub-sec live high on the hog after we got beat up and wiped out these last couple of years. Screw them, what about us?
maineconservative on October 21, 2011 at 7:34 PM
If The idea behind stimulus is that the public sector becomes the spender of last resort” as Bayam says, why is it the liberals seem to always go there first? Isn’t the ‘last resort’ supposed to be, er, last?
psrch on October 21, 2011 at 7:34 PM
Would you not do that. My head is going to explode. Duct tape anyone?
CW on October 21, 2011 at 7:39 PM
If there’s anything I hate more than rich people, it’s POTHOLES.
petefrt on October 21, 2011 at 7:39 PM
November 7, 2012.
JohnGalt23 on October 21, 2011 at 7:40 PM
Mexicans love filling in Pot holes…How can you keep them out of the country?
tomas on October 21, 2011 at 7:42 PM
Bayam only thinks it is smart. What that fool doesn’t get is that there is a cost to this madness and a wastefulness. The opportunity cost is immense. They may have avoided some pain now but will we will pay in spades for decades. This is also known as kicking the can down the road.
CW on October 21, 2011 at 7:42 PM
And rapes too… according to Joe.
Ampersand on October 21, 2011 at 7:43 PM
So Obama’s gone back to being a Senator? That’s pretty much what a Senator does, they keep the pot holes filled.
Dr Evil on October 21, 2011 at 7:43 PM
Ergo, give the government unions your money when times get bad, because they will do a better job of spending it than you will.
WitchDoctor on October 21, 2011 at 7:44 PM
Isn’t this just code for more high speed rail and bike paths?
rw on October 21, 2011 at 7:45 PM
There’s no “likely open” Tina. Period. Republicans that are open to tax hikes, (revenue increases to our phony liberal friends), will see the wrath of the Tea Party and a majority of conservatives. We don’t need tax hikes, we need to shrink the size of the federal government. It’s purely ideological, and you won’t see one liberal Democrat agree to spending cuts within the government. This will all be decided at the voting booths next year.
Rovin on October 21, 2011 at 7:45 PM
… and yet they say that there is just no place to cut, or that the cuts won’t be large enough to make a difference.
They are idiots and fools.
AZfederalist on October 21, 2011 at 7:47 PM
Tina, those of us who’ve been around a while simply don’t have any tolerance for the idea of tax hikes. We’ve been down this path too many times. Reagan allowing SS tax hikes to keep it viable, Bush breaking his campaign promise of “no more taxes” with the agreement for spending cuts. Somehow, the tax increases were immediate, but the spending cuts just never seemed to materialize. On and on, always the same, “Give me a tax increase now, and I’ll reduce spending in the out-years” It never happens, we aren’t going to be fooled again.
AZfederalist on October 21, 2011 at 7:51 PM
Ya know…I really didn’t care to much for Clinton….I guess that should be ‘The Clintons’…I absolutely loathe that cow Billy Jeff is married to…
I really hate this SOB.
BigWyo on October 21, 2011 at 7:52 PM
And what’s your source for that remark? Common sense?
bayam on October 21, 2011 at 8:10 PM
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The article headline is “Majority of economists in USA TODAY survey back 2nd stimulus,” not “The Vast Majority of Economists …” You also might want to check the validity of figures in this article you dragged in from intellectual frigidity:
This is not a current article. What is it, from 2001? 6.1% unemployment is sure NOT last month.
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Just to make sure you are economically literate, why don’t you tell us what Keynes had to say about surpluses. Oh never mind. Here:
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We haven’t had a trade surplus in decades. Any Keynesian theory suggesting “deficit spending” needs to have a balancing surplus, most likely in positive export current balance. It sure isn’t going to be fiscal surplus – Congress spends like a drunken sailor (no offense to drunken sailors).
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Your underlying article is pure poop. The only reference to “spending” is this:
ExpressoBold on October 21, 2011 at 8:21 PM
I want to see the bill that puts oil rig operators in the gulf back in business.
ctmom on October 21, 2011 at 8:32 PM
might we at least consider dumping the D.I.A.P.E.R. Act?
katablog.com on October 21, 2011 at 8:36 PM
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You don’t need to bring the trade deficit into this conversation- it’s not relevant- although there’s no doubt it’s a very important issue and few people understand how it’s linked to our fiscal deficit.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-28/obama-jobs-plan-prevents-2012-recession-in-survey-of-economists.html
It’s true that at this point the goal is more abut job retention than creation, but that message won’t resonate with voters.
bayam on October 21, 2011 at 8:40 PM
Barry is in it for the political soundbites. Logic went out the window a long time ago.
GarandFan on October 21, 2011 at 8:43 PM
His
non-politicaltrips would pay for a whole lot of pot hole fixing.Dingbat63 on October 21, 2011 at 8:51 PM
Let’s see, federal government’s enumerated powers…. potholes… potholes… Gee, I don’t see potholes listed anywhere!
RJL on October 21, 2011 at 8:52 PM
What part of opportunity costs don’t you understand?
chemman on October 21, 2011 at 8:55 PM
Stick around for a while, champ. Experience counts for something. History is a wonderful teacher. Learn from her.
onlineanalyst on October 21, 2011 at 9:26 PM
I musta missed it.
They passed a budget right?
I mean they musta passed a budget if they can work on this, right?
So when did they pass the budgets, anyone have a link to them?
Jason Coleman on October 21, 2011 at 9:40 PM
Here is one answer to your concerns.
http://www.hoisingtonmgt.com
It addresses the damage and shortsightedness of the Keynesian approach you seem to favor.
islestar on October 21, 2011 at 9:52 PM
What is being proposed is the expenditure of nearly 2 times NASA’s annual budget and nearly the budget of Homeland Security.
In perspective, it is really a large sum of money.
And the proposal is to spend the money hiring people to do “soft” work.
Mr. Biden failed to persuade us that additional police are actually needed to maintain current safety levels, and few of our citizens believe that the kids will learn less if they have to survive in classrooms with a few more students. You are then left with a pile of expenses with no lasting benefit.
At least the Pot Hole idea provides some tangibility to the expenditures, but potholes are, by and large, the responsibility of municipal and state governments. Let them raise the taxes they need.
And what is to prevent the government to put work out to bid to the actual “lowest bidder” without all the red tape, setasides, special favors and PLA’s. Why shouldn’t the taxpayer expect that the government works at maximum efficiency? Paying more for work than it is worth doesn’t actually help the economy, and if by overpaying for work, you offer fewer jobs to the unemployed, government is squarely part of the problem.
islestar on October 21, 2011 at 10:09 PM
Only black ones.
disa on October 21, 2011 at 10:56 PM
No No No, you are missing the whole point, he needs the money to send MORE jobs to build 100K electric cars in Finland, by a company owned by a campaign cash bundler for his re-election.
Come on, get with the program here.
karenhasfreedom on October 21, 2011 at 11:11 PM
The pot hole fixin’ season will be over by the time this bill would get signed into law anyway.
Kissmygrits on October 22, 2011 at 7:45 AM
I’m fillin all my potholes with that free Obama money!
wait, maybe I’ll start an “Occupy Potholes” movement.
gordo on October 22, 2011 at 8:02 AM
Karl Rove had a segment on FNC today in which he was reading the language from the stimulus bill. Basically, it required states which accept the federal stimulus money for schools to guarantee that they will not spend less this year than they spent last year, and that they will not spend less in 2012 than they spent in 2011. So basically, it incentivizes them to keep spending more and more (even if they have fewer students or some of their expenses are lowered), and penalizes them (by taking away money) if they dare to spend less.
Insane.
AZCoyote on October 22, 2011 at 8:44 AM
Well everyone knows the private sector is just sitting around with their orange security vests and shovels just waiting for a job, right?
This administration is a JOKE!
xler8bmw on October 22, 2011 at 9:15 AM
Vulgar Keynesianism. Try something beyond the 102 level, okay?
DrSteve on October 22, 2011 at 10:52 AM
Next: More trash pickups.
flataffect on October 22, 2011 at 2:17 PM