Career politicians?

posted at 11:25 am on October 21, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Mitt Romney has come out swinging against Rick Perry as a career politician in an attempt to discredit Perry with Tea Party activists.  That’s a fair point; Perry’s long public-sector tenure represents one of the big issues that conservative grassroots have with establishment Republicans.  It’s up to Perry to demonstrate that he doesn’t fit in that pigeonhole.  Romney even created a website, CareerPolitician.com, as a platform for pressuring Perry on his lack of private-sector experience.

However, as National Journal reported last night, the site itself says something about its owner, too:

Mitt Romney‘s campaign proudly touted the launch of careerpolitician.com Thursday, a website attacks Texas Gov. Rick Perry‘s record. While the Romney campaign announced careerpolitician.com as new website, a review of the site’s registration reveals that its owner in fact registered the domain name several years ago.

According to the GoDaddy.com registration of the domain name, careerpolitician.com, was purchased on March 24th, 2007 and expires on that date in 2013. The registry was recently updated on Sept. 8th, 2011.

So the man criticizing Perry as a “career politician” has been holding the domain name for this particular attack for more than four years.  In fact, the owner held it long before anyone thought of Perry as a potential contender.  That sounds an awful lot like a man who spent the last four years running for President, does it not?  Plus, it’s also fair to point out that Romney was running for federal office in 1994, when he challenged Ted Kennedy for his seat in Massachusetts, before winning the gubernatorial election in 2002 and President in 2007-8.  The only reason Romney hasn’t spent the last seventeen years as a politician is because he lost two of those three elections.

Christopher Peleo-Lazar speculates that Romney might have wanted to use CareerPolitician.com against John McCain or Sam Brownback in 2007-8, but neither make a lot of sense.  Brownback was never a factor in that cycle, and McCain’s record as a war hero would make that argument weak.  I’d bet that it was actually intended for Mike Huckabee, an opponent with whom Romney had feuded in a similar manner as Romney has with Perry.

As more of an aside, does Romney really use GoDaddy for his website needs?  Has anyone on Team Romney watched their soft-porn advertising?  Way to woo the family-values vote, guys.

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whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 11:41 AM

whatcat has already explained it correctly.

Ed, the facts do not support your statement that “So the man criticizing Perry as a “career politician” has been holding the domain name for this particular attack for more than four years.”

The update on Sept 8th does not necessarily mean new owners. Most probably the name servers pointing to the current host were updated and the website went live.

sanjeevn on October 21, 2011 at 1:20 PM

So you are undecided? I could change my mind depending…

RedLizard64 on October 21, 2011 at 12:54 PM

I am quite disappointed with the current field and definitely undecided. How can we be in this position… again?

I’ve leaned a few times… towards Perry, Cain and (God help me) I even consider and dismiss Newt after each debate but I just can’t get past his personal and political baggage.

I would not want my name on anyone’s list at this time and that’s sad.

Fallon on October 21, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Romney certainly has made a career in politics…but he has only governed as a politician for 4 years.

Like most things Romney says, it is highly nuanced.

lol

csdeven on October 21, 2011 at 1:26 PM

lol.. Trans Texas Corridor is the continuation of the magnet which Perry is so fond of discussing… He already is bending over backwards to subsidize their healthcare (wouldn’t want to be heartless now would we?), he’s championed trans-national healthcare plans, so why not build a big ol’ freakin’ highway while we’re at it.

gatorboy on October 21, 2011 at 12:15 PM

That is completely false. Please get your facts right. The bi-naitonal insurance was deregulation of private insurance companies, a free market plan to allow them to cover people on both sides of the border.

TTC was NOT a magnet for illegals–it was to enable LEGAL trade and transportation.

It’s fine to disagree, plus please base your opinion on facts.

juliesa on October 21, 2011 at 1:29 PM

ANYone who’s never going to change their mind on something strikes me as a horrible way to be. I like bend but don’t break, and Romney’s ideas TODAY (which is what really matters) are where they need to be. It’s not like he’s changed ALL of his stances, and look at Perry… He used to be a Democrat for crying out loud. HE changed his mind on some things just like Romney has.

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Romney didn’t change his mind on AGW and subsidies for “green” fuels. He hasn’t changed his mind on socialized medicine……well except he’s decided it’s a 10th Amendment thing rather than national. Yeah, Mittens has ‘grown’ as a perennial candidate.

cartooner on October 21, 2011 at 1:29 PM

RedLizard64 on October 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM

Wow. Obsess much? Why do you care who any of these people support?

To our HA crew….to see exactly how deep his obsession is, I suggest we all email this obsessive person with a change in our desired candidate each day.

csdeven on October 21, 2011 at 1:30 PM

It’s fine to disagree, plus please base your opinion on facts.

juliesa on October 21, 2011 at 1:29 PM

gatorturd isn’t interested in no stinkin’ facts.

cartooner on October 21, 2011 at 1:32 PM

Most likely someone bought the domain in 2007 with the purpose of selling it and Romney bought it on Sept 8th, 2011.

There is no need to compete with the MSM fabricating stories.

gh on October 21, 2011 at 11:42 AM

If this is true, it will be the second time in the last few days that Ed went all in against Romney with a dumb story. But as always, I’ll wait for the facts.

csdeven on October 21, 2011 at 1:34 PM

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 1:10 PM

What the Eff is wrong with you? Don’t you realize that only their candidate can evolve his beliefs?

csdeven on October 21, 2011 at 1:35 PM

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 11:41 AM

whatcat has already explained it correctly.

Ed, the facts do not support your statement that “So the man criticizing Perry as a “career politician” has been holding the domain name for this particular attack for more than four years.”

The update on Sept 8th does not necessarily mean new owners. Most probably the name servers pointing to the current host were updated and the website went live.

sanjeevn on October 21, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Actually, I’m guessing the Sept 8th date is when the Romney campaign checked to see if it was registered, found that somebody already owned the name, and purchased it from the domain name creator. That makes complete sense in the context of the campaign timeline and makes it an almost 2 month ownership by the Romney campaign, not the non-sensical 5 year thing.
Otherwise, if this were a 5 year plot by Romney, I gotta go with those who say we should be hailing his genius and gift him with the nomination just for his amazing psychic power alone! :D

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Ed failed miserably with this blog. If it were true, its a lame comparison. But its not even true. Just pumping false narratives into the dialogue to “Get Romney”. Awful. Ed pulling a Macaca.

swamp_yankee on October 21, 2011 at 1:42 PM

RedLizard64 on October 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM

Wow. Obsess much? Why do you care who any of these people support?

To our HA crew….to see exactly how deep his obsession is, I suggest we all email this obsessive person with a change in our desired candidate each day.

csdeven on October 21, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Heh, I look at who you are catching the flak from and see the names that would go on that second list. Good goin’.

cozmo on October 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Mitt Romney Buys CareerPolitician.com from Oversee.net

Mitt Romney’s campaign launched CareerPolitician.com this week to blast rival Rick Perry.

The seller? Oversee.net.

The domain name was originally registered at GoDaddy in 2007 by Tucson, Arizona company eFind. It landed in the portfolio of Oversee.net subsidiary Portfolio Brains the following year, and it held it until last month. In September it transferred back to GoDaddy under whois privacy.

Yes, whatcat … it appears … the Sep 8th date was the owner change + name servers change all rolled into one.

Ed, your post contains many statements not supportable by facts as known.

sanjeevn on October 21, 2011 at 1:49 PM

ANYone who’s never going to change their mind on something strikes me as a horrible way to be. I like bend but don’t break, and Romney’s ideas TODAY (which is what really matters) are where they need to be. It’s not like he’s changed ALL of his stances, and look at Perry… He used to be a Democrat for crying out loud. HE changed his mind on some things just like Romney has.

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 1:10 PM

He changed on abortion, gun rights, global warming. He has however defended the state providing health care for all. None of this should make a conservative feel very confident that they can trust that the Romney of 2013 will govern as the Romney of 2011-12.

Reagan was a Democrat. It was the only show in town in the south when Perry started his career. Perry has always been a conservative. Romney has only been a conservative for maybe 5 years.

Bill C on October 21, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Just FYI: National Journal gave the Romney team a chance to respond to this story, and they haven’t after almost 24 hours. No one on Team Romney seems interested in disputing it. They may later, and if they do, I’ll include the denial in an update.

Ed Morrissey on October 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM

What the Eff is wrong with you? Don’t you realize that only their candidate can evolve his beliefs?

csdeven on October 21, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Changing your mind on some things is a sign of maturity. Changing most of your core beliefs at the same time you have decided to run for an office which requires a more conservative candidate is just unbelievable. Romney’s conversion to conservatism is too convenient(and alliterative) to ignore.

I know this is why you and the other Mittbots spend so much time on in-state tuition for the children of illegals and gardisil but those problems are so much smaller than being pro-choice for most of your life, or implementing carbon controls on industry, or hiring leftist loons to design socialized medicine for your state. I just hope that conservatives can decide on a candidate before it is too late.

Bill C on October 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM

cartooner on October 21, 2011 at 1:29 PM

So he’s still evolving.

I know I’ll be pilloried for this but AGW IS a reality though cartooner.

Facts are facts cartooner and fires create warmth, car engines create warmth, burning coal creates warmth, igniting nuclear reactors creates warmth. the electricity that these plants produce is used to create more warmth in people’s homes, etc…

Who/what starts fires primarily? Who/what designed and built car engines? Who/what built coal burning electric plants? Who designed and built nuclear reactors?

There are all manner of examples of humans CONTRIBUTING to the overall warming of this planet.

Back in 1900 we only had about a billion people on the planet creating engines, burning coal, etc. We NOW have over 7 billion (granted not all doing these things), but to say that humans are not contributing to the overall warming of this planet is hogwash.

We can argue about the extent of it, but it IS a reality.

As for the subsidies… That’s a another issue and I’m sure Mitt can change his mind on that topic if he speaks to the right people and learns more about it.

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Maybe that balances the anti-Romney 120+comment thread AP did not promote from the headlines a few days ago.

AnotherOpinion on October 21, 2011 at 2:00 PM

If we don’t have an economy/jobs and just a banana republic, you think that other stuff will count? Who was that who said, ‘I want a choice, not an echo chamber.’

DanaSmiles on October 21, 2011 at 2:04 PM

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Mitt Romney Buys CareerPolitician.com from Oversee.net

Mitt Romney’s campaign launched CareerPolitician.com this week to blast rival Rick Perry.

The seller? Oversee.net.

The domain name was originally registered at GoDaddy in 2007 by Tucson, Arizona company eFind. It landed in the portfolio of Oversee.net subsidiary Portfolio Brains the following year, and it held it until last month. In September it transferred back to GoDaddy under whois privacy.

Yes, whatcat … it appears … the Sep 8th date was the owner change + name servers change all rolled into one.

Ed, your post contains many statements not supportable by facts as known.

sanjeevn on October 21, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Actually the entire premise of the blog entry is wrong. But Ed caught the wrongness from the National Journal. As I said, I don’t expect 99% of bloggers to know much of anything about the business aspect of webstuff, they just write about things – and, as we see here, sometimes they get suckered into going with a fabricated non-story in the process. But what with HotAir’s own name ownership transfer not too long back, I expected that transaction would ring a warning bell in Ed’s mind on this. Unless, of course, there’s a story coming up of Salem Communication’s own amazing psychic experience in the 1995 registration of the HotAir domain name (by a previous owner). :D

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 2:08 PM

gatorturd isn’t interested in no stinkin’ facts.

cartooner on October 21, 2011 at 1:32 PM

you mom must be so proud of you

gatorboy on October 21, 2011 at 2:15 PM

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 2:00 PM

You’re AGW explanation is even more fantastic than the “scientific” one! I can’t wait to hear you explain a cooling trend.

cartooner on October 21, 2011 at 2:16 PM

So he’s still evolving.

I know I’ll be pilloried for this but AGW IS a reality though cartooner.

Facts are facts cartooner and fires create warmth, car engines create warmth, burning coal creates warmth, igniting nuclear reactors creates warmth. the electricity that these plants produce is used to create more warmth in people’s homes, etc…

Who/what starts fires primarily? Who/what designed and built car engines? Who/what built coal burning electric plants? Who designed and built nuclear reactors?

There are all manner of examples of humans CONTRIBUTING to the overall warming of this planet.

Back in 1900 we only had about a billion people on the planet creating engines, burning coal, etc. We NOW have over 7 billion (granted not all doing these things), but to say that humans are not contributing to the overall warming of this planet is hogwash.

We can argue about the extent of it, but it IS a reality.

As for the subsidies… That’s a another issue and I’m sure Mitt can change his mind on that topic if he speaks to the right people and learns more about it.

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Now I see why you support Romney. You are a liberal. Nothing wrong with that but you have a party that believes in anthropogenic global warming.

Romney is not a conservative and neither are his supporters. So Cain, Perry, Gingrich, Palin, Santorum, and Bachmann supporters…we have to make keeping Romney from winning the nomination a priority. It is more important than which of our favorite candidates wins.

Bill C on October 21, 2011 at 2:17 PM

Now I see why you support Romney. You are a liberal. Nothing wrong with that but you have a party that believes in anthropogenic global warming.

Romney is not a conservative and neither are his supporters. So Cain, Perry, Gingrich, Palin, Santorum, and Bachmann supporters…we have to make keeping Romney from winning the nomination a priority. It is more important than which of our favorite candidates wins.

Bill C on October 21, 2011 at 2:17 PM

That sums it up pretty much.

cartooner on October 21, 2011 at 2:22 PM

Why would Romney respond to this. Its a non-story even if it were true.

swamp_yankee on October 21, 2011 at 2:23 PM

He changed on abortion, gun rights, global warming. He has however defended the state providing health care for all. None of this should make a conservative feel very confident that they can trust that the Romney of 2013 will govern as the Romney of 2011-12.

Reagan was a Democrat. It was the only show in town in the south when Perry started his career. Perry has always been a conservative. Romney has only been a conservative for maybe 5 years.

Bill C on October 21, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Did you ever think that maybe his REAL views are what he says today, and that back when he was Governor of the most Democratic state in the union he spoke a softer tone on them?

That maybe since he’s gotten out of Massachusetts as his exclusive place to campaign, that he’s met with thousands of people across the entire country that he’s discussed these issues with and that THEY maybe helped him to reshape his ideas on things?

That’s what politicians do man! They speak to their constituents and tend to mirror the wants and desires of their constituents. Since he’s running for national office now in as diverse a country as the US instead of running for office in ONE state that is dominated by Democratic ideals?

Look, if the people of Mass wanted universal healthcare, then a good politician gives them what they want. If that politician holds views counter to it and gives it to them anyway, maybe he’s doing it to let them learn that it doesn’t work.

Just like he said the other day about letting the markets crash, letting the markets correct themselves instead of being manipulated by the government to keep the status quo…

Sometimes you gotta get burned to learn, and the people of Massachusetts will hopefully learn that universal health care isn’t a viable option and that private sector control of healthcare is the best option available.

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 2:25 PM

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 2:08 PM

whatcat: I was trying to be diplomatic about it.

Ed Morrissey on October 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM

March 24th, 2007 : domain bout by Oversee.net
September 8th, 2011 : domain bought by Romney etc

Now read your own paragraph:

So the man criticizing Perry as a “career politician” has been holding the domain name for this particular attack for more than four years. In fact, the owner held it long before anyone thought of Perry as a potential contender. That sounds an awful lot like a man who spent the last four years running for President, does it not?

I’d bet that it was actually intended for Mike Huckabee, an opponent with whom Romney had feuded in a similar manner as Romney has with Perry.

The entire blog post fails.

sanjeevn on October 21, 2011 at 2:26 PM

Should take a look at Romney supporters.

When people like Bork, Issa, Flake, Grimm, Christie, Anuzis, Otter, Heineman, Talent, Bolling, McCotter, Pawlenty… are not conservative, the anti-Romney faction has jumped the shark.

swamp_yankee on October 21, 2011 at 2:31 PM

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 2:08 PM

whatcat: I was trying to be diplomatic about it.

Ed Morrissey on October 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM

March 24th, 2007 : domain bout by Oversee.net
September 8th, 2011 : domain bought by Romney etc

sanjeevn on October 21, 2011 at 2:26 PM

lol, yeah, I can get un-dimplomatic when I forget that most people know little, if anything, about how domains are bought/sold/transferred. But it’s like I sez, the HotAir domain name recently went through the very same selling process as Career Politician just did, so I’m – WTH didn’t anybody take notes during that?
:)

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 2:33 PM

we have to make keeping Romney from winning the nomination a priority. It is more important than which of our favorite candidates wins.

Bill C on October 21, 2011 at 2:17 PM

I agree. Highest priority. He’s a disaster in the making.

The Perry hit spot fiasco is a predictive microsom of any campaign against Obama. Romney gets rattled and riled in a debate over an issue he should have come to terms with and contrived a response for ages ago. Like all weak and insecure people, he over-reacts. Then he has to backtrack from the over-reaction. Pathetic all around.

If we can’t nominate a conservative, let’s at least nominate someone who knows hot to streetfight — because it will take nothing less against Obama.

rrpjr on October 21, 2011 at 2:39 PM

Bill C on October 21, 2011 at 2:17 PM

One can still be a conservative and know that humans do contribute to it.

We have 7 billion people on the planet today using a lot of electricity and burning a lot of carbon based fuels that contribute to warming… That’s a fact man.

Calling me a liberal isn’t going to change that fact.

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 2:41 PM

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Yes, especially Ed, who ran his own blog //captainsquartersblog.com redirects to HotAir.com.

Subtitle of the post: Irony of the day ;-)

sanjeevn on October 21, 2011 at 2:43 PM

As for what we should do about it… There is no need for draconian measures to our economies, we’ll eventually get off carbon based fuels if we don’t blow ourselves up or radiate ourselves to death first (reference of course to Chernobyl and Fukushima).

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 2:43 PM

Back in 1900 we only had about a billion people on the planet creating engines, burning coal, etc. We NOW have over 7 billion (granted not all doing these things), but to say that humans are not contributing to the overall warming of this planet is hogwash.

We can argue about the extent of it, but it IS a reality.

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Because 7 billion is really a lot. And they look so big standing next to you. And their buildings are even bigger. And some of their factories are positively massive. And the sun is just this small little circle in the sky. How could that little circle have as much to do with climate change as that huge mass of humanity?

And besides, the temperature of the earth was a constant BEFORE 1900, so it just has to be us.

Lily on October 21, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Lily on October 21, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Cute Lily,

Look, just accept the fact that we contribute to it. It won’t hurt you to admit it.

The real question is to the extent of it, but riddle me this… Why was the EPA first brought about?

Wasn’t it because we were polluting our cities to the point that it was hard to breath and we were starting to see more and more acidic rain falling on our heads?

Wasn’t that a result of rampant fossil fuel usage and pollution of the atmosphere? Who or what caused that?

Isn’t that us humans affecting the environment around us, and doesn’t that then mean that our car engines and coal plants were what caused it?

We CAN affect how this world goes. ESPECIALLY today when we have the technology that we now have, and if we’re not responsible in how we go about using our energy resources we will pollute ourselves to death or ultimately make the world less habitable.

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Bill C on October 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Who cares what other candidates change on? The issue was Perry and how his worshipers allow him to do it yet excoriate other candidates for it. And if you think being a democrat isn’t a core value, you’re just not being honest.

csdeven on October 21, 2011 at 3:14 PM

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 2:33 PM
Yes, especially Ed, who ran his own blog //captainsquartersblog.com redirects to HotAir.com.
Subtitle of the post: Irony of the day ;-)
sanjeevn on October 21, 2011 at 2:43 PM

Ha! But maybe Ed didn’t have much to do with that site’s day to day maintenance, either. One of the reasons I suspect inexperience in the specific area we’re talking about is this:

As more of an aside, does Romney really use GoDaddy for his website needs? Has anyone on Team Romney watched their softporn advertising? Way to woo the family-values vote, guys.

That’s so embarrassing. GoDaddy is not only by far the world’s top domain name registrar, it’s also as ubiquitous as all get out. All sorts of religious groups and “family value” groups use it. If the Amish had an official site, they would likely use GoDaddy, lol. It’s the McDonalds of name registrars. If a person isn’t aware of those facts, then he’s not all that knowledgeable on webby stuff.

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 3:20 PM

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 2:25 PM

Dude, your guy Mittens is one evolving homo erectus! He may even evolve into totally different positions he held in the first debate! Gotta respect a seasoned non-politician like Citizen Romney who can “grow” on the campaign trail. You just know these are all principled, well thought out position changes coming from such a distinguished investment banker.

cartooner on October 21, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Watching Perry beat up Romney and Romney beat up Perry is Herman Cain’s favorite entertainment. Thanks guys.

jimw on October 21, 2011 at 3:37 PM

That’s so embarrassing. GoDaddy is not only by far the world’s top domain name registrar, it’s …

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Exactly what you said.

I just chalked up the GoDaddy complaint to the “Eeek, company advertises product with b00bies! … so, let’s pander to the HotAir social conservatives for some blog comments” formula.

sanjeevn on October 21, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Ed, your post contains many statements not supportable by facts as known.

sanjeevn on October 21, 2011 at 1:49 PM

This seems to be becoming a general problem at Hotair of late.

It’s sad to witness.

Jason Coleman on October 21, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Ward Cleaver on October 21, 2011 at 11:59 AM

Thanks for posting that. Nice background info.

bluefox on October 21, 2011 at 4:08 PM

I just chalked up the GoDaddy complaint to the “Eeek, company advertises product with b00bies! … so, let’s pander to the HotAir social conservatives for some blog comments” formula.
sanjeevn on October 21, 2011 at 3:38 PM

If people were to avoid any site that had any sort of “sexy” advertising the internet would stop altogether. There are ads on Yahoo that will give the faint-hearted the vapors. But for particularly sensitive, if they so desire, there’s all sorts of nanny software to serve as a censor for browsing.

And, yeah, that was indeed one of the biggest reaches for “I’m outraged, too!” comments that I’ve seen on HA for a while. :D

whatcat on October 21, 2011 at 4:09 PM

We CAN affect how this world goes. ESPECIALLY today when we have the technology that we now have, and if we’re not responsible in how we go about using our energy resources we will pollute ourselves to death or ultimately make the world less habitable.

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Of course we can pollute, make a mess, and kill animals and other living things. Humans have demonstrated that quite effectively over the years.

What we haven’t demonstrated is that we can change the climate of the planet we are living on.

Which is why the warmists have to falsify data, hide the decline, call carbon a pollutant, and otherwise make things up.

Lily on October 21, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Did you ever think that maybe his REAL views are what he says today, and that back when he was Governor of the most Democratic state in the union he spoke a softer tone on them?

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 2:25 PM

No I don’t. And if you want to see how ingrained his view are just look at his parents. His father flip flopped on the Vietnam war.

Bill C on October 21, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Who cares what other candidates change on? The issue was Perry and how his worshipers allow him to do it yet excoriate other candidates for it. And if you think being a democrat isn’t a core value, you’re just not being honest.

csdeven on October 21, 2011 at 3:14 PM

When it comes to honestly evaluating a candidates record you have to look at their actions first. Romney has been liberal on more issues than any other Republican candidate for president in this cycle. It really is petty to talk about Cain, Perry, Gingrich, etc. being liberal because of a gaffe or even being on the wrong side on one position.

This is why there is one thing that all of us except the Mittbots agree on, Mittens must not win the nomination.

Bill C on October 21, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Bill C on October 21, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Perry was on Gore’s campaign staff!

Hahahahaha!! Spare us the hypocrisy!

csdeven on October 21, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Well now, I have noticed mostly the opposite. Its getting like the Palin threads. Rabid Romney supporters flood every Perry thread and inject their mostly discredited anti-Perry rants into every other thread. And that’s ignoring your little jab at Perry supporters at the end of the quoted post. If you want to take on a rabid Perry supporting nutball, by all means go right ahead. I don’t want to deny anybody the enjoyment of outing any nutball. It’s fun.

cozmo on October 21, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Considering that many of the most dedicated Palin bashers were Romney supporters, I’d say that’s true. Now they have to move on to other targets.

Interesting that some of the first Republicans to start attacking Palin before the election was even over were big Romney supporters, too.

Yes, Romney has been running for president for years, and he brings a lot of energy and planning to it. Nothing wrong with that. But there’s a lot more to finding a good choice for president than ambition, purpose, and planning.

There Goes The Neighborhood on October 21, 2011 at 6:05 PM

RedLizard64 on October 21, 2011 at 12:21 PM

1. get my nom off the list because I told you the other day that I am for none, just watching a few

2. quit stalking people on HA

3. if you’re out of things to occupy you with, join the 99rs.

4. what you do/did is creepy on any bord

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2011 at 1:03 PM

I completely understand if you want your name off the list. But it’s hardly “stalking people” or “creepy.” I imagine most people who spend much time on Hot Air pay attention to such things and keep track of who supports who in the back of their minds.

There Goes The Neighborhood on October 21, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Has it NOT occurred to you that people EVOLVE their thinking on things?

Are you saying that you can never change a stance on something ever?

You can try hard to characterize it as political expedience all you like but I LIKE the fact that he can learn from his mistakes and change his mind on things.

ANYone who’s never going to change their mind on something strikes me as a horrible way to be. I like bend but don’t break, and Romney’s ideas TODAY (which is what really matters) are where they need to be. It’s not like he’s changed ALL of his stances, and look at Perry… He used to be a Democrat for crying out loud. HE changed his mind on some things just like Romney has.

SauerKraut537 on October 21, 2011 at 1:10 PM

I bought that argument in 2008, mostly. By now, it’s quite clear he was really just pretending to be conservative when he thought it would position him well in the primaries. This year, he thinks its better to be less conservative. Even politicians should have some principles they don’t abandon at a moment’s calculation.

There Goes The Neighborhood on October 21, 2011 at 6:11 PM

RedLizard64 on October 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM

Wow. Obsess much? Why do you care who any of these people support?

To our HA crew….to see exactly how deep his obsession is, I suggest we all email this obsessive person with a change in our desired candidate each day.

csdeven on October 21, 2011 at 1:30 PM

What’s funny is, when I said in a previous post that RedLizard64′s post was not especially creepy or stalking people, I nearly added, “any more than responding to a csdeven post is “obsessing” about him.” I should have left that part in.

There Goes The Neighborhood on October 21, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Did Romney purchase the site from a name squatter on Sep 8?

{^_^}

herself on October 22, 2011 at 3:44 AM

Did Romney purchase the site from a name squatter on Sep 8?

{^_^}

herself on October 22, 2011 at 3:44 AM

Yes, exactly, that is what happened. All the good domain names are either already in use or have been purchased by squatters or domain brokers/speculators & put up for sale.

For example, RICKPERRY.COM is up for sale, it was created in 1998 and belongs to FABULOUS.COM PTY LTD.

Perry had to settle for a second tier domain, RICKPERRY.ORG, for his official site.

What makes it more even bizarrely ironic that Ed didn’t think to do even a minimal amount of factchecking on this story is that he wrote about how the Daily Caller bought Keith Olbermann’s dotcom name just to get Keith’s goat. (Great punking, by the way!)

whatcat on October 22, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Ed is bad at the internets.

Andrew D on October 22, 2011 at 3:11 PM

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