Hillary on Qaddafi: “We came, we saw, he died”

posted at 5:41 pm on October 20, 2011 by Allahpundit

I’m not one of those boo-hooing today over Qaddafi getting rough justice from people he terrorized for 40 years, but here’s a pro tip: Laughing your way through a “veni vidi vici” joke while the rest of the planet is wincing at this isn’t a classic demonstration of “smart power.” In fact, pretty much any joke about death while the deceased is bleeding from his head into the ground is probably a bad bet if you happen to be chief diplomat for the world’s greatest military power. If you want to send a “let that be a lesson to you” message, send it earnestly and tactfully. As it is, if this had been Dubya instead of the Democrats’ heir apparent, the outrageous outrage would shake the very ground we trod upon.

In fairness to Hillary, though, the left’s newfound hawkish glee isn’t limited to her. Timothy Carney’s keeping an eye on Twitter:

Pictured here is a tweet from liberal blogger Markos, of the Daily Kos. It reads: “GOPers who criticized Obama’s approach in Libya … wrong again.”

The implication: If you objected to the President for illegally entering a war where vital U.S. interests were not at stake, you were wrong, because we killed Gadafhi. More briefly: Might makes right.

The liberal Center for American Progress made the same unliberal argument in August when Gadhafi lost control of the country, asking on twitter: “Does John Boehner still believe U.S. military operations in Libya are illegal?”…

Aside from the legal question, there’s the nation-building question. Kos and CAP have effectively shouted “Mission Accomplished” and flippantly dismiss the notion that a power vaccuum in Libya might help the terrorists or mire the U.S. in an ugly long-term engagement.

Precisely. It’s one thing to say “I’m glad he’s dead” or “he had it coming,” it’s another to claim that the ends justified the means when the means involved Obama ignoring not just the Pentagon’s lawyers but his own. Weren’t Kos and CAP once among the noisiest members of the anti-war crowd, forever reminding Bush of his own premature celebration when Baghdad fell and Saddam was captured? Don’t they know what’s likely to happen in Libya in the aftermath? Oh well. We came, we saw, he died!

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Last minutes of Qaddafi video all over the news here in China this morning.

DarkCurrent on October 20, 2011 at 7:11 PM

The reaction I had watching this particular round of Libyan barbarism was not a cackle. It was a shudder. Because what replaces these vile dictators will be also be vile and possibly, probably worse. A frightening glimpse of what’s to come.

Urban Infidel on October 20, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Aren’t they obligated to go and kill the other evil leaders around the world now, or do we first have to convince the leader to disarm before it’s safe to assassinate him?

Buddahpundit on October 20, 2011 at 6:21 PM

The Queen better write that “thank you” note for the iPod

katy the mean old lady on October 20, 2011 at 7:16 PM

What I disagree with is the idea that Hillary did anything wrong in the substance of her conduct. She’s a hypocrite for doing what she criticized other for doing. She isn’t wrong for celebrating his death but for her hypocrisy.

sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 6:29 PM

She’s the fvcking SECRETARY OF STATE! It’s supposed to be a diplomatic postion. Not anymore.

katy the mean old lady on October 20, 2011 at 7:20 PM

I think Hillary Clinton is a Ghostbusters fan.

SoulGlo on October 20, 2011 at 7:21 PM

Pictured here is a tweet from liberal blogger Markos, of the Daily Kos. It reads: “GOPers who criticized Obama’s approach in Libya … wrong again.”

This stuff is *priceless*.

These clueless a$$hats are completely oblivious to the fact that they are on public display with their hypocrisy out there for all to see.

It’s both pathetic and hilarious at the same time to see these folks who were foaming at the mouth about what a war criminal Bush was, now turn around and thump Obama and themselves on the back about how great this scenario is.

Where are the hundreds of thousands of hand-wringers all over the world who turned out to protest in the streets against that evil conservative US president not so very long ago? Remember how mad they were that the US had attacked a country that hadn’t attacked it first? Without getting a war declaration? Ostensibly to protect an oil supply (Iraq was for us, Libya is for Europe; I guess that’s better?). “Nation building” was terrible? Ousting a national leader like that was an awful thing? What kind of mess would be left in it’s wake?

Good heavens, where are these protesting denizens of virtue tonight? roflmao

Midas on October 20, 2011 at 7:30 PM

She’s the fvcking SECRETARY OF STATE! It’s supposed to be a diplomatic postion. Not anymore.

katy the mean old lady on October 20, 2011 at 7:20 PM

There’s more to diplomacy than just groveling. I know that is what we have become used to over the years but it really does involve more than that.

sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Fat, pampered, corrupt, political elite ruling class cackling at death she pushed for while hiding behind the scenes…

Seven Percent Solution on October 20, 2011 at 7:32 PM

There’s more to diplomacy than just groveling. I know that is what we have become used to over the years but it really does involve more than that.

sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 7:31 PM

The word you may be searching for is dignity.

katy the mean old lady on October 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3877174,00.html

If I were the guys at World Net Daily I’d be feeling a little nervous. No one calls Barack Obama a Muslim and gets away with it.

Lawdawg86 on October 20, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Soooooo, the terrorists get a trial in New York, but Gadafhi gets hauled out and shot huh? And that’s great, is it?

Wonder what Gadafhi knew?

gordo on October 20, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Weren’t Kos and CAP once among the noisiest members of the anti-war crowd, forever reminding Bush of his own premature celebration when Baghdad fell and Saddam was captured?

They aren’t bothered by hypocrisy. Matter of fact, they don’t even notice it.

GarandFan on October 20, 2011 at 7:43 PM

The word you may be searching for is dignity.

katy the mean old lady on October 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Actually its fear. They should fear us, rather than us fearing them. I see post after post worrying what others will think, what the terrorists might do, about cocktail party opinions.

They should be the ones who worry. They should be the ones on the defensive, not us.

sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Can you say … Chicken Hawks? But these chicken hawks are the chickenest chicken hawks since the invention of the concept. These are NancyBoy liberal chicken hawks and … chicks.

Jaibones on October 20, 2011 at 7:54 PM

She’s becoming quite the little chub, isn’t she. Did she mention that the “we came” part required the Weird Sisters to drag their commander along kicking and screaming?

SukieTawdry on October 20, 2011 at 8:05 PM

I can’t imagine Condi behaving like that.

ctmom on October 20, 2011 at 8:06 PM

I can’t imagine Condi behaving like that.

ctmom on October 20, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Excellent contrast.

DarkCurrent on October 20, 2011 at 8:14 PM

And the snarking about Herman Cain was beyond the pale. I wish Kharzi had thrown in “So how is Monica Lewinsky doing these days?”

ctmom on October 20, 2011 at 8:16 PM

I can’t imagine Condi behaving like that.

ctmom on October 20, 2011 at 8:06 PM

No, Condoleezza Rice was very gracious and even tempered when she handed the election in Gaza to Hamas.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice also put on a brave face, saying “we still have every reason for hope and for optimism” because voter turnout was high and free from violence. She said the Palestinian people were “expressing their desire for change,” because they “have endured governance that was, by all accounts, not meeting their needs.”

sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 8:18 PM

I can’t imagine Condi behaving like that.

ctmom on October 20, 2011 at 8:06 PM

I agree!..Condi has way more class than Hillary!..:)

Dire Straits on October 20, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Urban Infidel on October 20, 2011 at 7:15 PM

I agree. One should shudder and not rejoice at such an ignominious death. Funny, the video reminds me, of all things, of the end of The Lion King, where Scar is done in by the hyenas. Scar was conniving and nasty and not to be missed, but the hyenas afterwards are still, well, hyenas…

bandarlog on October 20, 2011 at 8:28 PM

I saw the film footage of the people who had Gadaffi in custody and they were acting like crazed bloodthirsty savages as they tortured and humiliated him in his final moments of life. And now we are supposed to believe that almost overnight, because Gadaffi is dead – or should I say because he was brutally murdered by a mob – that the sun will rise tomorrow on a democratic Libya where people will desire peace and will demonstrate respect for the law and human rights. The only law that the people I saw in that film footage recognize is the law of the jungle. Libya is to a great extent a tribal society. As Ralph Peters notes in his latest book “Lines of Fire:”Around much of the world, the tribe, once banished from the liberal vocabulary , has returned with a vengeance. It is mankind’s basic killing organization.” (pg. 87)

I fear that the bloodletting in Libya is far from over and that the vision of a peace-loving, democratic society based on law and respect for human rights is a distant dream that may never be realized. As despicable as Gadaffi was, an opportunity to demonstrate justice and respect for the law and human rights as the future path for the people of Libya was missed when Gadaffi was summarily executed instead of being taken into custody to be tried as was the case with Saddam Hussein. I also suspect that the Libyan people could have benfitted from the interrogation of Gadaffi as I am fairly certain that a tremendous amount of potentially useful information went to the grave with him.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 20, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Woah, what the hell happened to her figure? I guess she decided to take after her husband’s example and let go.

Geeze, can you imagine her being President and growing more and more overweight every day?

R. Waher on October 20, 2011 at 8:41 PM

As despicable as Gadaffi was, an opportunity to demonstrate justice and respect for the law and human rights as the future path for the people of Libya was missed when Gadaffi was summarily executed instead of being taken into custody to be tried as was the case with Saddam Hussein.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 20, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Did the arrest and trial of Saddam Hussein put Iraq on the road to a bright democratic future? It was the death of one Muslim Sultan in a far off land at the hands of rebel tribesman. There was in fact no lost opportunity here, because no opportunity ever existed. Democracy and the respect for human rights do not spring from dead ground.

We in the west believe in these things and that is why they exist here in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights did not create that respect, but are mere embodiments of what we believe.

Libya is a short boat trip across the sea to Europe where such rights are respected and yet they never adopted those beliefs. For hundreds of years they were exposed to those ideas and the result was absolutely nothing. One more dead Sultan on trial or executed in the street doesn’t mean a thing as far as that goes.

sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Wonderful… a bloated, giggling, leftist secretary of state reclined in an office chair joking about the death of a head of state by the islamists we installed to replace him – fundamental transformation on parade…

elfman on October 20, 2011 at 9:28 PM

I’m surprised that she is so callous about this after the nauseating scenes of Gaddafi’s last moments have been seen by just about the entire planet by now. This kind of language from Bush would have cause a massive upheaval and wave after wave of condemnation from MSNBC and the New York Times. The hypocrisy and doubles standard is just … wow.

MisterPundit on October 20, 2011 at 9:31 PM

I like her a little better for this. I see no reason that we shouldn’t be glad that this guy is dead and I also see no reason we should pretend we are sorry. He was an evil SOB and he died hard. Good!

sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 5:48 PM

She’s happy because the US “won” a war that was of no benefit to the US or the West, in fact, it was counter to their own best interests.

Which is the only kind of war Hillary and the rest of the left likes. It’s amazing how suddenly bloodthirsty these “nuanced and reasonable” lefties become in that sort of situation.

If that makes you like her better, more power to you. As far as I’m concerned it entirely consistent with her whole execrable political career.

By the way,, do you think that Hillary, Kos (if hew was old enough) and the rest of the left were cheering on Reagan when he took on Libya back in the 80′s, when Qaddaffi actually was a threat to US interests?

Of course they weren’t. And not just because it was a Republican doing the bombing.

Dreadnought on October 20, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Dreadnought on October 20, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Well said.

rrpjr on October 20, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Forgive me if someone else has already posted this…

President Bush’s remarks after Saddam was executed:

“In the United States, President George W. Bush made a statement, “Bringing Saddam Hussein to justice will not end the violence in Iraq, but it is an important milestone on Iraq’s course to becoming a democracy that can govern, sustain, and defend itself.”

Quite a difference.

JellyToast on October 20, 2011 at 10:33 PM

Was that her reaction when Saddam was hanging from a rope?

Saltysam on October 20, 2011 at 10:48 PM

I like her a little better for this. I see no reason that we shouldn’t be glad that this guy is dead and I also see no reason we should pretend we are sorry. He was an evil SOB and he died hard. Good!

sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 5:48 PM

You’re tunnel visioning.

There’s a wider perspective I think you’re ignoring.

Saltysam on October 20, 2011 at 10:51 PM

There’s a wider perspective I think you’re ignoring.

Saltysam on October 20, 2011 at 10:51 PM

I know she’s a hypocrite. She’s a leftist so that goes without saying and yes, its annoying that they are fine with these sorts of things when they are the ones wielding power and so outrageously outraged when others are conducting themselves in the exact same way.

Criticize her for her for that, but not for being glad he’s dead or stating it publically.

sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 11:11 PM

When you find yourself defending Hillary on pretty much anything, it’s time to stop and check yourself. She is classless and a complete disgrace as a Secretary of State.

Christien on October 20, 2011 at 11:47 PM

Evidently there were Executive Orders under Reagan (EO12333), Carter (EO12036) and Ford (EO11905) stating that “No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.”

I’m aware that Obama isn’t bound by Executive Orders, but it would be nice to know how many he’s flushed down the commode…just to keep track.

Abelard on October 20, 2011 at 11:59 PM

Skip tasteless, this is bloody stupid. The woman is asking for trouble. I’m not against taunting – in fact there is a place for it and I’ve done plenty – but why taunt people when there is no gain in doing so? What a dope. Likely it will be an innocent countryman that pays for her big mouth. What a buffoon. Even my wife is appalled and she leans toward being a dupe for these folks (opposites attract) despite her operational history.

Mason on October 21, 2011 at 12:12 AM

The reaction I had watching this particular round of Libyan barbarism was not a cackle. It was a shudder. Because what replaces these vile dictators will be also be vile and possibly, probably worse. A frightening glimpse of what’s to come.

Urban Infidel on October 20, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Agreed, who knows what’s next.

Kjeil on October 21, 2011 at 12:26 AM

In contrast to BJ’s ” She came, she saw, she got a cigar.

bayview on October 21, 2011 at 12:26 AM

vidi vici bitchy

DANEgerus on October 21, 2011 at 2:53 AM

I’m aware that Obama isn’t bound by Executive Orders, but it would be nice to know how many he’s flushed down the commode…just to keep track.

Abelard on October 20, 2011 at 11:59 PM

He’s bound by them until he issues his own countermanding or rescinding them.

Can he do that retroactively and be legal? That’s a question for the courts.

Jason Coleman on October 21, 2011 at 3:29 AM

There’s more to diplomacy than just groveling. I know that is what we have become used to over the years but it really does involve more than that.

sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 7:31 PM

This is unprofessional on her part considering the position she is in. Liberals truly do become their own stereotypes of Conservatives during times of conflict.

Daemonocracy on October 21, 2011 at 3:29 AM

This is unprofessional on her part considering the position she is in. Liberals truly do become their own stereotypes of Conservatives during times of conflict.

Daemonocracy on October 21, 2011 at 3:29 AM

Why is it wrong to celebrate taking out one of our enemies? I get the hypocrisy involved but that makes the hypocrisy wrong, not the action. The position she is in is one where she represents the US. She isn’t there to go to bat for foreigners, but the US.

We should celebrate victories and its healthy to do so. This endless hand-wringing that we might offend the sensibilities of Muslims, good decorum, or our European allies is nauseating. Its no wonder that our enemy thinks we’re wimps.

sharrukin on October 21, 2011 at 4:17 AM

He saw. She came. He lied.
Oh, wrong Clinton. nm

Ronnie on October 21, 2011 at 4:51 AM

Remember the good old days when liberals were outraged at government sanctioned assassinations?

Bevan on October 21, 2011 at 5:30 AM

So I take it this means the purpose of the mission wasn’t actually to protect civilians after all?

“Hillary lied, people died.”

/sarc

Bobbertsan on October 21, 2011 at 5:39 AM

Totally unprofessional.

Also, can someone PLEASE get a message to HRC? She needs to cut her hair into a style and get some volume to her hairdo. She’s looking very old. And don’t slam me for that comment. I am a woman and I can say that.

Oink on October 21, 2011 at 8:49 AM

We should celebrate victories and its healthy to do so. This endless hand-wringing that we might offend the sensibilities of Muslims, good decorum, or our European allies is nauseating. Its no wonder that our enemy thinks we’re wimps.

sharrukin on October 21, 2011 at 4:17 AM

We should celebrate OUR victories. However, this is not a victory for the US, NATO or the world. It is a victory for the Islamists who had the aid of a sympathetic Muslim American president. We will end up having to go in there for real because it will soon be a haven for the terrorists that Qaddafi was keeping in check so he could retain power…much like Mubarak in Egypt.

Sporty1946 on October 21, 2011 at 9:07 AM

By the way,, do you think that Hillary, Kos (if hew was old enough) and the rest of the left were cheering on Reagan when he took on Libya back in the 80′s, when Qaddaffi actually was a threat to US interests?

Of course they weren’t. And not just because it was a Republican doing the bombing.

Dreadnought on October 20, 2011 at 9:37 PM

If you’ve learned nothing else since 9/11, you should have learned that this is the ONLY reason they EVER protest war.

runawayyyy on October 21, 2011 at 10:26 AM

I don’t know why this idiot (Clinton) is trying to paraphrase Julius Caesar, but she looked pretty foolish doing so.

zoyclem on October 21, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Power in their hands is revolting.
Power in our hands is intoxicating.
Most transparent administration ever.
In the many unintended ways.

Kenosha Kid on October 21, 2011 at 11:36 AM

By the way,, do you think that Hillary, Kos (if hew was old enough) and the rest of the left were cheering on Reagan when he took on Libya back in the 80′s, when Qaddaffi actually was a threat to US interests?

Of course they weren’t. And not just because it was a Republican doing the bombing.

Dreadnought on October 20, 2011 at 9:37 PM

If you’ve learned nothing else since 9/11, you should have learned that this is the ONLY reason they EVER protest war.

runawayyyy on October 21, 2011 at 10:26 AM

No, there’s more to it than that.

It’s part of the reason but not the whole reason, and then only because for the last 40 years a Republican President is the only President likely to go to war to protect American lives and/or national interests.

What are the wars and interventions that the last three Democratic Presidents have started? Bosnia, Kosovo, Libya. Not protecting US interests.

That’s not a coincidence, and it points to deeper reasons why the left is so allergic to wars protecting American intersts, and so bloodthirsty enthusiastic when it comes to getting involved in wars where the US has no interest, or where, like this one, it actually runs counter to US interests.

Dreadnought on October 21, 2011 at 11:36 AM

Nice crowd we run with.

Rae on October 21, 2011 at 11:41 AM

Isn’t she a class act?

What a joke…

stacman on October 21, 2011 at 3:09 PM

As it is, if this had been Dubya instead of the Democrats’ heir apparent, the outrageous outrage would shake the very ground we trod upon.

Interestingly, when Arafat met his richly deserved and long overdue end, Bush just said “God rest his soul.” At it was pretty clear it wasn’t about tears for Arafat or any bleeding heart crap. Just a genuine humility based on his Christian belief that while we must judge people’s actions, and in many cases harm or even kill them because of those same actions, it’s the big man upstairs that gets to judge the soul. This is why we aren’t to dance on peoples’ graves.

RINO in Name Only on October 21, 2011 at 6:12 PM

You think Vince Foster is spinning in his grave?

Terp Mole on October 21, 2011 at 9:35 PM

but here’s a pro tip: Laughing your way through a “veni vidi vici” joke while the rest of the planet is wincing at this isn’t a classic demonstration of “smart power.” – AP

My first reaction was for the hubris of mocking Julius Caesar’s boast of conquest (veni, vidi, vici)

What I disagree with is the idea that Hillary did anything wrong in the substance of her conduct. She’s a hypocrite for doing what she criticized other for doing. She isn’t wrong for celebrating his death but for her hypocrisy.
sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Maybe she was celebrating a boost in the polls

There’s more to diplomacy than just groveling. I know that is what we have become used to over the years but it really does involve more than that.

sharrukin on October 20, 2011 at 7:31 PM

The word you may be searching for is dignity.

katy the mean old lady on October 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Hil whooped her way into a corner and gave our nation no great advantage. Hand the lady a cigar

entagor on October 22, 2011 at 12:08 AM

A classy Democrat is a news-worthy thing, so this behavior is not unexpected. Remember her RFK assassination reverie during her election campaign? A dark soul indeed.

So, Madame Secretary, whacking heads of state is now policy?

She needs to get a job on “The View”.

virgo on October 22, 2011 at 6:42 PM

“For over a thousand years Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of triumph, a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeteers, musicians and strange animals from conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conquerors rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes his children robed in white stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting.”
- Gen. George C. Patton

Jocundus on October 23, 2011 at 8:53 AM

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