Chris Christie: OWS and the tea party come from the same perspective but want different solutions

posted at 5:45 pm on October 18, 2011 by Allahpundit

Via the Examiner. Philip Klein does a nice job rebutting him — how do tea-party individualism and OWS redistributionism constitute “the same perspective”? — but I can’t take this clip seriously enough to engage it on the merits. What you’re watching here is a blue-state governor in pander mode. He probably saw yesterday’s poll about New York City residents supporting OWS and deduced that a lot of left-leaning Jersey independents must feel the same way, so now he’s trying to thread the political needle by professing to feel the pain of populists on both sides. (He does say that he doesn’t agree with a lot of OWS’s solutions, whatever those might be.) It’s a transparent attempt at co-optation. OWS wants higher taxes on the wealthy and more regulation of the banks and tea partiers want less government spending and a lot less federal debt, but Christie somehow distills all of that into basic anger over weak leadership and hyperpartisan gridlock in D.C. Coincidentally, Christie’s own brand is built on … strong leadership and bipartisan solutions to his state’s budget crisis. So he’s using this question as a vehicle to toot his own horn (tacitly) while avoiding any attacks that might alienate the OWS sympathizers whose votes he needs. Cynical, but that’s retail politics for you.

Speaking of cynical panders aimed at independents, any other pols in the news today trying to co-opt Occupy Wall Street? Why, here’s one now:

“I understand the frustrations being expressed in those protests,” Obama told ABC News senior White House correspondent Jake Tapper in the interview to air this evening on ABC News “Nightline” from Jamestown, N.C.

“In some ways, they’re not that different from some of the protests that we saw coming from the Tea Party. Both on the left and the right, I think people feel separated from their government. They feel that their institutions aren’t looking out for them,” he said…

“The most important thing we can do right now is those of us in leadership letting people know that we understand their struggles and we are on their side, and that we want to set up a system in which hard work, responsibility, doing what you’re supposed to do, is rewarded,” Obama said. “And that people who are irresponsible, who are reckless, who don’t feel a sense of obligation to their communities and their companies and their workers that those folks aren’t rewarded.”

Follow the link to read his response when Jake Tapper asked him whether, just maybe, he should have paid more attention to unemployment instead of passing a gigantic, disastrous new health-care boondoggle instead. (My phrasing, of course, not Tapper’s.) His OWS answer here is strikingly similar to Christie’s, right down to the idea that, as the big guy put it, “government is not working for me anymore.” That’s not a perfect summation of either the tea party’s or OWS’s core message — tea partiers want the government working less and OWSers are first and foremost concerned with unaccountability on Wall Street — but it’s perfectly in tune with the gigantic majorities who think the country’s on the wrong track and that Congress simply reeks. So here’s The One using Tapper’s OWS question to feel those majorities’ pain, even though he’s a major cause of it. Exit quotation: “Most Wall Street guys, they feel like they’re going to be burned in effigy.”

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The premise is wrong.

Tea Party says they want less govt, govt is broken.

OWS says they are angry that Goldman Sachs CEO makes a lot of money. This has nothing to do with govt being broken. It has to do with selfish pricks who are jealous of others’ success.

angryed on October 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM

What do Chris Christie and Barack Obama have in common?

Neither will be president in 2013.

amerpundit on October 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM

OWS wants more government and the TP wants less. It’s a big effin difference,Rino

Blake on October 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM

He kinda reminds me of a heavier Mitt.

darwin on October 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Rino

clnurnberg on October 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM

President 2016

mythicknight on October 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM

President 2016

mythicknight on October 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM

What country?

darwin on October 18, 2011 at 5:50 PM

What a load of garbage.

kingsjester on October 18, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Bloom is off the rose, huh guys? We`ve been “Scott Browned.” :) Still, I`m glad he`s battling in New Jersey.

ThePrez on October 18, 2011 at 5:50 PM

“Most Wall Street guys, they feel like they’re going to be burned in effigy.”

I wonder where they would ever get that idea, don’t you President “I need to find out whose @ss to kick?”

Lily on October 18, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Ann Coulter suddenly develops an affinity for OWS morons.

darwin on October 18, 2011 at 5:50 PM

I wanted to wait for one of the Christie fan boys to explain how it’s not a big deal that he’s pandering just like Obama but have to go fix dinner for the family.

katiejane on October 18, 2011 at 5:51 PM

no, no, no, no

why christie….why????

cmsinaz on October 18, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Sigh. I remember when I used to fit in around here. I miss those days.

Red Cloud on October 18, 2011 at 5:51 PM

As Ace said, both groups hate crony capitalism. Its just that the OWS wants to ditch the capitalism. The TEA Party? The opposite.

catmman on October 18, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Christie and Cantor shared notes.

andy85719 on October 18, 2011 at 5:51 PM

He is loud,kinda like a protester, but he has never been conservative only a you tube sensation telling teachers that Jersey was broke.

tim c on October 18, 2011 at 5:52 PM

What do Chris Christie and Barack Obama have in common?

Neither will be president in 2013.

amerpundit on October 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Also, both don`t want to be President. O only wanted the cool plane and the bags of money from people he publicly demonizes.

ThePrez on October 18, 2011 at 5:52 PM

This is why blue state RINO’s are less than worthless to conservatism. They are Democrats in all but name.

sharrukin on October 18, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Rino

clnurnberg on October 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Incorrect.

nickj116 on October 18, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Shocking.

//

kg598301 on October 18, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Rino

clnurnberg on October 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Guy busts the balls of the unions in Jersey, doesn’t raise taxes, and is in the process of rescuing his state from fiscal calamity caused by Libs through the process of fiscal conservatism.

And yet he’s a RINO.

Amazing.

nickj116 on October 18, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Who still thinks Christie is the great conservative hope???? This is pathetic.

Dan Pet on October 18, 2011 at 5:55 PM

You’ve lost me, Rice Christie. Actually, you lost me when you endorsed Mittens and made excuses for the disaster known as Romneycare. But this is just the nail in the coffin. You know, there are many issues I didn’t agree with Christie on, but what I always respected about the dude is that he didn’t pander. It seemed like he was a straight-shooter. But I guess people who are truly like that are a rarity in politics.

Doughboy on October 18, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Anything that a blue state Republican says, he is not responsible for. They are a present dropped directly from GOP heaven, and must be worshiped.

-GOP Hierarchy

portlandon on October 18, 2011 at 5:56 PM

same perspective??

Right, except for the fact that they are two perspectives 180 degrees apart. Ann Coulter should fess up to her risible mistake as CC jumps the shark.

horatio on October 18, 2011 at 5:56 PM

I hope you’re enjoying this endorsement Mitt.

Knucklehead on October 18, 2011 at 5:56 PM

TEA: Less govt, less tax, more freedom. We will recruit candidates to run on our position and bring about change via the ballot box.

OWS: We want lots of free shit dude and if we don’t get it we’re gonna burn the mother fu**er down.

Yep, two sides of the same coin.

angryed on October 18, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Amazing.

nickj116 on October 18, 2011 at 5:54 PM

I’m shocked that you are shocked at what he said that was so shocking.

Christie is a Rino, and a very proud one. He wears it well to.

portlandon on October 18, 2011 at 5:58 PM

angryed on October 18, 2011 at 5:57 PM

+1

cmsinaz on October 18, 2011 at 5:59 PM

ROMNEY / CHRISTIE 2012!!!!
– David Frum

angryed on October 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Bull! What they’re saying is, “take our free enterprise system, our individual initiative, our capitalistic economy and everything else that has made America a great nation and trash it”. Those street bums are nothing but 60s hippies reincarnated and their goals are to parasite off of this country’s most productive citizens. Wake up, there’s not much time until you lose it all.

rplat on October 18, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Right, the OWS crowd wants more, more, more govt.
And, the Tea Party doesn’t want the govt to work for them at all – just get out of the way.
Not much common ground here.

MYounger on October 18, 2011 at 6:02 PM

I think he’s getting bigger. I’m not making fun of his weight, he’s heavier.

Oil Can on October 18, 2011 at 6:02 PM

After endorsing Romney, I thought Krispy Kreme would go back to governing his state.

CliffHanger on October 18, 2011 at 6:03 PM

They really don’t get it do they.

JellyToast on October 18, 2011 at 6:03 PM

I hope you’re enjoying this endorsement Mitt.

Knucklehead on October 18, 2011 at 5:56 PM

This could be our next VP

faraway on October 18, 2011 at 6:05 PM

The Tea Party and at least some of the OWS crowd do share a broad disgust with crony capitalism.

OWS is just blind to the fact that bigger government leads to more crony capitalism.

cool breeze on October 18, 2011 at 6:06 PM

This could be our next VP

faraway on October 18, 2011 at 6:05 PM

That’s what I’m afraid of. Hide your donuts and your guns.

Knucklehead on October 18, 2011 at 6:07 PM

“What you’re watching here is a blue-state governor in pander mode.”

Pretty much…

… and someone who never took the time to understand the TEA Party.

Seven Percent Solution on October 18, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Boy, Mitt is going to really win over the TEA Party by punching them in the face every other day.

portlandon on October 18, 2011 at 6:07 PM

OWS wants more government and the TP wants less. It’s a big effin difference,Rino

Blake on October 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM

He kinda reminds me of a heavier Mitt.

darwin on October 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Rino

clnurnberg on October 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM

..you guys need to get a grip; have a nice lie-down and you’ll feel better. Logic can be tortured all day long on this thing and it still comes back to people who are pissed off about their set of circumstances.

We here know that the OWS people are creepoids and the public are figuring this out quickly enough.

The War Planner on October 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM

The Tea Party and at least some of the OWS crowd do share a broad disgust with crony capitalism.

OWS is just blind to the fact that bigger government leads to more crony capitalism.

cool breeze on October 18, 2011 at 6:06 PM

..absolutemente correct-o, chefe!

The War Planner on October 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM

What you’re watching here is a blue-state governor in a blue state in pander mode.

FIFY.

xblade on October 18, 2011 at 6:16 PM

catmman: Heh. I’ll remember that one! That’s useful. :)

Scott H on October 18, 2011 at 6:16 PM

Sorry Chris. I just don’t share perspective with a bunch of anti-capitalist agitators who want the good life provided for them at the expense of someone who went out and earned it. I don’t share that perspective at all.

SAMinVA on October 18, 2011 at 6:17 PM

If you zoom out far enough, both groups are protesting because they think something is wrong.

So, there is that in common.

JadeNYU on October 18, 2011 at 6:18 PM

how do tea-party individualism and OWS redistributionism constitute “the same perspective”?

“The bail-out was wrong; the government now serves special interests rather than the public.” That’s the same place from which they come. Seriously; ask what the worst government wrong was of the last five years, and both groups will probably say, “The bail-out.” “Perspective” is a slippery word, because some are taking this to mean that they have the exact same point of view, but obviously they don’t, or else they wouldn’t “have different solutions.” But Christie’s imprecise language doesn’t mean his underlying point is invalid or a mere pander. To whom it pandering to compare two groups, most of whose members hate the other’s philosophy?

calbear on October 18, 2011 at 6:19 PM

Christie has jumped the shark. Wish this loudmouth would shut up for 5 minutes.

therightwinger on October 18, 2011 at 6:20 PM

I sort of agree with Cannon, I think we should behead bankers and do away with money, you know, like the OWS.

Bishop on October 18, 2011 at 6:20 PM

It’s a stupid comparison…a cat and a dog both have 4 legs and are domesticated…they are not the same.
A car and a bike are both transportation and deliver people…they are not the same.
A cumulus cloud and an atom bomb cloud are both clouds, but not the same.
….and finally, Rev. Billy Graham and Rev. Jessie Jackson, are both reverends, but not the same.
The Tea Party, and OWS, are a group of people, but not the same…and no the reasons are not the same.

right2bright on October 18, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Boy, Mitt is going to really win over the TEA Party by punching them in the face every other day.

portlandon on October 18, 2011 at 6:07 PM

He doesn’t have to worry. The biggest part of a huge majority of the Tea Party folks are exceptionally wise and practical. When faced with Obama or Romney, they’ll vote Romney because he is the most electable candidate that is closest to their values even though he isn’t much better than Obama in a few areas.

csdeven on October 18, 2011 at 6:21 PM

calbear on October 18, 2011 at 6:19 PM

OWS wants to destroy capitalism and replace it with communism. TEA wants to lessen govt spending and allow capitalism to flourish.

In what universe are these two groups on the same page? You’re not comparing apples to oranges. You’re comparing apples to 747s.

angryed on October 18, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Poor Christie. He’s so caught up in what the NY Times editorial writers think — and think of him — he’s missed the latest survey reporting the OWS crowd to be hardcore leftists totally at odds with the mainstream American “perspective.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

rrpjr on October 18, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Christie has jumped the shark. Wish this loudmouth would shut up for 5 minutes.

therightwinger on October 18, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Jumped? I think he ate it…

right2bright on October 18, 2011 at 6:22 PM

The War Planner on October 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM

You need to take your meds.

Blake on October 18, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Game over, Bud. I’m tired of the “Try to get along/Compromise” BS. Winners don’t compromise. Period. Ms. Coulter, remain calm. The loud popping sound that you are about to hear is your head being removed from your fifth point of contact.

Sam_I_Am on October 18, 2011 at 6:24 PM

“The bail-out was wrong; the government now serves special interests rather than the public.” That’s the same place from which they come.

No, it really isn’t. Tea partiers oppose bailouts in all their forms. OWS loves bailouts, they simply want the middle class bailed out (via student loan forgiveness, a foreclosure moratorium, etc.) instead of Wall Street. Totally different perspectives. Read Klein’s post for more.

Allahpundit on October 18, 2011 at 6:25 PM

Easier to pander when the OWS crowd is not around the financial offices in Jersey City. Christie doesn’t see being tough here helping him politically, so in his mind, why bother?

jon1979 on October 18, 2011 at 6:26 PM

You need to take your meds.

Blake on October 18, 2011 at 6:22 PM

..I did; that’s what’s really scary!

Booga! Booga!

The War Planner on October 18, 2011 at 6:27 PM

These ridiculous Republicans will never, ever get it. We just want to be left alone, free to live our lives without their interferance.

BetseyRoss on October 18, 2011 at 6:30 PM

catmman, War Planner, calbear,

I suspect that if some Tea Party people engaged locally with more open minded newcomers at Occupy events they could divert a significant amount of that energy into our issues. It is not that big a leap to realize “Government is not the solution to our problem, government IS the problem.”

I hope someone is trying.

cool breeze on October 18, 2011 at 6:38 PM

President 2016

mythicknight on October 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Gov. Fatass is going to beat a sitting GOP incumbent? Really?

pdigaudio on October 18, 2011 at 6:42 PM

These ridiculous Republicans will never, ever get it. We just want to be left alone, free to live our lives without their interferance.

BetseyRoss on October 18, 2011 at 6:30 PM

The Cocktail Party GOP loves big government. They just want to be the ones running it.

pdigaudio on October 18, 2011 at 6:44 PM

I suspect that if some Tea Party people engaged locally with more open minded newcomers at Occupy events they could divert a significant amount of that energy into our issues. It is not that big a leap to realize

YGBSM. What in the hell do TEA partiers have in common with deadbeat OW?’s?

Dingbat63 on October 18, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Chris Christie looks like Ben Stiller in the closing scene from Dodgeball.

Seriously – dude is fat as a hog.

HondaV65 on October 18, 2011 at 6:46 PM

What in the hell do TEA partiers have in common with deadbeat OW?’s?

Dingbat63 on October 18, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Other than breathing oxygen, nothing. And then I am still not sure.

pdigaudio on October 18, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Sorry, but I’ve never been all that thrilled with NJ Gov, except when he took on the state education unions…

Let’s see if he gets reelected before anyone anoits him POTUS or VPOTUS…

Khun Joe on October 18, 2011 at 6:49 PM

As Ace said, both groups hate crony capitalism. Its just that the OWS wants to ditch the capitalism. The TEA Party? The Cronies The opposite.

catmman on October 18, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Tweaked it just a bit.

txmomof6 on October 18, 2011 at 6:53 PM

“Most Wall Street guys, they feel like they’re going to be burned in effigy.”

I wonder where they would ever get that idea, don’t you President “I need to find out whose @ss to kick?”
Lily on October 18, 2011 at 5:50 PM

I’m the only thing standing between you and the pitchforks.

Buy Danish on October 18, 2011 at 6:54 PM

feel the pain of populists on both sides

Does “populist” have any meaning left when it’s applied turnkey style to both pro-small government constitutionalists AND pro-big government nanny staters? If we’re all unwashed miserable rabble on both sides, what’s the point?

Western_Civ on October 18, 2011 at 6:58 PM

YGBSM. What in the hell do TEA partiers have in common with deadbeat OW?’s?

Dingbat63 on October 18, 2011 at 6:45 PM

The hard core organizers of OWS? Nothing.

But I do think the fawning media attention to OWS is attracting some curious newcomers whose more vague dissatisfaction with the current state of affairs could be re-channeled into the Tea Party perspective.

cool breeze on October 18, 2011 at 7:02 PM

“The bail-out was wrong; the government now serves special interests rather than the public.” That’s the same place from which they come.

No, it really isn’t. Tea partiers oppose bailouts in all their forms. OWS loves bailouts, they simply want the middle class bailed out (via student loan forgiveness, a foreclosure moratorium, etc.) instead of Wall Street. Totally different perspectives. Read Klein’s post for more.

Allahpundit on October 18, 2011 at 6:25 PM

AP hits the nail on the head. The occupiers have no problem with bailouts – for themselves. I suspect that a lot of them, if not most of them, are bailed out every day.

Basilsbest on October 18, 2011 at 7:03 PM

In my family I used to call the three older kids, the Bigs and the three younger ones the Littles as an easy shorthand way to refer to them because they had similar age related abilities at the time. Both the Tea Party and OWS are against the Bigs and in favor of the Littles, it is just that the Bigs are different: Big Government vs. Big Business. The Littles are individuals or small business owners who want to be left alone to run their lives. However, some want to live their lives as the grasshopper and some want to live their lives as the ant. The problem comes when the grasshopper refuses to live with his poor choices and gets the Bigs to force the Ant to enable the grasshopper’s poor choices.

txmomof6 on October 18, 2011 at 7:04 PM

bloom died in the reentry

tarpon on October 18, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Yeah, one group is the industrious group, called the Producers. They build stuff, create new things and work their butts off to support themselves and their families. They contribute time and money to charity.

The other is the group is the hard core redistributionists who want their advanced degrees in transgender anthropology paid for by the Producers, along with “a living wage regardless of employment status”, health care, pensions and other cool free stuff. They also want a lot of other cool free stuff for other non-Producers. We call them the Parasites.

obladioblada on October 18, 2011 at 7:20 PM

And if he hadn’t already, Christie now removes all doubt.

Yep…he and mittens are down with the struggle. Hip to the whole Tea thingy…..

Mitt came in second against the last Repub to lose against the worst POTUS in history. Second. Obama will eat his f’ing lunch.

I am done holding my breath and voting for the lesser of evils.

I will not vote for Romney. NO FREAKING WAY.

Talon on October 18, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Here’s Allah, whipping up another wave of idiocratic nut-spasms.

Christie obviously has a point, but since it’s a point that threatens your identity to the core, you’re reverting to tried-and-tested snot-logic. Fat Man wasn’t saying the baggers and OWS were getting married, did he?

Whip the pig.

bifidis on October 18, 2011 at 7:34 PM

He doesn’t have to worry. The biggest part of a huge majority of the Tea Party folks are exceptionally wise and practical. When faced with Obama or Romney, they’ll vote Romney because he is the most electable candidate that is closest to their values even though he isn’t much better than Obama in a few areas.

csdeven on October 18, 2011 at 6:21 PM

And unless and until Romney secures the nomination, I’m going to do everything in my power as a citizen to ensure that Romney DOES NOT secure the nomination. Any questions?

gryphon202 on October 18, 2011 at 7:36 PM

All politicians will disappoint one way or another and can’t help but put their feet in their mouths. It’s time to say NO to so called moderates and RINO’s and NO to professional politicians. Dam*n them all for riding the country into the ground for personal and political gain.

ultracon on October 18, 2011 at 7:37 PM

OWS’ COMMUNIST MANIFESTO–as decided by 800 COMRADES at the ‘GENERAL ASSEMBLY.’

http://stevebeckow.com/2011/10/get-ready-for-this-one-the-99-percent-declaration/

Thank God Chris Christie decided not to run. The man has proven himself conclusively to be a cheap panderer. Aren’t you proud Ann, that you publicly shilled for this…..SHILL?

mountainaires on October 18, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Gov. Fatass is going to beat a sitting GOP incumbent? Really?

pdigaudio on October 18, 2011 at 6:42 PM

He’s going to eat a sitting incumbent? That’s barbaric. Seriously, this is why I’m not supporting Mitt Romney. I don’t excuse this kind of stupidity. He’s comparing the tea party to a bunch of human garbage looking for a handout and trying to wheeze themselves into riot mode. Yes, I get that he’s pandering, he just doesn’t need to. It was a stupid thing to say and I look forward to punishing Mitt Romney for it should our base be stupid enough to nominate him.

austinnelly on October 18, 2011 at 8:04 PM

The Christie hard on has gone down, so now we know that he’s just a blue state panderer instead of a great guy who tells it like it is. Wtg, Allah! What a difference a day makes!

SilentWatcher on October 18, 2011 at 8:09 PM

If you don’t like the man fine. Keep in mind who the enemy is.

When I lurk at a liberal site my favorite times are when they eat their own. Don’t be like them. Respectfully disagree and leave it at that.

GardenGnome on October 18, 2011 at 8:11 PM

I don’t give a rat’s a$$ what some of you political science intellectuals have to say.

Mr. Cain has done things and made jobs. He is an entrepreneur. I like the guy. If the vote was today, he’s got mine. Nov 2012, I’ll vote for anyone, other than Obumba.

Dingbat63 on October 18, 2011 at 9:44 PM

Chris Christie: OWS and the tea party come from the same perspective but want different solutions

Yea, they both want your kind out. More deep thoughts from Chris Christie…

elfman on October 18, 2011 at 10:33 PM

What you’re watching here is a blue-state governor in pander mode.

What conservatives don’t need is some fat, pandering RINO nitwit. Sod off, Swampy.

Jaibones on October 18, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Chris Christie is a liberal dumbass…. why anyone is fooled by this guy really surprises me.

roux on October 18, 2011 at 11:06 PM

LOL. All you so called conservatives know so little about the actual way the world works you don’t know he’s 100% right. You sit here preaching day after day looking down on the left for not understanding economics and yet you’re just as ignorant as they are.

bingsha on October 19, 2011 at 2:22 AM

Sorry but do you guys really not see the point he’s making? Its being said by many conservatives and libertarians. The connection the are talking about is how both the TP and OWS are angry about the govt. throwing trillions at banks and companies who should be left to collapse. As they all say, the groups want much different solutions and blame different people, but they still think the govt. shouldn’t give these people money.

This was the starting point for OWS with their Day of Rage, the message was about the bailouts going to huge bonuses, but when the people showed up they changed all that to redistribution and attack the rich.

Rbastid on October 19, 2011 at 2:52 AM

Amazing.

nickj116 on October 18, 2011 at 5:54 PM

You’re giving him way too much credit. Credit him for a minor improvement in New Jersey’s suicidal pension structure, and the resulting minor improvement in their budget deficit.

But he broke no one’s balls.

Christie is a Rino, and a very proud one. He wears it well to.

portlandon on October 18, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Christie is indisputably liberal on far too many issues to be considered a conservative. If that makes him a RINO in our shorthand, then he’s a major RINO. And a pandering fool on this issue.

Jaibones on October 19, 2011 at 8:09 AM

Christie is indisputably liberal on far too many issues to be considered a conservative. If that makes him a RINO in our shorthand, then he’s a major RINO. And a pandering fool on this issue.

Jaibones on October 19, 2011 at 8:09 AM

But…but…he’s an (R) and he argues with unionistas. Doesn’t that give him absolute moral authority over all Republicans?

SKYFOX on October 19, 2011 at 8:49 AM

This seems to mean that the shine is off Chris…OK by me.

Mr. Grump on October 19, 2011 at 9:07 AM

RINOS are mentally impaired because they have a difficult time knowing the difference between compromising with food vendors or rat poison vendors.

Egfrow on October 19, 2011 at 2:57 PM