Rasmussen: Cain 43, Obama 41

posted at 12:45 pm on October 17, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Is Herman Cain electable?  As he keeps the nation’s attention on his unorthodox run for the Republican presidential nomination, Cain has begun to show strength in general-election polling at Rasmussen.  In today’s poll, he becomes only the second Republican to take a lead over Obama among likely voters in their surveys:

Whether Herman Cain’s surge in the polls is temporary or has staying power, he’s enjoying a big enough bounce to take a very slight lead over President Obama in a hypothetical 2012 matchup. At the moment, the Georgia businessman is the only Republican with a lead of any kind over Obama, although former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has held a similar advantage several times and is currently trailing the president by just two points.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely U.S. Voters shows Cain attracting 43% support, while Obama earns 41%. Given such a matchup, eight percent (8%) prefer some other candidate, and another eight percent (8%) are undecided.

According to Rasmussen, the only other Republican candidate to lead Obama in this series was Rick Perry, whose electability at the time was his greatest asset.  Perry has stumbled considerably since, dropping to 14 points back of Obama in a survey last week, 35/49.  Romney came close to Obama two weeks ago, trailing only 41/43.

In the crosstabs, Cain picks up support from voters 40 years and older, winning a 16-point majority among seniors (50/34), but losing 18-29YOs by almost the same margin (35/50) and narrowly losing thirtysomethings, 38/43.  Cain only gets 4% of the black vote, an outcome that should remind people that blacks vote with Democrats largely because they share their policy positions.  Cain wins a 21-point plurality among independents, 48/29, which should open a few eyes to the reality that regardless of political experience, people are looking for a genuine alternative to Obama.

Interestingly, all of the income demos give narrow splits.  Obama wins the under-$20K by only six points despite his recent class-warfare schtick, 39/45.  Cain wins every other income demo by six or fewer points, including a narrow 46/44 in the $100K+ demo.  Just as curiously, Obama only beats Cain among union households by a seven-point plurality (44/37), while Cain wins non-union households by an even narrower margin of 44/41.  Obama beats Cain among those who reject Tea Party affiliation, but only by fifteen points, 34/49.  Those who embrace the Tea Party support Cain head to head by 86/7, not surprisingly, while those who are not sure support Cain by 21 points, 48/27.

What does this tell us?  Cain seems to be gaining credibility as a candidate on the national stage.  That doesn’t necessarily address issues about his organization and his campaign strategy, but it does rebut the notion that no one would take Cain seriously as a nominee if he managed to win in the primaries.

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Racists—- all of them

dirtseller on October 17, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Me likey, however, I’m with el rushbo….it’s way too early to be doing a snoopy dance

cmsinaz on October 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM

This guy could very well be our nominee. I’m happy to see him polling so well.

And no I’m not jumping ship – I just want to make sure Obama gets ground into little pieces of dust come November 2012 by GOP candidate TBD.

gophergirl on October 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Gotta make clear foreign policy statements and sell the public – me included – on a national sales tax (though I would prefer getting rid of the income tax altogether)… otherwise, Cain looks good.

fiatboomer on October 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM

And the picture only gets worse for Øbama when your sample actually reflects how people will be voting in 2012.

UltimateBob on October 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM

With you GG :)

cmsinaz on October 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Cain is able! 2012!

bridgetown on October 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Liberal heads exploding into shards.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM

I like to see the next couple of debates.

Oil Can on October 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM

With you GG :)

cmsinaz on October 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Me to.

sandee on October 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM

I’m on Hermans’ bus.

tim c on October 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Book sales are good!

faraway on October 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM

I CAIN’t get excited but it’s schadenfreudig to watch the left, and the right, go nuts over him.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM

With you GG :)

cmsinaz on October 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM

I still think Perry is the best candidate and would be the best president but he might not pull it out.

If Cain does – I want him to be the strongest against Obama he can be.

gophergirl on October 17, 2011 at 12:52 PM

Perry is tied with Huntsman? Huntsman?

That’s going to leave a mark.

Go Cain!

Rebar on October 17, 2011 at 12:52 PM

Me to.

sandee on October 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Add me to the list.

VegasRick on October 17, 2011 at 12:53 PM

Cain can win! We are living in a time where it’s clear to everyone on both sides that the conventional political class on both sides have royally failed! It’s time for a true outsider with private sector experience to get this economy roaring again.

Herman Cain has this experience, has a great American story from poverty to executive success and then surviving cancer. He is willing to take on the sacred cows of progressive taxation and social security reform. And he has a good sense of humor, gives a great speech, debates and interviews well (unlike Rick Perry). He is communicating in every way he can to the American people and it’s refreshing!

I am willing to take the plunge with Cain, because there is no doubt he’s conservative and there’s no doubt he is better than Obama!

milemarker2020 on October 17, 2011 at 12:53 PM

Cain is able! 2012!

bridgetown on October 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Cain on Michael Savage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpWHK2pEaR8

milemarker2020 on October 17, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Why is Perry looking like Palin in National matchup?

jp on October 17, 2011 at 12:55 PM

RACISTS!

Cain’s looking good. If he can sell 9-9-9, he could beat Obama.

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 12:55 PM

If any of the other would-be candidates can do better — and offer anything like a record of accomplishment that surpasses Cain’s — I hope they’ll do it, and soon. I’ll be at the head of the line to support them.

Right now, Cain looks better than all the other wannabes. And, though it will hurt him with Hot Air (T-Paw!!11!!!11!) and NRO (Zombie Reagan and/or Zombie Buckley), better than all the ex-wannabes.

MrScribbler on October 17, 2011 at 12:55 PM

gophergirl on October 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Hear!..Hear!..:)

Dire Straits on October 17, 2011 at 12:56 PM

cmsinaz on October 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM

yep…the groundskeepers have just started chalking the lines. First pitch is way down the road.

Limerick on October 17, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Book sales are good!

faraway on October 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM

The book tour is over, the book is sold out across the country with a 7-10 wait at Amazon last time I looked.

But you keep fracking that chicken.

Knucklehead on October 17, 2011 at 12:56 PM

How many voters nationally even know who Herman Cain is?

jp on October 17, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Agree GG

cmsinaz on October 17, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Gotta make clear foreign policy statements and sell the public – me included – on a national sales tax (though I would prefer getting rid of the income tax altogether)… otherwise, Cain looks good.

fiatboomer on October 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Why are people running Cain vs Perfect? Cain is a conservative and has very strong conservative instincts. His foreign policy will be sound because he knows the moral truth that there is evil in the world. That we need to stand with our friends. And we must never surrender our ideals. That’s good enough for me and infinitely better than what we have in the White House today.

milemarker2020 on October 17, 2011 at 12:57 PM

That doesn’t necessarily address issues about his organization and his campaign strategy, but it does rebut the notion that no one would take Cain seriously as a nominee if he managed to win in the primaries.

Good point Capt. Ed..It leads to a bigger question..Can Herb get orginized and raise the big bucks?..:)

Dire Straits on October 17, 2011 at 12:58 PM

This poll proves two things. Almost anyone of our candidates can beat Obama and that it is easy to be popular when no one writes anything bad about you.

They have not begun to attack Herman Cain.

Bill C on October 17, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Conservatives only support Cain because they want to boot a black man outa the WH, ain’t you heard?

Akzed on October 17, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Limerick :)

cmsinaz on October 17, 2011 at 12:59 PM

The Romney “inevitability and electability” fallacies are circling the drain.

rrpjr on October 17, 2011 at 12:59 PM

How long until Atheist make claim he’s ineligible because he’s a pastor

jp on October 17, 2011 at 1:00 PM

The book tour is over, the book is sold out across the country with a 7-10 wait at Amazon last time I looked.

But you keep fracking that chicken.

Knucklehead on October 17, 2011 at 12:56 PM

I need to hurry, since that chicken will have a 9% sales tax soon, and poor people will go hungry.

faraway on October 17, 2011 at 1:00 PM

The only way we can beat Obama is if we support Cain

-Asladevitunia

MeatHeadinCA on October 17, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Can Herb get orginized and raise the big bucks?..:)

Dire Straits on October 17, 2011 at 12:58 PM

Who can? That’s what I want to know. if Cain can, I think he could do this.

MeatHeadinCA on October 17, 2011 at 1:01 PM

How many voters nationally even know who Herman Cain is?

jp on October 17, 2011 at 12:56 PM

If he is the nominee, here is what they will “know” courtesy of the MSM: Cain is a race traitor and self laothing Uncle Tom whose cancer may relapse at any moment. So, as usual, the election will turn on whether or not a majority of Americans believe the media or their own lying eyes.

Meh on October 17, 2011 at 1:01 PM

Conservatives only support Cain because they want to boot a black man outa the WH, ain’t you heard?

Akzed on October 17, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Looking fwd to the Left throwing Oreo’s at him, so we can’t point out Obama is the one that is Half-White while Cain is as pure as a hershey’s bar

jp on October 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Obama vs Cain :: Ali vs Frazier, I

Robert_Paulson on October 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM

I need to hurry, since that chicken will have a 9% sales tax soon, and poor people will go hungry.

faraway on October 17, 2011 at 1:00 PM

LOL! At least you project him to be in the White House! Everyone is worried about the sales tax must realize that with a lower threshold to maintain their current profit margin, the prices of goods will go down. It will more than make up for the new sales tax.

milemarker2020 on October 17, 2011 at 1:03 PM

Somenone needs to unite and invigorate the TEA Party and company, now. The bickering on the right is self destructive and a bitter pill for the land.

The Chinese today endorsed the 99rs.

Obama did so yesterday and is on that black bus, financed by YOU, ranting against and dividing YOU.

He and the Chinese are communist pigs, along with Chavez.

If only somone like Trump would tell so.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Cain is only running because he wants the black guy out of the White House.

Bishop on October 17, 2011 at 1:05 PM

National Review Online has panned 9-9-9.

In totally, totally unrelated news, Cain is now within five points of Romney in the Mormon-heavy Nevada caucuses.

KingGold on October 17, 2011 at 1:06 PM

OMG! 43% of Americans are racists! … Oh, wait.

Aardvark on October 17, 2011 at 1:06 PM

I don’t like the sales tax. We already have a high sales tax in Calif. But I really like Cain and the advantage to having a successful CEO is that he will surround himself with strong capable advisors as opposed to yes men. These advisors will fill in any weak spots he has regarding foreign policy as well as domestic issues.

Rose on October 17, 2011 at 1:06 PM

National Review Online has panned 9-9-9.

KingGold on October 17, 2011 at 1:06 PM

Totally snarky Perry supporter comment to follow…….

They loved Perry’s plan :)

gophergirl on October 17, 2011 at 1:07 PM

It’s time for Perry to condsider dropping out. When you are running behind Michele Bachmann in both Iowa and New Hampshire, that’s bad. When Perry starts personally campaigning in early primary states (or sends Anita in), he starts falling off big time.

Most Recent New Hampshire GOP Primary Polling

* Romney (R) 41%
* Cain (R) 20%
* Paul (R) 10%
* Undecided 8%
* Gingrich (R) 6%
* Huntsman (R) 6%
* Bachmann (R) 4%
* Santorum (R) 2%
* Perry (R) 2%
* Johnson (R) 1%

bw222 on October 17, 2011 at 1:07 PM

This guy could very well be our nominee. I’m happy to see him polling so well.

And no I’m not jumping ship – I just want to make sure Obama gets ground into little pieces of dust come November 2012 by GOP candidate TBD.

gophergirl on October 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Yep. I’m not jumping ship, but I’m keeping my eye on the life boats.

And yes, little pieces of dust. Complete humiliation. I want to see Chris Mathews and Mika Brzezinski cry.

SlaveDog on October 17, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Support him we much!

Mike Honcho on October 17, 2011 at 1:07 PM

MeatHeadinCA on October 17, 2011 at 1:01 PM

I agree..Cain must get big money and fast to compete with Perry and Romney..Will Cain be able?..:)

Dire Straits on October 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM

And we must never surrender our ideals. That’s good enough for me and infinitely better than what we have in the White House today.

milemarker2020 on October 17, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Foreign policy is overrated…time and time again the success of policy depends on whether they like or respect you or fear you.
He will reach out to England, and bring them back in as allies, maybe even give them a cd of his greatest singing hits…
Cain is likeable, but more importantly, they have to trust you, and I think he will instill that trust, but also maintain a “are you for us or agin us” attitude.

right2bright on October 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Cain/West, for complete head explosions and racism on the left.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM

In totally, totally unrelated news, Cain is now within five points of Romney in the Mormon-heavy Nevada caucuses.

KingGold on October 17, 2011 at 1:06 PM

Plus, Romney already said it was okay to vote for either him or Herb, so Mitt supporters can take comfort.

Meh on October 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Herman Cain needs to good VP-candidate, who understands foreign policy. My advise: John Bolton.

By the way: Is it too late for Rudy Giuliani to enter the race?

Sir Galahad the Pure on October 17, 2011 at 1:09 PM

I agree..Cain must get big money and fast to compete with Perry and Romney..Will Cain be able?..:)

Dire Straits on October 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM

He could have done this and been more able if he wouldn’t have been so foolish against Perry and for Romney.

His soul is still for sale.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Why is Perry looking like Palin in National matchup?

jp on October 17, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Good question. Sarah is far smarter.

bw222 on October 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM

National Review Online has panned 9-9-9.

In totally, totally unrelated news, Cain is now within five points of Romney in the Mormon-heavy Nevada caucuses.

KingGold on October 17, 2011 at 1:06 PM

If Laffer and Ryan thinks it’s a good start…that is what matters most right now…not what some journalist thinks.

right2bright on October 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Herman Cain needs to good VP-candidate, who understands foreign policy. My advise: John Bolton.

By the way: Is it too late for Rudy Giuliani to enter the race?

Sir Galahad the Pure on October 17, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Cain/West, with Bolton for State.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM

I wonder how many of those respondents are aware of Cain’s plan to increase the tax burden on the working class, while waiving taxes for repatriated corporate profits.

ernesto on October 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Cain/Bachmann in 2012 vs Obama/Clinton.

Blue Collar Todd on October 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Yep. I’m not jumping ship, but I’m keeping my eye on the life boats.

And yes, little pieces of dust. Complete humiliation. I want to see Chris Mathews and Mika Brzezinski cry.

SlaveDog on October 17, 2011 at 1:07 PM

It’s reality.

Oh I want to see Ed Schultz’s head explode election night.

gophergirl on October 17, 2011 at 1:11 PM

By the way: Is it too late for Rudy Giuliani to enter the race?

Sir Galahad the Pure on October 17, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Utah’s cutoff date was October 15th, so I’d say yes.

Knucklehead on October 17, 2011 at 1:11 PM

But what about Paul?

REVOLUTION! (the letters “EVOL” are backwards to spell “LOVE”)

shick on October 17, 2011 at 1:12 PM

* Perry (R) 2%
* Johnson (R) 1%

bw222 on October 17, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Is this for real?

MeatHeadinCA on October 17, 2011 at 1:12 PM

He could have done this and been more able if he wouldn’t have been so foolish against Perry and for Romney.

His soul is still for sale.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Or, others have looked at the evidence, seen what actually happened, did not get taken in by the spin…and have decided on their own that Cain is his own man, and won’t be defined by the media…but some Like you) posters are easily manipulated, you have a lot of company.

right2bright on October 17, 2011 at 1:12 PM

That’s pretty good for someone with no plan, no money, no experience and no organization. Not to take anything away from Mr. Cain but can when can we admit that The Won is in deep dodo? Oh and Mr. Morrissey, stop being in the tank for Obama!!!!!!!/

Cindy Munford on October 17, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Good point Capt. Ed..It leads to a bigger question..Can Herb get orginized and raise the big bucks?..:)

Dire Straits on October 17, 2011 at 12:58 PM

What if all those left-at-the-altar palinistas like me decide to take the grass roots organization she didn’t want and give it to Cain? Would that do it?

What if everything that used to be said about Palin running started getting said about Cain? Would that do?

And do not overlook the 8 to 1 tea party advantage in the poll. That is higher than Palin’s tea party support ever was.

platypus on October 17, 2011 at 1:13 PM

But I was told the tea party was racist…

Oil Can on October 17, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Cain is a bad apple, probably a bad grapefruit too.

Bishop on October 17, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Is this for real?

MeatHeadinCA on October 17, 2011 at 1:12 PM

It certainly tracks. Perry’s completely toxic in New Hampshire.

KingGold on October 17, 2011 at 1:13 PM

I wonder how many of those respondents are aware of Cain’s plan to increase the tax burden on the working class, while waiving taxes for repatriated corporate profits.

ernesto on October 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Probably none. They are likely smarter than the average troll.

faraway on October 17, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Cain likes apples.

Bishop on October 17, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Is this for real?

MeatHeadinCA on October 17, 2011 at 1:12 PM

See for yourself:

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/new-hampshire/

bw222 on October 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM

State Media better start smearing Cain harder. I’m sure they can work it into their OWS promotions somehow.

forest on October 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM

I wonder how many of those respondents are aware of Cain’s plan to increase the tax burden on the working class, while waiving taxes for repatriated corporate profits.

ernesto on October 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Naw, nor do they know about Cain’s plan to starve the seniors, not educate minorities, and shoot people in the street for disagreeing with him…although if was one of the 47% who do not pay taxes, I would be a little worried…

right2bright on October 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM

Cain/West, with Bolton for State.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Also a good idea. Allen West can school Cain a little bit more on the threat of Islam.

Sir Galahad the Pure on October 17, 2011 at 1:16 PM

That’s pretty good for someone with no plan, no money, no experience and no organization. Not to take anything away from Mr. Cain but can when can we admit that The Won is in deep dodo? Oh and Mr. Morrissey, stop being in the tank for Obama!!!!!!!/

Cindy Munford on October 17, 2011 at 1:12 PM

This may be that “unconventional” campaign that the Palin supporters touted.

Knucklehead on October 17, 2011 at 1:16 PM

I wonder how many of those respondents are aware of Cain’s plan to increase the tax burden on the working class, while waiving taxes for repatriated corporate profits.

ernesto on October 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Do you work at being uninformed? The 9% “increase” in income taxes on the working class is more than offset by the elimination of the 15% payroll tax.

Now please go study some more so you don’t sound so dumb.

platypus on October 17, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Everyone is worried about the sales tax must realize that with a lower threshold to maintain their current profit margin, the prices of goods will go down. It will more than make up for the new sales tax.

milemarker2020 on October 17, 2011 at 1:03 PM

I’m still waiting for the prices to go down from the Durbin debit card thing; remember how those evil retailers and banks were charging such huge amounts for debit card usage, and now that consumers are paying it to their banks, the retailers can reduce prices, right?

Yep, still waiting.

Don’t count me among the folks that anticipate retailers are going to lower their prices to offset lower payroll taxes – I suspect if we get a 9% federal sales tax, we’re going to see *zero* reduction in retail prices, we’ll just be paying an extra 9% on everything.

Midas on October 17, 2011 at 1:17 PM

This may be that “unconventional” campaign that the Palin supporters touted.

Knucklehead on October 17, 2011 at 1:16 PM

SACRILEGE!

MeatHeadinCA on October 17, 2011 at 1:17 PM

But I was told the tea party was racist…

Oil Can on October 17, 2011 at 1:13 PM

It is. Herman Cain is just its double-secret way of proving it’s not. You need to keep up with the “narrative.”

rrpjr on October 17, 2011 at 1:18 PM

I wonder how many of those respondents are aware of Cain’s plan to increase the tax burden on the working class, while waiving taxes for repatriated corporate profits.

ernesto on October 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM

I don’t know if that’s true, but I hope it is. Working class has become code for union workers, government workers, and other heavily democrat-supporting voters. What is needed is for change to decimate these groups to the point that they no longer represent such a huge diseased chunk of our economy.

keep the change on October 17, 2011 at 1:18 PM

I wonder how many of those respondents are aware of Cain’s plan to increase the tax burden on the working class, while waiving taxes for repatriated corporate profits.

ernesto on October 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM

I don’t usually humor trolls, but I thought that leftists wanted corporations to repatriate their income. You know, to create jobs in America and not the hated China and India.

KingGold on October 17, 2011 at 1:18 PM

Knucklehead on October 17, 2011 at 1:16 PM

I am all for unconventional and while I don’t want to take anything away from Mr. Cain, I just wish people would stop acting like the The Won has done anything other than FUBAR.

Cindy Munford on October 17, 2011 at 1:19 PM

platypus on October 17, 2011 at 1:13 PM

I am sure Cain would definitely be glad to get the Palinistas support..I didn’t know the Palinistas voted in a block?..:)

Dire Straits on October 17, 2011 at 1:19 PM

But I was told the tea party was racist…

Oil Can on October 17, 2011 at 1:13 PM

They still are, and supporting Cain is even more proof of it. Or something.

Ask Janeane Garafalo or your closest libtard (ernesto is around here somewhere).

Midas on October 17, 2011 at 1:19 PM

I’m on Hermans’ bus.

tim c on October 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM

It’s a train actually. :) Get on the Cain Train.

Psycotte on October 17, 2011 at 1:20 PM

If Cain is the GOP candidate, how am I supposed to vote? If I vote Cain then I’m racist against PBHO, but if I vote PBHO then I’ll be racist against Cain.

I suppose I could vote Lizard Man and be racist against both Cain and PBHO.

Bishop on October 17, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Cain is just the it-candidate of the moment.

He will fade just like the others.

Moesart on October 17, 2011 at 1:21 PM

platypus on October 17, 2011 at 1:16 PM

It’s the elimination of deductions plus the sales tax, platypus…its that sales tax. The burden on those who can least afford it will rise. Either way, I still don’t understand why we should be cutting multinationals a break in the midst of these austere times. Conservatives in Washington and every statehouse are asking us to do with fewer teachers, more expensive higher education…they’re threatening to revoke unemployment insurance and food stamps…but they won’t ask those with actual wealth to sacrifice. Cain wants to cut a break to those with the most outsized wealth, while hitting up the lower classes.

ernesto on October 17, 2011 at 1:21 PM

KingGold on October 17, 2011 at 1:18 PM

We did the same thing in 2004, and all the money went to increased dividend payouts – no jobs were created.

ernesto on October 17, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Conservatives in Washington and every statehouse are asking us to do with fewer teachers, more expensive higher education

They are? Seems to me democrats, instead cutting actual junk, are threatening teacher jobs to scare people like you. It seems to be working. Congrats on being gullible, I guess.

lorien1973 on October 17, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Hey Ernesto, since Cain is bad, who should we nominate? (This should be good)

Meh on October 17, 2011 at 1:26 PM

We did the same thing in 2004, and all the money went to increased dividend payouts – no jobs were created.

ernesto on October 17, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Heaven forbid investors get a return on their money, which is an incentive for more people to invest in more companies. But if that’s your take on it, why are we taxing the repatriated profits at all? To achieve economic justice, we should simply confiscate all that money and establish a new entitlement for poor people.

KingGold on October 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM

Conservatives are Raising Cain in 2012!!!

labrat on October 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM

Cain is just the it-candidate of the moment.

He will fade just like the others.

Moesart on October 17, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Doubtful. Unlike Bachmann, he actually has a record in the private sector he can run on. And unlike Perry, he’s done well in the debates and is unafraid of sitting down for tough interviews on NBC and MSDNC.

I noticed that yet again Rasmussen shows a GOP candidate getting weak support from Republican voters. In Cain’s case, it’s 72%. You know that’ll be at least 85-90% come election time, so his lead over Obama could end up being way higher than 2 points.

Doughboy on October 17, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Cain wants to cut a break to those with the most outsized wealth,

The very use of the phrase “outsized wealth” bespeaks of socialism, even communism. How can wealth be “outsized”? Explain that please. It was accumulated. Legally. It belongs to them. Wealth is not something that is awarded by government. If you do not have as much wealth as you’d like, that’s your fault. The rules for wealth gathering apply equally to all citizens. If some citizens use those rules better than others, good for them. They are playing the game as it was meant to be played, and others resent that they are not as good at it.

Please explain the concept that wealth can be “outsized”.

keep the change on October 17, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Hey Ernesto, since Cain is bad, who should we nominate? (This should be good)

Meh on October 17, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Ernesto is happy that the corporate tax rate will be 50% in jan 2013 if we pass Obama’s job bill. He’s happy to see the unemployed get a check; just so long as we don’t cut taxes for those who “have wealth”

lorien1973 on October 17, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Yehaw! Go Cain!

Hard Right on October 17, 2011 at 1:30 PM

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