DeMint office denies Romney endorsement story

posted at 10:05 am on October 17, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

According to Roll Call’s “knowledgeable GOP sources,” conservative stalwart Senator Jim DeMint may endorse Mitt Romney for President:

DeMint, who endorsed the former Massachusetts governor in 2008, made clear in an interview late last week that he has made no decisions on whom he will support in the 2012 primary. But Republican operatives familiar with the DeMint-Romney relationship and privy to the conservative Senator’s private assessment of the GOP field believe Romney is the most likely candidate to receive the backing of the tea party favorite.

“Jim is far more likely to endorse Mitt than anyone else currently in the race,” a Republican with South Carolina ties said. “Jim is a business guy and that’s his background. He’s not really the good ol’ boy conservative type. So Mitt in a lot of ways is a more comfortable fit for him.”

“Jim actually likes Romney,” added a GOP operative based in the Palmetto State. “I think, politically, he had some doubts about his ability to engage conservatives, but it would not surprise me for Jim to endorse Romney at some point.”

According to my knowledgeable on-the-record source Wesley Denton, DeMint’s spokesman, the story is a “fabrication”:

“That story is a fabrication made up of anonymous sources that obviously have no clue what Senator DeMint is thinking. He has said over and over again that he is not leaning toward any candidate yet and may end up not endorsing in the presidential race.”

DeMint did endorse Romney early in the 2008 cycle, but that was a different set of circumstances with a much different set of candidates. In 2008, Republicans wanted a conservative alternative to John McCain, and Romney was seen at the time as the most logical choice — all the way through to CPAC 2008, where conservatives were crushed by Romney’s concession to McCain. In 2012′s field, Romney looks much more like the establishment-moderate choice, with everyone else in the race competing for the conservative-alternative position — what I’ve called the Not-Romney role.  It makes sense that DeMint wants to wait to see who emerges in that latter role before endorsing someone — or bothering to endorse anyone.

Of course, this doesn’t mean DeMint doesn’t like Romney at all, or wouldn’t support him if he won the nomination.  DeMint paid a visit to NRO this summer and still had praise for Romney, although calling someone a “good candidate” isn’t exactly singing hosannas.  He might well decide at some point that Romney’s the only man still left who can take out Obama in a general election, which as a sitting Senator has to be DeMint’s highest priority in the 2012 cycle.  The question that would come from a hypothetical DeMint endorsement of Romney would be whether it would hurt DeMint’s standing with conservatives as much as it would help Romney’s standing with them.

Update: Politico gets a strong reaction from the man who runs DeMint’s Senate Conservatives Fund:

Matt Hoskins, who runs DeMint’s Senate Conservatives Fund, said DeMint is “looking to see who wins over the grassroots, and so far Governor Romney has not done that.”

“These operatives don’t know what they’re talking about. Senator DeMint is not leaning toward anyone at this point,” Hoskins said of the story this morning.

That fits into my analysis above, presuming that DeMint would at least wait to see who the most viable Not-Romney turns out to be before making an endorsement either way.

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In 2008, Republicans wanted a conservative alternative to John McCain, and Romney was seen at the time as the most logical choice

Tells you something, don’t it?

Akzed on October 17, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Ok I feel a little better now

Let’s go Perry!

cmsinaz on October 17, 2011 at 10:12 AM

Yeah, I can’t see DeMint backing Romney after some of the stories that came out this weekend.

MeatHeadinCA on October 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM

I will go on the record right now if Mitt Romney is the republican nominee a 3rd party challenger will emerge, and will garner enough of the vote to ensure a second Obama term.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM

So who stared the rumor DeMint was going to endorse Romney?

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:15 AM

DeMint’s got to know that endorsing Romney would destroy his conservative credentials, just like Christie extinguished the last of his with his hamfisted* defense of Romneycare.

He also must know that he has the power to anoint the designated Not-Romney, simply by steering all the conservative and Tea Party money to one candidate. Cain? Perry?

*no pun intended.

KingGold on October 17, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Well, The Hill and David Drucker both just took a nose dive in credibility.

hawkdriver on October 17, 2011 at 10:17 AM

Ok I feel a little better now

Let’s go Perry!

cmsinaz on October 17, 2011 at 10:12 AM

No kidding on both counts.

gophergirl on October 17, 2011 at 10:19 AM

if Mitt Romney is the republican nominee a 3rd party challenger will emerge, and will garner enough of the vote to ensure a second Obama term.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM

I don’t think Mitt needs a third party challenger to lose to Obama. He can do that just fine on his own, thank you.

SKYFOX on October 17, 2011 at 10:19 AM

I will go on the record right now if Mitt Romney is the republican nominee a 3rd party challenger will emerge, and will garner enough of the vote to ensure a second Obama term.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Geeeee…….I wonder who that’ll be??

tencole on October 17, 2011 at 10:19 AM

I will go on the record right now if Mitt Romney is the republican nominee a 3rd party challenger will emerge, and will garner enough of the vote to ensure a second Obama term.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM

I, unfortunately, have to agree…Romney is the candidate the DNC wants to have chosen…for a number of reasons.
One, he can’t debate ObamaCare, he is labeled the insider businessman wheeler/dealer, he is weak when attacked, he does not connect with the public voting, he is not a conservative, he is now an advocate of Global Warming, and Obama is infinitely more “likeable” than Romney.
The plus for Romney…he has money and influence, good looking and he has 96% of a voting block.

right2bright on October 17, 2011 at 10:19 AM

I’ll hold me nose and vote for Mitt if he’s the nominee, however the Global Warning stuff has made now that I need to wear a gas mask.

Obama is has been a crazy soocialist in first term, even when an re-election is coming up. An Obama facing no election….I don’t know if the country could even take that.

Oil Can on October 17, 2011 at 10:19 AM

I don’t know if the country could even take that.

Oil Can on October 17, 2011 at 10:19 AM

Romney can’t beat Obama…that’s the problem.
He cant’ debate ObamaCare…and now regulation, the biggest threat to our manufacturing, he can’t debate that since all “regulation” now is based upon the EPA and environmental issues. Romney just gave that up.
The debates will be a debacle…with Romney complaining about the economy, but embracing the policies that helped put us there.

right2bright on October 17, 2011 at 10:22 AM

Well, The Hill and David Drucker both just took a nose dive in credibility.
hawkdriver on October 17, 2011 at 10:17 AM

Eh, I dunno. It’s a common enough tactic for politicians to use one outlet to float a trial balloon – then, if it don’t fly, use another outlet to shoot it down.

whatcat on October 17, 2011 at 10:23 AM

Gallup says Unemployment dropped sharply this month. Obama is safe.

andy85719 on October 17, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Ed,If that make you feel better about your horse (Blago-Perrych) then that’s fine but sooner or later you have to come to term with reality. Mitt Romney will be the republican nominee whether you like it or not.

Falz on October 17, 2011 at 10:25 AM

The debates will be a debacle…with Romney complaining about the economy, but embracing the policies that helped put us there.

right2bright on October 17, 2011 at 10:22 AM

LOL… quite true.

A Romney-Obama debate will devolve into both accepting the premise and goals of Big Govt. but arguing over who can best manage it.

TheRightMan on October 17, 2011 at 10:26 AM

right2bright on October 17, 2011 at 10:22 AM

November 2010 I was feeling extremely positive, I had thought the country had turned a corner and it was only a matter of time.

Now, I don’t know, it’s not a good spot. Maybe we need a Hail Mary pass.

Oil Can on October 17, 2011 at 10:27 AM

someone needs to ask Christie if he agrees with Romney on Global Warming and RomneyCare. If he says no, then we ask a followup, “Then why did you endorse him? Aren’t there other candidates who are more in line with your beliefs?”

Let’s start holding these endorsers feet to the fire!

jeffn21 on October 17, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Falz on October 17, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Mittbots are really on the hot seat this morning. We shine a little light into your man’s records and you get all flustered.

LOL… you better pray he will not be the nominee because by the time the Dems are through with him, Romney will find it difficult to be elected dogcatcher.

TheRightMan on October 17, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Mitt Romney will be the republican nominee whether you like it or not.

Falz on October 17, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Silly me, I thought the voters would decide this…

Fallon on October 17, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Romney can’t beat Obama…that’s the problem.

No. The problem is, he can.

BIG problem.

Bat Chain Puller on October 17, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Gallup says Unemployment dropped sharply this month. Obama is safe.

andy85719 on October 17, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Did you read the rest of the article?

gophergirl on October 17, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Good for him. There’s at least one senator waiting to see who wins over the grass roots. Looks like he is going to side with “We the people” and not elitism, after all. Hope yet.

balkanmom on October 17, 2011 at 10:36 AM

So who stared the rumor DeMint was going to endorse Romney?

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:15 AM

I honestly think Mitt Romney thinks he was so blind-sided by McCain and Huckabee last time playing straight that he doesn’t care. If polls said to embrace Communism, he will. Planting stories in the press and paying for stooges on the internet is straight out of Obama’s playbook and Mitt is playing to win.

Marcus on October 17, 2011 at 10:38 AM

considering Perry is now polling 3% in Florida, I dont think it really matters who endorses who.

hanzblinx on October 17, 2011 at 10:40 AM

So who stared the rumor DeMint was going to endorse Romney?

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:15 AM

I honestly think Mitt Romney thinks he was so blind-sided by McCain and Huckabee last time playing straight that he doesn’t care. If polls said to embrace Communism, he will. Planting stories in the press and paying for stooges on the internet is straight out of Obama’s playbook and Mitt is playing to win.

Marcus on October 17, 2011 at 10:38 AM

Romney was DeMint’s go to guy for the Presidency in 2008, so I don’t think a conspiracy is needed on this.

whatcat on October 17, 2011 at 10:42 AM

Unnamed Republican sources = Mitt Romney Campaign Team

LordMaximus on October 17, 2011 at 10:45 AM

The update is good news.

Romney would have to name a bona fide conservative as a running mate (e.g. DeMint), but even that wouldn’t cause me to vote for Romney.

There is nothing he could do to get my vote.

And there are millions who feel the same way.

They guy has yet to attract more than 25% of GOP voters.

After GWHB (who broke his no new taxes promise) in 1992, Dole in 1996, GWB in 2004 (after the expansion of Medicare to include prescription drugs), McCain in 2008, I am not voting for any more GOP/RNC/K Street garbage candidates.

They do not represent the way I believe at all.

I am voting 3rd party if Romney is the candidate.

molonlabe28 on October 17, 2011 at 10:46 AM

I’m getting another one of those “I like pizza” moments.

Rovin on October 17, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Marcus on October 17, 2011 at 10:38 AM

The whole purpose of planting a story like this is a backhanded swipe at conservative candidates. The gist is, DeMint would consider endorsing Romney so Romney is “palatable” to the conservative base. No he’s not – not even on one of his good days it’s why he is Mr 25%.

Results, It get’s web hits and stirs the pot. The question is whether it’s a Romney plant or a Liberal plant….they both want Romney to be the republican nominee so it really doesn’t matter. It’s also backfired on them.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Deems may see him as compromising and coming over to their side on issues if he does win. If he gets the nomination the MSM dem machine will turn on him and villanize in the blink of an eye.

ldbgcoleman on October 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM

It’s gonna be Romney. Get your excuses ready, your noseplugs ready, or get ready to stay home. Make your pick.

Because it’s gonna be Romney.

Abby Adams on October 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Romney was DeMint’s go to guy for the Presidency in 2008, so I don’t think a conspiracy is needed on this.

whatcat on October 17, 2011 at 10:42 AM

You’re right an endorsement is so much fluff, who won the republican nomination in 2008? Hint, it wasn’t Mitt Romney.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Because it’s gonna be Romney.

Abby Adams on October 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Mittbots and Eeyores (in a droning voice): Get ready to be assimilated… resistance is futile… Romney is inevitable.

Me (screaming and running away): Never… I say never!

TheRightMan on October 17, 2011 at 10:56 AM

Mitt Romney = Bob Dole, without the prior U.S. military service record, and participation in a major war.

Still the establishment republicans think Mr My Turn Next, is the prettiest pony in their stalls. LOL!

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:56 AM

TheRightMan on October 17, 2011 at 10:56 AM

Romney Supporters.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:59 AM

Mittens: no thanks…

No campaign contribution from me, either…

Khun Joe on October 17, 2011 at 10:59 AM

This is a fake endorsement fabricated and spit out by the Romney camp.

Expect more from MittCo and his dirty tricks.

portlandon on October 17, 2011 at 11:03 AM

I will go on the record right now if Mitt Romney is the republican nominee a 3rd party challenger will emerge, and will garner enough of the vote to ensure a second Obama term.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM

hahahaha!!!

That’s a good one! You are definitely ready for the comedy club circuit!

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 11:05 AM

I will go on the record right now if Mitt Romney is the republican nominee a 3rd party challenger will emerge, and will garner enough of the vote to ensure a second Obama term.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM

And if enough vote 3rd party, it will ensure both Oboobi and Mittwit are sent home. It all depends on 3rd party turnout & EV tally — it could be as slim as a 30/30/40 split.

AH_C on October 17, 2011 at 11:08 AM

Mitt = Dole? I would rather have Dole

ldbgcoleman on October 17, 2011 at 11:08 AM

Romney was DeMint’s go to guy for the Presidency in 2008, so I don’t think a conspiracy is needed on this.

whatcat on October 17, 2011 at 10:42 AM

You’re right an endorsement is so much fluff, who won the republican nomination in 2008? Hint, it wasn’t Mitt Romney.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Well, DeMint’s already endorsed Mitt for President once and it hasn’t hurt him, might figure he loses nothing by doing it again. Like you said, not too many people are impressed one way or another about endorsements, outside of bloggers and pundit types.

whatcat on October 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM

No. The problem is, he can.

BIG problem.

Bat Chain Puller on October 17, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Mitt can’t debate ObamaCare…he can’t debate the economy, he can’t debate foreign policy, he can’t/won’t debate foreign economy…what’s left, Religion? I don’t think he wants to debate that either.
Mitt is a loser in the debates…and don’t even compare who is more charismatic.
Mitt has 96% of a certain category of voters…and Obama has 95% of a certain category of voters (although much larger voting bloc)…
Mitt is in big trouble if he is selected…or I should say we are in bit trouble.

right2bright on October 17, 2011 at 11:12 AM

how can any true conservative in THIS election cycle especially, endorse a true LIBERAL flip flopper like RINO ROMNEY?

I mean my God, His Romneycare became the model for Obamacare and he hired the lunatic nuts to develop EPA regs based on Global Warming before they went to Obama???

C’mon….we can not even be talking about and endorsement of Mr. Rino.

SDarchitect on October 17, 2011 at 11:17 AM

And there are millions who feel the same way.

molonlabe28 on October 17, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Your problem is that there are tens of millions that feel the opposite way.

And we all know you people who are going to vote 3rd party because you have a desire to watch the country burn to the ground under Obama.

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 11:19 AM

It’s gonna be Romney. Get your excuses ready, your noseplugs ready, or get ready to stay home. Make your pick.

Because it’s gonna be Romney.

Abby Adams on October 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM

It’s pretty sad how likely true this is. And it couldn’t be more clear how little the entire Republican base wants this guy. I mean, could it be more obvious that anyone, literally ANYone who announced was soaring to the moon poll-wise the moment they announced until they did something to screw it up badly enough? And then, Romney still didn’t gain ground, it just meant that the next ANYone to announce lept up in the polls. Even Donald Trump skyrocketed for crying out loud.

Romney’s stayed the same, and we’re just taking turns cycling through all the other not-Romney choices, until I guess Romney wins the nomination after all the not-Romneys flame out and the press pushes as hard for Romney as they did for McCain. Then, once he wins, the press will pull out their huge “Romney attack file 2008,” blow the dust off it, add a few updates/flip-flops since the last time, and run it 24/7 until Obama wins.

Pathetic, really.

/Eeyore off.

DrAllecon on October 17, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Well, DeMint’s already endorsed Mitt for President once and it hasn’t hurt him, might figure he loses nothing by doing it again. Like you said, not too many people are impressed one way or another about endorsements, outside of bloggers and pundit types.

whatcat on October 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM

DeMint endorsed Romney in 2008 – well before the Tea Party came along and WELL BEFORE DeMint became he “defacto” patriarch of it. I am Tea Party – and DeMint is seen universally by Tea Party folk as their “champion” on capitol hill.

By contrast – I would say that Mittens, at least in the Tea Party cells I travel in – is seen as the anti-Christ of the tea party movement.

Were DeMint to endorse Romney at this stage of the game – DeMint could kiss every bit of influence he has over the Tea Party “goodbye”.

That’s why one of his key advisors has stated that DeMint is looking for someone to win over the grassroots. If Romney does it – fine, then DeMint will prolly endo him. However – as stated, Romney is a LONG WAY from winning over the grassroots. In fact, it would be easier for a camel to thread the eye of a needle – than for Mittens to win over the Tea Party.

HondaV65 on October 17, 2011 at 11:20 AM

AH_C on October 17, 2011 at 11:08 AM

And exactly which candidate has the money to compete with Obama as a 3rd party candidate? There isn’t one and a third party candidate with no money ensures an Obama win. HEY!! Then you get your wish and the country burns!

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM

So Romney is the inevitable choice, huh?

Yeah, great. Let’s see how well he does if a bunch of us conservatives decide we’re sick and tired of supporting the guy who will wreck the country more slowly than the other guy and vote for Congress, state, and local politicians but not President this time around. Nominate Obama-lite and see how much support you get. I bet a bunch of us start thinking in terms of shoring up the GOP in Congress to more effectively counterbalance the First Community Organizer for a few more years instead of trying to get OUR socialist into the White House.

Aitch748 on October 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM

DeMint did endorse Romney early in the 2008 cycle, but that was a different set of circumstances with a much different set of candidates. In 2008, Republicans wanted a conservative alternative to John McCain, and Romney was seen at the time as the most logical choice — all the way through to CPAC 2008, where conservatives were crushed by Romney’s concession to McCain.

HA!!!! If only that were true. Conservatives got behind Fred Thompson and only backed Mitt way too late to make a difference. Indeed, I was one of the very few who backed Romney (after eliminating Guiliani whom I had great admiration for as a former New Yorker who saw what he did to rescue NYC).

Buy Danish on October 17, 2011 at 11:27 AM

DrAllecon on October 17, 2011 at 11:19 AM

You’ve got it exactly right. Especially the 2nd paragraph. All of these other “flavors of the week” (to steal a term) have risen and fallen. Mitt’s stayed about the same.

Call me an Eeyore if you want, but I truly feel Romney’s inevitable at this point.

But don’t call me an Eeyore, because I don’t think Romney is nearly as bad as some people make him out to be. I won’t be voting for him in the primary, but he’ll have my proud vote when he wins the nomination.

Abby Adams on October 17, 2011 at 11:27 AM

Well, DeMint’s already endorsed Mitt for President once and it hasn’t hurt him, might figure he loses nothing by doing it again. Like you said, not too many people are impressed one way or another about endorsements, outside of bloggers and pundit types.

whatcat on October 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM

That was prior to the TEA party. DeMint is a TEA party favorite, Romney isn’t.

After GWB triggered TARP in September 2008, everything changed. The RNC is still waging the last campaign 2008. The country has moved on, there has been another election 2010. It seems that the establishment republicans have a steep learning curve or they think if the country got 4 more years of Obama, the next republican candidate would be a shoe in 2016. The thing is there is already a huge mess to clean up after the first Obama term. It’s just going to get to be bigger, and bigger, the longer he holds office.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Oops, first paragraph is Ed’s and should be in quotes, like this:

DeMint did endorse Romney early in the 2008 cycle, but that was a different set of circumstances with a much different set of candidates. In 2008, Republicans wanted a conservative alternative to John McCain, and Romney was seen at the time as the most logical choice — all the way through to CPAC 2008, where conservatives were crushed by Romney’s concession to McCain.

HA!!!! If only that were true. Conservatives got behind Fred Thompson and only backed Mitt way too late to make a difference. Indeed, I was one of the very few who backed Romney (after eliminating Guiliani whom I had great admiration for as a former New Yorker who saw what he did to rescue NYC).

Buy Danish on October 17, 2011 at 11:29 AM

cmsinaz on October 17, 2011 at 10:12 AM

Well he needs to do better than how he is doing right now. I am waiting for him to perform.

antisocial on October 17, 2011 at 11:38 AM

But don’t call me an Eeyore, because I don’t think Romney is nearly as bad as some people make him out to be. I won’t be voting for him in the primary, but he’ll have my proud vote when he wins the nomination.

Abby Adams on October 17, 2011 at 11:27 AM

I actually wasn’t calling you an Eeyore, I was calling myself one for facing the likelihood of Romney taking the primary so gloomily. I certainly won’t vote for him in the primary, but I would vote for him in the general. Just not proudly. Similar to McCain I’d be voting for him knowing that he’s once again the lesser of 2 evils. Besides, I meant it when I said I’d vote for a ham sandwich over Obama, I just didn’t think I would have to literally vote for one.

I guess the main focus at this point is to try and stack the congress with as many conservative members as possible (which should be the goal no matter who the candidate is).

DrAllecon on October 17, 2011 at 11:41 AM

Well, DeMint’s already endorsed Mitt for President once and it hasn’t hurt him, might figure he loses nothing by doing it again. Like you said, not too many people are impressed one way or another about endorsements, outside of bloggers and pundit types.
whatcat on October 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM

That was prior to the TEA party. DeMint is a TEA party favorite, Romney isn’t.
Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Works fine if you don’t believe DeMint was a conservative until the Tea Party came along. At any rate, Romney must have been acceptable enough – or the least of all evils – for DeMint to endorse him.

whatcat on October 17, 2011 at 11:41 AM

I was one of the very few who backed Romney (after eliminating Guiliani whom I had great admiration for as a former New Yorker who saw what he did to rescue NYC).

Buy Danish on October 17, 2011 at 11:29 AM

Boy, your support for Mitt in 2008 sure helped him win the nomination, didn’t it?

portlandon on October 17, 2011 at 11:45 AM

Sorry, csdeven, but your RINO can’t win without us.

And the country would continue to burn if he won, because he is nothing more than Obama-Lite.

molonlabe28 on October 17, 2011 at 11:45 AM

I kind of think that this is another attempt by the Establishment GOP to push the “inevitability” of a Romney nomination.

hachiban on October 17, 2011 at 11:46 AM

AH_C on October 17, 2011 at 11:08 AM

And exactly which candidate has the money to compete with Obama as a 3rd party candidate? There isn’t one and a third party candidate with no money ensures an Obama win. HEY!! Then you get your wish and the country burns!

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM

So instead of obsessing on how pyro we are, why don’t you enlighten us on why Mittwit is the right man for US? I don’t recall one word from you on why he’s better than Oboobi, let alone the other candidates. Electability is not a valid merit. Even the devil is electable, but it doesn’t make him right. If you’ll excuse me, I’ll go and listen to the static in your grammy’s attic

AH_C on October 17, 2011 at 11:47 AM

Matt Hoskins, who runs DeMint’s Senate Conservatives Fund, said DeMint is “looking to see who wins over the grassroots, and so far Governor Romney has not done that.”

lol.. in other words, sticking a finger in the air to see which way the wind blows… hahah.. this is too rich

gatorboy on October 17, 2011 at 11:48 AM

Sorry, csdeven, but your RINO can’t win without us.

And the country would continue to burn if he won, because he is nothing more than Obama-Lite.

molonlabe28 on October 17, 2011 at 11:45 AM

You wish there were as many loons as you. You have support here and that is about it. The polling proves it.

The country would get better in some areas under Romney and in some areas the progressive policies would simply slow. Things would not get worse. But what you and your ilk want to do is pour gallons of gas on the fire just to watch the destruction so you can feel better.

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 11:50 AM

If DeMint supports Romney he will sell his TEA Party soul and can go to Hades.

————
Read up and be cautious and skeptical.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 11:59 AM

..collective sigh of relief over at HA.

The War Planner on October 17, 2011 at 12:00 PM

You wish there were as many loons as you. You have support here and that is about it. The polling proves it.

The country would get better in some areas under Romney and in some areas the progressive policies would simply slow. Things would not get worse. But what you and your ilk want to do is pour gallons of gas on the fire just to watch the destruction so you can feel better.

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 11:50 AM

There were enough of us there to send Pappy Bush, Dole & McVain home. And enough did it in 2000 to almost derail Dubya. If you look at the raw numbers, there’s proof that conservatives sat on their hands, than elect a RINO. And with each cycle, the disgust grows against the establishment. The day will come when we conservatives party like it’s 1856/1860. Whether it will be 2012 or 2016, remains to be seen, but change is a-coming from within or without.

AH_C on October 17, 2011 at 12:01 PM

Mitt Romney will be the republican nominee whether you like it or not.

Falz on October 17, 2011 at 10:25 AM

No one buy lottery tickets based on this. The fat lady has not sung, by far.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 12:03 PM

Rasmussen today

POLL: CAIN 43% OBAMA 41%

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 12:03 PM

So instead of obsessing on how pyro we are, why don’t you enlighten us on why Mittwit is the right man for US? I don’t recall one word from you on why he’s better than Oboobi, let alone the other candidates. Electability is not a valid merit. Even the devil is electable, but it doesn’t make him right. If you’ll excuse me, I’ll go and listen to the static in your grammy’s attic

AH_C on October 17, 2011 at 11:47 AM

Electability. Something the other candidates cannot claim as of yet. And there have been plenty of links to Romney’s accomplishments in the conservative arena and we all know you wouldn’t accept them as mitigating to your issues with him. So what is the point?

If Romney is the nominee, you will have only two choices. Romney and Obama. Sitting home and voting for an under funded 3rd party candidate would be in effect voting for Obama. Elect Romney as POTUS and you get a moderate republican who will support many conservative issues and some liberal issues. He will also want to be reelected and has an impetus to be conservative to avoid a primary challenge.

Elect Obama and you get a 100% progressive POTUS in a lame duck term with no impetus to moderate his policies.

And then there are the SCOTUS nominees….

If you choose Obama, it will be clear that all you want to do is pour gasoline on the country just to watch it burn out of spite.

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 12:04 PM

It’s also backfired on them.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Obama and Axelrod are dummies. If they were geniuses they’d have waited to embrace/criticize Romney, alas…

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 12:06 PM

OOPS. Rick Perry has an email problem connecting him deeper to the vile Pastor Jeffress. Apparently they’d rather stick with the guy who was mentored by Rev. Jeremiah Wright than vote for the eeeeeevil Mormon. DeMint may come from evangelical S.C. but I doubt he’ll stick with Perry in light of this association.

Buy Danish on October 17, 2011 at 12:07 PM

AH_C on October 17, 2011 at 12:01 PM

Don’t hurt yourself trying to congratulate yourself for getting Clinton elected. A lot of good that did to teach the GOP a lesson to never nominate moderates ever again. Bush senior broke a promise, Dole sucked, and Gore was riding the Clinton economic wave.

You aren’t fooling anyone. You want to watch it burn. Period.

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 12:07 PM

Boy, your support for Mitt in 2008 sure helped him win the nomination, didn’t it?

portlandon on October 17, 2011 at 11:45 AM

May the good/smart BD’s karma work again :)

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM

Good thing,as I’m sure DeMint has been hearing from all of us.

ohiobabe on October 17, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Buy Danish on October 17, 2011 at 12:07 PM

Religion will not and should not be the topic of 2012. It’s all a distraction, and will be one used by the left against Romney too…all who do are bigots, altogether.

Only a good leader will difuse it, alas.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 12:11 PM

The right need no enemies, they are within.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 12:11 PM

The right need no enemies, they are within.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 12:11 PM

I agree..This is a Thread Winner for sure!..:)

Dire Straits on October 17, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Elect Obama and you get a 100% progressive POTUS
csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 12:04 PM

Whereas with Mitt you get a 95% progressive. Also 90% of a liar as compared to Obama.

antisocial on October 17, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Whereas with Mitt you get a 95% progressive. Also 90% of a liar as compared to Obama.

antisocial on October 17, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Wrong. You’ll get a 5% progressive, a 60% moderate and the rest conservative.

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 12:44 PM

Works fine if you don’t believe DeMint was a conservative until the Tea Party came along. At any rate, Romney must have been acceptable enough – or the least of all evils – for DeMint to endorse him.

whatcat on October 17, 2011 at 11:41 AM

South Carolina is the conservative fire wall. I wasn’t sure McCain was going to make it past S.C. it helped having Huckabee blocking for him. Mitt didn’t make it through with DeMint’s endorsement. DeMint serves in the Senate with McCain, but didn’t support him in 2008, what was that about? McCain has campaign history with the state of SC, when he was running in the republican primary in 2000 against George W Bush….remember McCain’s got a colored daughter narrative?

So which conservative candidate is going to block for Mitt Romney to get him past the South Carolina firewall? Herman Cain? I don’t know he seems to be peaking right now. Cain needs organization on the ground, and campaign donations to sustain his surge.

South Carolina Primary: Saturday 21 January 2012 (tentative date)

About 3 months from now.

It’s inside baseball, but it’s gonna make a difference to the entire nomination process.

Meanwhile flyboy’s has his eye on flyover country:)

Behind Enemy Lines: Perry Campaign Keeping the Faith in New Hampshire

Their man, they say, is much more dynamic in person and on the stump, which is why the campaign plans to get Perry in front of as many voters as possible before the first votes are cast in Iowa and New Hampshire.

“We’ve adopted a marathon strategy,” one staffer explained.

They have the ground organization and the money.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 1:27 PM

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 12:44 PM

You agree with Liar? I wonder why you skipped that part?

antisocial on October 17, 2011 at 1:46 PM

That’s right cdseven, Romney is 60% moderate and 35% conservative.

Whatever you say, amigo.

The GOP’s nomination of him may well result in Obama’s getting re-elected.

He is certainly the candidate Obama wants to run against in 2012.

I wonder why.

He has been running for President for 6 years and still can’t get more than 25% of the GOP to support him.

molonlabe28 on October 17, 2011 at 1:48 PM

molonlabe28 on October 17, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Don’t forget the media is in love with the idea too. The qualification for President of the U.S. for the media, he looks the part. Really the American media’s analysis of presidential criteria is as shallow as a teaspoon. But with all the shilling by the media liberal and otherwise, Romney can’t get past 25% support, but for some reason, it just makes the media push the Romney button harder LOL! There is a reason why call the MSM – dinosaur media.

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Dr Evil on October 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM

a 3rd party challenger wont be needed. mitt will do a fine job of losing the election if he is the nominee.

chasdal on October 17, 2011 at 2:32 PM

In 2008, Republicans wanted a conservative alternative to John McCain, and Romney was seen at the time as the most logical choice

Tells you something, don’t it?

Akzed on October 17, 2011 at 10:11 AM

That (a) the Tea Party Movement didn’t exactly exist in the winter of 2007-2008 (especially in New Hampshire and South Carolina), and (b) the fastest way to be Next-In-Line™ is to appear to be just a bit less liberal than the liberal Republican who became Next-In-Line™ in the previous contested primary.

Steve Eggleston on October 17, 2011 at 3:02 PM

AH_C on October 17, 2011 at 12:01 PM

Don’t hurt yourself trying to congratulate yourself for getting Clinton elected. A lot of good that did to teach the GOP a lesson to never nominate moderates ever again. Bush senior broke a promise, Dole sucked, and Gore was riding the Clinton economic wave.

You aren’t fooling anyone. You want to watch it burn. Period.

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 12:07 PM

You caught me dead to rights. I want to see the country burn just so the GOP establishment can be destroyed and a conservative party rise from the ashes. Or I can hope that 40 – 50 million agree that we need a conservative party and vote accordingly, thus denying both Oboobi & Mittwit. Nonetheless, I’ll keep kneecapping the status quo until something breaks so we can recover.

AH_C on October 17, 2011 at 3:56 PM

molonlabe28 on October 17, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Riiiiiight. They want to run against Romney and that is why they are attacking him. That must be another one of those super smart reverse-reverse-reverse psychology tactics that candidate Palin was so famous for.

Oh wait….

csdeven on October 17, 2011 at 6:00 PM