Obama: MLK Jr. would have supported Occupy Wall Street

posted at 4:30 pm on October 16, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Today, as he belatedly dedicated the Martin Luther King Jr. memorial on the National Mall, President Barack Obama made the questionable claim that MLK Jr. would have supported the class-conscious and envy-motivated Occupy Wall Street movement. The Washington Times reports:

“At this moment, when our politics appear so sharply polarized, and faith in our institutions so greatly diminished, we need more than ever to take heed of Dr. King’s teachings,” Mr. Obama said, who praised King’s belief in the “creative tension of nonviolent protests.”

“If he were alive today, I believe he would remind us that the unemployed worker can rightly challenge the excesses of Wall Street without demonizing all who work there,” the president said. “Those with power and privilege will often decry any call for change as divisive. They’ll say any challenge to the existing arrangements are unwise and destabilizing. Dr. King understood that peace without justice was no peace at all.”

Interesting that Obama chose to say the OWS protesters are challenging the “excesses” of Wall Street — because the excesses of the OWS protest are precisely what would surely have been objectionable to Dr. King. The great Civil Rights leader led an intentionally moral movement — and that morality was evident both in the goal it sought and in the manner in which Civil Rights protesters sought it. The Heritage Foundation’s Carolyn Garris explains:

Dr. King believed in a fixed moral law, an anathema to moral relativists espousing subjective values. For King, a just law was “a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God.” Dr. King required that his followers lead moral lives, and he emphasized the importance of faith in the face of adversity.

The kids camped out on Wall Street haven’t exactly occupied the area with reputability. The instant gratification ideology impelling the protesters is everywhere expressed — in sleeping-bag sex, in drugged-out meltdowns, in litter-filled spaces. Even if the ends they aim for are just (arguable), they haven’t pursued them honorably. “Creative tension” arises from the challenge of expressing radical ideas in an organized manner. From what I can tell, the OWS protesters haven’t given themselves a chance to experience that tension because they give into their instincts (including the instinct to take to the streets without clearly defined goals) too quickly.

Then, too, it seems the protesters are looking less for work as they are for the material benefits of work. They fail to see that excellence is its own reward. But Martin Luther King Jr. upheld the dignity of work itself. Can you imagine an OWS protester saying what MLK Jr. said in his address at the Institute of Non-violence and Social Change in Montgomery, Ala., in December 1956?

If a man is called to be a street sweeper, he should sweep streets as Michelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music, or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, here lives a great street sweeper who did his job well.

MLK Jr. might at times have used rhetoric later in his life that suggests he would be sympathetic to the OWS protesters’ redistributive aims, but my best guess is he’d also have a few exhortations for them.

It was in poor taste for the president to make a divisive claim in his dedication of a memorial of a man who aimed to unite.

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Sunday, October 16, 2011

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canopfor on October 16, 2011 at 6:23 PM

Regarding Mr. King, if I recall that time period correctly: He was protesting the start of the Vietnam war against JFK, and continuation of the war against LBJ.

Both democrats if I recall my high school history correctly…..

Before the NEA stopped teaching it in favor of gay sex indoctrination!

Vntnrse on October 16, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Code Pink protested Iraq and Afghanistan but that doesn’t make them conservative Republicans.

darwin-t on October 16, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Well of course he would have. Because he would be part of the 99%! They are all part of the 99% because 99% includes everyone except the evil 1%! And nobody wants to be caught being apart of the evil 1%!

See? It’s all so simple and clear. If you are a good hard worker who is pure and innocent and victimized by capitalism.. you are part of the 99%! If you are an evil rich profiteer with a crooked nose who hates clean air and poor people and loves to victimize and enslave the working class.. then you are part of the 1%!

This is why some of these protestors ask right away.. “Are you part of the 1% or part of the 99%?” I listened on Hannity as he did a man in the street in this mob.. and they kept asking “Are you a part of the 1%? It’s a clever attempt to stigmatize and divide people from the beginning without having to get into any specific issues.

“The art of leadership… consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention.”
Adolf Hitler

The adversary is the 1%. The 1% will be whoever opposes the 99%’s agenda. The 99% of course, being the Marxists who are behind the scenes orchestrating the mob.

JellyToast on October 16, 2011 at 6:25 PM

MLK, Jr., was a proponent of individual responsibility.

Voter from WA State on October 16, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Human Events: Why Martin Luther King Was Republican

petefrt on October 16, 2011 at 6:25 PM

Come on, Barry. We all know where this is leading. It’s headed to the only strategy you have to win ’12, White guilt. I hope at least one of your advisors has told you this ain’t 1866 or 1946. It’s a strategy gone to mold.

Limerick on October 16, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Obama will be crushed between opposing forces (unlike the middle class he’s hoping to crush). He’s a pawn.

disa on October 16, 2011 at 6:34 PM

No Niks:Good catch,with the re-election sign,it speaks for itself!

canopfor on October 16, 2011 at 6:07 PM

agree

cmsinaz on October 16, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Vntnrse on October 16, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Code Pink protested Iraq and Afghanistan but that doesn’t make them conservative Republicans.

darwin-t on October 16, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Cindy Sheehan was one of those arrested today at Occupy Sacramento.

Del Dolemonte on October 16, 2011 at 6:35 PM

petefrt on October 16, 2011 at 6:25 PM

good linky

cmsinaz on October 16, 2011 at 6:36 PM

Was MLK jr a Democrat?

Dr Evil on October 16, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Obama: MLK Jr. would have supported Occupy Wall Street

Just as likely: MLK Jr. would have supported Herman Cain.

petefrt on October 16, 2011 at 6:42 PM

Was MLK jr a Democrat?

Dr Evil on October 16, 2011 at 6:39 PM

What does it matter? We know who is today.

Limerick on October 16, 2011 at 6:42 PM

Was MLK jr a Democrat?

Dr Evil on October 16, 2011 at 6:39 PM

No, though the Dems would like you to think it.

See Human Events: Why Martin Luther King Was Republican

petefrt on October 16, 2011 at 6:44 PM

For all the black American’s here in our nation, please listen to what bho and all those who are for you are doing? Dr. King wanted equal but not I get more than you have justice. bho(and so many black congress and so called reverends) spins and pits races against each other for HIM and what he can get your votes. Please, black voters look, learn, study, and make a rational judement on who works for you. Thank you for your attention.
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letget on October 16, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Cindy Sheehan was one of those arrested today at Occupy Sacramento.

Del Dolemonte on October 16, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Surely you jest. If not, keep us posted, pls.

petefrt on October 16, 2011 at 6:47 PM

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/10/16/3982704/anti-war-activist-sheehan-joins.html

Anti-war mom Cindy Sheehan – one of the biggest names in the peace movement, was arrested along with 18 other demonstrators at Cesar Chavez Park early Sunday, police said.

Sheehan, 53, was booked into Sacramento County Jail at 3:15 a.m. for unlawful assembly in the park and failing to follow police orders to disburse, police said.

Del Dolemonte on October 16, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Obama: MLK Jr. would have supported Occupy Wall Street

MLK jr would have organized a bunch of white kids, who can’t verbalize what they are protesting against? This is what Obama want’s to go with? Really?

This sure looks desperate.

Dr Evil on October 16, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Why not? He supported the Viet Cong.

ncborn on October 16, 2011 at 4:33 PM

I’ve never heard that before. Could you provide a link to some documentation on that?

listens2glenn on October 16, 2011 at 4:50 PM

This may not be documentation but it shows someone else remembers what I assert.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/1/martin-luther-king-jrs-mixed-legacy/

ncborn on October 16, 2011 at 7:02 PM

It’s really hard to believe Obama thinks linking himself to OWS is a good strategy. Either he truly has no idea what trouble he’s in or he does and he is totally desperate. There is no telling what will happenbetweennow and election day or what lengths he will go to and I am really not a conspiracy person but just damn

ldbgcoleman on October 16, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 16, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Thanks, maybe now she’ll get a bath. And maybe now, her son who gave his life for our country can stop rolling over in his grave. RIP.

petefrt on October 16, 2011 at 7:05 PM

When an opponent gives you a gift like this. Just sit back and enjoy

willardcsmith on October 16, 2011 at 7:07 PM

obama was more influenced by the weather underground and the black panthers( in that order-he appears to be a marxist totalitarian first before he’s a ‘ black’ man) than the civil right movement of the late 50s/early 60s and MLK jr. but he’ll say anything to get a fig leaf of support from anyone, even a bunch of bored over indulged white virtual mall rats who like himself have never worked a day in their lives. jesus and the buddha are next to support violent manarchists and union thugs. we already know mohammad is down with them.

the hijackers of the civil rights -the sundry manifestations of violent anti-white racism and outright gangster criminality- made fun of and loathed king because he directly rejected the likes of malcolm x. the panthers called him martin luther coon. he shifted left-the movement had been redirected into a revenge trip and the early nonviolent leaders who believed or professed to believe in character over race were marginalized. king may not have been a saint in his personal life and he may have swerved toward socialism later but he was something OWS is not- dedicated to non-violence and against race hustling. he didn’t dream of and advocate for a world where black men oppress white people, a world where we look at skin color to assess the person- the world the left has re-created for itself to leverage power.

and johnson was a tool( and a bully)-pushing the kennedys’ civil rights act was to leverage control of votes and voting blacks and cement his power by getting the dixiecrats in line. mlk jr. was correct to call johnson out as using civil rights for his own advantage not for the betterment of african americans. eisenhower, a republican, personally originated and signed 2 civil rights acts before 1964 and gets no recognition. he even asked congress to pass the equal rights amendment for women. nary a peep.

meanwhile black republicans sue the democrat party and obambi for racism!

http://tinyurl.com/3z2y5dy
http://tinyurl.com/5vwbcb9

“The plaintiffs, who refer to the defendants[including hussein obama]as “Father of Racism,” allege that as an organization, the Democratic Party has consistently refused to apologize for the role they played in slavery and Jim Crow laws and for other subsequent racist practices from 1792 to 2011.”

mittens on October 16, 2011 at 7:08 PM

mittens on October 16, 2011 at 7:08 PM

*applause*

*applause*

*applause*

You know your our history, and please keep it out front.

petefrt on October 16, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Code Pink protested Iraq and Afghanistan but that doesn’t make them conservative Republicans.

darwin-t on October 16, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Hmmmm……just who brought the US into those wars? Could his name have been Bush?

Very interesting! If I read this all correctly your comment does not negate the mine!

Vntnrse on October 16, 2011 at 7:20 PM

, I believe he would remind us that the unemployed worker can rightly challenge the excesses of Wall Street without demonizing all who work there,” the president said.

Too bad the president is incapable of doing the same.

DrAllecon on October 16, 2011 at 7:35 PM

No Niks:Good catch,with the re-election sign,it speaks for itself!

canopfor on October 16, 2011 at 6:07 PM
agree

cmsinaz on October 16, 2011 at 6:35 PM

cmsinaz:)

canopfor on October 16, 2011 at 7:38 PM

What an indecent oaf Obama is.

Schadenfreude on October 16, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Obama: MLK Jr. would have supported Occupy Wall Street

Oh, yeahhhh, Barry…he would have been soooo proud.

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=30755

Dopenstrange on October 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Hot of zee press’s!
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Activist West arrested in Supreme Court protest
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Author, commentator, civil rights activist and Princeton University professor Cornel West has been arrested while protesting on the steps of the Supreme Court about corporate influence in politics.

A Supreme Court spokeswoman says 19 people were arrested Sunday afternoon after they refused to leave the grounds of the court.
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canopfor on October 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM

At some point someone somewhere is going to point out to Obama that HE is President and the protesters are AGAINST his policies.

One of my favorite quotes of the weekend was from Axelrod. He claimed that the OWS people were FOR the already passed financial bill congress rammed through last year. If they were for that bill, WHY would they be out protesting AGAINST it?

Any way you want to slice up this protest, it is NOT in favor of any part of the establishment. Obama IS the ESTABLISHMENT!

Freddy on October 16, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Code Pink protested Iraq and Afghanistan but that doesn’t make them conservative Republicans.

darwin-t on October 16, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Hmmmm……just who brought the US into those wars? Could his name have been Bush?

Very interesting! If I read this all correctly your comment does not negate the mine!

Vntnrse on October 16, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Actually, Bush did not start a war with Afghanistan. The Taliban started that one.

But then, I doubt the truth has much to do with your fantasies.

Freddy on October 16, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Breaking News,from various OWS Protests!
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‘Occupy Wall Street’ protest
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http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/occupy-wall-street-protest?q=occupy-wall-street-protest

canopfor on October 16, 2011 at 8:08 PM

I bet this is the normal Obama statement that fact checking will prove to be wrong…. again.

sadatoni on October 16, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Freddy on October 16, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Freddy, I agree that the Taliban and Al Quaida were the instigators of both of those wars. The point remains though, that Code Pink was demonstrating their anger with Bush for getting the US involved in Iraq and MLK was demonstrating his anger with JFK and LBJ for getting the US involved in Vietnam.

Vntnrse on October 16, 2011 at 8:43 PM

NO he wouldn’t
MLK was a republican!

xler8bmw on October 16, 2011 at 8:43 PM

************* Heres the video *********************

Obama Turns MLK Memorial Speech into a Campaign Speech
Added: 7 hours ago Occurred On: Oct-16-2011
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Well, he’s capitalist in at least one way. Capitalizing on the dedication of the MLK memorial to deliver a campaign speech in that that stupid preachy tone he takes when talking to a primarily black audience.
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7cd_1318784881

canopfor on October 16, 2011 at 8:57 PM

MLK, Sr AND Jr were Republicans.

Dandapani on October 16, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Whoever wrote that campaign speech, uh, I mean memorial dedication speech did a darn fine job. He melded MLK with BHO into one person, who either did his best and gave his all, or is doing his best and fighting the good fight even there are those who don’t appreciate it. Barry never misses a chance to inject himself into another persons achievements. Betcha he was thinkin’ he’s gonna have him a bigger statue some day.

Kissmygrits on October 16, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Guess……………….. they forget da Doctor’s teach’n…… when it comes to unborn children………….. that’s right….it’s above his pay grade.

roflmao

donabernathy on October 16, 2011 at 9:14 PM

“Regarding Mr. King, if I recall that time period correctly: He was protesting the start of the Vietnam war against JFK, and continuation of the war against LBJ.

Both democrats if I recall my high school history correctly…..

Before the NEA stopped teaching it in favor of gay sex indoctrination!

Vntnrse on October 16, 2011 at 6:17 PM”

When did you you choose to be straight? I did not choose to be gay, in fact I fought it for far, far too long. The indoctrination is to hate those who find themselves to be gay. May God help you understand.

SC.Charlie on October 16, 2011 at 9:18 PM

M.L.K.s Daughter’s ‘Economic Justice’ Rant At His Memorial
Bernice King
Added: 8 hours ago Occurred On: Oct-16-2011
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4fb_1318781256

canopfor on October 16, 2011 at 9:19 PM

LOL..For once Obama is correct. MLK would have supported #OccupyWallStreet, Van Jones, along with Pigford and every other left wing re-distributive Marxist initiative that the progressives can dream up.

OneCleverCookie on October 16, 2011 at 9:33 PM

OneCleverCookie on October 16, 2011 at 9:33 PM

Right…so long as the “King” family was compensated for using his …image, name, quotes and a check in perpetuity!

That’s a fact Jack…..the Kings want to ride this pony as long as they can….keep the ball rollin’ ( Jay and the Techniques )…keep the dough rollin…that’s the name of the game.

Folks…..( sarc on ) these….”survivors” could care less…less than guilty whites do about MLK. He’s like Johnson & Johnson…the medicine that keeps on giving.

Do you actually think that the Kings…”work” for a living?

Kind of reminds me of what they said about Yoko ONo…she survives off of dead Beatles.

Twana on October 16, 2011 at 9:45 PM

M.L.K.s Daughter’s ‘Economic Justice’ Rant At His Memorial
Bernice King
Added: 8 hours ago Occurred On: Oct-16-2011
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4fb_1318781256

canopfor on October 16, 2011 at 9:19 PM

The same Bernice King who said that Abraham Lincoln signed the Declaration of Independence.….okay maybe some day this country will get taken down, but not by these fools, not even on one of their good days. It’s like they are a parody of every bad black stereotype, in every bad black exploitation movie.

Dr Evil on October 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM

And nobody wants to be caught being apart of the evil 1%!

JellyToast on October 16, 2011 at 6:25 PM

oh, I don’t know about that.

Let me try it for about 5 years or so, and then I’ll get back to you.

dissent555 on October 16, 2011 at 10:11 PM

“If he were alive today, I believe he would remind us that the unemployed worker can rightly challenge the excesses of Wall Street without demonizing all who work there,” the president (WHO DEMONIZES EVERYONE THAT OPPOSES HIM) said.

……and yes, Obama is correct. MLK would be right there with Sharpton, Jackson, Maxine Waters, and the CBC and all the race baiters. And he might even decry Herman Cain as a “SELLOUT” or worse.

MLK was no saint, and we all better realize it.

PappyD61 on October 16, 2011 at 10:12 PM

MLK was no saint, and we all better realize it.

And I wonder….what would he really say about the poverty pimps…the new racial divide after we have a “black” POTUS?

Would he still be bitchin”? After he attained all he wanted?

Twana on October 16, 2011 at 10:18 PM

MLK was no saint, and we all better realize it.

Yea….and I wonder if he’d be supporting all the poverty pimps he got into the race business?

Twana on October 16, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Vntnrse on October 16, 2011 at 6:17 PM”

When did you you choose to be straight? I did not choose to be gay, in fact I fought it for far, far too long. The indoctrination is to hate those who find themselves to be gay. May God help you understand.

SC.Charlie on October 16, 2011 at 9:18 PM

The fact is you chose it no matter how long it may have taken you to decide what you wanted to do.

I chose to learn history in my history classes.

I also suspect that I’m quite a bit older then you may be.

I learned from my daughters, that they were taught NOT to hate homosexuality, in fact they were taught that they should embrace it! Fortunately I taught them to make their own decisions regarding their sexuality, and they have.

Vntnrse on October 16, 2011 at 10:38 PM

MLK would have supported 9-9-9 baby!!!!

faraway on October 16, 2011 at 10:51 PM

As a palate cleaner to all this OWS inanity, check out — WE ARE THE 53%. It is an inspirational collection of photos and artwork.

Mutnodjmet on October 16, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Obama doesn’t know shit about what Dr. King would have supported or not supported. Obama is totally disconnected from the civil rights movement. Here’s a guy who’s part white and part African, grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia, about as far away from the ghetto or the South as ne can get. What a douchebag he is.

Ward Cleaver on October 17, 2011 at 12:02 AM

bayam on October 16, 2011 at 7:48 PM

You are a fool for posting this.

In CA there are almost 50 healthcare programs which pay for what ails her.

Don’t pull on our strings when you know not what you write.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2011 at 12:51 AM

Of course Obama supports OWS.

His first campaign website was MyBO.com.

And we all know that OWS is full to the brim with BO.

BKennedy on October 17, 2011 at 3:44 AM

What a douchebag he is.

Ward Cleaver on October 17, 2011 at 12:02 AM

But Obama is authentic because he’s “down with the struggle”. Still don’t know what that really means, other than “hates whitey and white corporate America” but I guess it’s just one of those “black things” I’m not meant to understand.

Extrafishy on October 17, 2011 at 5:50 AM

When all else fails, rely on MLK, Jr. It’s a shame the man has become such a crutch today for Obama.

RDE2010 on October 17, 2011 at 7:33 AM

The fact is you chose it no matter how long it may have taken you to decide what you wanted to do.

I chose to learn history in my history classes.

I also suspect that I’m quite a bit older then you may be.

I learned from my daughters, that they were taught NOT to hate homosexuality, in fact they were taught that they should embrace it! Fortunately I taught them to make their own decisions regarding their sexuality, and they have.

Vntnrse on October 16, 2011 at 10:38 PM

I did not choose to do anything accept to accept the fact that I am gay. I’m sixty. My acceptance occurred just four years ago. I am have always been celibate. When I realized that I was gay in the 1960s it was still considered mental illness. I bought into that doctrine. It has been a lonely life.

SC.Charlie on October 17, 2011 at 7:39 AM

Shorter Obama:

‘The world has pretty much figured out that whatever I say is just bullshit, so I’ve started making up opinions and quotes from dead people who earned a lot more respect than I ever will”

BobMbx on October 16, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Hehehe, excellent!

Lourdes on October 17, 2011 at 8:23 AM

M.L.K.s Daughter’s ‘Economic Justice’ Rant At His Memorial
Bernice King
Added: 8 hours ago Occurred On: Oct-16-2011
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4fb_1318781256

canopfor on October 16, 2011 at 9:19 PM

The same Bernice King who said that Abraham Lincoln signed the Declaration of Independence.….okay maybe some day this country will get taken down, but not by these fools, not even on one of their good days. It’s like they are a parody of every bad black stereotype, in every bad black exploitation movie.

Dr Evil on October 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM

In all due respect for Dr. King, his daughter appears to suffer some sort of psychological impairment.

Was listening to Fox News the other morning and she appeared, was asked a very, very simple question, then she went on and on and On in an extended spiel that became a rant of an immensely drawn-out one sentence diatribe. It was impossible to even understand what her “answer” to the question she was asked was, and apparently she didn’t know either, nor even respond to the “question” she was asked so much as use a microphone to lapse into some sort of babble that was both meaningless and horrifically harassing of anyone unfortunate enough to be in ear distance of her voice on that broadcast.

I commend FOX for not turning off her microphone, despite the embarrassing (for her) nuttiness of her use of their network.

Lourdes on October 17, 2011 at 8:30 AM

He probably would. RFK warned him to dissociate himself and his movement from Communists, to no avail.

Akzed on October 17, 2011 at 8:58 AM

When did you you choose to be straight? I did not choose to be gay, in fact I fought it for far, far too long. The indoctrination is to hate those who find themselves to be gay. May God help you understand. SC.Charlie on October 16, 2011 at 9:18 PM

So you’re for indoctrinating children on the glories of sodomy?

I guess they have WiFi at the OWS camp.

Akzed on October 17, 2011 at 9:06 AM

So you’re for indoctrinating children on the glories of sodomy?

I guess they have WiFi at the OWS camp.

Akzed on October 17, 2011 at 9:06 AM

A typical Akzed remark. I am not going to get into a pointless discussion with a someone who is convinced that being homosexual is the ultimate sin. Oh, yes, you only believe that it is only a sin if you act upon it. And, I just disclosed that I never have. If you want to condemn anyone who glorifies sodomy pick up a copy of Cosmopolitan magazine whose readers are heterosexuals. It appears that these comments have gotten off the topic of the thread.

SC.Charlie on October 17, 2011 at 9:49 AM

It appears that these comments have gotten off the topic of the thread. SC.Charlie on October 17, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Why passive voice?

Akzed on October 17, 2011 at 10:19 AM

May God help you understand.

SC.Charlie on October 16, 2011 at 9:18 PM

Ya know, another thing that makes me wonder is why “gay” people hope “God helps me to understand”, but they refuse to accept God’s word regarding homosexuality being an abomination before him. Leviticus 18:22 (the Levites were selected to be God’s priests and Leviticus was written as his laws for them to teach) says “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman. That is detestable before God”.

Too old Testament for ya?

How about 1 Corinthians 6:9, which says, “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be decieved: Neitherr the sexually immoral not idolators not adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves, the greedy, drunkards, slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kngdom of God.”

TINA: sorry for remaining off topic but the ad hominem attacks simply must be answered in my humble opinion

SC: as I said before, You chose

The good thing is that God says hate the sin, but love the sinner….there is a way to “wash your sins away”

Vntnrse on October 17, 2011 at 4:34 PM

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