Video: Florida hotel worker fired for wearing American flag lapel pin

posted at 3:30 pm on October 15, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Normally in these cases, my sympathy tends to run towards employers, who have the legal right to set uniform and presentation policies, especially in public positions.  Barring the display of pins on a uniform is not unreasonable, as adopting a laissez-faire attitude might end up with a whole lot of political messages seem as though they represent the views of management rather than individual employees.  As a former mid-level manager in a corporation, I also know how difficult life can get when exceptions get made to policy, and suddenly every employee wants an exception for their own pet causes.

With all that said, why make a point of firing someone over a flag pin?

Note that the hotel doesn’t deny that this was the basis for the termination:

“The Casa Monica Hotel located in St. Augustine, Florida, is an American-based, homegrown historic hotel,” the email reads. “The property reflects its pride in America and great patriotism by flying the Stars and Stripes high over the hotel. The American flag greets every guest and employee with its symbolism of our belief in this great country.”

“However, our employee handbook clearly states, ‘No other buttons, badges, pins or insignias of any kind are permitted to be worn.’ No matter an individual’s national preference, political views or religious affiliation, it is a standard regulation which ensures equality for all Grand Performers (employees).”

Again, it’s not difficult to see how a few exceptions to this rule would result in perpetual management headaches, but the “national preference” for one’s own country doesn’t seem all that indefensible as a singular exception, either. Whatever headaches this one exception would have caused, it can’t equal the public-relations nightmare of admitting that the hotel fired someone for being a little too patriotic. One county commissioner, who served two terms in Iraq, offered some common-sense wisdom:

St. Johns county Commissioner Mark Miner issued this statement on the issue:

“The Casa Monica Hotel and Kessler Enterprise certainly have the legal right to forbid their employees from wearing an American flag pin. However, their inability to discern between the flag of our nation and other pins and buttons that their policies forbid is of great concern to me. St. Johns County is home to nearly 20,000 military veterans and is made up of an ideologically and culturally diverse population whose collective love for the United States is second to none. I want to make clear that the actions taken by the Casa Monica Hotel and Kessler Enterprise do not represent the patriotism shared by St. Johns County residents and businesses.”

“I hope Kessler Enterprise will act quickly to correct the disrespect they have shown the flag of our great nation and end the embarrassment they have brought upon St. Johns County.”

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Rules are rules.

Akzed on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Millions out of work, and Hot Air is crying about a piece of “Freedom Flair” manufactured in China.

Priorities.

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

I wonder if they would have fired the employee for wearing a pink ribbon during breast cancer awareness week. Politically correct causes are usually given a pass.

Just sayin’.

UltimateBob on October 15, 2011 at 3:35 PM

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to click on anything. If you don’t like it here, just go away.

UltimateBob on October 15, 2011 at 3:36 PM

I could see if the employee was in a foreign country and wanted to wear the lapel pin flag, but come on.
It’s not like she had a FOUR MORE YEARS OF THE SAME SH*T Obama re-election pin.

HornetSting on October 15, 2011 at 3:37 PM

UltimateBob on October 15, 2011 at 3:35 PM

But then whaddya gonna do when Infectious Diarrhea Awareness Week rolls around?

Man it’s coming up soon. It seems like I just put away the IDAW decorations and now I gotta get em out again!

Akzed on October 15, 2011 at 3:38 PM

I won’t be staying there.
Mostly because I haven’t had a vacation day in several years, but still.

TABoLK on October 15, 2011 at 3:39 PM

UltimateBob on October 15, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Thanks, second that!
L

letget on October 15, 2011 at 3:39 PM

Maybe the Olive Garden could hire him for a little damage control.

Firmworm on October 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM

But then whaddya gonna do when Infectious Diarrhea Awareness Week rolls around?

Man it’s coming up soon. It seems like I just put away the IDAW decorations and now I gotta get em out again!

Akzed on October 15, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Are you comparing Infectious Diarrhea Awareness to the American flag?
If you have this problem, please take some BIFIDIS…he’s the anecdote for regular bowel movements…mostly from his mouth.

HornetSting on October 15, 2011 at 3:42 PM

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Maybe not important to you, but just another example of the ongoing disrespect of this country. So, what are you doing to create jobs? Hanging out at an OWS rally?

chewmeister on October 15, 2011 at 3:42 PM

The company should change the policy to state that one pin is allowed if it reflects the nationality of the location of the place of business.

For example, a Mexican flag by employees of a hotel in Mexico or Canadian flag by employees at a hotel in Canada, etc.

crosspatch on October 15, 2011 at 3:43 PM

Why not make the policy:

“Each employee shall also afix to their uniforms an American Flag lapel pin. The company will provide the pins free of charge. Any employee refusing to wear the pin will be terminated”

BobMbx on October 15, 2011 at 3:43 PM

Sean May holds an American flag pin he says he’s worn to work every day for the last two years.

So why after two years does the hotel get upset about it now?

sharrukin on October 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM

I’m just wondering (the video isn’t working for me at the moment), was the employee given an opportunity to remove the pin or a warning about wearing it in the future?

A lot of details can be left out of a scenario like this one. If this employee was under-performing, he could have been let go with this reason as the culminating factor of a cumulative collection of transgressions.

BKeyser on October 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

millions out of work and bifidis is crying about hotair not posting on his topic of choice.

start your own blog ya tool!!

chasdal on October 15, 2011 at 3:45 PM

BobMbx on October 15, 2011 at 3:43 PM
+1000

chewmeister on October 15, 2011 at 3:46 PM

The company should change the policy to state that one pin is allowed if it reflects the nationality of the location of the place of business.

For example, a Mexican flag by employees of a hotel in Mexico or Canadian flag by employees at a hotel in Canada, etc.

crosspatch on October 15, 2011 at 3:43 PM

+1

And they can even regulate the size as well.

sharrukin on October 15, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Nevermind- just read the linked piece. It seems he was given the opportunity to take the pin off or lose his job; he chose the latter. This was his decision.

BKeyser on October 15, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Priorities.

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Where have you been ?

Have you read about OWS? Fast and Furious The GOP race? The Iraq war?
The US sending troops to Uganda?Another Obamacare failure? A detective framing innocent people? Solyndra?

I have. Just today at Hotair. Go elsewhere scumbag troll.

CW on October 15, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Here’s my rule: if its ok for the hotel to fly this symbol on a flagpole for all to see (as kind of an official statement of patriotism) then it is OK for an employee to wear the exact same symbol on his/her uniform.

Simple.

Always Right on October 15, 2011 at 3:47 PM

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

<blockquote>millions out of work and bifidis is crying about hotair not posting on his topic of choice.

start your own blog ya tool!!

chasdal on October 15, 2011 at 3:45 PM

P W N D

CW on October 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM

There’s a big difference looking like a TGIFridays waiter and a simple American flag on the lapel.

Kini on October 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM

A lot of details can be left out of a scenario like this one. If this employee was under-performing, he could have been let go with this reason as the culminating factor of a cumulative collection of transgressions.

BKeyser on October 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Then they should have stated that as the reason.

chewmeister on October 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Millions out of work, and Hot Air is crying about a piece of “Freedom Flair” manufactured in China.

Priorities.

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

The highest levels of government are under investigation and subpoena for illegally selling guns to Mexican drug dealers, financing political campaign contributors failed “green” businesses and Bifidis is worried about HotAir.

Hey Bif, are you going to vote for Obama in 2012?

BobMbx on October 15, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Rules is rules, just sayin.

KMC1 on October 15, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Occupy Casa Monica

faraway on October 15, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Always Right on October 15, 2011 at 3:47 PM
Exactly. His defense should be that he was only following the example set forth by his employer.

chewmeister on October 15, 2011 at 3:55 PM

I don’t like the choices. How about, “The Hotel is free to piss off people and have many boycott their establishment.”

NotCoach on October 15, 2011 at 3:56 PM

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

I would say…that your dream is probably to have all conservative thought and opinion outlawed, and banned. That all are forced to sway to your way of thinking and opinion, then all will be utopian and happy.

Well it’s not happened. Yet! In the mean time, we all STILL have freedoms. As was said, if you don’t like the content here, there are several communists sites you can visit, and probably would enjoy. Please go there, and stop griping about the content that’s put here.

capejasmine on October 15, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Then they should have stated that as the reason.

chewmeister on October 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Well, maybe, but the reason could have been consistent lateness, a poor customer service and disruption among other employees as well as improper uniform. If the uniform issue was the last straw, then that would be the stated reason. It might also tarnish his chances for future employment elsewhere were the company to air all their grievances. Sometimes less is enough.

It’s relatively moot however since the employee was given an opportunity to remove the pin and keep his job.

BKeyser on October 15, 2011 at 3:59 PM

Yay! My neck of the woods. I’ll never understand how the American flag can offend anyone in America.

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2011 at 4:03 PM

Here’s my rule: if its ok for the hotel to fly this symbol on a flagpole for all to see (as kind of an official statement of patriotism) then it is OK for an employee to wear the exact same symbol on his/her uniform.

Simple.

Always Right on October 15, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Now all you have to do is get the hotel to adopt your rule. For now it is their rule, for reasons it is up to them to decide. Maybe they have a lot of Democrats there and it was scaring away their guests.

pedestrian on October 15, 2011 at 4:07 PM

I wonder if they would have fired the employee for wearing a pink ribbon during breast cancer awareness week. Politically correct causes are usually given a pass.

Just sayin’.

UltimateBob on October 15, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Bingo.

WitchDoctor on October 15, 2011 at 4:10 PM

We used to celebrate America, our culture and values. Now it’s controversial to do so. Internationalism, multi-culturalism, and collectivism are the new flag pin. Patriotism is passé, backward, and offensive to others.

This is a culture war. Are we going to pretend that cultures, philosophies, traditions, and values that lead to oppression and poverty are the same as those that lead to liberty, prosperity and innovation? Or are we going to fight for the right to celebrate our values?

I believe that an employer has the right to mandate uniforms and forbid flag pins. But I also believe that employees and customers have the right to challenge these policies. Good for this employee for fighting this fight. I hope customers will make their feelings known, too, both by contacting the hotel and by choosing to stay at hotels that consider openly patriotic employees an asset.

Cara C on October 15, 2011 at 4:10 PM

I wonder if the 2-year thing might have been that someone came in wearing a Mexican flag pin, or a rainbow flag pin, or the like, and when asked to remove it, said “Oh yea…well Sean gets to wear his American flag pin!”

Or a preemptive strike, knowing that the above was about to happen.

eeyore on October 15, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Nice hotel. Understandable rule. Insubordinate employee.

steebo77 on October 15, 2011 at 4:16 PM

While I am sympathetic to him my opinion is that if his boss said to take it off then he should have taken it off.

NeoKong on October 15, 2011 at 4:18 PM

So let me get this straight. If Michael Moore could be convinced to get off his Cheetos munching butt and become one of the lowly unwashed masses, he could work at this hotel so long as he doesn’t wear his sickle and hammer flag pin and (for special days) his Cuban flag pin?

MeatHeadinCA on October 15, 2011 at 4:22 PM

If the employer had a smidgeon of intelligence, they would have written the rule to expressly exclude the flag pins of whatever host nation they are located in.

WitchDoctor on October 15, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Keep in mind he wasn’t fired for wearing an American flag.

He was fired for wearing a pin.

BobMbx on October 15, 2011 at 4:23 PM

I believe that an employer has the right to mandate uniforms and forbid flag pins. But I also believe that employees and customers have the right to challenge these policies.

Cara C on October 15, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Followed by the right of the private business owner to say, buh-bye.

Ronnie on October 15, 2011 at 4:24 PM

I understand not wanting employees wearing buttons. A flag pin is totally something else. This is just imbecilic on the hotel’s part.

Southernblogger on October 15, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Followed by the right of the private business owner to say, buh-bye.

Ronnie on October 15, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Followed by the right of the customers to say the same thing about staying there.

sharrukin on October 15, 2011 at 4:29 PM

I understand not wanting employees wearing buttons. A flag pin is totally something else. This is just imbecilic on the hotel’s part.

Southernblogger on October 15, 2011 at 4:28 PM

yep.

CW on October 15, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Although I agree that a uniform is justified, and rules are rules, the American flag pins, sadly, have become a political statement.

JetBoy on October 15, 2011 at 4:31 PM

sharrukin on October 15, 2011 at 4:29 PM

And North Florida is not a place where people give a squirt about whiny lib sensibilities. Bad PR move for the hotel.

Southernblogger on October 15, 2011 at 4:33 PM

I remember checking into Marriott Hotels all over the country. They had a “No Flag” policy too.

However…each employees name tag included their country of origin. And the company issued these pins as part of their uniforms…but NO FLAG pins! It made for interesting conversation and allow the chain to demonstrate that they hired from all over the planet.

Twana on October 15, 2011 at 4:33 PM

It’s relatively moot however since the employee was given an opportunity to remove the pin and keep his job.

BKeyser on October 15, 2011 at 3:59 PM

I have to agree with you. I think he was foolish to get fired over this. He chose a suicide attack when other avenues were more likely to succeed.

Since it wasn’t an issue for 2 years, it seems likely that removing it then and appealing the rule would have succeeded. If not immediately, a simple leak to the media would have ensured that it would eventually.

Even Better: Suggest that ALL employees wear flags for they nationality. IT would promote a spirit of global unity, National Pride and make for easier targeting by the INS.

OBQuiet on October 15, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Bad PR move for the hotel.

Southernblogger on October 15, 2011 at 4:33 PM

That is the stupid part. It isn’t what you can do but also what you should do. They seemed fine with this for two years and then they suddenly decide to damage their reputation like this? Idiocy.

sharrukin on October 15, 2011 at 4:37 PM

And North Florida is not a place where people give a squirt about whiny lib sensibilities.

Right you are. It’s only the 3 most southern counties ( Jerusalem / Tel Aviv West ) and escapees from Long Island that dictate the insanity of their former prisons in the northeast. That and the Aventura mall crowd that Debbie Wasserman-Schmutz represents.

It’s in these places too that a man like Alan West can be mocked mercilessly too….they just can’t use the “N” word yet…although they want to.

Twana on October 15, 2011 at 4:38 PM

American flag pins, sadly, have become a political statement.

JetBoy on October 15, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Sadly?

Ronnie on October 15, 2011 at 4:38 PM

Dumb controversy. From what I have read the hotel is 100% right. The employee comes off in interviews like a jerk, demanding that his boss “negotiate” with him about the rules. He was warned to stop wearing the pin but continued to come to work with it on just to tweak his boss. I’d fire him too for being an insubordinate a–hole.

There is an important rule in management, and managers ignore it at their peril. It’s called the “Hot Stove” principle. If anyone at any time violates a rule, especially if given warning in advance, they need to be punished for it without exception. Breaking a rule thus becomes like touching a hot stove — burns you every single time so you learn to stop doing it.

I bet this hotel recently hired a new HR director who decided the old one had let standards and discipline slip.

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Attack of the drama people!

Seriously, they’re just trying to run a hotel. They said they like the flag and fly the flag. That’s good enough.

Why not leave them alone rather than drag them into an overwrought emotional drama about patriotism (or anything else)? Why pick fights with people who fly the flag — over uniform policy details?

The left does this crap. The right should know better.

Kohath on October 15, 2011 at 4:44 PM

One other thing — this is one of the oldest hotels in America. It has a very antique luxury appearance, maintained by both the decor and staff uniforms. I can see why buttons or pins would be jarring.

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 4:44 PM

O’bama and my Democrats have thrown millions out of work, and Hot Air is crying about a piece of “Freedom Flair” manufactured in China.

Priorities.

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2011 at 4:47 PM

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Bolding stupid doesn’t make it smart.

lorien1973 on October 15, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Hmmm. The hotel is a Marriott property.

Kini on October 15, 2011 at 4:52 PM

American flag pins, sadly, have become a political statement.

JetBoy on October 15, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Tell us why you get “sad” whenever you see one. I don’t.

PS, BenJarvus Green-Ellis says hey!

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2011 at 4:52 PM

would be jarring.

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 4:44 PM

Oh no. Not jarring.//

FO dipstick.

CW on October 15, 2011 at 4:56 PM

The hotel flies an American flag, so I think the patriotism argument goes out the window. It really was just because it was a pin.

Ronnie on October 15, 2011 at 4:56 PM

“However, our employee handbook clearly states, ‘No other buttons, badges, pins or insignias of any kind are permitted to be worn.’ No matter an individual’s national preference, political views or religious affiliation, it is a standard regulation which ensures equality for all Grand Performers (employees).”

..so, I’m guessing that this firm doesn’t want their employees to wear any “flair”.

The War Planner on October 15, 2011 at 4:56 PM

The rule is fine in principle, but the failure to make an exception for the American flag is stupid. Management’s actions in this particular case is even stupider.

Is this a case of the same kind of authoritarian pettiness and refusal to take responsibility for adjusting the application of policy to circumstances that underlies every idiotic “zero tolerance” rule? And you have to wonder what else is going on here, if this man was allowed to wear the pin for two years. Why did it suddenly become an issue?

In any case, I suspect the idiots in management behind this decision are going to be taught the same lesson as the Olive Garden idiots.

novaculus on October 15, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Hmmm. The hotel is a Marriott property.

Kini on October 15, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Only since last year when Marriott bought up Kessler’s hotels.

steebo77 on October 15, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Tell us why you get “sad” whenever you see one. I don’t.

PS, BenJarvus Green-Ellis says hey!

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Jet Boy never said that. I could be wrong, but I think what he’s saying is that it’s sad that some Americans (ahem Democrats) find the site of the American Flag some how … “anti-liberal,” “anti-Democrat,” and perhaps “pro-Republican.”

MeatHeadinCA on October 15, 2011 at 5:00 PM

it is a standard regulation which ensures equality for all Grand Performers (employees).”

This type of idiotic talk occurs when liberalism meets corporate America.

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Oh no. Not jarring.//

FO dipstick.

CW on October 15, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Guess you’ve never been a manager or run a business, eh? Go back to collecting your welfare check, then, and let the grown ups discuss things.

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Hmmm. The hotel is a Marriott property.

Kini on October 15, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Thanks Kini. Good to know. I was wondering if it was affiliated with a chain. That is another way to apply some leverage.

novaculus on October 15, 2011 at 5:01 PM

MeatHeadinCA on October 15, 2011 at 5:00 PM
… … … … … … …

Yeh I doubt Jet thinks it really should be looked at politically.At least his prior posts here at HA do not suggest it.

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM

This type of idiotic talk occurs when liberalism meets corporate America.

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:00 PM

No, it’s the talk of professionals who actually have to manage employees. They mean equal treatment under the rules. If no one is allowed to have a pin, this jerk isn’t either.

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Quit being so jarring. (Far too funny )

Seems I hit a nerve with you JO.
Jarring? Really? You’re hilarious. Oh and your comeback was pretty lame and not very inventive.

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Yeh I doubt Jet thinks it really should be looked at politically.At least his prior posts here at HA do not suggest it.

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Yeah, I’ll let him clarify; but I think that’s what he was getting at. And it is indeed shameful that Democrats would feel threatened by their own flag.

MeatHeadinCA on October 15, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Gotta agree with the hotel on this one. He didn’t violate the rules once but twice. He was told to take it off. He didn’t.

I understand that it was an American Flag pin, but make an exception in this case and soon it will be a state flag pin, a breast cancer awareness pin, a Smiley face pin, a four leaf clover pin, or a marijuana plant pin.

The point is, make an exception in one case, and you’ll be defending that exception in court for every case. THAT will get expensive.

eclark1849 on October 15, 2011 at 5:04 PM

No, it’s the talk of professionals who actually have to manage employees. They mean equal treatment under the rules. If no one is allowed to have a pin, this jerk isn’t either.

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM

No actually dipshite it is the talk of a company that forgets which country it is in.

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Jarring. Too too much.

AngusMc what is your native language btw?

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Poll options suck. No ‘Termination was incorrect course of action’.

clement on October 15, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Jarring. Too too much.

AngusMc what is your native language btw?

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:05 PM

I speak English. Sorry if you have trouble understanding us Americans. Where you from — Iran? North Korea?

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 5:08 PM

A dollar to a donut that the OWSers don’t think that THIS corporation is evil.

hillbillyjim on October 15, 2011 at 5:08 PM

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Your comebacks are juvenile.

You do realize nobody here where ever be “jarred” by an American flag. Sheesh you’re pathetic angry little man.

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:10 PM

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Jarring?

Damn that is funny. Your use of that word reminds me of newcomers to this country who are not sure of what words to use and some of their choices are downright entertaining. Hmmm . Like yours. Thanks buddy!

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:12 PM

…political views or religious affiliation, it is a standard regulation which ensures equality for all Grand Performers (employees).”

“Grand Performers”…lol…who writes these silly-ass employee handbooks? I know who–asswipes that take issue with and politicize a tiny American flag pin on a lone, patriotic individual. This country is becoming ridiculous thanks in great part to the countless weak men who kowtow to anti-American dipshits that get hysterical over a teeny tiny pin reflecting pride in their country. It’s never gonna end.

Where have all the cowboys gone?

RepubChica on October 15, 2011 at 5:12 PM

Their rule, the employee’s choice.

But Americans also have the freedom to object to their policy and not do business with them.

Public relations nightmare.

Common Sense on October 15, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Hmmm. The hotel is a Marriott property.

Kini on October 15, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Thanks Kini. Good to know. I was wondering if it was affiliated with a chain. That is another way to apply some leverage.

novaculus on October 15, 2011 at 5:01 PM

The Marriotts are good friends with Mittens. In fact their vast vacation spread here in NH is just up the shore from his place by about 10 miles.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2011 at 5:21 PM

Jarring?

Damn that is funny. Your use of that word reminds me of newcomers to this country who are not sure of what words to use and some of their choices are downright entertaining. Hmmm . Like yours. Thanks buddy!

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:12 PM

There’s these great things called dictionaries. Might try to use them to look up words like “jarring” that you don’t seem to know the definitions of.

Jarring means “clashing” or “incongruous” — like a bright multi-color pin on a formal black uniform.

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 5:21 PM

No, it’s the talk of professionals…

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM

“Grand Performers”?

All of these BS euphemisms for the word “employees” sound a lot like cow-splatter to me. This one is just funny though.

Grand Performers. Heh. Think of the jokes that practically write themselves…

hillbillyjim on October 15, 2011 at 5:22 PM

CW on October 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Yeah, I’ll let him clarify; but I think that’s what he was getting at. And it is indeed shameful that Democrats would feel threatened by their own flag.

MeatHeadinCA on October 15, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Just look at their Dear Leader…

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2007/10/20/obama-no-hand-heart-pledge-either-will-msm-notice

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2011 at 5:22 PM

I wonder if they would have fired the employee for wearing a pink ribbon during breast cancer awareness week. Politically correct causes are usually given a pass.

Just sayin’.

UltimateBob on October 15, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Good point. Pink is the ‘safe’ cause. I suspect some businesses fear consequences of they do not go for the pink. Others figure it might pump sales. No one crosses the pink ladies.

When I see a flag pin I feel happiness. Love of country is like love of your children. If you do not have crazy mad love for your children, they do not have your love. Sweet land of liberty. Land where my fathers died. Land of the Pilgrims’s pride. Let freedom ring. It’s a big deal or no deal at all

A flag is not just another cause. It represents the freedom that allows us to choose our causes. There’s only one flag, and it stands for everything within, and the contract to stand and defend our land, ourselves and our neighbors

When a business bans a tiny flag pin, I look at them as ingrates. Ingrates to the many who died to preserve this nation. UltimateBob is onto something. There is no hesitation on the pink, but the red, white and blue is a ‘problem’. You could not ban the lapel pin, if you loved the flag too much

entagor on October 15, 2011 at 5:25 PM

The Marriotts are good friends with Mittens. In fact their vast vacation spread here in NH is just up the shore from his place by about 10 miles.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2011 at 5:21 PM

Interesting! Not surprising though.

Kini on October 15, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Okay, I retract some of my 5:12 comment. After actually watching the vid I’m glad to see some of the menfolk resist and push back against this nonsense. Kudos to the employee and the guy, Whelan, leading the boycott. You go, cowboys. hee haw. What’s next, Conservatives linking arms and chanting We Shall Overcome to be able to proudly wear their flag?

The US flag pin looks absolutely elegant on that navy blazer. Nothing “jarring” there.

RepubChica on October 15, 2011 at 5:38 PM

If you want to keep your job, respect the rules. If you don’t like the rules, prepare to lose your job if you’re not going to follow them.

Is the management anti-American? I really can’t say. Suppose one wears the USA pin, the next day an employee wants to wear a Mexican flag pin, the latter employee is told to take it off, and files suit for discrimination.

Sadly, this is the environment that exists. I really can’t blame the person who enforced the hotel’s rules until I know more about them.

MadisonConservative on October 15, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Millions out of work We have lost 3.3 million net jobs so far under Ojesus, and Hot Air is crying about a piece of “Freedom Flair” manufactured in China.

Priorities.

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

There ya go, stooge. All fixed.

You’re welcome.

hillbillyjim on October 15, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Millions out of work We have lost 3.3 million net jobs so far under Ojesus, and Hot Air is crying about a piece of “Freedom Flair” manufactured in China.

Priorities.

bifidis on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

There ya go, stooge. All fixed.

You’re welcome.

hillbillyjim on October 15, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Apologies to Karl. I meant to link this above.

hillbillyjim on October 15, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Sadly, this is the environment that exists. I really can’t blame the person who enforced the hotel’s rules until I know more about them.

MadisonConservative on October 15, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Call me romantic, but I like to believe there are strong individuals out there who will make the exception for the flag. If you really believe that strongly in it and willing to risk your bottom line, because you know in your gut it is right, stand by it. What’s really the worse that can happen? You’re not gonna get dragged out of your bed in the dead of night never to be see and heard from again. People have faced worse than this down through the ages. Some have become famous.

RepubChica on October 15, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Rules are rules.

Akzed on October 15, 2011 at 3:33 PM

If that were true we would be speaking German and Japanese.

Speakup on October 15, 2011 at 6:19 PM

Did you know our military men and women are not allowed to wear flag pins on their uniforms? Surely the military will make an exception for the flag? It can’t possibly cause any problems to let each soldier decorate their own uniform the way they see fit, right?

Note: please turn sarcasm detector on.

When I got trained as a manager, I was taught to treat all employees equally, which meant enforcing the rules with no exceptions. If you make exceptions for one person and not others, you get into a world of troubles.

AngusMc on October 15, 2011 at 6:28 PM

But then whaddya gonna do when Infectious Diarrhea Awareness Week rolls around?

Man it’s coming up soon. It seems like I just put away the IDAW decorations and now I gotta get em out again!

Akzed on October 15, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Are you comparing Infectious Diarrhea Awareness to the American flag?
If you have this problem, please take some BIFIDIS…he’s the anecdote for regular bowel movements…mostly from his mouth.

HornetSting on October 15, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Winner! Geez . . . that hadda leave a permanent scar.

Trochilus on October 15, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Tell us why you get “sad” whenever you see one. I don’t.

PS, BenJarvus Green-Ellis says hey!

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Jet Boy never said that. I could be wrong, but I think what he’s saying is that it’s sad that some Americans (ahem Democrats) find the site of the American Flag some how … “anti-liberal,” “anti-Democrat,” and perhaps “pro-Republican.”

MeatHeadinCA on October 15, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Thanks MeatHead…at least someone knows what I meant there.

As for Del’s other jab there….

:P

JetBoy on October 15, 2011 at 6:43 PM

The caliber of the trolls around here has really shriveled lately.

OhioCoastie on October 15, 2011 at 6:56 PM

The caliber of the trolls around here has really shriveled lately.

OhioCoastie on October 15, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Ain’t that the truth?

I never thought I’d miss getalobotomy.

hillbillyjim on October 15, 2011 at 7:14 PM

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