Rick Perry’s extensive energy plan echoes Palin: “Drill, baby, drill!”

posted at 11:25 am on October 14, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Critics of the energy plan Rick Perry will introduce today say it’s “Bush and Cheney gone wild,” but it’s hard to object to common-sense proposals that would create 1.2 million jobs. When Perry delivers the first major policy speech of his campaign today at a Pittsburgh steel mill, he’ll call for expanded oil and gas production, reduced environmental regulations and revised incentives for various types of energy development.

“Getting the energy industry back to work is the quickest way to spark 1.2 million good, well-paid American jobs, and at the same time reduce our dependence on energy from nations that are all too often hostile to the United States,” Perry said in a telephone interview Thursday with USA TODAY previewing the speech at a Pittsburgh steel mill.

He vowed to reverse many of the energy policies pursued by President Obama, saying “the radical environmental movement” had been “sitting in the front of the train, being the engineer” during Obama’s tenure.

Specifically, Perry plans to permit drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) in Alaska and in expanded offshore areas; reconsider the Environmental Protection Agency’s clean-air and other regulations; repeal the EPA’s authority over CO2 and greenhouse gases; approve the Keystone XL pipeline; establish litigation deadlines to expedite lawsuits related to energy and the environment; and phase out subsidies that benefit specific kinds of energy, retaining only a research and development tax credit that benefits all energy producers (oil, gas, wind, solar, etc.).

Essentially, what Perry proposes is what this Oklahoma-bred girl has been advocating for a while now. Perry claims his plan will create 1.2 million jobs and that seems plausible. Consider: Scotland-headquartered consulting firm Wood Mackenzie — which has extensive experience analyzing oil and natural gas industry issues — recently released a study that showed the U.S. could create 1.4 million jobs, bring in an additional $800 billion in revenue and add 10 billion barrels of additional oil and gas by 2030 simply by “unleashing domestic energy.” What did Wood Mackenzie mean by that last phrase? Almost exactly what Perry plans to do:

The policy changes include opening non-park federal onshore and offshore areas to development where now prohibited, returning permitting in the Gulf of Mexico to historical levels, approving the Keystone XL and other pipelines, and establishing a regulatory environment that permits full development of the nation’s oil and gas resources, including those locked in shale formations.

Consider, too, that energy states still lead in job creation, despite the regulatory clampdown that followed the Deepwater Horizon oil spill last year.

Perry’s also right to roll back EPA regulations. The agency’s newest round of rules would cost $21 billion just to administer (i.e. that’s not the economic cost of the regs). Past a certain basic safety point, regulations rarely create value and regularly result in unintended consequences. Take just one example of regulations gone awry: After a number of oil and gas roughnecks died in flash fires, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration required rig workers to wear heavy fire-retardant clothing all the time. The result? An anecdotal increase in deaths from heatstroke. Point is: Bureaucrats don’t always understand the industries they regulate.

Regarding incentives for renewables, Perry’s plan is especially appealing. Eliminating energy-specific subsidies and instead supplying incentives for research and development in general just levels the playing field. Yes, that elimination will disproportionately affect renewable energy companies — but only because they disproportionately benefit from subsidies. Right now, for every 2 cents of subsidies for “Big Oil,” wind and solar receive $1. Basically, Perry just plans to get out of the business of picking losers. After Solyndra, that should be a solution we can all get behind.

Whether these proposals will help Perry’s chances at the presidency is almost beside the point: What matters is that he’s introducing the substance of this plan to the race. Just as Cain’s 9-9-9 plan has sparked conversation about tax reform, this plan should spark a much-needed discussion about energy policy. Let those who oppose the plan explain how the U.S. can afford to go without the more than a million jobs it would create.


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This is a straightforward and common sense plan.

However, I’m concerned about Perry’s honesty regarding ending subsidies for “renewable” energy, since he mandated Texas power to be from 10% renewables, and is a huge supporter of the boondoggle technology of wind power, to the tune of seven Billion dollars of Texas taxpayers money stringing powerlines to nowhere – wind farms that have already failed.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM

More of this, please, and less of the petty sniping and victimology.

RedRedRice on October 14, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Sigh…..I know if only we could get some kind of Occupy troll, what kind of bait would Bishop use?
Dr Evil on October 14, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Tinkling spinner.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 12:46 PM

This morning Perry went on five morning shows to sell this.

I saw him on the today show. He did great, even as Matt lauer kept trying to change the subject to religion.

I tried to catch him on the CBS show but missed him. Wow, that show looks like Good Morning Waco. I couldn’t believe that’s a national network morning show. Corpus Christi local news has a better set and anchors.

juliesa on October 14, 2011 at 12:47 PM

…repeal of the EPA’s authority to regulate CO2 and greenhouse gases

This is what is needed.

No EPA.

Let the States figure out what is environmentally sound for them and help them work on cross-border issues if they want to.

There are already plenty of State level mechanisms that companies have to pass to get to drill and mine. Why should the federal government be telling STATES what to do? That is reversed and it must be the States that ask for help on inter-state problems and when they don’t it not the business of the federal government to stick its nose in and say who must do what.

ajacksonian on October 14, 2011 at 12:47 PM

However, I’m concerned about Perry’s honesty regarding ending subsidies for “renewable” energy, since he mandated Texas power to be from 10% renewables, and is a huge supporter of the boondoggle technology of wind power, to the tune of seven Billion dollars of Texas taxpayers money stringing powerlines to nowhere – wind farms that have already failed.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Ya’ dang right! Sing it sister.

How dare that dunce want to be on the cutting edge of new technology.

What a waste of oxygen! And carbon!

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Tinkling spinner.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 12:46 PM

LOL too funny, and I walked right into that one :)

Dr Evil on October 14, 2011 at 12:50 PM

I just wish I could trust Perry to NOT grant amnesty or a path to citizenship to the 15 – 30 million illegals here which would then trigger double or triple that in chain migration later. Between romneycare and illegal immigration amnesty, who in this field can we trust to run a constitutional reduced federal government? It is a given that we have to have an aggressive national energy independence policy. We also have to drastically reign in the EPA and putting the EPA and energy under the dept of interior would be a step worth considering.

karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

When Perry delivers the first major policy speech of his campaign today at a Pittsburgh steel mill, he’ll call for expanded oil and gas production, reduced environmental regulations and revised incentives for various types of energy development.

With energy costs running at or near an all-time high, what incentive could a producer possibly need, save for getting a high price?

JohnGalt23 on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

I wish Perry had spoken up a lot sooner. This has been a no-brainer for a long time now. Everyone knows that Obozo is our greatest hindrance when it comes to achieving energy independence by sitting on drilling permits, and refusing to sign them. By opening up and drilling everywhere available, we’ll help restore the jobs situations, gas prices, and overall independence. We could be wholly self-sufficient because the US is the only nation who refines most of the world’s crude oil. The alternative fuel ideas are still not ready for primetime, at least in terms of affordability, so they can continue their research and development. In the meantime, we need to suck every resource out of the ground now. Oil sands, shale oil, and the old fashioned drilling in the Gulf will put millions back to work, and make it affordable to fill up to be able to drive back and forth to work.

stacman on October 14, 2011 at 12:58 PM

May these two be shocked!

Schadenfreude on October 14, 2011 at 12:02 PM

Oh I am so sick of those two egotistical blowhards, they really believe they can pronounce the outcome of this. And I said pronounce, not predict.

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 12:59 PM

The fact that none of the Republican candidates has made an issue of energy development and its relationship to jobs and the economy is telling in and of itself.
onlineanalyst on October 14, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Not particularly. The solution is painfully obvious to anyone not looking at it through leftist ideology. The problem is that if anyone publicly states it, it’s on record and the smear machine will go into overdrive. Perry can afford to take that chance because of his slide in popularity.

John Deaux on October 14, 2011 at 1:00 PM

I just wish I could trust Perry to NOT grant amnesty or a path to citizenship to the 15 – 30 million illegals here which would then trigger double or triple that in chain migration later. Between romneycare and illegal immigration amnesty, who in this field can we trust to run a constitutional reduced federal government? It is a given that we have to have an aggressive national energy independence policy. We also have to drastically reign in the EPA and putting the EPA and energy under the dept of interior would be a step worth considering.

karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

I had issues with this too. But I’m banking on the fact that even if he got a wild hair about something like this, he’ll be dealing with a republican controlled house and senate, so there’s literally no chance the so-called dream act would fly.

stacman on October 14, 2011 at 1:01 PM

karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

I believe you can trust Perry to do what’s right. Texas is different than the rest of the country and has a very high Hispanic population. Common sense must rule in his governing there. He DOES secure the border against criminal illegals by deploying the Rangers.

His path to citizenship is not blanket amnesty. It’s political survival in his state. I don’t expect the same solution nationally. He is a states rights advocate, so that is the place to start. If Alabama wants to prohibit illegals, I would not expect a Perry Presidency to file a lawsuit. He believes in securing the border first.

eaglesdontflock on October 14, 2011 at 1:04 PM

I totally agree, and it’s probably Palin who whispered this plan into Perry’s ear! If a Republican is elected President next year, he should promise to appoint Sarah Palin as Secretary of the Interior.

Sarah Palin unfortunately has lots of baggage, but energy IS her strong point, and she knows this issue better than anyone else.

Steve Z on October 14, 2011 at 12:13 PM

This didn’t come from Palin, Perry’s been talking about it for a long time. But no question he and Sarah agree on it because they’re both from resource- rich states. Wow, if they could be a team on this we’d be in awesome shape!

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 1:05 PM

For all of the extremely ignorant people of the country (and this thread) making the announcement in Pittsburg is of strategic importance. It was also once the home of a thriving petrochemical industry. New Plants to build in PA are being designed as you read this. They will not be built without such a comprehensive energy policy.

Use those EO’s and 1.2 million NEW JOBS in the first 100 days will be a gross underestimate.

Kermit on October 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM

eaglesdontflock on October 14, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Actually and factually Texas’ OWN border security has stemmed the tide of illegals by half.

Kermit on October 14, 2011 at 1:07 PM

This site has Gov. Perry on the Today Show, Fox & Friends and Good Morning America. 3 Videos.

http://rickperryreport.com/article/2011-10-14/rick-perry-skillfully-avoids-matt-lauers-pile-crap-today-show

This seems to be a nice website for Gov. Perry.

bluefox on October 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 1:05 PM

today if you an electrical, mechanical, chemical or computer engineer and living in Houston and don’t have a job you are unemployable anywhere.

Kermit on October 14, 2011 at 1:09 PM

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 1:05 PM

today if you an electrical, mechanical, chemical or computer engineer and living in Houston and don’t have a job you are unemployable anywhere.

Kermit on October 14, 2011 at 1:09 PM

And they are designing manufacturing plants for lots of places around the country.

Kermit on October 14, 2011 at 1:10 PM

With energy costs running at or near an all-time high, what incentive could a producer possibly need, save for getting a high price?

JohnGalt23 on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Graft.

ajacksonian on October 14, 2011 at 1:13 PM

The dream act in Texas, tell me again why allowing illegals to have in state tuition is a good idea when they can not legally be employed when they graduate with a degree? I really would like to support perry, but illegal immigration amnesty is as big of a non starter as romneyobamacare is.

karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Kermit on October 14, 2011 at 1:09 PM

I know, I live in the Houston area (Katy).

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 1:27 PM

karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM

While they’re at it, I’d like someone to explain how invading Mexico is a good idea also.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 1:27 PM

but illegal immigration amnesty is as big of a non starter as romneyobamacare is.

karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM

First of all, it isn’t amnesty, it is the same deal any kid graduating from High school in Texas gets if they were here during the year of graduation and/or been here for three years. Most public schools in Texas are funded by property taxes. You pay those in Texas whether you are legal, or not.

Personally, I had friends whom I would have preferred going to college with, who were smarter and more deserving than some of those I did attend college with. The difference between the two groups, one couldn’t prove citizenship even though they had been in Texas their whole lives as far as they knew. The other group used affirmative action.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 1:30 PM

karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Well it’s been debated to death here already but one thing I would add is that- Obama wouldn’t be able to use it against him.

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 1:33 PM

While they’re at it, I’d like someone to explain how invading Mexico is a good idea also.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 1:27 PM

If you lived in Texas you might think it is.

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 1:34 PM

but illegal immigration amnesty is as big of a non starter as romneyobamacare is.

karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM

First of all, it isn’t amnesty, it is the same deal any kid graduating from High school in Texas gets if they were here during the year of graduation and/or been here for three years. Most public schools in Texas are funded by property taxes. You pay those in Texas whether you are legal, or not.

Personally, I had friends whom I would have preferred going to college with, who were smarter and more deserving than some of those I did attend college with. The difference between the two groups, one couldn’t prove citizenship even though they had been in Texas their whole lives as far as they knew. The other group used aff act.

Filter seems to not like the last two words.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM

While they’re at it, I’d like someone to explain how invading Mexico is a good idea also.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 1:27 PM

You ought to make up your mind. Does he suck up to Mexico, or does he want to invade them. You take both sides depending on your mood.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 1:36 PM

The dream act in Texas, tell me again why allowing illegals to have in state tuition is a good idea when they can not legally be employed when they graduate with a degree?

They can’t be legally employed with or without a degree.

I really would like to support perry, but illegal immigration amnesty is as big of a non starter as romneyobamacare is.
karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Indeed. While I don’t believe Romney has ever issued a statement in favor of Obamacare, Perry did issue one supporting the the Bush-Reid Amnesty plan.

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 1:37 PM

OMG! OMG! It’s leaking that Palin is about to endorse and it will shock everybody.

Since time is running out, she plans to be on the campaign trail 24/7 for this person.

It’s our country people.

Like you, I am not for sale.

oldyeller on October 14, 2011 at 1:40 PM

If you lived in Texas you might think it is.

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 1:34 PM

I do live in Texas, and I don’t see how building a fence and defending it is dumb, but invading Mexico is a smart idea.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 1:41 PM

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 1:34 PM

I do live in Texas, and I don’t see how building a fence and defending it is dumb, but invading Mexico is a smart idea.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Founding member and president of the “I hate Rick Perry” club.

Currently a Romneybot wearing a Cain cloak.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Ah, thanks cozmo. Don’t have time to waste today. :)

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 1:49 PM

This explains why Obamacare is so like Romneycare. Note that the funding of each is different and why.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/12/romney_healthcare_adviser_obamacare_based_off_romneycare.html

This is a video of Jon Gruber, the MIT Economics Adviser of Romney that put the
Romneycare together for MA. In this video he is saying that Obamacare was based on that and he was at the W.H. 5 times and worked extensively on that in 2009. There is Text also of the interview with O’Donnell and himself.

bluefox on October 14, 2011 at 1:52 PM

kg598301, you are welcome. Just as some people are stuck on stupid, the are also stuck on a fence.

There is a fence here

It has always been easier to defeat a fortification that it has been to build one.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 1:53 PM

Perry can make a bigger impact if he reminds people that Obama authorized $2B to go to a company in Brazil to do offshore drilling. He can point out that an investor in Petrobus is a major Democratic contributor (underscoring his crony capitalism), how it will create jobs there (undermining his commitment to creating jobs)and how he has committed us to “be their best customer (underscoring our commitment to foreign sources and selling America short).
Plus, he needs to hammer on the point that this will create union jobs.

djaymick on October 14, 2011 at 2:07 PM

JohnGalt23 on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Think Volume, we sell what we don’t use as an energy exporter.

Dr Evil on October 14, 2011 at 2:07 PM

I wish Perry had spoken up a lot sooner.stacman on October 14, 2011 at 12:58 PM

Remember when Romney replied to Palin stepping on his announcement to run? Romney said her really didn’t want to be over exposed. It’s a tricky thing finding the spot in the pack of hopefuls a “sweet spot” to occupy while the campaign seasons goes through ups and downs there are cycles in campaigns. There were people who thought that was Clinton’s problem last time she was over exposed and peaked too soon. Still Perry doesn’t need to be occupying the single digits in the run up to the primaries and Caucasus. Given the roll out of his economic plan – Team Perry figured that out too.

Right now Cain is getting exposure but it doesn’t hurt him as much it raises his profile, he get’s face and name recognition. Karl Rove said though if Cain, doesn’t have the organization on the ground to match his popularity in the polls surge he won’t hold onto the lead.

Last time around Obama had a huge organizing advantage using ACORN and OFA Plouffe’s outfit.

Dr Evil on October 14, 2011 at 2:16 PM

I like it and the Obama campaign is having a fit over it.

BUT…..Perry has almost the same problem that Palin has. If he keeps his mouth shut he does just fine. But the minute he has to debate his opponents, he sounds like he is shilling for them.

csdeven on October 14, 2011 at 2:16 PM

With energy costs running at or near an all-time high, what incentive could a producer possibly need, save for getting a high price?

JohnGalt23 on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Good question. It’s an R&D incentive, not a production incentive (I’m assuming a tax credit) that would apply to ALL sources of energy. Right now solar and wind are subsidized at a far higher rate than fossil fuel.

juliesa on October 14, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Premature…

Schadenfreude on October 14, 2011 at 2:49 PM

I do live in Texas, and I don’t see how building a fence and defending it is dumb, but invading Mexico is a smart idea.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 1:41 PM

There’s some straw men there – 100% yessir.

Perry never said “don’t build a fence” – Perry favors a fence in some areas … technology in others … and increased manning along the entire border. You can’t build an effective fence alone – how the hell do you build a fence through the middle of a river? Perry favors the exact same kind of border protection that Rick Santorum wrote into his border patrol bill when he was a Senator.

Second Strawman – invading Mexico. Perry said quite explicitly that any intervention into Mexico would be done with that government’s support. And, by the way – we’ve done EXACTLY that same thing before – it’s how we captured Geronimo.

You are a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen.

HondaV65 on October 14, 2011 at 3:10 PM

With energy costs running at or near an all-time high, what incentive could a producer possibly need, save for getting a high price?

JohnGalt23 on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Good question. It’s an R&D incentive, not a production incentive (I’m assuming a tax credit) that would apply to ALL sources of energy. Right now solar and wind are subsidized at a far higher rate than fossil fuel.

juliesa on October 14, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Actually, his plan is to phase out ALL energy subsidies and tax incentives.

Kermit on October 14, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Here is the plan so that the ignorant who have been posting can attempt to understand it.

http://www.rickperry.org/energizing-american-jobs-pdf/

Kermit on October 14, 2011 at 4:06 PM

Plan: Unleash America’s resource’s and allow states to deal with illegals by taking away incentives for coming and staying here..

Result: Perry elected

darwin on October 14, 2011 at 4:28 PM

There is a fence here

It has always been easier to defeat a fortification that it has been to build one.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 1:53 PM

I of course, know there’s a fence because Perry has no problem with strategic fencing. Perry wants to control the border. And he should know that too, it’s been said here dozens of times. These people make my butt tired. lol

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM

And Perry returns to my number 2 slot, Negating his “because I’m a christian” comments.

Jason Coleman on October 14, 2011 at 4:56 PM

For all of the extremely ignorant people of the country (and this thread) making the announcement in Pittsburg is of strategic importance. It was also once the home of a thriving petrochemical industry. New Plants to build in PA are being designed as you read this. They will not be built without such a comprehensive energy policy.

Use those EO’s and 1.2 million NEW JOBS in the first 100 days will be a gross underestimate.

Kermit on October 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM

What is even more amusing is that Obama had his “special advisors” on small business in Pittsburgh this past week, and of the 20+ advisors, only one came from a small business background. Good grief, Trumka was part of the group of advisors.

For some reason, Pittsburgh seems to be on the radar of the politicians. I don’t know how many times Obama has tied up traffic in the area…and the attendees at this events grow smaller and smaller.

onlineanalyst on October 14, 2011 at 5:03 PM

With energy costs running at or near an all-time high, what incentive could a producer possibly need, save for getting a high price?

JohnGalt23 on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

A permit to drill would be nice.

Or if you don’t want to give that incentive to produce, how about taking the restrictions and caps off my wells in the Duck Lake Field of La. the oil is seeping up through the marsh again and will probably ruin the hunting season as well as the winter breeding grounds.

That would be an incentive to me, for sure, and it wouldn’t cost a dime.

Jason Coleman on October 14, 2011 at 5:06 PM

A good voice from HA’s past.

Schadenfreude on October 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM

I just wish I could trust Perry to NOT grant amnesty or a path to citizenship to the 15 – 30 million illegals here which would then trigger double or triple that in chain migration later. Between romneycare and illegal immigration amnesty, who in this field can we trust to run a constitutional reduced federal government? It is a given that we have to have an aggressive national energy independence policy. We also have to drastically reign in the EPA and putting the EPA and energy under the dept of interior would be a step worth considering.

karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Here’s the link I posted for you the other day, but in case you missed it, here it is again:


The federal DREAM Act is an amnesty bill, and I strongly oppose amnesty. The Texas educational residency bill was vastly different.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on October 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM

The federal DREAM Act is an amnesty bill, and I strongly oppose amnesty. The Texas educational residency bill was vastly different.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on October 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Shortly after George W. Bush was elected president, Perry wrote a letter to the editor of the Dallas Morning News, “I take strong issue with a news report in the Dallas Morning News mischaracterizing my position on amnesty for undocumented immigrants from Mexico. The truth is, I am intrigued and open to the Bush administration’s amnesty proposal. Most Texans would agree that it’s better to have legal, taxpaying immigrants from Mexico working in the United States than illegal immigrants living in fear of the law and afraid to access basic services.”

He also sent a letter in 2006 urging congress to pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform.

sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM

I of course, know there’s a fence because Perry has no problem with strategic fencing. Perry wants to control the border. And he should know that too, it’s been said here dozens of times. These people make my butt tired. lol

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM

A partial fence is easier to go around. A full fence is easier to guard. The Israelis – who know a thing or two about security – built a complete fence. Prisons don’t partially fence their perimeters, nor do military bases. A complete fence guards the Korean DMZ.

Perry says he wants more boots on the ground. Great. But we have boots on the ground now, and 20 million illegals. Evidently more than just boots are needed, a complete and proper fence with complete and proper patrolling is synergistic and will stop far more illegals and terrorists than either alone.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 5:28 PM

I just wish I could trust Perry to NOT grant amnesty or a path to citizenship to the 15 – 30 million illegals here which would then trigger double or triple that in chain migration later.
karenhasfreedom on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Here’s the link I posted for you the other day, but in case you missed it, here it is again:
“The federal DREAM Act is an amnesty bill, and I strongly oppose amnesty. The Texas educational residency bill was vastly different.”
Aslans Girl on October 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Even assuming that were Perry – and not a staffer – writing in the email “interview” there’s still a major problem. He openly supported the all-out amnesty plan of the Bush/Kennedy/McCain/Reid gang – so when & how did his sudden Damascus Road 180 on amnesty come about?

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 5:30 PM

He also sent a letter in 2006 urging congress to pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform.
sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM

i.e. amnesty.

Again, on this mother of all flip-flops – did Perry suddenly just see the light since he declared his candidacy? When did his conversion to the conservative position come about?

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 5:33 PM

sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Perry was for amnesty before he was against it – how dare you doubt his word, damn Mittbots who really want 0bama to win!!!11

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Again, on this mother of all flip-flops – did Perry suddenly just see the light since he declared his candidacy? When did his conversion to the conservative position come about?

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 5:33 PM

When he decided he needed to pander to conservatives rather than the Texas Hispanic vote?

sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM

sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Perry was for amnesty before he was against it – how dare you doubt his word, damn Mittbots who really want 0bama to win!!!11

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM

no your the mittbott cos your not a real khristainnecrustacaschrstimas..er, religious guy! !!!11 your hart less,mittbott!1!!

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 5:47 PM

no your the mittbott
whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 5:47 PM

whaddayaknow, you got something right.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 5:49 PM

This didn’t come from Palin, Perry’s been talking about it for a long time. But no question he and Sarah agree on it because they’re both from resource- rich states. Wow, if they could be a team on this we’d be in awesome shape!

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Perry has a good energy record, but hasn’t been touting it effectively enough. I said a couple of days ago that if Perry was smart, he would echo Palin’s energy messaging, which is the best and most succinct out there. She’s been the only one to consistently tie domestic energy exploration to national security, too.

Agree that she’d be a fantastic Secretary of Energy pick in a Perry administration and I’m sure that’s been on both of their minds recently.

Missy on October 14, 2011 at 6:05 PM

If Perry’s second plank is a FlatTAX, that’s a game changer all around. Any leaks on what it is?

Jason Coleman on October 14, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Evidently more than just boots are needed, a complete and proper fence with complete and proper patrolling is synergistic and will stop far more illegals and terrorists than either alone.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 5:28 PM

I’m sorry but that made me laugh. You’ve never been to the Texas border, have you? You DO know how much of it is actually a river, right? Do you know how long it is?

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Texas ain’t Israel, buddy.

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 6:18 PM

I’m sorry but that made me laugh. You’ve never been to the Texas border, have you? You DO know how much of it is actually a river, right? Do you know how long it is?

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 6:17 PM

I say we can get the advanced ‘Building A Fence Along A River’ technology through a crash research project. Maybe DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) could do it?

sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 6:22 PM

You do know that he can’t do that by himself . . . right? Just as the in state tuition came from the legislature by an overwhelming majority. He supported it and signed it.

Voter from WA State on October 14, 2011 at 12:56 PM

No, but he can ignore enforcement of the nation’s immigration laws just as Bush43 and Obama have done.

It’s obvious that Perry is from the same school of “compassionate conservatism” that George Bush is and that is not a good thing.

bw222 on October 14, 2011 at 6:36 PM

Do you know how long it is?

kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 6:17 PM

We built the Hoover dam, Panama canal, interstate highway system, twin towers, we can put men on the moon – but stringing some fence is completely beyond our power.

Right.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM

I say we can get the advanced ‘Building A Fence Along A River’ technology through a crash research project. Maybe DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) could do it?

sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 6:22 PM

That would be nice, but the border along Mexico has always been intentionally porous. People cross it both ways every day for many reasons. As far back as I can remember, the border patrol set up their major checkpoints many miles into Texas to catch the illegal immigrants. Cooperation with Mexico has always been part of Texas, Falcon lake is a prime example. Texas partners with Mexico on things that profit both countries. Illegal immigration did not become a major until the mid 80′s and the first amnesty. Perry, and most Texans already know this. And, that a fence will not work. It has to start with the feds shipping back illegals caught, not giving them personal bonds and a court date some time in the future. Then they can start giving real penalties to companies that hire illegals, from big one’s all the way down to the guy picking up a laborer on the street corner to help with the yard.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Right.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Now you’re catching on…finally.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Texas ain’t Israel, buddy.
kg598301 on October 14, 2011 at 6:18 PM

True. Israel fights it’s non-citizen criminals, it already tried Perry-like appeasement and that hasn’t worked out so well.

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Fox ‘n Friends today…

Schadenfreude on October 14, 2011 at 11:38 AM

Perry at first dodged the question: “What do we do with the illegal aliens already here?”, then said “That’s a conversation we can have AFTER we secure the border”. He could have suggested that the federal government should enact laws as several states are doing — mandatory E-Verify, no drivers licenses, etc. and NO IN-STATE TUITION for illegals. And let them go home by themselves. But he obviously couldn’t say that after defending his TX law on principle. Attrition through enforcement is simply not in his playbook.

This is the same crazy thinking of too many R and D politicians.

Open borders advocates refuse to vote for security measures, disincentives, etc., UNLESS they are coupled with amnesty for 12 to 20 million illegals (see Reid, McCain, Kennedy, Bush, et al). They hold security hostage to gain amnesty.

The SAVE Act, CLEAR Act, and HR 2885 never get anywhere because these clowns DEMAND that amnesty and/or other rewards and benefits for illegal aliens precede or be tied to any strict enforcement legislation.

fred5678 on October 14, 2011 at 6:43 PM

True. Israel fights it’s non-citizen criminals, it already tried Perry-like appeasement and that hasn’t worked out so well.

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Oh, that’s good. Equate them with terrorists. Illegal immigrants=terrorists.

That fence sure would have stopped the 9-11 hijackers.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 6:44 PM

And, that a fence will not work.

BS. It works every time it is tried in other countries, but when guys like Perry and friends can make some easy money off illegals it somehow magically becomes so very difficult.

It has to start with the feds shipping back illegals caught, not giving them personal bonds and a court date some time in the future. Then they can start giving real penalties to companies that hire illegals, from big one’s all the way down to the guy picking up a laborer on the street corner to help with the yard.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 6:39 PM

So we need to stop guys like Perry from giving out goodies to illegals and actually start enforcing the laws in sanctuary cities?

Sounds like a plan!

sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM

sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM

Perry and many Texans view amnesty and border scurity much differently than the rest of us do. Cheap illegal alien labor has been part of the state’s economic success.

What most Texans have ignored is that Texas will have a Hispanic majority by 2020. Shortly after that the state will turn blue and become buried in debt much like California.

In 1980 there were nearly three Anglos for every Hispanic in Texas. In 2020 Hispanics will outnumber Anglos primarily because Texas has a welcoming environment for illegals.

http://dallasfed.org/research/pubs/fotexas/fotexas_petersen.html

bw222 on October 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM

BS. It works every time it is tried in other countries, but when guys like Perry and friends can make some easy money off illegals it somehow magically becomes so very difficult.

sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Yeah, you stick with that.

There is a fence here

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Perry releases phase 1 of his plan to get America working again.

We will energize American jobs and national security through executive orders and executive actions that expand energy exploration all across America. Key components of the plan include:

•Expand energy exploration offshore and on federal and private lands across the country by executive order, creating over 1.2 million jobs
•Eliminate current and proposed activist EPA regulations from the Obama administration, saving 2.4 million jobs by 2020 and lowering projected costs by $127 billion
•Reduce, rebuild, and refocus the EPA federal regulators, returning authority to the states
•Level the playing field for all energy producers, removing Obama’s practice of picking winners and losers and ending the Obama war on coal and natural gas production
Governor Rick Perry’s plan is based on a simple premise: Make what Americans buy. Buy what Americans make. And sell it to the world.

Anything to say, Romneybots? Crickets….

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 6:50 PM

bw222 on October 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM

This is a critical point.

Unless we expel all illegals, and correctly interpret the 14th amendment and abolish the “anchor baby” error – Texas and much of the rest of the South will turn blue, and America will be dragged down into the pit of failed progressive states.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Notice how the Mittbots on this thread want to talk about anything – illegals, Anita Perry, debate performances – apart from Rick Perry’s awesome plan to get America working again…

Unfortunately for them, phase 2 of the campaign season is beginning and I don’t think Romney will do well in this phase.

Also, Mr. Cain’s 9-9-9 plan is NOT a jobs plan.

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 6:54 PM

Perry and many Texans view amnesty and border scurity much differently than the rest of us do. Cheap illegal alien labor has been part of the state’s economic success.

bw222 on October 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Well that isn’t going to sell in the rest of the country.

sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM

Anything to say, Romneybots? Crickets….

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Your insulting tone won’t win you any friends here. Considering that 88% of Hot Air readers aren’t on board with Perry, you’re doing a lot of harm to your candidate.

As far as his new energy plan, it’s plain common sense that any GOP administration/congress will pass with or without Perry. My question would be: will he mandate a 10% renewable policy like he did in Texas, to support the crony capitalist owners of failed wind farms, or no?

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Anything to say, Romneybots? Crickets….

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Didn’t we read this already when Palin put it out?

sharrukin on October 14, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Anything to say, Romneybots? Crickets….

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Now dangit! Can’t you see its the Perryhaters concerned uncommitted voters Romneybots camouflaged in the cloaks of other candidates turn. They are on a roll and think their plan is working.

cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Considering that 88% of Hot Air readers aren’t on board with Perry, you’re doing a lot of harm to your candidate.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 6:58 PM

So you support a candidate based on their standing in the Hot Air poll? I don’t know whether to pity you or laugh at you… I think I’ll just LOL…

And talking of insulting tone, I try to follow your lead… :)

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Notice how the Mittbots on this thread want to talk about anything – illegals, Anita Perry, debate performances – apart from Rick Perry’s awesome plan to get America working again…

Unfortunately for them, phase 2 of the campaign season is beginning and I don’t think Romney will do well in this phase.

Also, Mr. Cain’s 9-9-9 plan is NOT a jobs plan.

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 6:54 PM

An awesome energy/jobs plan, from Perry, Palin (oops) or anyone else is not much help if the country is overrun with illegals.

I judge candidates on their PRINCIPLES as evidenced by actions and statements. Perry is obviously on the wrong side of the fence (pun intended) as far as benefits/magnets that attract even more illegal aliens. His outlandish statement that I and others are heartless seals the deal.

And Mitt has stated he is in favor of amnesty. I shook his hand at a conference in 2006 and told him, “No amnesty.” He hasn’t listened.

Cain, although strong against amnesty/rewards, needs to do some homework — maybe hire Newt for some tutorials?

Bottom line — we have GOT to stop the bleeding of illegals into our country and encourage the current ones to go home by attrition through enforcement, or we will have no country to argue about.

fred5678 on October 14, 2011 at 7:12 PM

So you support a candidate based on their standing in the Hot Air poll? I don’t know whether to pity you or laugh at you… I think I’ll just LOL…

And talking of insulting tone, I try to follow your lead… :)

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Insulting tone?

It’s the Perry supporters who are throwing personal insults at folks who question his qualifications, since they apparently cannot counter legitimate questions with legitimate answers.

And no, I support candidates based on their conservative credentials. That Perry comes up short has been noted not just by me, but his flameout in the polls clearly indicates a big problem with the rest of the republican base. He’s polling at a third or less from his high water mark, even you must admit there’s something to the criticisms leveled against him.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 7:16 PM

True. Israel fights it’s non-citizen criminals, it already tried Perry-like appeasement and that hasn’t worked out so well.
whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Oh, that’s good. Equate them with terrorists. Illegal immigrants=terrorists.
cozmo on October 14, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Actually I was just agreeing with the comment that there’s a big difference between Texas and Israel. And I’m not sure ya really wanna drag terrorism into it – with “Open Gates Rick” not everyone he’s leaving the gates wide open for is interested in taking just jobs away from Americans.

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Cain, although strong against amnesty/rewards, needs to do some homework — maybe hire Newt for some tutorials?

fred5678 on October 14, 2011 at 7:12 PM

LOL… seriously?

I must have missed when Cain was the governor of a border state and he refused to sign a bill similar to the Texas Dream Act. Care to remind me or you are projecting just like Obamabots did in 2008?

Cain and Obama – We can be anything you want, baby!

Cain utters platitudes and promises rainbows and unicorns. Romney will say anything to get elected – anything!

Perry could act like Romney and promise to build you a fence along every inch of the border (he is not against a fence in some strategic places) and man it with lions and alligators – only to flip-flop once he becomes President. But hey, that wouldn’t matter, right?

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Notice how the Mittbots on this thread want to talk about anything – illegals, Anita Perry, debate performances – apart from Rick Perry’s awesome plan to get America working again…

Unfortunately for them, phase 2 of the campaign season is beginning and I don’t think Romney will do well in this phase.

Also, Mr. Cain’s 9-9-9 plan is NOT a jobs plan.

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 6:54 PM

An awesome energy/jobs plan, from Perry, Palin (oops) or anyone else is not much help if the country is overrun with illegals.
fred5678 on October 14, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Now, com’n fred, aren’t you awed and impressed by the fact that a Texas Republican is for drilling oil? That’s real man-bites-dog shocking news – especially since nobody has ever thought of it before!

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 7:25 PM

He’s polling at a third or less from his high water mark, even you must admit there’s something to the criticisms leveled against him.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Nope, he’s polling at those levels because he is not talking as glibly as the snake oil salesmen, Romney and Cain, in the debates.

It’s a temporary shift that will change as we move to the next phase of the primary season – retail politicking and TV ads.

Why do you think Romney wants the key primaries moved up? Duh! He also knows the next phase favors Perry. When the candidates actually start to sell their records.

Let’s see:

Mitt Romney – Failed Governor. Claims business expertise but many find fault with the methods he used.

Rick Perry – Successful conservative Governor of the second largest state creating jobs in the midst of the Obamadepression.

Herman Cain – Pizza ‘godfather’ now peddling 9-9-9 and his books. Zero political experience.

Newt Gingrich – Famed Speaker of the House during the Clinton years but comes with a lot of baggage.

Bachmann/Santorum/Huntsman/Paul – Also-rans.

I will certainly want to move the primaries up too if I were Mitt Romney.

:)

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 7:32 PM

fred5678 on October 14, 2011 at 7:12 PM

LOL… seriously?

I must have missed when Cain was the governor of a border state and he refused to sign a bill similar to the Texas Dream Act. Care to remind me or you are projecting just like Obamabots did in 2008?

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Oh, please. Drop the strawman and try to conduct a rational discussion.

Going by repeated statements on his web site and NumbersUSA ratings on specific issues, Cain, along with Bachmann, and Romney, is one of the least worst.
(I challenge their judgement on Mitt, given his past statements, though. NumbersUSA weights recent statements more heavily.)

As far as rewards, benefits, for illegal behavior — if you think offering inducements and rewards for more illegal aliens to invade is good policy, please promise to keep them in your own state.

fred5678 on October 14, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Now, com’n fred, aren’t you awed and impressed by the fact that a Texas Republican is for drilling oil? That’s real man-bites-dog shocking news – especially since nobody has ever thought of it before!

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Shocked, indeed!

fred5678 on October 14, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Now, com’n fred, aren’t you awed and impressed by the fact that a Texas Republican is for drilling oil? That’s real man-bites-dog shocking news – especially since nobody has ever thought of it before!

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Shocked, indeed!

fred5678 on October 14, 2011 at 7:42 PM

I hear he’s even coined an entirely new catch-phrase for his novel plan. This is astounding – it’s “Drill, Baby, Drill!” – what a mind!! Nobody else could have come up with an idea like that!!!

whatcat on October 14, 2011 at 7:49 PM

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 7:32 PM

I am glad that you are as impressed as you are that Perry found one of Sarah Palin’s old speeches and is trying to make something out of it.

Perry’s campaign is as dead as T-Paw’s. The man has a history of being pro-amnesty/pro-illegal alien, can’t express his thoughts coherently, insults the very people he needs to support him and we haven’t even scratched the issue of corruption and crony capitalism yet.

Perry has received everything from special interest groups and mega donors from an all-expense paid Rose Bowl holiday for his family via chartered jet to European vacations, hunting trips and chartered jet getaways to Colorado on hot Texas weekends. Perhaps the fact that some of Perry’s largest mega donors are homebuilders and poultry processors helps explain his support for illegals and opposito to e-evrify. Perry also set up the Texas Residential Constructnion Commission, whose primary goal was to serve as a roadblock preventing homeowners from taking builders to court over shoddy workmanship.

Not exactly the type of man I want for President.

bw222 on October 14, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Nope, he’s polling at those levels because he is not talking as glibly as the snake oil salesmen, Romney and Cain, in the debates.

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Nonsense.

Conservatives wanted Perry in the race, it was his to lose. And he opened his mouth and did exactly that.

We found out about his softness on illegals, his crony capitalism, listened in horror at how terrible a debater he was, heard his insults to conservatives – the same insults the left hurls at us, listened to his gaffes on social security and invading Mexico.

Who can blame conservatives from fleeing from Perry, and moving to Cain? Cain’s rise in the polls is nearly exclusively Perry supporters moving to him. Those conservative may move from Cain to Newt, but they won’t go back to Perry.

Once you lose conservatives it becomes exceedingly difficult to get them back – espeically when you double down on everything that drove them away in the first place.

Rebar on October 14, 2011 at 8:09 PM

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