MSNBC analyst: The OWS movement really needs a “Kent State moment”

posted at 12:05 pm on October 14, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Well, why not? After all, we’ve already had the spitting-on-the-military moment, the defecate-on-the-car moment, the call-for-violent-revolution moment, and a whole bunch of anti-Semitic moments, too.  Donny Deutsch tells Morning Joe this morning that the Occupy Movement needs to “grow up” by getting someone shot by The Man, or something, just like at Kent State (via JWF):

Charming.  Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski react not by telling Deutsch that wishing for that kind of moment is rather grotesque and ghoulish, but by warning police around the country that they should be careful about provocateurs trying to make Deutsch’s wish come true (see update).  I’m sure they appreciate the heads-up on that, Joe.  Deutsch later says that he’s repulsed by the Tea Party, but at least the movement is “grown up.”  Apparently Deutsch isn’t repulsed by anti-Semitism and calls for violent revolution by featured speakers at the rallies, but somehow finds all that law-abiding protesting by conservatives distasteful.

Speaking of provocateurs, though, Andrew Breitbart and his team have a cache of social-media communications from Occupy Movement  and Day of Rage organizers, and wants the blogosphere to crowd-source the data to unveil any repulsive motives high-spirited hijinks involved:

Then, at the end of August, we were alerted by a fellow researcher that information about USDoR (U.S. Day of Rage, to which Occupy Wall Street is connected) had been posted on Shamuk and Al-Jahad, two Al-Qaeda recruitment sites. We began to take the “Occupy” protest more seriously, and dedicated more time to research and monitoring.

Days later, Anonymous announced that it would be releasing its new DDOS (Distributed Denial of Service) tool. Because of the Al-Qaeda posting, we contacted the New York Field Office of the FBI so they could investigate the potential threat. From that point on, we decided we needed to include the Human Element of Intelligence (HUMINT), and to infiltrate the protestors to map their ties to Anonymous, and to the postings on Shamuk and Al-Jahad.

A few of us had attended several of the pre-protest meet-ups and training classes. The Civil Disobedience training was taught by Elliot “Smokey” Madison, a New York-based anarchist who is a member of the People’s Law Collective, a voluntary group that advises protesters on legal issues arising from their actions. The Media training was taught by Vlad Teichberg, a New York based anarchist who is a member of the Glass Bead Collective, an artistic activist group.

After attending these meetings and socializing with those present, several of our team members were added to all the mailing lists of the “Occupy” group. That is how we created the email archive that we are sharing with you (see below). In addition to the involvement of socialists, anarchists, and other radicals, the emails also reveal heavy union involvement from the beginning of the “Occupy” movement, as well as discussion about the role of the Democratic Party, and how the movement should respond to President Barack Obama.

The emails also reveal that the Occupation attempted to provoke the New York Police Department prior to some of the clashes that occurred with activists.

Be sure to check out how you can help vet the communications over at Big Government.

Update: To be fair, one commenter points out that Mika slaps at Deutsch, although it’s not clear that this comment provoked it.  Later, Scarborough says that Deutsch “jumped the shark” with this comment.  You know, MSNBC bounced Mark Halperin for calling Barack Obama a “dick” on Morning Joe.  Will Deutsch get a similar response?


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Mike Brzezinski

:)

NotCoach on October 14, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Really? How would such an event focus the country on ‘evil’ corps and not out of control government?

Limerick on October 14, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Hippie punching is the left’s last great hope? They Hope the cops will do them a favor and Change the optics of this whole dreary mess.

Mord on October 14, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Donny Douche. Who is this leftist loser?

ObamatheMessiah on October 14, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Hardly surprising coming from Donny Douche.

Red Cloud on October 14, 2011 at 12:14 PM

To bad this information will be buried by the media..

sandee on October 14, 2011 at 12:14 PM

the images of these filthy hippies is repulsive. tie them to obamas hip like the anti-war protesters were tied to mcgovern’s and obams will lose 48 states next november.

DrW on October 14, 2011 at 12:14 PM

So, basically, we have a bunch of unwashed hippies with nothing else to do, living in less-than-hygienic conditions in support of a cause that they can’t really explain.

And MSNBC Analyst Donny Deutsch is hoping someone from law enforcement will to shoot 4 of them?

???

Lawrence on October 14, 2011 at 12:15 PM

How did Communists take over so much of the media, so completely?? It jusy seems like this guy would have been immediately terminated for saying such a crazy thing? Doesn’t it??? I can’t be the only one who think so, can I???

KMC1 on October 14, 2011 at 12:15 PM

In Scarborough’s defense (I’m court appointed, what can I do?), he did say that the idiot Deutsch “jumped the shark with that one”.

And Mika slapped the idiot and threw a book at the idiot.

Granted, it needed more than just that but, hey, we’re grading on a curve here. This is MSNBC after all.

Did I say he was an idiot?

SteveMG on October 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM

This man is disgusting. Isn’t it a crime to incite violence?

capejasmine on October 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM

How about a commie getting his leg run over by a motorcycle?

Violent enough for you Deutsch, or do you still want someone to be killed?

forest on October 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Deutsch should head on over to the “Occupation!” and volunteer to be shot, you know, in solidarity with them.

These pinhead fools are no better than the Imams who persuade dumbasses to blow themselves up on an Israeli bus, encouraging death but never offering themselves up for the cause. I hate them all.

Bishop on October 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Donnie needs to go down to Zuccotti Park with a bullhorn and announce “I need three or four of you guys to provoke the cops into killing you, but preferring not until Monday so we won’t have to pre-empt our higher-rated weekend prison shows”.

MSNBC’s probably also got Al Sharpton in practice sessions on how to properly lean over a body and cry realistically.

jon1979 on October 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Those down sparkles just won’t get it. What’s the hand sign for douchebag?

Laura in Maryland on October 14, 2011 at 12:17 PM

KMC1 on October 14, 2011 at 12:15 PM

The Russians once apon a time when they were the USSR said, they would destroy us. Then went right to work on that, and here we are.

capejasmine on October 14, 2011 at 12:18 PM

The OWS crowd are big fans of the Palestinians, and what they’ve learned from the Palestinians is that you need some dead bodies for the TV cameras. Then, the OWS crowd will feel free to retaliate with violence and not risk criticism from their friends in the press.

RBMN on October 14, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Of course it’s what they’re hoping for. These are morally confused and civically ignorant people dangerous for their degree of righteousness. They are intersted in ends, not means; completely hostile to the notion of shared civic values of respect and comity. Deep down, they have no wish to share the world with us, with “others.” Understand this about the Left — they hate that they must share the world with us. Very important.

rrpjr on October 14, 2011 at 12:19 PM

And MSNBC Analyst Donny Deutsch is hoping someone from law enforcement will to shoot 4 of them?

???

Lawrence on October 14, 2011 at 12:15 PM

So,..what’s the problem?

a capella on October 14, 2011 at 12:19 PM

OWS is just a dry run for this:
truebluenz.com/2011/10/12/the-killing-fields-of-america/

bloviator on October 14, 2011 at 12:20 PM

This guy should be fired for promoting violence and death. Of course I said should because he’s a committed leftist and nothing ever happens to them. I would settle for a severe beating with a stick.

darwin on October 14, 2011 at 12:20 PM

..yeah, that’ll work out for them. The National Guard gunning down some poor innocent anti-war demonstrator. Sure helped improve Nixon’s (i.e., the gummint’s) image.

Unclear on the concept of the 60s anti-war movement and who it’s sworn enemies were.

“Hey, hey, LBJ, how many babies you kill today?”

The War Planner on October 14, 2011 at 12:20 PM

RBMN on October 14, 2011 at 12:18 PM

I’m sure all that coughing and sneezing on each other in the urine fog they sleep in might just get them a body or two for TV.

Limerick on October 14, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Andrew Breitbart doing the work that American ‘journalists’ won’t do – once again…

Midas on October 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM

All 37 of his viewers support his views…
This guy was assailing the Tea Party for their “violent protests”, and how unruly they were.
He is an idiot, the irony is, he goes on a quasi national network to show the world what an idiot he is…btw, they are targeting him, since he made his money in Manhattan all $200 million of it.

right2bright on October 14, 2011 at 12:23 PM

“We will resist! We will never leave! We will die before giving up our rights! We are freedom fighters!”

-Yeah yeah that’s great, would you mind goading the cops into blowing your head off so we can advance our agenda?

“Geez look at the time, I have..uh..I have an appointment..yah that’s it, an appointment. You should ask someone else.”

Bishop on October 14, 2011 at 12:25 PM

MSNBC analyst: The OWS movement really needs a “Kent State moment”

No, but some civil-rights era firehoses and a humanitarian air-drop of body wash would be welcome.

Laura in Maryland on October 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Inciting violence and mayhem is worthy of being arrested. Normal people aren’t going to stand for this crap too much longer. What a complicit media the marxists have. It is so despicable that these communists are putting up a bunch of useful idiots to be sacrificed for their marxist cause. We should be thinking not about the protesters and what to do about THEM. We should be thinking about a decapitation strategy for their handlers.

HomeoftheBrave on October 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Oh, and you’re cordially invited to step to the front of the volunteer line, Mr. Donnie Pantywaist Douche.

Kindly put up or STFU. k. thx.

Midas on October 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Obama.

Key West Reader on October 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM

So,..what’s the problem?

a capella on October 14, 2011 at 12:19 PM

If your going to ask the question, the answer is because it is not ALL of them!

PrettyD_Vicious on October 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM

So….is this Donny’s “crosshairs” moment?

When something does happen at one of these “rallies”, we now have someone to blame.

tencole on October 14, 2011 at 12:29 PM

From what I recall Scarborough seemed to be a fairly decent FL. congressman. I started to doubt him at his crying news conference when he announced he wasn’t going to run for reelection. His time at MSNBC has confirmed his full time douche status.

arnold ziffel on October 14, 2011 at 12:30 PM

OWS is just a dry run for this:
truebluenz.com/2011/10/12/the-killing-fields-of-america/

bloviator on October 14, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Excellent, thanks.

rrpjr on October 14, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Inciting violence and mayhem is worthy of being arrested.

HomeoftheBrave on October 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM

I guess the question is whether this is true or not. If not, then… *shrug*

If it is true, then one has to start asking aloud where the city/district attorneys are, where the police are, where the charges and arrests are, etc. Are the local police unions et al holding back out of solidarity with the union backers of the protest movement, perhaps?

Midas on October 14, 2011 at 12:31 PM

So….is this Donny’s “crosshairs” moment?

When something does happen at one of these “rallies”, we now have someone to blame.

tencole on October 14, 2011 at 12:29 PM

It is nothing more than Manhattan’s Bowel Movement.

Key West Reader on October 14, 2011 at 12:31 PM

How about a commie getting his leg run over by a motorcycle?

Violent enough for you Deutsch, or do you still want someone to be killed?

forest on October 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM

That looks so staged. What would you bet the guy just fell down and stuck his leg under the cycle for a quick photo op?

Notice all the conveniently positioned Photographers standing right there, with the police all looking nonchalantly in another direction.

Lawrence on October 14, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Deutsch later says that he’s repulsed by the Tea Party

Why didn’t dumb and dumber ask him why the Tea Party repulses him? Why did they just let that comment slide?

…Oh, nevermind.

Fallon on October 14, 2011 at 12:32 PM

So….is this Donny’s “crosshairs” moment?

When something does happen at one of these “rallies”, we now have someone to blame.

tencole on October 14, 2011 at 12:29 PM

Yep – the Tea Party and Sarah Palin, that’s who!

/msm mode off

Midas on October 14, 2011 at 12:32 PM

The OWS movement really needs a “Kent State moment….

…..but that would hurt Obama, so I don’t know what to do. This twinkles thing has promise.”

BobMbx on October 14, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Eh.

They’re going to try. Let them.

Let’s watch. We must admit that it is entertanining.

Key West Reader on October 14, 2011 at 12:33 PM

SOWS not OWS…

Stinkies On Wall Street

Limerick on October 14, 2011 at 12:33 PM

Notice all the conveniently positioned Photographers standing right there, with the police all looking nonchalantly in another direction.

Lawrence on October 14, 2011 at 12:31 PM

There are more photographers than protestors.

pedestrian on October 14, 2011 at 12:35 PM

LOL, Obama’s going to keep up delivering … LMFAO/

Putting gun runners behind bars? His own staff?

LMFAO.

Key West Reader on October 14, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Lawrence on October 14, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Yeah. It appears the photographers had it all lined up. The look on the guy’s face is still priceless though.

forest on October 14, 2011 at 12:37 PM

I hope some poor dope doesn’t get his fingers broken by a cop.

Imagine trying to twinkle your friends that you need medical assistance when your fingers are broken.

“What’s he sayin’?”

“Not sure, I think he’s saying either that he wants a hot dog or would someone please scratch his butt crack.”

Bishop on October 14, 2011 at 12:38 PM

NYPD should “shoot” them the Down Twinkles. On second thought, it’s probably harder to flex cuff the chumps when you’re giggling you butt off.

Christien on October 14, 2011 at 12:39 PM

These stupid MSNBC cretins should be jailed or institutionalized.

rplat on October 14, 2011 at 12:39 PM

This is what they wanted all along. Eloi massacred and a new call for socialism to replace the violence inherent in the system.

Hening on October 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Bishop on October 14, 2011 at 12:38 PM

lol…you’re on a roll, man. Keep the chuckles coming.

RepubChica on October 14, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Get out while you still can, before it’s too late to Escape from New York

ornery_independent on October 14, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Isn’t it amusing that liberals actually have to take classes and have someone show the “how yo protest”? Especially how to protest peaceably and what to do when they get arrested.

William Teach on October 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Mika Brzezinski

Sounds like a hockey playing formula one driver..

Caper29 on October 14, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Key West Reader on October 14, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Heh. Very nice. Makes a nice finished set with the Breitbart video of him spilling the beans in March about being aware of F & F.

a capella on October 14, 2011 at 12:55 PM

We need

WE NEED

Some people

SOME PEOPLE

To Volunteer

TO VOLUNTEER

To take some bullets

TO TAKE SOME BULLETS

And by take some bullets

AND BY TAKE SOME BULLETS

I don’t mean steal

I DON”T MEAN STEAL

I mean get shot

I MEAN GET SHOT…..WTF!?!?!?

*STACK INTERRUPT*

*down twinkles*

Lily on October 14, 2011 at 12:56 PM

He meant it as analogy, not like racist Hank Williams.

John Deaux on October 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Let’s get serious for a moment.

OWS is exactly why it is so important for there to be a Conservative protest movement. It doesn’t necessarily have to be the Tea Party. You could have Conservatives protesting all the vulgarity on primetime TV. They could protest Liberal bias in the media. They could protest Left wing indoctrination in the public schools.

The point is that for many years, I heard Rush Limbaugh pooh poohing the idea of Conservatives holding protest rallies. He said “we Conservatives don’t do protest marches, it’s not who we are”. If Rush is right 99% of the time, then this was the 1% of the time that he was dead wrong.

Conservatives need to protest for three reasons.

1. To draw a distinction between how they behave when they protest, versus how Liberals behave when they protest.

2. To allow people to contrast how the media covers Conservative protests versus Liberal protests.

3. To remove the impresssion that Liberals are the only people who are passionate enough about their beliefs to take time out of their schedules to make their voices heard on issues that matter to them, as opposed to being perceived as too self centered to care about anything other than what’s going on in their daily personal lives.

The Tea Party movement is important in it’s own right because of the issues that it addresses. But it’s equally important for Conservatives to not let protest rallies be the exclusive property of Liberals, as this allows Liberals to get away with bad behavior at their protest rallies, without giving people something to compare it to.

ardenenoch on October 14, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Gallup poll after Kent State showed 58% of people were on the side of the National Guard. Donny might reconsider his wish.

angryed on October 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Naysayers. I think Douche is on to something, here, and I — for one — urge him to make it happen, be a catalyst. Get your sleazy a$$ out to the OWS site and provoke the police and hopefully you can go down in history, or something.

Do it, Douche.

Jaibones on October 14, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Sounds like a hockey playing formula one driver..

Caper29 on October 14, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Doesn’t look like one.

Jaibones on October 14, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Right – OWS needs a “Kent State Moment” because the original “Kent State Moment” was so effective when it happened in 1970. In fact – that “moment” caused voters to go to the polls two years later and defeat Richard Nixon.

Oh wait – no they didn’t. I just remembered … actually Nixon defeated McGovern in a devastating landslide, losing only Massachusetts and the District of Colombia.

Yeah – a “Kent State Moment” sounds good to me folks – it really helped to get the silent majority off their asses and to the polls to give a Nixon a victory with over 60% of the popular vote.

I say – go for it.

HondaV65 on October 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Yeah. It appears the photographers had it all lined up. The look on the guy’s face is still priceless though.

forest on October 14, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Not only that, it isn’t even a motorcycle, it’s a scooter. Probably weighs all of 200 lbs. It’s like having someone step on your foot.

The protester is nothing but a big pu$$y.

UltimateBob on October 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Lily on October 14, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Thanks, Lily .. I dinna have time to type out what you & I were both thinking !
LOLOL.

pambi on October 14, 2011 at 1:47 PM

They’ll start dropping, but it won’t be from “the bullets of THE MAN” the place is a festering pit of disease and these trust fund babies, growing up with maids cleaning every inch of the house, won’t be acclimated to them like the normal NYC homeless population. Another few weeks and that park will be amass in the plague.

Rbastid on October 14, 2011 at 2:16 PM

I’ll bet he gets his own show, after that comment…he could come on right before race-baiter Sharpton

tmedlin on October 14, 2011 at 2:17 PM

I agree with the MSNBC guy. Let’s kill them. It would lower the unemployment rate and end the scourge of HIPPIES.

Signed,

Jonathan Swift

fleiter on October 14, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Actually, I think the Kent State shooting put an end to the demonstrations. I think that was pretty much the end of the popularity of protesting.

Queen0fCups on October 14, 2011 at 2:25 PM

SteveMG on October 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Look at the end again, Mika says when she hits Deutsch:

“For a guy who eats fruit loops, your pretty smart.”

I take this as she is in absolute agreement with his statements. Not surprised.

truetexan on October 14, 2011 at 2:49 PM

No one has ever accused Donny Deutsch of saying something intelligent. Wonder why that is?

pilamaye on October 14, 2011 at 3:03 PM

I was so surprised that old joe had nothing to say.

Bambi on October 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Maybe our multi-millionaire boy will do the world a favor and volunteer to go first?

MNHawk on October 14, 2011 at 4:06 PM

Occupy Movement needs to “grow up” by getting someone shot by The Man, or something, just like at Kent State

For the Left, people are disposable, the cause is all that matters.

ThePrez on October 14, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Of course, if that “Kent State moment” were to involve weapons from “Fast and Furious,” this whole thing could go “side ways.”

J_Crater on October 14, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Three things: First, what grown man calls himself Donnie and expects to be taken seriously?

Second, Donnie you’re an idiot. Keht State was in 1970 not the 60s.

Third, the shootings at Kent State were without a doubt at least in part caused by the SDS and Weathermen. So give Bill Ayers a call Donnie, I’m sure he’ll know what to do.

Deanna on October 14, 2011 at 6:06 PM

Mika doesn’t slap at Deutsch for what he said. She slapped the cereal box next to him off the table.

Her exact quote:

“For a guy who eats Fruit Loops for breakfast (SLAP!) you’re pretty smart!”

I disagree with the lovely leftie. The fact Donny Deutsch eats Fruit Loops for breakfast proves the old adage “You are what you eat.”

I’m sure that after the show was over, Deutsch went to Coney Island for some Nathan’s wieners.

L.N. Smithee on October 14, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Didn’t the whole hippie protest thing pretty much end after Kent State?

Buddahpundit on October 14, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Donny Deutsch… so now I know what the turd looks like.
-

RalphyBoy on October 14, 2011 at 11:33 PM

Here’s what they really need.

Wingo on October 14, 2011 at 11:34 PM

What we really need is to do away with assholes like him.
Thats a left handed way of telling the ows turds to start acting violent then being able to say I didnt mean violence I meant something else!. I dont know who this guy is but I would guess that he only read about KENT state. Some of us were alive at that time. Granted I was a kid but it was TERRIBLE. The shock that hit the nation was terrible.But he will get away with making a comment like that because he is a lefty, I did note that he said he hated the tea party, Funny how that works.

ColdWarrior57 on October 15, 2011 at 1:46 AM

So let’s get this straight. Donny Deutsch wants the national guard to start firing on the Oh-What-S***theads demonstrators? Umm, why?
It’s gonna get cold soon. The dysfunctional morons will move on once the fun stops and the pandering democratic blow-hards stop visiting.

This is Obama’s base: the 0.01%

virgo on October 16, 2011 at 2:05 AM