Report: Marco Rubio’s top aide pushed to move Florida primary up to benefit Romney; Update: Rubio camp denies

posted at 10:11 pm on October 13, 2011 by Allahpundit

R.S. McCain reports, you decide. Here’s a good test of Rubio’s grassroots cred: Can you employ a man who’s trying to tilt the electoral pinball machine towards Romney’s nomination and still retain pride of place as a “tea-party icon”?

GOP sources in Washington and Florida say that Rubio’s senatorial chief of staff, Cesar Conda, has been a major force in persuading Florida Republicans to move their primary to January.

“Cesar used to be with Romney’s campaign,” one informed source explained to me in an interview today, adding: “Conda used his contacts to push the primary to the 31st because they want Romney in.”…

Some have speculated that, by delivering Florida for Romney, Conda would not only help Romney lock up the 2012 presidential nomination, but also secure the 2012 vice-presidential pick for Rubio…

Reports that Rubio — or at least Rubio’s top aides – are working behind the scenes for Romney, who is seen as representing the RINO (“Republican In Name Only”) moderate wing of the party, will be a bitter disappointment for conservatives who supported Rubio’s insurgent campaign last year. Many Tea Party activists who backed Rubio against Crist in the 2010 primary are now supporting Cain, the conservative Atlanta businessman who has surged to the front of the the Republican presidential pack in the past three weeks.

Read Politico’s backgrounder from 10 days ago about the many, many staff links between the Romney and Rubio campaigns for context. If Conda’s pushing hard to give Romney a leg up, the obvious conclusion is that he’s doing so either with Rubio’s blessing or with no objection. So bright a prospect is Rubio himself — the Stephen Strasburg of the GOP, if you will — that he’s literally the only icon in the conservative firmament I can think of who might be able to get away with shilling for Romney. Christie can get away with it because most grassroots righties already suspect he’s a RINO, but Rubio is an almost mortal lock to be the nominee down the road, so he’s sacrosanct. Or is he?

Before you answer that question, two videos for you to watch. The first, a flashback, comes from Reason, the second comes from RCP. Click the second image to watch.

Update: A source close to Rubio e-mailed us to note that Florida’s primary date is chosen by committee. He emphatically denies that either Cesar Conda or Rubio himself influenced the process.

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This is politics, folks. Romney is going to do what politicians do when it comes to getting elected. This thing with Rubio, if true, just reinforces that electing leaders is the process of selecting the lesser of two evils. Strong and honest leadership is a pipedream that, in reality, may be unattainable. What we do know is that the mistake of 2008 cannot be repeated if we want our way of life to continue as we know it.

volsense on October 14, 2011 at 9:24 AM

The Florida Circle Jerk and last minute backroom deals between McCain, Crist, Martinez and all the other RINOs in Florida right before the primary was probably the biggest Republican misstep that set Obama up for winning the WH. If we get another Florida Republican that sells out who elected him in the first place, again, then Florida might actually attempt a third party movment. Romney will sell out as soon as it’s possible. We get nowhere with a Romney administration. It would be Obama Lite.

JeffinOrlando on October 14, 2011 at 9:25 AM

I am fine with you thinking like you want, why can’t you let me think how I want or let others do the same? I think there are also plenty who have grown tired of “the long game” as you say, we have been told that for how many years now?

bluemarlin on October 13, 2011 at 11:06 PM

I certainly have, especially since the “long game” of the GOP is only more corporate statism. Mitt Romney is not going to undo a blasted thing that Barack Obama has done. Maybe he will re-instate the Mexico City policy, but even that I doubt.

Threshing Flora on October 14, 2011 at 9:36 AM

A pox on all their houses.

OldNuc on October 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Now that its been denied, is it possible that someone is playing hardball with Rubio in order to get an endorsement? Then, when they have not received it, sent this info out into the world to rattle Rubio support and show him “who’s boss”?

*tin foil hat off*

Alinsky on October 14, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Marco Rubio says and does what is good for Marco Rubio. He’ll come back down to earth when people realize he is somewhat “slick”. He’s got some shady dealings in his history with his finances, too. I live in FL, he’s not a “reformer” type at all.

RW Wacko on October 14, 2011 at 9:58 AM

*down twinkles*

bitsy on October 14, 2011 at 9:58 AM

Maybe some Republicans are just facing reality – Romney stands the best chance of winning the nomination and, ultimately, defeating Obama.

bluemarlin on October 13, 2011 at 11:06 PM

He has lost every national election he has attempted, the only contest he has won is for a liberal seat, in a liberal state…you don’t get that?
The reason he may be able to win, is that he is just a little less liberal (tolerable) than Obama, but he won’t undo anything Obama has done…
Have you seen any indication that he would rescind every Executive Order issued by Obama? Have you seen any indication that he would remove Obama’s Czar’s?
Conservatives must work hard to put a real conservative in the White House, not another RINO, not another professional politician who is afraid of taking on the other side of the aisle…we don’t need a pacifist, but we need a conservative activist.
And Romney is not that man, and conservatives know it…

right2bright on October 14, 2011 at 9:59 AM

Is it possible, Cesar did this behind Rubio’s back?

capejasmine on October 14, 2011 at 10:01 AM

Now that its been denied, is it possible that someone is playing hardball with Rubio in order to get an endorsement? Then, when they have not received it, sent this info out into the world to rattle Rubio support and show him “who’s boss”?

*tin foil hat off*

Alinsky on October 14, 2011 at 9:56 AM

No doubt, it is a “brush back pitch” to show him that they know what is cooking, and to back off because if his man doesn’t win, he is in deep doo-doo…and he apparently is getting the message.

right2bright on October 14, 2011 at 10:01 AM

Christie can get away with it because most grassroots righties already suspect he’s a RINO, but Rubio is an almost mortal lock to be the nominee down the road, so he’s sacrosanct.

*down twinkles*

bitsy on October 14, 2011 at 9:58 AM

With Christie it’s:

*down twinkies*

Fallon on October 14, 2011 at 10:02 AM

This is why I don’t want Sen. Rubio pushed up the ladder too quickly. I love what he says but I need time to know if he is the real deal.

Cindy Munford on October 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM

This is politics, folks. Romney is going to do what politicians do when it comes to getting elected.

volsense on October 14, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Don’t give me the crap that this is politics! I am not in the mood for niceties at all.

How would you have felt if Obama had in some way moved up or down the next election to a time when he was strongest and in good shape?

Romney knows time is not his best friend.

A confident candidate doesn’t go around pushing states to move up their primaries just to try and seal up the nomination before his rivals settle.

Romney knows, unlike you, that the media-trumped “Perry is toast” meme has a short shelf-life and so is trying to move in for the kill as soon as he can.

On the other hand, bombshells like the latest Romneycare expose will pick up steam and damage him further hence his haste to have it over and done with quickly.

Romney is determined to foist himself on us before we get a chance to properly assess his weaknesses? If this doesn’t prove that he is a Manchurian candidate, then what else does?

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 10:08 AM

Off topic, I encourage everyone to watch this Perry clip from last night and remember to tune in today for his energy speech – Part 1 of his overall plan to get America working again.

OT: Rick Perry on the Kudlow Report

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Does this inside source remain anonymous? I’m just saying…

balkanmom on October 14, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Don’t allow the media and the elitists run your lives. If you do, you deserve them.

Schadenfreude on October 14, 2011 at 10:19 AM

Off topic, I encourage everyone to watch this Perry clip from last night and remember to tune in today for his energy speech – Part 1 of his overall plan to get America working again.

OT: Rick Perry on the Kudlow Report

TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Saw Perry this morning on Fox & Friends. What a difference from the debates! He looked awake, relaxed and spoke cogently. Maybe those debates are beyond his bedtime? :)

My biggest problem with him has been his stance on illegal immigration. He was asked about it this morning and gave a tolerable answer to to me. So, I will definitely give him another look see because I would prefer him to Romney by far and over Cain as well. Cain actually stated that he would not rule out a gig on Fox if he doesn’t win the presidency. I’m having a hard time taking him seriously at this point. I also really like Newt and Santorum, but it isn’t going to happen for them IMO.

KickandSwimMom on October 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Florida has been attempting to move its presidential primary’s up since Obambi was elected!
Florida wanted an earlier say and now they are getting it.
Personally, I don’t see how it helps Romney one way or another?

Delsa on October 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM

You don’t want anything from Romney sticking to your shoe.

Laura in Maryland on October 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Romney may be our nominee so we’d better make sure the Senate has conservatives in it! Just in case Romney is going to do what some are suggesting.
When it comes to debating Obambi he’s better have fire in his belly and is ready to call this creep in OUR white house to go to hell

One thing we all know is OUR country can’t have 4 more years of this Marxist and the people about him.

Delsa on October 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM

I dunno. There are a lot of holes in this theory.

1.

Some Florida activists focused their suspicion on moderates in state party leadership – allies of Senate candidate George LeMieux and of former Gov. Charlie Crist — as orchestrating the change in the primary date.

This was absurd from the start. No way in hell Crist was going to ‘orchestrate’ anything to help Romney.

2.

The move was seen as helping the centrist Romney, whose superior fund-raising resources would enable him to score an early knockout in the Sunshine State before Cain could fully leverage the boost he got from an upset victory in a Sept. 24 Florida GOP straw poll.

If these alleged actors wanted to change the primary date, I would think it would have been something they’d have been contemplating well before Cain’s 9/24 straw poll “upset”. Yes, Cain has zoomed to the top of polls, but there was really no way of knowing that would happen on 9/24 – the date when this alleged conspiracy was supposedly hatched.

3.

Conda’s loyalty to Romney was highlighted in a Politico story by Scott Wong last week: “At least six past and current Rubio Senate aides, including chief of staff Cesar Conda and his deputy, Terry Sullivan, worked for Romney’s 2008 presidential bid, establishing a direct link and a line of communication between the front-runner for the 2012 GOP nomination and the front-runner in the Republican veepstakes. There’s also a trail of fundraisers, donors and consultants who have overlapping relationships with Rubio and Romney.”

So what? Romney had a great staff, Rubio chose to hire great people to work for him. Fundraisers and donors overlap? Why wouldn’t they? This is to be expected.

4.

In a March 2010 column for National Review, Conda defended the so-called “RomneyCare” Massachusetts health insurance program.

OMG, a smoking gun!/

5. Cited by R.S. from the St. Petersburg Times, emphasis his:

The firm’s clients included GlaxoSmithKline, At&T, Visa and Citigroup, which got $45 billion under the bank bailout.

OMG, another smoking gun!/ Costa was also on Jack Kemp’s Empower America Board and the Susan B. Anthony list, and as Cheney’s advisor he helped formulate the Bush tax cuts. Surely there’s some conspiracy theory there too.

6.

Some have speculated that, by delivering Florida for Romney, Conda would not only help Romney lock up the 2012 presidential nomination, but also secure the 2012 vice-presidential pick for Rubio

Mitt has always thought of Rubio as a possibility for the Veep ticket. There is absolutely no reason to go through these alleged shenanigans to obtain that result.

7.

Reports that Rubio — or at least Rubio’s top aides – are working behind the scenes for Romney, who is seen as representing the RINO (“Republican In Name Only”) moderate wing of the party, will be a bitter disappointment for conservatives who supported Rubio’s insurgent campaign last year

Romney was one of the first to endorse Rubio. Again, no surprise here.

8.

Cain’s candidacy got a boost not only from his Sept. 24 straw-poll win, but also from former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s announcement last week that she would not seek the White House in 2012. In an appearance on Greta Van Susteren’s Fox News Channel program to discuss her decision, Palin singled out Cain for praise, saying she was “intrigued” and “impressed” with Cain’s “business acumen” and “up by the bootstraps” success.

Again – so what? We’re all impressed by Cain. But to suggest that Palin’s remarks to Greta were an impetus to change primary dates is silly. I also doubt that Romney and/or Rubio thought Palin was seriously considering running so her announcement was probably a non-event to them.

9.

The latest Rasmussen poll shows Cain tied with Romney nationally. Recent polls by Public Policy Polling and NBC/Wall Street Journal show Cain now leading Romney, and within 3 points of the longtime GOP frontrunner in the influential Real Clear Politics poll average. Meanwhile, a new poll of likely Florida Republican primary voters shows Cain now at 34% to Romney’s 28%, with former frontrunner Texas Gov. Rick Perry falling to a distant fourth at 5%, behind former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who was third with 11%.

All true. How does moving up primary dates help Romney? If anything he needs time for the Cain glow to dim a bit – for the details of his 9/9/9 plan to be vetted and for gaps in his resume’ to be highlighted.

Buy Danish on October 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM

If this doesn’t prove that he is a Manchurian candidate, then what else does?
TheRightMan on October 14, 2011 at 10:08 AM

Dude, you are not helping Rick Perry when you make insane statements like this.

Buy Danish on October 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM

So why push up the Florida primary?

Mr. Joe on October 14, 2011 at 12:17 AM

To give 50% of their delegates to the GOP to use in selecting the annointed nominee. When the GOP uses the 50% taken from the jumpers, they are not obligated to vote the way the State primary voters intended. Let’s say Cain wins 60% of Florida. Under winner takes all, he would have gotten all 31 delegates.

By jumping ahead, FL not only loses 15 delegates (assuming the Gov is the odd wildcard), it also becomes proportional. Cain now only has 60% of the 15 or 9 delegates. The other 6 delegates gets split by the other 1 or 2 runnerups.

Now at the convention, let’s say it was a very close primary season, Perry leads by 6 over Cain and by 12 over Romney. The GOP takes their 15 and gives it to Mitt to put him over the top. Repeat that formulation with Nevada and any other States that get penalized (IIRC NH and MI, maybe another couple States).

By ensuring as many States as possible jump ahead and get penalized, the GOP ensures that it holds the trump card to coronate their preferred choice if the race is close enough.

AH_C on October 14, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Romney is Obama-Lite.

SurferDoc on October 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM

One other comment that I agree with another poster, how come National Review supported Romney.
Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Laura Ingram, Jim DeMint, Rick Santorum, Tom Tancredo, Ann Coulter…lots of hard core conservatives endorsed Romney in 2008 and they didn’t have to, they could have gone for someone else or not endorsed at all if Romney wasn’t conservative…as some are implying now.
In 2007 National Review endorsed Mitt Romney for President well in advance of the Primaries as the Washington outsider and being to the right of John McCain. This was long AFTER revelations about ‘Romneycare’ and his other political evolutions. At the time National Review seemed to view Romney’s Mass. health coverage effort favorably as being forward thinking and as being able to pass a free market solution in an ice cold blue state. So my question for those of you at HA is…WHAT’S CHANGED?! Or did the unfortunate passing of William F. Buckley take reason free from ideological purity along with him?
Think about it people. Romney has only gotten better as a candidate and solidified his conservative points of view!

I guess we could label all of these conservative columnists and hosts flip floppers right? I enjoy listening to and reading their columns daily but some are doing EXACTLY what they accuse Romney of…nice!

One other point, I have been a HA poster for years and find it interesting how soon some jump off the Rubio bandwagon if he supports Romney…what is happening to our party? The goal is to get Obama out and ANY ONE of our candidates is 100% better.

g2825m on October 14, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Laura Ingram, Jim DeMint, Rick Santorum, Tom Tancredo, Ann Coulter…lots of hard core conservatives endorsed Romney in 2008

Very simple: because at that time Romney was the only candidate with a chance to stop another candidate handpicked by the GOP Smart Set, John McCain.

… how come National Review supported Romney …

Too much time inside the Beltway echo chamber. Out of touch with movement and grassroots conservatives. In short, they are part of the Ruling Class and Cocktail Party GOP. Same with the likes of Will, Krauthammer, Kristol, et al.

pdigaudio on October 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Sorry, I trust not a one in either major party. If a strong GOP leader shows up riding a white stallion like Washington -I’ll only trust the white stallion.

The GOP has failed in its assigned role as loyal opposition.
They are neither loyal nor are they opposition.

Don L on October 14, 2011 at 11:30 AM

Think about it people. Romney has only gotten better as a candidate and solidified his conservative points of view!

Who cares how much better he got as a candidate -I worry only about him as a president and my answer is “never” they’ll have to pry my ballot out of my cold dead hands first (Thanks for the line Charlton)

Once and for all folks -we’re not electing a candidate or a great debator, or a smooth talking used car salesman-we are electing a president.

Don L on October 14, 2011 at 11:35 AM

pdigaudio on October 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM

I’m sorry that does not fly…Many of them selected Romney as their choice back when Huckabee, Thompson, Guliani, etc were still in…Rush had not endorsed anyone at that point but later he pushed Romney against McCain.

Listen to this clip as Rush was promoting Romney back in 2008. I love Rush and I am a 24/7 member. My point is that Rush and many of you are now backtracking on the SAME GUY you supported in 2008 and nothing has changed except Romney has gotten better.

http://www.rightspeak.net/2011/10/is-rush-limbaugh-hippocrit-or-rino.html

g2825m on October 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM

Don L on October 14, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Don that is freakin semantics…I cannot say Romney has gotten better as a president can I as he has never been a president? You know what I mean!

Romney for the CURRENT situation we are in, an economic cesspool, is the best CANDIDATE out there to fix this mess we are in. There is not anyone better at fixing this as someone who has helped the State of MA, Olympics, Staples, Sports Authority, Domino’s, etc etc all turnaround and become successful. There is NO other candidate that has the track record Romney has and you are being dishonest with yourself if you believe different on THIS point. none of them have his experience and track record.

g2825m on October 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM

g2825m on October 14, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Yep, and Hot Air commenters love to blather on about how Romney is a “statist”, but Mark Levin, the man who wrote Liberty & Tyranny (which first introduced thousands of conservatives to the concept of “statism”) endorsed Mitt Romney. And of course the Heritage Foundation also endorsed Romney’s plan for the State of Massachusetts.

It’s all about the genius of hindsight, and people who claim to be “principled conservatives” ditching their principles when its convenient. Also, Rush was comparing Newt favorably to Romney the other day, but Newt favored a federal healthcare mandate, so I’m having difficulty following the logic that Romney is a dangerous RINO, but Newt is a great conservative.

Buy Danish on October 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM

To all of you here on HA. I get it some of you do not like Romney. I am a strong conservative just as you are…Did I like his comment back in June about man MAY have something to do with the earth warming? No! I understand what he is saying that man MAY have something to do with it but I do not believe it. However, for the morass that we are currently in as our candidates EMPLOYER we need to choose the best person that can bring us out of this mess with conservative ideals and Romney can. He did it in MA his first year he was in office! He immediately went to his 85% Dem controlled Congress and said we need to cut taxes and spending and they allowed him to do it although the Boston Globe whined about it.
I read many of the things you all say Romney said and he either did NOT say them or you twist or cut off his whole quote to fit your agenda that promotes your candidate. That is wrong. He changed his position about abortion from 1994/2002 and has governed as a pro-life Governor and even has a record on this in office.

g2825m on October 14, 2011 at 11:54 AM

I like Romney, I don’t trust Romney.

I’m fine with Romney as Sec Treas, Sec Commerce, just not for POTUS.

The calls for Romney to be the nominee “because he can win” have become a bogus reason.

It’s almost at the point we could nominate a kitten named “not Obama” and it’d win.

We need to select on the basis of which candidate best exemplifies our principles, not one which is simply the least offensive to the left.

Jason Coleman on October 14, 2011 at 11:56 AM

Did I like his comment back in June about man MAY have something to do with the earth warming? No! I understand what he is saying that man MAY have something to do with it but I do not believe it.

“I will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people, and that plant, that plant kills people.” He was talking about a coal plant, not hemlock.

It’s that sort of comment that Romney made just after signing CO2 emissions caps for MA that makes me believe he’ll say anything to any audience if he thinks he can get away with it.

————–

As an aside: I’ve found a strategy that is seeming to work when someone brings up CO2 as a planet killer. Point at them and shout “Shut your mouth, stop breathing, you’re killing me with your CO2!” It works especially well if they have pets and you can ask them next why they let their dog poison the air.

Jason Coleman on October 14, 2011 at 12:04 PM

Jason Coleman on October 14, 2011 at 11:56 AM

I understand what you are saying…however, the percentage of STRONG conservatives like ourselves is in the ballpark of say 20-25% and then you folks like my family members (wife, bro’s/sis/parents) that are conservative but are not on the blogs daily and just are plain working folks and rarely pay attention to politics UNTIL 30-45 days out of an election and those folks likely make up the other 20-25% or so…it is about 20% of the indies and they are probably 15% hard core into politics and the other 80-85% fall into the category of our relatives. So we need to elect a conservative BUT also someone that will appeal outside of our WANTS/DESIRES/NEEDS and that was the strength of Reagan. People saw that he could help them (Blue Dogs) out and so they voted for him. Will Bachmann, Cain, Perry, etc do that? I think this is the question we all face and my opinion Romney appeals this large group of people and why he will spring to the lead even further once we do not have 8 candidates splitting the votes.

What do you all think?

g2825m on October 14, 2011 at 12:09 PM

Point at them and shout “Shut your mouth, stop breathing, you’re killing me with your CO2!” It works especially well if they have pets and you can ask them next why they let their dog poison the air.

Jason Coleman on October 14, 2011 at 12:04 PM

haha Classic! I like it!

g2825m on October 14, 2011 at 12:10 PM

One other question I have for HA posters,
Would we be in this mess today IF Huckabee and McCain had not started their shenanigans in WVA and taken out Romney heading into Super Tuesday? IF Romney had been elected we likely would not have been anywhere close to the mess we are in currently and more likely be on the road to American greatness!
However, reality is Romney was not elected and we are where we are today with Obama.

So we are now WORSE off and the same candidate with the same GREAT credentials is available in the bullpen who can throw the 98mph fastball against the left handed slugger and we are thinking of bringing in our 88mph curveball specialist because he is _______ (fill in the blank).

This is how people lose the game of politics which unfortunately is not a game as millions are out of work and the one individual who is an EXPERT is getting pilloried because he tried to take care of 8% of his population in his state. NOT 100% of the population but 8%. By the way those 92% of people in MA still have their same insurance plans as when MA Congress implemented the Healthcare bill. hmmm…..different than Obamacare which will eventually push everyone to a single payer something MA Healthcare DID NOT.

g2825m on October 14, 2011 at 12:34 PM

g2825m on October 14, 2011 at 12:09 PM

While “strong conservatives” may only make up 25-30 percent, the only “strong conservatives” in the race are Bachmann and Santorum.

Perry is a not a “strong conservative” he’s conservative for certain, but I wouldn’t characterize him as a strong conservative.

The great mass of the electorate is over Obama. He fundraising has dropped below Bush’s levels for comparative periods, and he’s plagued with scandals that are just now breaking and will be undoubtedly be in the media spotlight for the next year or more.

The economy is in such a state that in order to turn it around to the levels he’d need would require an economic reversal unlike any ever seen before in the history of this nation. . . he’s got NOTHING on the books or even getting near the books that can generate that sort of return.

People are PISSED on both sides, they need a CLEAR alternative, not a candidate that once you start looking at his actual history is more like Obama than he’s not.

The blue dogs have been not only abandoned by Obama and his wing, they’ve actually been shut out of the party for years. The independents are mentally suffering more than we are because they see no way to go, on one hand they stick with Obama and get more of the same, on the other side they see only Romney being declared as the “likely” candidate. If you don’t think that fully half of the spending from the left will be to show how Obama and Romney are alike, you’re not looking at the evidence.

Further for the independents, they hate Obamacare, everyone hates Obamacare, even the left. Romney has yet to state that Romneycare was WRONG, and doesn’t appear to do so any time in the future, independents will look at that and see two sides of the same coin.

We need to compete for the independents, not offer them what will be characterized as Obama light with some con rhetoric.

Romney is part of the aristocratic political class, and he won’t have the enthusiasm of the base, trying to say that he’ll generate enthusiasm with the independents because he’s centrist, is bogus in my view.

Romney is the McCain of this cycle. He might take it to Obama a bit, but more than likely he won’t once the cries of racist start up. Between the cries of racist, Romney’s ACTUAL record, and his membership in the perpetual campaign and aristocratic political class, Romney is not likely to deliver the crushing defeat Obama needs.

If Romney comes out strongly that Romney care FAILED, was a mistake and convinces people that he’s sincere, maybe he’ll have a chance; but putting out a book called “No Apologies” when he’s 180′d more than once and used to run to the left of Ted Kennedy isn’t going to make him a contrasting choice to Obama, which is what we need.

Jason Coleman on October 14, 2011 at 12:34 PM

The Romney hate around here is getting so strong that I have a feeling we’re going to end up with more than a few Obama cheerleaders before all is said and done. Sad.

Red Cloud on October 13, 2011 at 10:40 PM

We hate Dems more than RINOs. I would still vote for romney over obama but that isn’t our choice right now. On the political spectrum Romney is to the right of Obama but not by much.

Bill C on October 14, 2011 at 12:44 PM

Wow a hack job.

Can someone point out where this was specifically done to “help Romney win???”

I can see 20 other benefits to the Rep party and Florida politics for a meaningful state to jump in early – yet – I see zero correlation between this and the direct result… to get Romney to win.

What I do hear and see is the Establishment freaking out over this nonsense. This is an assault on the Tea Party – by putting out these “undisclosed sources” (which btw – is the supposed “smoking gun”) it hits Rubio by proxy through lessoning the Tea Party support of someone. If you cant get an enemy on your side – get them to hate other enemies more.

Trust me – knocking down the Tea Party – a group the establishment Reps have zero control and influence over – is priority #1.

And the folks here are licking it up.

Odie1941 on October 14, 2011 at 8:46 AM

Glad I posted this 4 hours ago… before the “update”

Though I do agree with many folks, this is politics and it isn’t neat and clean… even HA’s Ed and Allah are throwing chit around.

Odie1941 on October 14, 2011 at 1:01 PM

Jason Coleman on October 14, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Why will Romney be accused of being a “racist”?

[George Romney] resigned from the Detroit Athletic Club because they wouldn’t allow blacks, women or Jews to be members and refused to endorse Republican presidential candidate Sen. Barry Goldwater because of his record on civil rights. He defended the civil rights movement to LDS Church President and ultraconservative Ezra Taft Benson, walked in the funeral cortege with Coretta Scott King after her husband was assassinated and gave an impassioned tribute to the black activist at an LDS stake conference in Detroit.

He also formed the country’s first civil rights commission as Michigan’s Governor, and chaired HUD…

Buy Danish on October 14, 2011 at 1:14 PM

One other reason why Romney is the best candidate besides what I and others have already posted…
When it comes to states like PA, OH, MI, WI, MN, WV, IN, NH, CT, MA, etc who puts those into play better than Romney out of all our candidates and we will actually have some States come into play this time around with Romney. However, the other candidates, who I would vote for any one of them, others in those States above may not and make the race closer than we’d like if not lose in a tight one.

One other thought here…what if Obama dropped Biden as VP and had Hillary join his ticket? Now the dynamics have just changed dramatically and the only one who could compete in those States wold be Romney. I would not put this past Obama at all…

g2825m on October 14, 2011 at 1:19 PM

He has lost every national election he has attempted, the only contest he has won is for a liberal seat, in a liberal state…you don’t get that?

right2bright on October 14, 2011 at 9:59 AM

So did Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan become governor of California…a very liberal state even back then. He lost an election. Then he ran again and won.

What’s your point?

Conservative Samizdat on October 14, 2011 at 1:47 PM

It is beyond understanding how Mitt Romney who is the most consistently conservative running can be labeled as he has been.

The Tea Party is now only a hypocrite group run by Washington Lobbyist Dick Armey.

Real Tea Party folks are behind Mitt. Jeff Flake and Mark Rubio are only a start.

petunia on October 14, 2011 at 1:51 PM

It is beyond understanding how Mitt Romney who is the most consistently conservative running can be labeled as he has been.

What?

Romney is more liberal than what you admit –
*state mandated health insurance
*belief in man made global warming (hello regulations/goodbye to economy)

balkanmom on October 14, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Why will Romney be accused of being a “racist”?

Buy Danish on October 14, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Are you serious? That’s point number one in Obama’s playbook?

They’ll accuse him of using “code words”, secret racist dog whistles, etc. etc.

Do you really think that they won’t? They went after Perry for a rock on property that his father leased and which his father painted over, and THAT made Perry a racist.

He can’t make himself immune to the left’s cries of racism, which the media will happily parrot. ESPECIALLY not by using his father’s record (See: Perry’s dad’s rock).

Come on, tell me, do you really think the Dems will put their race card away? I don’t.

Jason Coleman on October 14, 2011 at 2:33 PM

We hate Dems more than RINOs. I would still vote for romney over obama but that isn’t our choice right now. On the political spectrum Romney is to the right of Obama but not by much.

Bill C on October 14, 2011 at 12:44 PM

I sincerely hope you’re right about that.

Red Cloud on October 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM

What?

Romney is more liberal than what you admit –
*state mandated health insurance
*belief in man made global warming (hello regulations/goodbye to economy)
balkanmom on October 14, 2011 at 2:01 PM

State mandated health care was an idea that didn’t originate with Mitt Romney. The idea came from the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation.

How Mitt Romney became a liberal for implementing an idea proposed by the Heritage Foundation is beyond me.

Also, Mitt Romney said man made climate change exists but how much it actually affects the planet is something we don’t know yet. That’s a position that other conservatives have taken as well.

Conservative Samizdat on October 14, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Are you serious? That’s point number one in Obama’s playbook?They’ll accuse him of using “code words”, secret racist dog whistles, etc. etc.
Jason Coleman on October 14, 2011 at 2:33 PM

So what? That’s true of all the candidates (including Cain who will be painted as a heartless Uncle Tom). Why did you single out Romney?

Buy Danish on October 14, 2011 at 3:35 PM

He has lost every national election he has attempted, the only contest he has won is for a liberal seat, in a liberal state…you don’t get that?
right2bright on October 14, 2011 at 9:59 AM

Do keep that comment on file so you can cut and paste it on every thread? It’s been pointed out to you time and again that candidates rarely win the first time around. Why keep beating that dead horse?

Buy Danish on October 14, 2011 at 3:37 PM

I’m actually a JINDAL person. Jindal-like Rubio-is
the son of LEGAL immigrants. That they weren’t citizens @ the time of his birth is irrelevant. They were here LEGALLY.

Bobby Jindal WILL be president someday-regardless of your birther wet dreams.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM

Be careful alt, your ignorance is showing. What’s also showing is that you and others like you would rather usurp our Constitution and call people like me names in order to justify the eligibility of an ineligible politician just because YOU like them. You and your ilk are why we are circling the drain. Native born does not natural born make. Twist it any way you choose, but the Constitution and supporting documents say you’re wrong. Go on… call me another name to camouflage your Constitutional illiteracy if it makes you feel better ~ doesn’t bother me in the least.

greeneyedconservative on October 14, 2011 at 4:41 PM

Jesus Christ. ENOUGH with the hyperbole and endless purity tests.

Maybe some Republicans are just facing reality – Romney stands the best chance of winning the nomination and, ultimately, defeating Obama. There’s no harm in making the safe bet. Especially since a lot of Republicans are playing the LONG game, and ACCURATELY realize that if you want broad conservative / Republican policies enacted, you need the White House to do it.

Vyce on October 13, 2011 at 10:47 PM

I knew you’d come around eventually. Like clockwork. Where’s all the Perry love?

ddrintn on October 14, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Romney stands the best chance of winning the nomination and, ultimately, defeating Obama. There’s no harm in making the safe bet.

Vyce on October 13, 2011 at 10:47 PM

By the way, this is about moving the primary, not “making a safe bet”. If Romney’s such a sure thing, why the machinations?

ddrintn on October 14, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Good writeup, AP

Seems the yellow brick road to Florida is oever cpompletely straight. I can’t play Flash video at the moment. Nothing to do but lay low and listen for the crickets

How does moving up primary dates help Romney? If anything he needs time for the Cain glow to dim a bit – for the details of his 9/9/9 plan to be vetted and for gaps in his resume’ to be highlighted.
Buy Danish on October 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM

It helps Romney because he has to speed past Romneycare questions. I think it is a mistake, in terms of the general election, but Romny made a decision to reduce exposure to the issue. In one sense he did not have to worry, because his opponents have not figured out how to separate the ‘individual rights argument’, from the ‘save the children trumps individual rights argument’ without sounding ‘heartless’

The difference between Cain, and Romney, is Cain has a suggestion, while Romney has a done deal complete with penalties for non compliance. Cain can backtrack easily and make an impassioned speech that 999 is an idea, and all ideas are welcome, convince me etc

Even the Sim City computer game having a 999 tax plan doesn’t hurt Cain. He can make it into a positive (I could) and there are a million ways to warm an audience – hey, that SIM must be a very good game – I may have to get a copy etc

entagor on October 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM

It is beyond understanding how Mitt Romney who is the most consistently conservative running can be labeled as he has been…

…Real Tea Party folks are behind Mitt.

petunia on October 14, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Yawn.

Saltysam on October 14, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Romney stands the best chance of winning the nomination and, ultimately, defeating Obama.

Vyce on October 13, 2011 at 10:47 PM

With what as his basic premise? That he can run a big government more efficiently than Obama?

Saltysam on October 14, 2011 at 7:26 PM

It helps Romney because he has to speed past Romneycare questions. I think it is a mistake, in terms of the general election, but Romny made a decision to reduce exposure to the issue.
entagor on October 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM

Eh, I don’t think that’s a good enough reason to screw up the entire primary season. He’ll be able to hold his own on RomneyCare (especially in the general). As for Cain having a suggestion, sure, it’s always easier to present an idea than deal with the consequences of something which has been enacted. It’s the old hindsight/foresight thingy.

Buy Danish on October 14, 2011 at 8:05 PM

In case you all haven’t heard, Romney is reported to behind the Nevada Primary being pushed up which made NH move up, which would make IA move up. This helps Romney because he’s afraid Perry with all his money will make a comeback, and he also wants to win these early primaries before Cain gets any more popular. Of course, we can’t forget Florida who Romney has obviously been a part of their date change too. Isn’t this sick, he can’t win by going along with the primaries as they were, he has to call in chits to win by cheating. Lots of integrity right! Sounds like Obama with Acorn cheating for him in the polls in 2008.

Some people commenting have said Rubio shouldn’t be a VP because he has only 1 year’s experience. What has Cain got…NO experience so that we would have a clue as to how he would govern as President, yet the Tea Party backs him with NO background!! That’s unbelievable when they always want the purest Conservative candidate. Is it okay for some commenters on this site for Cain to have NO experience in politics to be President, but Rubio doesn’t have enough experience with 1 year in Congress??? How do you figure that?

VFT on October 15, 2011 at 7:03 AM

If you don’t think the Republican Establishment is helping Romney to push these primaries earlier, you better think again. I used to believe, before this year, that voters picked the candidate. Not anymore. The Establishment decides who they want and then put out back articles on the competition and good articles for Romney like saying he has the nomination all sewed up (ignoring all the other candidates). That’s no accident…they want to make the voters believe Romney is inevitable so they will vote for him. Look what has happened in the polls. People vote for Romney because they THINK he is the most electable, not because they really like him (see his polls numbers are not that much better no matter who the flavor of the month really turns out to be).

If you aren’t disgusted by that manipulation, just think what it means for us, the people in America when our nominee can’t even mention Obamacare because Romney’s own people helped develop the program. Obama would just show Romney to be a flip flopper again by going against his own program. If Romney would lose, we would have Obamacare forever with all of its deficit increases that would come from us, our children and grandchildren. No Congressman will ever vote Obamacare out after it has been activated because the people who were covered would never vote for somebody who took their heathcare away!!! Yet, the Establishment doesn’t care about that, they just want our rich candidate who can get the most money against Obama…who cares about the people.

All of you have been saying for years that you don’t want the MSM picking your candidate..well how about the Republican Establishment picking our candidate instead of us!!!

VFT on October 15, 2011 at 7:15 AM

BuyDanish,

Sorry, Rubio was endorsed first by Huckabee when Rubio was way behind in the polls and nobody even knew about him, and then by DeMint. Romney was way later in endorsing Rubio.

VFT on October 15, 2011 at 7:22 AM

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