Half in Time poll disapproves of Obama, 44/50

posted at 10:05 am on October 13, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Time Magazine’s latest poll shows Barack Obama’s job-approval rating sinking underwater for the first time in the series at 44/50.  Despite this, Obama still leads in head-to-head matchups against leading Republican contenders, but only barely against Mitt Romney.  Time chalks this up to a significant gender gap that still favors Obama, at least in their survey of 838 likely voters:

Obama leads Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who sits atop the GOP presidential field, 46% to 43% among likely voters. The President has opened a double-digit lead over Perry, 50% to 38%, highlighting concerns percolating through the GOP that the Texas governor would face a steep uphill climb should he capture the nomination. Obama also boasts a 49% to 37% edge over businessman Herman Cain, whose strong Tea Party support has propelled him toward the top of Republican ranks in recent weeks.

In each case, the President was buoyed by his performance among female voters. Women prefer Obama over Romney by eight percentage points (49% to 41%), by 17 points over Perry (53% to 36%) and by 21 points over Cain (53% to 32%).

Obama’s strength in head-to-head match-ups with potential Republican rivals belies his own shaky footing with a weary electorate. Just 44% of voters approve of the President’s performance, a slip of four points since a similar poll was conducted in June. Four out of five respondents say the U.S. has veered off track, and 71% think the country’s clout in the world is waning. A scant 5% report feeling positive or unconcerned about the state of the nation.

Color me at least a little skeptical of this poll.  For one thing, Time doesn’t include any data in its sample on the demographics of its likely voters, or even the larger set of general-population adults.  What are the party-affiliation percentages? Age demos?  Regional demos?

I’m also a little skeptical of a poll that finds 85% of the adults in the survey are registered to vote, and then says 83.8% of its sample are “likely voters.”  I think that Time needs to ask a few more questions than “will you vote” to determine the likelihood of casting a ballot in November 2012.  Besides, in the subset of 904 registered voters, only 90% said they will “probably” or “definitely” vote, which comes to 814 respondents, not the 838 they list as “likely.”  “Definitely” got 84%, which comes to 759 respondents.

As an entry in the Time series, though, Obama’s drop in support is notable.  As recently as June, Obama had a 48/46 approval rating, which was an improvement over the August 2010 pre-midterm poll showing 46/45 — which probably overstated his support somewhat.  Now he’s dropped further than his pre-midterm standing, and this after a monthlong attempt to recast himself as a class-warfare populist.  That effort has taken Obama in the wrong direction, which is why I’m very skeptical that a proper sample of likely voters would show him in majority territory over either Rick Perry or Herman Cain, or near it against Mitt Romney.

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That effort has taken Obama in the wrong direction, which is why I’m very skeptical that a proper sample of likely voters would show him in majority territory over either Rick Perry or Herman Cain, or near it against Mitt Romney.

Majority Denier! wauggh
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ted c on October 13, 2011 at 10:08 AM

That effort has taken Obama in the wrong direction, which is why I’m very skeptical that a proper sample of likely voters would show him in majority territory over either Rick Perry or Herman Cain, or near it against Mitt Romney.

I’d think that likely voters would even pick Buddy Roemer’s dumb *ss over Obama.

teke184 on October 13, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Here’s what I think. We will be seeing a full court press to get Barry re-elected. They will go for the sympathy vote by making people feel sorry for him. Race will play a huge role, AGAIN. Especially if Mitt wins the nomination.

BTW, Did you all know that there is an OccupyWallStreet/ Monty Python connection? It’s true.

http://themorningspew.com/2011/10/13/occupy-wall-street-and-the-monty-python-connection/

bloggless on October 13, 2011 at 10:16 AM

The media/Dem strategy to have a Democrat and a Democrat-lite face off in 2012 continues apace.

McCain also performed best against Obama/Clinton… right until he got the nomination.

- As did Bob Dole vs. Clinton.

- As did George HW Bush in 1979 vs. Carter.

Both party establishments work hand in hand with the media and each other to give us the candidate they want.

And we fall for it… most of the time.

TheRightMan on October 13, 2011 at 10:16 AM

In the poll I commissioned recently, Obama’s job-approval rating was 0/100. The survey included one likely voter who, when asked “Would you consider yourself satisfied, very satisfied, unsatisfied or completely and totally pissed off at this SCOAMF?” chose the last option.

TXUS on October 13, 2011 at 10:19 AM

In the poll I commissioned recently, Obama’s job-approval rating was 0/100. The survey included one likely voter who, when asked “Would you consider yourself satisfied, very satisfied, unsatisfied or completely and totally pissed off at this SCOAMF?” chose the last option.

TXUS on October 13, 2011 at 10:19 AM

LOL!

gophergirl on October 13, 2011 at 10:22 AM

He wages faux class war while peddling dough from the inane “rich”.

May the fools who support him be utterly desroyed.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 10:24 AM

It’s the mom jeans. Women feel sorry for his patheticness.

NotCoach on October 13, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Hulk Hogan is now against Obama.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 10:26 AM

I’m also a little skeptical of a poll that finds 85% of the adults in the survey are registered to vote, and then says 83.8% of its sample are “likely voters.” I think that Time needs to ask a few more questions than “will you vote” to determine the likelihood of casting a ballot in November 2012.

You’ve got to keep broadening the parameters in order to find ways to punch up the numbers for Obama. Time’s a big enough organization to have a pollster who keeps internals, so the fact that they’re not being released right away shows they’re not all that anxious to have the methodology be part of the initial story, even though the numbers still aren’t great for the president.

If the current economic conditions keep up, “Are you breathing?” may be the only criteria Time requires by this point next year to be counted as a ‘likely voter’ in their next-to-last pre-election poll.

jon1979 on October 13, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Here’s the Hulk.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Not only do they not provide data on their sample – but if you read the questions, they purposely triangulate between “regardelss of if you are/vote Dem/Rep, etc”… which is done to deflect any true accurate data points that are required for any poll to be valid

“So I am a registered voter, registered Rep – but I may have voted Dem in the past….” which amounts to a whole lot of nothing when asked specific questions.

Odie1941 on October 13, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Time Magazine. What a joke.

RDE2010 on October 13, 2011 at 10:29 AM

The key to beating Obama in 2012 is now clear. Organize a nationwide shoe sale that Tuesday. Give the women something else to do. /

Extrafishy on October 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM

And therein lies Obama’s opportunity—at this point, maybe his only one. The president’s already talked the country to death with endless “major speeches” and a multitude of “major press conferences”—now it’s the Republicans’ turn. Let the country take a long, hard look at the bland, uberpolitical talking heads pretending to be contenders for the most important office in the land. Let the other side issue their canned talking points, their unimaginative, simplistic policy positions (“create jobs” “cut taxes” “help our kids”) and their “gotcha” attacks, on every cable channel in America. Then maybe a bored-out-of their-minds electorate will take a look at President Obama and realize he ain’t that much worse. Come to think of it: If the White House can manage it, they ought to sponsor the next GOP debate themselves.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Half? But then is the glass half full etc? What is so frightening is that so many knowingly support Obama’s dismantling of the nation, it’s constitution and our freedom, which most would sell in a flash for a government check or sexual freedom complete with guiltless rights to kill inconvenient babies.

Our nation is but a dark shadow of what it was even during the great depression.

Don L on October 13, 2011 at 10:34 AM

The key to beating Obama in 2012 is now clear. Organize a nationwide shoe sale that Tuesday. Give the women something else to do. /

Extrafishy on October 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM

They need to keep over sampling Dems – for that over samples women. But I have to tell you – my wife, formerly a moderate type has become a die hard Rep Conservative, as are several of her friends, including a few liberals – who appear more aloof to the whole political field than “for” anything.

And may I add a free FroYo frozen yogurt coupon to the shoe sale… that stuff is like buttery meth to the ladies.

Odie1941 on October 13, 2011 at 10:35 AM

And may I add a free FroYo frozen yogurt coupon to the shoe sale… that stuff is like buttery meth to the ladies.

Odie1941 on October 13, 2011 at 10:35 AM

Never heard of FroYo, but I’m all for anything that keeps women in their proper place…the mall./

Extrafishy on October 13, 2011 at 10:39 AM

Color me at least a little skeptical VERY SKEPTICAL of anybody that takes current polling seriously

winston on October 13, 2011 at 10:39 AM

It’s the mom jeans. Women feel sorry for his patheticness.

NotCoach on October 13, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Normally, you’d be right. In this weird universe we’re currently in, it’s the girl bike and helmet that gets their tears of pathetic to flow.

platypus on October 13, 2011 at 10:43 AM

Amazingly high approval numbers.

albill on October 13, 2011 at 10:44 AM

BTW, Did you all know that there is an OccupyWallStreet/ Monty Python connection? It’s true.

http://themorningspew.com/2011/10/13/occupy-wall-street-and-the-monty-python-connection/

bloggless on October 13, 2011 at 10:16 AM

That’s exactly where my mind went when I first saw the video.

mankai on October 13, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Color me VERY SKEPTICAL of anybody that takes current polling seriously

winston on October 13, 2011 at 10:39 AM

Does this include the poll takers themselves?

platypus on October 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM

“Hope is no basis for a defense policy.” –- Margaret Thatcher

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 10:47 AM

Does this include the poll takers themselves?

platypus on October 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Indeed! The poll’s sample and questions are designed to elicit a certain response and Shazaaam they do! The headline is reported everywhere…net take: Obama is not in bad shape…BULLSH*T.

Now it will take a strong willed R to call out the SCOAMF and bury him…hello…crickets…

winston on October 13, 2011 at 10:50 AM

America is ready to get back to work but the President is more interested in lies and attacks than jobs.

He’s got less than a year to go all Ronald Reagan, for real, not with lies but of course he won’t, the country is going in the exact direction he always intended for us to, down the tubes.

Speakup on October 13, 2011 at 10:58 AM

Marketing can do many things, but it cannot sell a product that people have tried and rejected. That is Obama’s reelection problem. At the risk of being unsophisticated and abusing the concept of Occam’s Razor, Obama’s reelection problem can be expressed in one simple sentence: “Now, too many people know him.”

Obama’s only strength was Axelrod’s ability to play on the imagination of voters. That strength no longer exists. People now know the product and have rejected it. They did not get even Chauncey Gardiner. Embarrassed and angry, the public is stuck with Chance the Gardener.

The irony is that Mr. Obama has not changed. He is the same man who was elected. His problem is not communicating, Republicans, George Bush, tsunamis, or anything else. His problem is the man in the mirror. There is no more there than an image.

Obama was all hype and no substance. That realization has dawned on voters, resulting in horrendous polling. Richard Nixon was never liked, but he was at least thought competent. Obama was liked but never competent. Now Obama is living proof of the old adage that familiarity breeds contempt. He is neither liked nor competent.

Even the hapless Jimmy Carter did not attain that status.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 11:09 AM

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 11:09 AM

That could be some of the finest writing and best assessment of Obama I have ever read.

Thank you.

Odie1941 on October 13, 2011 at 11:25 AM

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 11:09 AM

Yea but look at how well he runs against Republicans.

And he is the “black friend” most of you white boys and girls always wanted.

See, I have real friends. I’m immune.

IlikedAUH2O on October 13, 2011 at 12:24 PM

What the Dems are going through is starting to remind me of what it feels like to root for a football team that is losing badly. At first you think about how they need to get their game plan working. Later, as the other team’s lead grows and the clock starts to be a factor, you think in terms of specific big plays you’d like to see. Then you start hoping for a miracle. Then you head for the parking lot so you can beat the traffic.

For the Democrats, this isn’t going to ruin an afternoon; it’s going to ruin the next year +. They are clinging to hope that something big will happen. Right now, they just spin the news to hold off the inevitable depression (Ed’s article about the goofy Reuters spin on economic numbers is a case in point).

This could get very, very ugly and pitiful. It’s been a long time since this country has seen a big landslide but that’s what seems to be shaping up.

As the clock slowly runs out on the Democrats, their pain could lead to real mental illness. Those who switch sides will solve their pain problem (and that will happen a lot). But the ones who can’t or won’t will sink into a hellhole of depression. This will depress Dem turnout in the election, increasing their losses.

If that comes to pass we will face a unique challenge. Nothing is worse than being a sore winner. We will have taken the country back but must show compassion. Don’t gloat; just get to work on fixing the mess.

I’m serious.

Pythagoras on October 13, 2011 at 12:31 PM

All polls are nothing more than propaganda. All major pollsters are biased, most purposely for the left

Right now the liberal pollsters are in “make Obama the underdog” mode by decreasing their lies about his popularity and fattening the approval of the candidates they think can NOT beat him

This helps Obama by making it seem any of the GOP candidates could easily beat him . They are hoping the worst candidate gets the nomination.
The worst candidate is the least able to criticize Obama’s policies….Mitt Romney. Romney is most like Obama. This will make it seem less like a choice and more like it doesn’t matter who you vote for.
The RINO and neo libertarians(both liberals) think that attempting to win over the crazy left by being more like them is the way to win, a notion disproved by McCain’s huge failure against a far leftist with absolutely no experience in anything.

LeeSeneca on October 13, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Man, they have asked the wrong women! I, and the other women around me, have NEVER found Obama attractive, either intellectually or physically. He’s a moron and since when is a skinny guy with big ears attractive?

I don’t like Romney either, but he’s at least far more attractive, definitely has nice hair.

Frankly, physical appearance just doesn’t enter into the equation for me. I want someone with proven experience and the right policies. Gary Johnson was my first choice but doesn’t stand a chance in hell among the social cons of the party so I’ve settled on Perry.

Common Sense on October 13, 2011 at 2:56 PM