Blue Dog Dems getting nervous about the balanced-budget amendment

posted at 1:25 pm on October 13, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

If Republicans want to push even more Democrats out of Congress next year, one Democrat has suggested a strategy to succeed. The Hill reports that Blue Dog Democrats have begun to worry that Republicans will win the 2012 debate by backing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution, especially with an electorate so skeptical of government spending.  Rep. Henry Cuellar recommends that Democrats come up with their own BBA plan, and quickly:

Democrats in Congress are urging their party leaders to get behind a balanced-budget amendment (BBA), fearing that Republicans will use the issue as a political weapon in 2012.

President Obama and Democratic leaders in Congress have spoken out against the need for such a measure, but rank-and-file members claim they are falling into a GOP trap.

Instead of speaking out against balancing the budget, Obama and the Democratic leadership should embrace a centrist BBA measure, some Democrats say.

Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), who introduced a proposal that gained support within the conservative Democratic Blue Dog Coalition, said he expects Republicans to use the BBA against Democrats on the campaign trail.

“Well, certainly if I was [the GOP], I would use this as a way of going after Democrats,” Cuellar said in an interview with The Hill. “And this is why the more centrist Blue Dogs have come out and done this.”

Cuellar’s correct about this, but he probably won’t get much traction from a leadership that wants to continue its deficit-spending spree.  Barack Obama has hinted that Congress just needs a little self-discipline, a rather laughable assertion from a President that has offered a series of budget proposals that ran more than a trillion dollars in the red.  Nancy Pelosi knows that Congress can’t hike taxes high enough to cover the deficit spending level that her leadership produced, and a BBA would require serious cuts in spending — including in entitlement programs.

That’s why the Democratic party leadership might pay a little lip service to the concept of a balanced budget, but won’t advance any proposals for it, at least not the current leadership.  That does leave Republicans with a wide opening to paint the Democrats as the party of deficit spending, as Cuellar fears, and we’re already seeing that strategy play out in the presidential race.  Practically every candidate has mentioned a BBA in the debates, some repeatedly, as a means to get spending under control.  Moreover, unlike a lot of economic and fiscal policies, the concept of a BBA isn’t so wonky as to escape understanding by voters.  The idea that people shouldn’t spend more than they have is a principle that at least informs their daily lives, even if the level of consumer debt shows that it doesn’t rule their lives.  Most people think government should have to live within its means, just like any other person or organization in the US.

If Cuellar can’t convince his party’s leadership that the days of wine and roses are over, then his party will lose significant ground once again in the next election — and that will likely produce a new set of party leaders that understand the prevailing mood of the electorate a little better than Obama and Pelosi.

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Blue Dogs were a myth. They never existed.

madmonkphotog on October 13, 2011 at 1:28 PM

Who cares what the blue dog democrats say or think? They’re basically there to occupy a seat and when a key vote is needed, they’ll toe the party line, despite their “principles”.

PackerBronco on October 13, 2011 at 1:28 PM

I’m sorry, what’s a blue dog? One of those democrats who voted for everything Obama wants while saying they hated to do it? Yeah, screw them.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 1:29 PM

No one gives a damn about a balanced budget amendment, except dorks who listen to Dave Ramsey. Just another pathetic tea bagger move to avoid facing the ineluctable fact: the GOP doesn’t know how to create jobs.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

I see DWS is still practicing her famous form of hygiene…

Seven Percent Solution on October 13, 2011 at 1:32 PM

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are reasonable people. I am sure they will see the benefits of this proposal for the country and their party.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Lily on October 13, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Just another pathetic tea bagger move to avoid facing the ineluctable fact: the GOP doesn’t know how to create jobs.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Well…. well… well…

… What do we have here?

Seven Percent Solution on October 13, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Who exactly is a Blue Dog Democrat? Are these the libtards that haven’t had sex in a year?

David in ATL on October 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Just another pathetic tea bagger move to avoid facing the ineluctable fact: the GOP doesn’t know how to create jobs.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Projection. It’s a terrible thing.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM

No one gives a damn about a balanced budget amendment, except dorks who listen to Dave Ramsey. Just another pathetic tea bagger move to avoid facing the ineluctable fact: the GOP doesn’t know how to create jobs.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Oh looky here, Bif has decided to take a crap in the thread.

Can we get some better trolls around here?

Knucklehead on October 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM

I’m sorry, what’s a blue dog? One of those democrats who voted for everything Obama wants while saying they hated to do it? Yeah, screw them.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Pretty much.

NeoKong on October 13, 2011 at 1:36 PM

I’m sorry, what’s a blue dog? One of those democrats who voted for everything Obama wants while saying they hated to do it? Yeah, screw them.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 1:29 PM

They’re not Blue Dogs. They’re Lap Dogs.

SlaveDog on October 13, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Well…. well… well…

… What do we have here?

Seven Percent Solution on October 13, 2011 at 1:33 PM

A bacterium?

I hope everyone has cootie spray.

stvnscott on October 13, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Oh looky here, Bif has decided to take a crap in the thread.

Can we get some better trolls around here?

Knucklehead on October 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Troll or no troll, no one cares about a balanced budget. … Oh, wait, I’m sorry, a full 6% do care.

Sorry to harsh your conservative buzz, man. Maybe you need to smoke something stronger.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:40 PM

I hope everyone has cootie spray.

stvnscott on October 13, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Here ya go.

Knucklehead on October 13, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Can we get some better trolls around here?

Knucklehead on October 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Good luck with that Knuckles…

Strange photo up front, isn’t Cuellar risking his blue dog bona-fides by appearing in the same photo (or county for that matter) as Debbie Washinmyshorts?

JusDreamin on October 13, 2011 at 1:41 PM

and that will likely produce a new set of party leaders that understand the prevailing mood of the electorate a little better than Obama and Pelosi.

Obama and Pelosi support the dreck in the OWS. This makes them the same. They can’t balance the budget. That filth needs to eat.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 1:41 PM

No one gives a damn about a balanced budget amendment, except dorks who listen to Dave Ramsey. Just another pathetic tea bagger move to avoid facing the ineluctable fact: the GOP doesn’t know how to create jobs.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Let’s hear the democrats plan to create jobs BIF

Static21 on October 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Yeah, screw them.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 1:29 PM

We know you :)

However, don’t. Better to throw them all out.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM

No one gives a damn about a balanced budget amendment, except dorks who listen to Dave Ramsey. Just another pathetic tea bagger move to avoid facing the ineluctable fact: the GOP doesn’t know how to create jobs.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Why didn’t Obama create any jobs when he had majorities in both houses of congress? There were no Republican boogeymen to blame then, so what happened?

Meh on October 13, 2011 at 1:43 PM

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Should re-read your link there buddy. Or learn english “most important” != “caring”

Rattle that around in your head for a while.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Time to take the Blue Dogs to the pound… They have done enough damage…

Khun Joe on October 13, 2011 at 1:44 PM

Just another pathetic tea bagger move to avoid facing the ineluctable fact: the GOP doesn’t know how to create jobs.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Ann Coulte called you the Flea Party. I call you a Fleabagger.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 1:44 PM

The Blue Dog Democrats have proved themselves to be merely Yellow Dogs of a different color.

RJL on October 13, 2011 at 1:44 PM

Coulter

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 1:44 PM

No one gives a damn about a balanced budget amendment, except dorks who listen to Dave Ramsey. Just another pathetic tea bagger move to avoid facing the ineluctable fact: the GOP doesn’t know how to create jobs.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Bifungus… Run out and play now dear the Adults want to talk..

sandee on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

No one gives a damn about a balanced budget amendment, except dorks who listen to Dave Ramsey. Just another pathetic tea bagger move to avoid facing the ineluctable fact: the GOP doesn’t know how to create jobs.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Let’s hear the democrats plan to create jobs BIF

Static21 on October 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Short-term stimulus, long-term budget balancing, and a fair trade on an even global playing field. Are those the easily dismissible talking points you’re looking for, junior?

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

How about . . . I dunno . . . producing a budget at all? If they were sincere, and really showed some results on producing a balanced budget, even a dem might get my vote. You listening #US_Sen_Cantwell? But noooooo. Can’t let Republicans get any credit at all for responsible governing, so they sabotage every effort aimed at true, sensible reform.

Meanwhile, we’re left with Herbert Stein’s Law (If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.) as a policy guide.

starboardhelm on October 13, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Bifungus… Run out and play now dear the Adults want to talk..

sandee on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Apparently missed in your home schooling: bacteria and fungi aren’t the same thing.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:47 PM

Short-term stimulus, long-term budget balancing, and a fair trade on an even global playing field. Are those the easily dismissible talking points you’re looking for, junior?

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Yes, they are. Because the long term budget balancing never happens. It’s not like this is the first time it has been proimised. Those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.

Meh on October 13, 2011 at 1:47 PM

Blue Dog Democrats

Can we stop using this term? There is no such creature.

SouthernGent on October 13, 2011 at 1:48 PM

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Short term stimulus has been tried. Failed. Keynes would cry at your raping of his economic principles. $800 billion not enough for ya?

Fair trade is a feel-good scam. Look it up.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Short-term stimulus, long-term budget balancing, and a fair trade on an even global playing field. Are those the easily dismissible talking points you’re looking for, junior?

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

YOU Liar! You had promised that to Reagan and got the tax increase, while not cutting a thing.

NO one believes any of you, hypocrites. NO one believes a single word the Liar in Chief says either.

May all your dreams be shattered.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 1:49 PM

LOL, short term stimulus…

Yes sir bifidle, that worked out so well last time eh?

But kudos for memorizing the memo!

JusDreamin on October 13, 2011 at 1:49 PM

So early for the cognitive dissonance….

no one cares about a balanced budget.

Short-term stimulus, long-term budget balancing,

I mean. C’mon. Let’s try a little, would ya?

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 1:50 PM

May all your dreams be shattered.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 1:49 PM

He won’t have to wait long. 11/6/12 will be here before we know it.

Meh on October 13, 2011 at 1:50 PM

Short-term stimulus, long-term budget balancing, and a fair trade on an even global playing field. Are those the easily dismissible talking points you’re looking for, junior?

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

How are you going to do that? You can only jack up taxes on the rich so much and cut the DOD budget so much before you have to start reforming your precious f**king entitlements.

fiatboomer on October 13, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Short-term stimulus, long-term budget balancing, and a fair trade on an even global playing field. Are those the easily dismissible talking points you’re looking for, junior?

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

democrats wouldn’t know how to balance a budget if it smacked them in the face. We have had almost 3 years of short term stimulus..where has that gotten us, ace?

Static21 on October 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Sorry to harsh your conservative buzz, man. Maybe you need to smoke something stronger.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:40 PM

What do you got? I’m interested.

Mord on October 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

where has that gotten us, ace?

Static21 on October 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Ditched

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

I do hope,that

“Blue Dogs”,isn’t a derogatory type term,like TeaB*****!!!
(snark)

canopfor on October 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Ditched

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Here’s a slurpee.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 1:55 PM

Was this dumb arse worried about spending at all before this? Nope. Think stimulus, porkulus, o’care etc…

Now when it might hurt his re-election he wants to sound all authoritative about spending, and balanced budgets? Get real!!!

capejasmine on October 13, 2011 at 1:55 PM

What do you got? I’m interested.

Mord on October 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Sounds like he scored some of that Pineapple Hopenchange Express.

Meh on October 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Short-term stimulus, long-term budget balancing, and a fair trade on an even global playing field. Are those the easily dismissible talking points you’re looking for, junior?

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

In other words, a combo of failure, lies and fairy tales in that order.

cartooner on October 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM

democrats wouldn’t know how to balance a budget if it smacked them in the face. We have had almost 3 years of short term stimulus..where has that gotten us, ace?

Static21 on October 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Three years?

More like ten years.

You dimwits elected George “Spendy” Bush twice. You’re disqualified from economic advice.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

We already have Pay-Go, Pelosi’s masterpiece, why do we need a balanced budget amendment? :)

munseym on October 13, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), who introduced a proposal that gained support within the conservative Democratic Blue Dog Coalition

Even if blue dog democrats existed, and they don’t…they just hold out for more stuff from the democratic party, Henry Cuellar is NOT a blue dog…check out his voting record. He’s a charlatan.

Imagine the government practicing the same economic restraints that the average American struggles with under the obama regime. That’s just EXTREMIST!!!! /s

And, could we please use Jesse Jackson Jr’s $15 million pay day to buy some more trolls…this one is D List at the best.

HornetSting on October 13, 2011 at 1:58 PM

You know what didn’t work before? $800 billion. You know what we should try? Another $500 billion. – bifidis.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Democrats in Congress are urging their party leaders to get behind a balanced-budget amendment (BBA), fearing that Republicans will use the issue as a political weapon in 2012.
==============================================

Well duh,how can Team Right,trust,

the Lying Liberals/DebBaucherous Democrats,Progressive Scammers/
Communist Socialist Creeps!!

canopfor on October 13, 2011 at 1:58 PM

When it’s George Bush and his stupid refund checks, it’s OK. When it’s Bush 2008 stimulus, it’s OK. Now that the GOP has fugged the economy, stimulus is off the table.

Morons.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Three years?

More like ten years.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Wait. So your point is that 10 years of stimulus hasn’t worked and therefore we need more of it? And -you’re- the one disqualifying people from economic advice?

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 2:00 PM

You dimwits elected George “Spendy” Bush twice. You’re disqualified from economic advice.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Yes, until your hero shattered Dubya’s record!

cartooner on October 13, 2011 at 2:00 PM

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Your head got dunked in the school toilets a lot, didn’t it!?!

capejasmine on October 13, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Why didn’t Obama create any jobs when he had majorities in both houses of congress? There were no Republican boogeymen to blame then, so what happened?

Meh on October 13, 2011 at 1:43 PM

He’s not gonna answer your question. He’s got nothin’, except Cheetos and spittle.

Ward Cleaver on October 13, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Just another pathetic tea bagger move to avoid facing the ineluctable fact: the GOP doesn’t know how to create jobs.
bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

“ineluctable”!? Wowie-zowie, it looks like something finally received its Big Picture Book of Big Words from Jorge Soros. Is its picture there under the “useful idiot” entry?

ya2daup on October 13, 2011 at 2:02 PM

You dimwits elected George “Spendy” Bush twice. You’re disqualified from economic advice.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

You were disqualified before you voted for Obama. Because you were/are to brainwashed to have seen what was coming by electing him in the first damn place.

capejasmine on October 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Congrats to Obuma, he has managed to equal/surpass in 2 1/2 years what it took Bush 8 years. We can’t afford his “leadership” any longer

Static21 on October 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Morons.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Morons look at you and giggle. No one with a brain is for Bush’s blunders. You could hold two thought in that tiney brain, but it’s kind of hard.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

When it’s George Bush and his stupid refund checks, it’s OK. When it’s Bush 2008 stimulus, it’s OK. Now that the GOP has fugged the economy, stimulus is off the table.

Morons.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Tell us why you don’t like Bush again? Obama has quadrupled his deficits, kept all of his war on terror provisions, and added some new ones. So is your problem with Bush that he didn’t spend enough? Enlighten us.

Meh on October 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Why didn’t Obama create any jobs when he had majorities in both houses of congress? There were no Republican boogeymen to blame then, so what happened?

Meh on October 13, 2011 at 1:43 PM

He was too busy not letting a crisis go to waste. There’s no way ObamaCare would have been passed if the economy had been decent when he came into office.

Wingo on October 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Regular Dem: loves communism, loves socialism

Blue Dog: loves socialism, only likes communism

angryed on October 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Plus, no one can be a bigger “dimwit” than those who elected the utterly empty charlatan, Obama.

YOU guys will be mocked for eternity. Your progeny and you s/b punished for it, harshly.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Three years?

More like ten years.

You dimwits elected George “Spendy” Bush twice. You’re disqualified from economic advice.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

I think you linked the wrong page… dimwit.

fiatboomer on October 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM

I’m at the point where I don’t even think this would be worth the trouble. They passed a “pay – go” and how did that work? As soon as they pass legislation they set to work on how to get around it. That’s of course if they forgot to write the loophole into the legislation to begin with.

Cindy Munford on October 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM

When it’s George Bush and his stupid refund checks, it’s OK. When it’s Bush 2008 stimulus, it’s OK. Now that the GOP has fugged the economy, stimulus is off the table.

Morons.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Try making an argument defending Obama’s spending, without using a reference to Bush.

I’ll wait.

fossten on October 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Plus, Obama and Michelle will forever live high and dispise you the same as they do all other. You’re only fooled into believing otherwise. Go for it, plankton.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM

When it’s George Bush and his stupid refund checks, it’s OK. When it’s Bush 2008 stimulus, it’s OK. Now that the GOP has fugged the economy, stimulus is off the table.

Morons.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

LOL. Dems controlled Congress 2007-2010. Obama was prez 2009-2010. And in 2011 Dems controll the presidency and the senate. But it’s the GOP’s fault the economy is “fugged”. Sure thing dude.

angryed on October 13, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Cindy Munford on October 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM

It’d be a constitutional amendment and it’d have to be written in such a way that it’s not some sort of automatic tax increase.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 2:06 PM

S/b “despise” you.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 2:06 PM

When it’s George Bush and his stupid refund checks, it’s OK. When it’s Bush 2008 stimulus, it’s OK. Now that the GOP has fugged the economy, stimulus is off the table.

Morons.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

You can ignore the GOP re-alignment all you want, but the Tea Party emerged as a result of Bush’s as well as the Democrats’ big government, big spending ways. The GOP (Not RINOS) knows how to get the government off the economy’s throat so the private sector creates the jobs. Private sector jobs pay the bills, government jobs are the bill.

cartooner on October 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Duh…on me

You could hold two thoughts in that tiey brain, but it’s kind of hard.

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

And also bfifididis why do you assume we supported Bush’s stimulus? Unlike libs who support no matter what Obama does, conservatives can think independently. Most conservatives despised the Bush spending spree. We hated (and still do) TARP.

So stop with this bullshit that we loved stimulus with bush but hated it with Obama. We hated it with both.

Capiche?

angryed on October 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

I’m at the point where I don’t even think this would be worth the trouble. They passed a “pay – go” and how did that work? As soon as they pass legislation they set to work on how to get around it. That’s of course if they forgot to write the loophole into the legislation to begin with.

Cindy Munford on October 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Cindy Munford:That sums it up,rather nicely!:)

canopfor on October 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Heh

s/b “tiny”

Schadenfreude on October 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Short-term stimulus, long-term budget balancing, and a fair trade on an even global playing field. Are those the easily dismissible talking points you’re looking for, junior?

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

they tried short-term stimulus. It failed.

The dems have never proposed anything that would remotely be “long term budget balancing”. Simply saying “raise taxes” doesn’t = some kind of real proposal. What a joke.

Fair trade on an even global playing field? What proposals have the dems offered on this? A trade war? That’s what they are running on?

Idiots. I hope they do make these claims. It will be fun to watch them claim that by raising taxes on “the rich” the budget will be balanced without any spending cuts or entitlement reform.

You are as stupid as you are dishonest.

Monkeytoe on October 13, 2011 at 2:09 PM

When it’s George Bush and his stupid refund checks, it’s OK. When it’s Bush 2008 stimulus, it’s OK. Now that the GOP has fugged the economy, stimulus is off the table.

Morons.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

You need to learn before you write. If you know anything about the housing bubble, you know it was created by democrat policies. Moreover, again, Ostupid tried a massive stimulus. It failed. You failed. Liberalism is nothing but failure and stupidity.

Monkeytoe on October 13, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Monkeytoe on October 13, 2011 at 2:09 PM

Amen, but c’mon Monkeytoe-they have the Cash for Clunkers to run on…

Static21 on October 13, 2011 at 2:12 PM

Fair trade on an even global playing field? What proposals have the dems offered on this? A trade war? That’s what they are running on?

Read up on “fair trade coffee” – fair trade actually keeps people in poverty in third world countries. It’s more about subsidizing the green industry than, you know, lifting people out of poverty.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 2:12 PM

We need more new trolls. This guy makes ernesto seem like a Rhodes scholar. Open registration and send the link to Media Matters et al.

Meh on October 13, 2011 at 2:12 PM

Rep. Henry Cuellar recommends that Democrats come up with their own BBA plan…

What? He might as well recommend that they plan to have monkeys fly out of their butts and vote straight ticket in 2012. Wait til Karen Tumulty hears about the “draconian cuts” Cuellar is promoting…

Jaibones on October 13, 2011 at 2:13 PM

You dimwits elected George “Spendy” Bush twice. You’re disqualified from economic advice.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

You support the guy how outspent Bush’s deficit growth of 8 years in his first 2 years. Logic much?

By your logic, you should vote for a republican. Of course, logic has never gotten in your way in the past, so why let it start now.

Monkeytoe on October 13, 2011 at 2:13 PM

And just like that, he’s gone.

Can’t Kos find better trolls?

Ward Cleaver on October 13, 2011 at 2:15 PM

You dimwits elected George “Spendy” Bush twice. You’re disqualified from economic advice.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

The funniest thing is you say this while supporting the most incompetent and dishonest president in the last 50 years – Obama (he has surpassed Carter’s incompetence and we are only counting dishonesty while in office, if we counted Carter’s ex-president years, he would likely be more dishonest than even Obama).

Monkeytoe on October 13, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Read up on “fair trade coffee” – fair trade actually keeps people in poverty in third world countries. It’s more about subsidizing the green industry than, you know, lifting people out of poverty.

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 2:12 PM

But it’s a happy poverty. “Noble savages” and all that.

///

Ward Cleaver on October 13, 2011 at 2:16 PM

Can’t Kos find better trolls?

Ward Cleaver on October 13, 2011 at 2:15 PM

To be fair it is hard trolling HA while camping out at OWS rallies. What with all the taking a crap on police cars and all. Who has time to troll conservative blogs anymore?

Speaking of which, I haven’t seen crr6 in a while. I guess the “law student” is too busy with school, snicker.

angryed on October 13, 2011 at 2:22 PM

Short-term stimulus, long-term budget balancing, and a fair trade on an even global playing field. Are those the easily dismissible talking points you’re looking for, junior?

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Oh, rats, ya got us there!
Cuz that first, larger short term Porkulusstimulus was soooo damned effective, and lord knows the Dems are gosh darned experts with that long term balanced budgetin’, and anyone who doesn’t think a trade war with China is just what the unemployed needs doesn’t know their Smoot from their Hawley.

VelvetElvis on October 13, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Well, this discussion has certainly degraded into a troll feeding frenzy.

UltimateBob on October 13, 2011 at 2:25 PM

Democrats in Congress are urging their party leaders to get behind a balanced-budget amendment (BBA)

Nancy isn’t going to let anyone take away her credit card.

GarandFan on October 13, 2011 at 2:28 PM

Sorry but a balanced budget amendment is nothing but a change of process. A BBA still assures that the budget will balance out. Ok, sounds good till you hear Congress say, hey to balance the budget we need to tax across the board at a 75% rate. Its balanced, on YOUR backs.

An amendment needs to be passed that simply states that no taxable entity may be taxed at more than 30% Fed, State, local. Period, end of story. Till it is that clear and plain the games in Washington will continue to be played.

BBA is a joke.

Dr. Dog on October 13, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Speaking of which, I haven’t seen crr6 in a while. I guess the “law student” is too busy with school, snicker.

angryed on October 13, 2011 at 2:22 PM

Probably just got new orders to do the paid protest gig instead of the paid blog troll thing…

Tim Zank on October 13, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Your head got dunked in the school toilets a lot, didn’t it!?!

capejasmine on October 13, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Nah, it stopped. The toilets were complaining.

VelvetElvis on October 13, 2011 at 2:32 PM

No one ever said just because we’re Republicans or voted for W. that we supported his spending. It pains me to say it, but Clinton was 20x as fiscally responsible as Bush Jr. Seriously, subtract some of the more liberal social issues from El Jefe and you have someone more fiscon than Bush was.

Regardless, bifiduh, the pure scale and scope of the stimulus’ for both presidents is what is much different and gets the opposition in me raging.

Bush sent ALL American’s a rebate check to try and help us and the economy. Obama borrowed $800 TRILLION and gave it to one primary group: Democrat constituencies (union ditch diggers, union public employees, etc).

Big f’n difference.

preallocated on October 13, 2011 at 2:37 PM

they have the Cash for Clunkers to run on…

Static21 on October 13, 2011 at 2:12 PM

… and now the poor folk can’t afford to buy a used car because the supply is depleted.

The only way Obama could be elected was to run on Hope and Change since he had no record. Now that his policies have displayed the vagaries of those words, he’s only electable in the minds of non-thinking, knee-jerk leftists. January 2013 cannot come soon enough.

Wingo on October 13, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Troll or no troll, no one cares about a balanced budget. … Oh, wait, I’m sorry, a full 6% do care.

Sorry to harsh your conservative buzz, man. Maybe you need to smoke something stronger.

bifidis on October 13, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Make your arguments and see what happens…but don’t be a d!ck or you’ll just be asked to leave.

Youngs98 on October 13, 2011 at 2:38 PM

bifidis on October 13

Obama spent more in one bill ($862 Billion porkulus) than Bush spent on two wars the entire 7 years he was in office. Besides, the private American companies that have made billions off of the wars pay tons in taxes…so by liberal definition, the wars were also a stimulus!

One of the reasons why Bush’s approval rating was so low was because Conservatives weren’t support-at-all-cost morons and were actually against much of the spending that went on during his tenure.

And your short term stimulus, long term balanced budget is fairy tale when it comes to the Democrat wrecking crew that is currently in power.

Youngs98 on October 13, 2011 at 2:46 PM

Congrats to Obuma, he has managed to equal/surpass in 2 1/2 years what it took Bush 8 years. We can’t afford his “leadership” any longer

Static21 on October 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

That’s what happens when you Change from ChimpyBushMcHitler to Wile E. CoyObama Super Genius. You will always have a bigger/faster crash with a super genius at the helm.

Lily on October 13, 2011 at 2:47 PM

The Hill reports that Blue Dog Democrats have begun to worry that Republicans will win the 2012 debate by backing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution

They’re long extinct…..”moderate progressive” is about as far right as the lib-tard party goes now.

Tim_CA on October 13, 2011 at 2:51 PM

lorien1973 on October 13, 2011 at 2:06 PM

I believe you but I still don’t trust them.
Do you sell tin foil hats?

Cindy Munford on October 13, 2011 at 3:25 PM

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