Barbour: I’d vote for Cain if the primary was today

posted at 5:19 pm on October 13, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Chris Christie’s endorsement not surprisingly went to Mitt Romney, but another governor who was originally urged to join the 2012 presidential race says he’d vote for Herman Cain if the primary was today:

“He is likable. He does not give you the impression that he is full of himself, but rather that he is a straight-talkin’ person who, will tell you, he calls it like he sees them. He’s not trying to sugarcoat anything and at the same time he is not trying to be shrill and a chest-beater. He is a straight-talker, and I think that makes him very, very attractive to people,” Barbour said on the Laura Ingraham Show.

Barbour also said that Cain would not have trouble in a general election against President Obama, a critique of some conservatives who don’t believe the former Godfather’s Pizza CEO would be viable in a nationwide race.

“If this election is where it ought to be, and that is a referendum on how President Obama is doing, Republicans are going to win,” Barbour said. “If Herman Cain is our nominee against Barack Obama, I think he’ll sweep the south.”

Barbour is right on the money: If the GOP can’t beat President Obama in 2012, what does that say about Republicans? It’s one thing if he wins reelection because the recovery really does take off. It’s another if Democrats message their way to a win, if they succeed in placing the blame on “Tea Party Republicans.” With the politics this president plays, a true and robust recovery is improbable but his reelection unfortunately isn’t unless the GOP fields a candidate who can keep the focus squarely on the economy and not on his own vulnerabilities as a candidate. Cain just might be the guy to do it. He definitely has the confidence for it. He told Neal Boortz just the other day he thinks he could easily mop the floor with Obama in a debate.

“Neal, it would almost be no contest,” Cain said. “I can talk about every issue two levels deep. Whether you’re talking about the economy, job creation … I can even talk about foreign policy deeper than he can. Immigration. Every issue, Neal. … He’s never been a part of the black experience in America. I can talk about that.”

Clearly, he’s not afraid to throw down the gauntlet. Straight-talker, indeed.



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No, you are right, its not just the debates. He has substantive problems with his policy positions, his background, his debates performances, his entire approach to governance which more closely resembles the emotional way Democrats deal with the issues. He explains away his positions with appeals to emotion, or counter attacks with the same. As you say the people he associates with are also time bombs and there are more than most people realize.
He just isn’t that impressive.
sharrukin on October 13, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Well, you know his supporters answer with “yeah, but he got elected in Texas!” – as if that is supposed to be impressive or mean very much outside of TX. Pawlenty had a political career that included serving two terms as Governor of Minnesota, but that couldn’t stop him from being deadly dull. Whether it’s a dull Gov or a dumb one, you just can’t stop ‘em from being what they are.

whatcat on October 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Well, you know his supporters answer with “yeah, but he got elected in Texas!” – as if that is supposed to be impressive or mean very much outside of TX.

whatcat on October 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

I think they are just scrambling around desperate for someone to believe in and who that someone is matters less than their need to believe. Romney looks to be the guy and we couldn’t have chosen a worse candidate with the possible exception of Hunstsman, or Ron Paul. Maybe Newt will pull it off but I have my doubts. Perry and Cain are simply too weak in too many ways.

sharrukin on October 13, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Look before you leap on Cain’s 9-9-9 plan (link to CATO):

…instead of being a 9 percent flat tax-9 percent sales tax-9 percent corporate tax, Cain’s plan is a 9 percent flat tax-9 percent sales tax-9 percent VAT.

Let’s elaborate. The business portion of Cain’s plan apparently does not allow employers to deduct wages and salaries, which means — for all intents and purposes — that they would levy a 9 percent withholding tax on employee compensation. And that would be in addition to the 9 percent they presumably would withhold for the flat tax portion of Cain’s plan.

Y-not on October 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

So still no correction to this post? Barbour said his wife would vote for Perry. He didn’t say he would.

Y-not on October 13, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Maybe Newt will pull it off but I have my doubts. Perry and Cain are simply too weak in too many ways.

sharrukin on October 13, 2011 at 8:29 PM

You think Newt with his U-HAUL truck full of baggage (infedelities, quitting the Speakership, global warming, attacking Sarah Palin after Tuscon, attacking Ryan’s budget and never apologized for any of it) “maybe” can pull it off but a candidate like Perry who has said “you don’t have a heart” (who said he was wrong the next day for it and a few times after) and isn’t the best debater is “simply too weak”. Hmmmmmmm.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on October 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM

You think Newt with his U-HAUL truck full of baggage (infedelities, quitting the Speakership, global warming, attacking Sarah Palin after Tuscon, attacking Ryan’s budget and never apologized for any of it) “maybe” can pull it off but a candidate like Perry who has said “you don’t have a heart” (who said he was wrong the next day for it and a few times after) and isn’t the best debater is “simply too weak”. Hmmmmmmm.

Aslans Girl on October 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Thats right. I am not alone in that appraisal either. Most people have taken a look at Perry and decided he doesn’t have what it takes and Newt has done very well in every debate.

Newt’s personal baggage will be a drag, but then so will Perry’s with his connections to shady character’s, land deals, and pay-to-play problems in Texas.

There are no good options here and I would rather have someone who can articulate conservatism than someone who plays by the Democratic playbook like Perry.

sharrukin on October 13, 2011 at 8:42 PM

sharrukin on October 13, 2011 at 8:42 PM

None of those “shady” deals have ever been proven, whereas Newt’s baggage has. He even dared attack two Tea-Party stars, Palin and Ryan, the couch, etc. But, he can be forgiven? Suuuuuure.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on October 13, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Well, you know his supporters answer with “yeah, but he got elected in Texas!” – as if that is supposed to be impressive or mean very much outside of TX.

whatcat on October 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

I think they are just scrambling around desperate for someone to believe in and who that someone is matters less than their need to believe. Romney looks to be the guy and we couldn’t have chosen a worse candidate with the possible exception of Hunstsman, or Ron Paul. Maybe Newt will pull it off but I have my doubts. Perry and Cain are simply too weak in too many ways.

sharrukin on October 13, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Yeah, I think it’s absurd to be locked into any one candidate right now and demand others support him/her, too. Let things shake out as time goes along. We can watch as the also-rans slowly fall off in the upcoming months. In the meantime, enjoy the show.
:)

whatcat on October 13, 2011 at 8:53 PM

None of those “shady” deals have ever been proven, whereas Newt’s baggage has. He even dared attack two Tea-Party stars, Palin and Ryan, the couch, etc. But, he can be forgiven? Suuuuuure.

Aslans Girl on October 13, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Name any of Obama’s that have been proven.

This isn’t a court of law. Perry’s baggage will be used against him and there is a lot of it there.

sharrukin on October 13, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Yeah, I think it’s absurd to be locked into any one candidate right now and demand others support him/her, too. Let things shake out as time goes along. We can watch as the also-rans slowly fall off in the upcoming months. In the meantime, enjoy the show.
:)

whatcat on October 13, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Thats kinda my opinion. We are too far out to know what going to happen as yet though I fear Romney is being coronated as we speak.

sharrukin on October 13, 2011 at 8:59 PM

The first vote cast could be barely seven weeks away. Or, it could be Thanksgiving… yeah, it’s “time”.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on October 13, 2011 at 9:01 PM

The first vote cast could be barely seven weeks away. Or, it could be Thanksgiving… yeah, it’s “time”.
-Aslan’s Girl
Aslans Girl on October 13, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Only if a person is driven by panic. And even then, it’s the voters who will decide as to which candidate they want and which candidates they reject. Unless you happen to be one of those voters there’s not much you can do about it.

whatcat on October 13, 2011 at 9:18 PM

This post is still wrong.

Also, Ryan’s people came out to clarify that he did not (does not) endorse the 9-9-9 plan.

Lots of sloppy reporting today.

Y-not on October 13, 2011 at 11:38 PM

Arnold Schwarzenegger

Mark Sanford

Bill Clinton

John Edwards

Cryptic?

We’ll see…

the_nile on October 15, 2011 at 5:45 AM

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