Biden: We’ll unite the world to isolate Iran by doing pretty much what we’ve been doing all along
posted at 2:05 pm on October 12, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
How will the Obama administration respond to the Iranian plot to commit acts of terror in the US? Joe Biden said that the consequences will be “serious,” but basically says that the Obama administration doesn’t want to go beyond a few new sanctions “yet.” Instead, Obama wants to “unite the world” in isolating the Iranians, even though Biden acknowledges that the plot went at least as high as senior leadership in the Revolutionary Guard:
In other words, the same approach that gave Iran the notion that it could attack the US on its own soil will somehow deter Iran from doing so in the future. Yeah, that’ll work. Perhaps the Obama administration doesn’t realize this, but when a country commits an act of war against the US, we are allowed to respond in kind. That’s the way nation-states ensure that other nation-states don’t commit acts of war in the first place. And let’s not forget that it is the Obama administration that insists that Iran’s military backed this plot.
If all of this seems depressingly familiar, it should. The US got challenged by an act of war by the Iranian regime at almost exactly the same point in another Democratic presidency — Jimmy Carter’s. The Iranians seized our embassy and took our diplomatic staff hostage, an attack recognized as an act of war for practically as long as diplomacy has existed. Instead of responding in kind and making a point about attacking a superpower, Carter instead encouraged more attacks by negotiating for 444 days.
We’re now at risk of sending the exact same message. An insistence on global consensus that Iran is a bad actor as a consequence of a terror plot is no deterrent at all. Slapping a few sanctions on individual Iranians is an act of impotence when a demonstration of power is needed, not to deter just Iran but any other nation who thinks that they can gain something by attacking embassies in the US. That doesn’t mean we need to go to total war with Iran, but we do have to make their plot cost the regime enough so that no one will consider such a plot a low-cost, high-reward option. Bill Clinton got it right when he bombed Baghdad in 1993 in response to the plot to kill George H. W. Bush during his visit to Kuwait — a plot that didn’t involve attacking on US soil. It was a measured, appropriate response to the provocation.
Perhaps the Obama administration wants to keep its real response quiet until delivery. I hope that’s the case, but Clinton also made it clear that a response would be forthcoming. The window for making it clear that we will respond with appropriate and deterring power is rapidly closing, while the window for vacillation and impotence will remain wide open for a long time to come. So far, it looks like we’re getting Carter II on this act of war, but we’ll hope for something more significant — quickly.
Update: In an ABC interview, Biden said that nothing was off the table, but shied away from calling it an act of war:
Despite the ABC News headline, Biden this time explicitly says that the US won’t go it alone if need be in responding to an act of war. “It can’t just be the US versus Iran,” Biden says. It sounds as if John Kerry’s global approval initiative is alive and well. I hope that this is just a smokescreen for an actual response, but it’s not looking too promising.









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Ipods & Columbia House DVD Memberships being frantically shipped to our allies around the globe?
portlandon on October 12, 2011 at 2:09 PM
Bowing, yeppes, more of it.
Also, when is anyone going to report on the wag the dog timing of this. Obama was briefed in June.
Schadenfreude on October 12, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Obama’s job bill fails, put your rapey face on. – Biden.
lorien1973 on October 12, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking…
Seven Percent Solution on October 12, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Well Ed I don’t see Obama doing anything until he thinks he can get the biggest bump up in his polls or to use as cover. Call me cynical but I don’t believe a thing this administration says.
sandee on October 12, 2011 at 2:11 PM
GIRD
YER
LOINS!!!!
BigWyo on October 12, 2011 at 2:11 PM
If they’re not more careful, Sheriff Joe is going to divide Iran into three.
Christien on October 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM
World’s first living brain donor, post-op, confirms what we have all been thinking….Iran would have NEVER tried this crap with Bush/Cheney in office. They commanded respect. They did not apologize.
HornetSting on October 12, 2011 at 2:14 PM
Nobody messes with ol’ Joe.
John the Libertarian on October 12, 2011 at 2:16 PM
We are a paper tiger in the MRs eyes with these loons running the show
cmsinaz on October 12, 2011 at 2:18 PM
#Headdesk
simkeith on October 12, 2011 at 2:19 PM
Occupy Tehran?
Oil Can on October 12, 2011 at 2:21 PM
Here is how they plan to handle Iran:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY
The horror……
Jim M. on October 12, 2011 at 2:21 PM
That is DemoTard ‘scare the public’ 101. When it comes to cuts, they always start with the most needed and consequently most well utilized public services…Police and Fire…and usually teachers.
They don’t come out and say “Well, we’re gonna cut the useless budget we had for bike paths and park renovations and that huge grant for the theater and that statue we wanted in the square and the keep our city free from (fill in the blank) campaign and the kick backs to the public unions and program for teens that want to be mothers and JUST ABOUT 900 more bull$hit liberal wastes of money…
Funny how that works…you go JOE…
BigWyo on October 12, 2011 at 2:23 PM
There is no indication that this White House will do anything more than mere writs slaps when it comes to Iran.
This situation is very simple…Iran (and Pakistan) are at war with us but we are not on a war footing with them.Precisely the mistake we made concerning Bin Laden in the 90′s.
Iran is responsible for killing thousands of US Soldiers….
…..they are on the brink of a nuclear bomb ….
………they supply arms,training,and funds to terrorist groups around the world such as Hamas,Hezbollah,Taliban,and Al-qaeda…..
………They are the primary suppliers of IED’s that have proven so deadly to our Soldiers……
…They call for the destruction of one of our strongest allies Israel on a regular basis…..
Now according to this latest arrest…Iran is launching attacks on diplomats and embassy’s here in America.
Obama has done little to nothing beyond typical UN bluster that amounts to nothing.
He launched a war without Congressional approval against Libya in the name of “human rights”….but sat by and stated he did not want to get involved when the Iranian Mullahs slaughtered their people in the streets:
Obama:
….but Obama had no problem “interfering” in Qaddafi’s internal affairs….a country that poised no where near the same threat to America and the region that Iran does.
It is obvious that if Obama can’t solve a problem with a rouge regime by drone strikes or assassination teams in the middle of the night…..then he is lost on how to solve the problem at all.
Baxter Greene on October 12, 2011 at 2:26 PM
More rapes and murders if jobs bill not passed. Folks, we just can’t let this happen! Pass The Bill!
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-warns-more-rapes-and-murders-if-jobs-bill-not-passed_595784.html
a capella on October 12, 2011 at 2:26 PM
Um… why? Why would you hope for such a thing from this administration?
Midas on October 12, 2011 at 2:28 PM
Is this a joke? Are we sure this is Biden? I mean…could it be that this is Jeff Dunhams puppet, Walter. Biden might be locked up in some little suitcaise in some hotel room somewhere. :o
capejasmine on October 12, 2011 at 2:28 PM
Despicable.
Midas on October 12, 2011 at 2:29 PM
Indeed. But for some reason, I don’t despise Joe with the same fervor I do with Obama et al.
I truly believe Joe is dumber than a bag of hair and he just can’t help himself.
BigWyo on October 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM
Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!
John the Libertarian on October 12, 2011 at 2:35 PM
A plot by Iran?
Can you say DISTRACTION?
I thought you could.
This comes out now to distraction from Fast and Furious, the numerous “green energy” scandals and whatever else they’re trying to keep quiet.
The Mexican connection proves our borders have never been safer if you’re smuggling guns or drugs.
countrybumpkin on October 12, 2011 at 2:35 PM
Biden: Not only are we not going to do anything about this, we’re going to help arm the Iranians, thru drug cartels in Mexico, that we, the administration nor AG Holder know anything about!
capejasmine on October 12, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Not to worry… Barry is preparing a strongly worded speech.
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RalphyBoy on October 12, 2011 at 2:40 PM
Even as President he’s still voting “present”.
tommyboy on October 12, 2011 at 2:40 PM
Biden: “Rape, murder, arson, and rape.”
Hedy “That’s Hedley!” Lamarr: “You said rape twice.”
Biden: “I like rape.”
Doughboy on October 12, 2011 at 2:41 PM
there’s your foreign policy ‘experience’ at work……
stand up joe.
ted c on October 12, 2011 at 2:42 PM
What has Hillary said about this? Is she onboard with the sanctions approach?
BKeyser on October 12, 2011 at 2:45 PM
That’s right, baby!
When we get through Iminadinnerjacket, he will need a new pair of reading glasses after going through the new strongly worded letters.
Bammy’s crack team is going through now to decide which words to put into bold.
reaganaut on October 12, 2011 at 2:50 PM
Naturally, all letters will be printed on 100% green, eco-friendly, fair-trade, child labor-free, union paper.
reaganaut on October 12, 2011 at 2:51 PM
The liberal mentality is truley insane. They keep repeating teh same behavior and expect different results. They desire to seem thoughtful, reasoned and careful.
In this case, as it was with the embassy, taking stern punitive military action is the correct response.
dogsoldier on October 12, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Give them a break. I’m sure Obama’s working on a very strongly worded letter.
taznar on October 12, 2011 at 2:59 PM
If we had only split Iraq into three parts,….
a capella on October 12, 2011 at 3:00 PM
Biden: “You tell ‘em I’m comin’ and hell’s comin’ with me, ya’ hear! Hell’s comin’ with me!”
Mr_Magoo on October 12, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Guys, you’ve been in a covert war of attrition with Iran for a long time, including [I'm assuming but it's pretty likely] helping to kill Iranian scientists, in Iran.
You find yourself in Israel’s position vis-a-vis Hamas. Yes you have the greater firepower, but the deterrence is not there. Also, deterrence works differently with Islamic terrorists — they are simply not afraid. You cannot scare Iranians by threatening to kill anyone there, or to invade, or to bomb a few structures inside Iran.
That’s why Iran’s indirect murder of American soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq have not been retaliated to by bombing runs.
The way to retaliate productively, as opposed to just to satisfy an urge, is to build a coalition against Iran and to continue embarrassing it so that the countries that continue to pretend that Iran’s worldwide terrorism is not happening, IS happening.
Obama didn’t reveal this plot, 3 months after the fact, just to be pummeled from the American right for not doing enough… this is all tactical.
AlexB on October 12, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Joe, stop. Just stop.
You’re embarrassing yourself…
JohnGalt23 on October 12, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Are we allowed to do so (or more properly, is the Executive allowed to do so) without a formal declaration of war?
JohnGalt23 on October 12, 2011 at 3:04 PM
Time for President Barack Hussein Obama to “meet without preconditions” with the leaders of Iran.
Numerous cruise missiles strikes and Predator missiles with some stealth bomber surgical strikes in cooperation with, and conjunction to, Israel’s simultaneous bombardment of Iran’s nuclear installations with those bunker-busters we sold them on discount ought to meet the no preconditions criteria very nicely.
But, no. President Barack Hussein Obama is a flaccid leader and he leads a wussified base that is currently in-charge, and who also would sooner apologize to Iran for America being the real terrorists and then further apologize for being the cause of such ire. I’m certain Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Ron Paul, Michael Moore, Tony Bennett, etcetera etcetera Et al., would agree that an apology is required in this case.
FlatFoot on October 12, 2011 at 3:07 PM
We could respond the Pappy Way!
Carpet bomb every square inch of any symbol of the Iranian Mullahocracy!
For as long as needed, to get their government to collapse.
But hey that’s just what everybody here in Possum Holler is sayin.
Whadda we know?
PappyD61 on October 12, 2011 at 3:09 PM
They aren’t called that anymore. It gets around all that Congressional approval messiness.
a capella on October 12, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Yes for a limited time. According to the war powers act. Zero failed to do this regarding our attack on Libya however. He thumbs his nose at laws he doesn’t like and congress has no teeth to enforce the law.
They should have impeached him over that.
dogsoldier on October 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM
Maybe Obama should go to Iran and apologize.
vcferlita on October 12, 2011 at 3:13 PM
Lots of “Let me be clears……”
HornetSting on October 12, 2011 at 3:14 PM
I must confess I’ve never heard anyone holler for possum.
John the Libertarian on October 12, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Now go away or we shall taunt you a second time.
John Deaux on October 12, 2011 at 3:37 PM
Man, I would LOVE to see Newt eviscerate this guy in a VP debate.
XWing5 on October 12, 2011 at 3:39 PM
Biden… always clean and articulate
lol
deedtrader on October 12, 2011 at 3:49 PM
If this SMART POWER gets any smarter, we might as well run up the white flag.
Disgusting.
hillbillyjim on October 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM
Why would Obama attack Iran – After all, he hasn’t met a fellow Muslim dictator he didn’t like.
JFS61 on October 12, 2011 at 4:30 PM
*** Did anyone else catch Biden talk abotu the troops coming home from “Iraq & Iran” on GMA this morning(10/12/11)? I think could be quote of the day? @2:20 mark
http://gma.yahoo.com/video/news-26797925/joe-biden-iran-backed-terror-plot-outrageous-26905618.html
jlemieu1 on October 12, 2011 at 4:36 PM
One of my favorite political cartoons came out of the first Gulf War. Sadaam standing in the middle of complete devastation, shaking his fist in the air yelling, “I will never surrender!… and you missed a spot!”
Mr_Magoo on October 12, 2011 at 6:16 PM
Can I take that to mean that you are willing to defend the Constituionality of the WPA?
JohnGalt23 on October 12, 2011 at 6:53 PM
Yeah Joey, the current sanctions have worked wonders, haven’t they?
Hey, maybe just one more “sternly worded memo” will do it!
GarandFan on October 12, 2011 at 8:06 PM