Senate GOP to retaliate after Reid maneuver by withholding consent

posted at 3:30 pm on October 9, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Harry Reid detonated his nuclear option to protect Barack Obama from his own jobs bill.  Now he and his caucus have to get ready for the fallout:

Senate Republicans vow they will retaliate for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) decision to unilaterally change the Senate’s rules Thursday without prior warning or negotiation.

Republican aides say their bosses will now be even more reluctant to allow the Senate to conduct routine business by unanimous consent, forcing Reid to gather 60 votes for even the most mundane matters.

“Reid fired a major salvo and it’s hard to imagine a return shot won’t be fired. Maybe over the weekend they’ll come up with something and try to make it less worse than it already is,” said a Senate GOP leadership aide. …

Triggering what has come to be known as the chamber’s “nuclear option,” Reid overturned Senate precedent that allowed Republicans to force votes to proceed to non-germane amendments. He did so by voting with 50 of his Democratic colleagues to overturn a ruling by the Senate parliamentarian.

The controversial procedural tactic hasn’t been used in years. In a chamber where it requires the consent of all 100 senators to dispense with the reading of a bill, changing the rules unilaterally is considered bad form.

So what happens now?  Reid has essentially removed the leash on which McConnell kept his caucus.  Without the opportunity to force votes on amendments by sticking together, the Republican caucus is now a collection of 47 free agents.  Any one of those Senators can bring business in the upper chamber to a halt merely by objecting to requests for unanimous consent on routine business — say, dispensing with the reading of bills.   That would transform business that would normally take a couple of minutes into long, drawn-out votes to proceed that would take 60 votes to pass.

Reid and Chuck Schumer now want to have a “bipartisan caucus” meeting to allow Republicans to vent while avoiding that outcome, but as The Hill points out, neither have much credibility on which to promise any reform.  At the beginning of the year, Reid and McConnell worked out an agreement to allow Republicans to offer limited amounts of amendments while Republicans promised to stop filibusters on motions to proceed (as opposed to motions to close debate and vote) unless the bill in question was very controversial.  All year long, though, Reid has aggressively filled the amendment “trees” to keep Republican amendments from being considered, which had already angered the GOP caucus.  After dropping this bombshell on them with no warning and no negotiation, Republicans aren’t going to be in a mood to attend Reid’s venting session or trust him to keep his word at all.

The Senate clerk had better start buying throat lozenges, because I foresee a lot of bill readings in the future.  Of course, Republicans might find this change to their liking, as Politico reported on Friday:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s sudden decision to force a narrow change in the chamber’s procedures could backfire.

First, it could make it harder for Democrats to break GOP filibusters because Republicans may be even less willing to close off debate on legislation.

Even worse for Democrats, the tactics Reid employed to change a Senate precedent could make it easier for Republicans to justify using similar procedures to force simple-majority votes on hugely contentious issues, such as repealing Democratic priorities like health care reform and Wall Street regulations, Senate experts on both sides of the aisle said Friday. …

For instance, if a senator tries to offer an amendment repealing the health care law to a bill – after a filibuster has been defeated – and it’s ruled out of order by the parliamentarian, the chamber could presumably vote by a simple majority to overturn that ruling. And the amendment could stay pending to the bill, which could be then be adopted by a vote in the full Senate.

And if there’s a Republican president and Republican Congress in 2013, the GOP could be in a position to run roughshod over the Senate minority.

In other words, this fallout could last for years.

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Goody, goody, gum drops.

2Tru2Tru on October 9, 2011 at 3:39 PM

What? The rest of you have lives or something?

2Tru2Tru on October 9, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Democrats really have a problem with the concept of unintended consequences. For once, that might actually benefit the country.

NukeRidingCowboy on October 9, 2011 at 3:44 PM

The Adults Are In Charge

Del Dolemonte on October 9, 2011 at 3:48 PM

But the MSM will play the GOP as obstructionist, and Reid and Schumer as “reasonable” for suggesting a “bipartisan” caucus.

Wethal on October 9, 2011 at 3:48 PM

I can’t wait for next week to see what happens.

taney71 on October 9, 2011 at 3:50 PM

The Senate clerk had better start buying throat lozenges,…

Senate Republicans vow…
Senate Republicans vow…

they will retaliate for…
they will retaliate for…

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.)…
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.)…

decision to unilaterally change…
decision to unilaterally change…

the Senate’s rules Thursday…
the Senate’s rules Thursday…

… without prior warning or negotiation.
… without prior warning or negotiation.

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Seven Percent Solution on October 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM

I dunno. The dems always seem to have something up their sleeve. Maybe this is part of their plan to make the Republicans look like they’re the ones holding up everything, to lay the blame at their feet for Obama’s “do-nothing congress.”

IrishEi on October 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Give it a few years, when the GOP should use it most, they will wilt under media pressure on how badly they are treating the minority dem’cats…..

deja vu all over again to early last decade…..

sbark on October 9, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Harry Reid detonated his nuclear option to protect Barack Obama from his own jobs bill.

So, are they fighting a rear guard action? Is Harry initiating a circular firing squad to protect Obama from falling on his own sword? I don’t know what two metaphors mix well with this issue….

ted c on October 9, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Seven Percent Solution on October 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Can’t. stop. laughing.

IrishEi on October 9, 2011 at 3:52 PM

could make it easier for Republicans to justify using similar procedures to force simple-majority votes on hugely contentious issues, such as repealing Democratic priorities like health care reform and Wall Street regulations,

That would be a trap of course. We want Dems to have to vote yes.

faraway on October 9, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Just thinking out loud, mind you… but…

Consider the Imperial Obama… Now that Congress “fails to function”, isn’t it his duty as Dear Leader to implement things “for the good of the people” by administrative fiat?

This guy needs to be impeached sooner rather than later. Fast & Furious and Solyndra are probably enough. But if we turn over more flat rocks, who knows what we’ll find.

Of course, if the protesters get out of hand, then maybe Obama will have to declare martial law and suspend the elections. And of course, the dysfunctional Congress can just be flushed.

And we can hear the MSM now supporting these things for the “good of the nation”.

CrazyGene on October 9, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Seven Percent Solution on October 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Good one.

Good one.

SlaveDog on October 9, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Seven Percent Solution on October 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM

will they get congressman lewis to stand idly by like a houseplant?

ted c on October 9, 2011 at 3:59 PM

In other words, this fallout could last for years.

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RealMc on October 9, 2011 at 4:02 PM

I dunno. The dems always seem to have something up their sleeve. Maybe this is part of their plan to make the Republicans look like they’re the ones holding up everything, to lay the blame at their feet for Obama’s “do-nothing congress.”

IrishEi on October 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Of course it is. However, the ham-handed way that they did it is obvious to all but the willfully ignorant. They have alienated Conservatives and Libertarians, they are driving away the uncommitted, and even some liberals are starting to voice doubts. With any luck at all, the current Congress and administration will be the beginning of the final destruction of the Democratic Party.

Rusty Bill on October 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM

Liberals have a common problem; They never think about the unintended consequences of their actions.

Dasher on October 9, 2011 at 4:07 PM

I wish I could get excited about this, but the GOP is way too spineless to actually use any of this to their advantage. McConnell will cower at Reid’s feet and beg forgiveness.

KSgop on October 9, 2011 at 4:08 PM

But the MSM will play the GOP as obstructionist, and Reid and Schumer as “reasonable” for suggesting a “bipartisan” caucus.

Wethal on October 9, 2011 at 3:48 PM

The “MSM” is a left wing tool and has all but lost its credibility. Let them do what they may . . . they fool no one.

rplat on October 9, 2011 at 4:09 PM

I dunno. The dems always seem to have something up their sleeve. Maybe this is part of their plan to make the Republicans look like they’re the ones holding up everything, to lay the blame at their feet for Obama’s “do-nothing congress.”

IrishEi on October 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM

No. They are just pigs. Sometimes they have a strategy, and sometimes they are just stupid. Corruption always ends up killing itself.

fossten on October 9, 2011 at 4:11 PM

In other words, this fallout could last for years.

That would be nice if it were true.

The odds are though, the next congress, if it is Republican controlled, will extend a hand of pure blind idiotic friendship to the Dems. They’ll want to let everyone know it’s a brand new freaking day and we’ve got to show America that the GOP is more than happy to work with and appease once again the party that nearly destroyed the country.

That is, if.. if we keep the same tired old RINO leaders. When the Republican take back congress… we need new fresh leaders. RINO’s are as much responsible for where we are as the Dems. RINO’s will have had nothing to do with regaining a majority. They should not be allowed back into positions of power.

JellyToast on October 9, 2011 at 4:14 PM

I would love to see all of the bills read on the floor and a rule that requires a Senator to be in attendance at the reading in order to cast a vote.

kringeesmom on October 9, 2011 at 4:14 PM

I dunno. The dems always seem to have something up their sleeve. Maybe this is part of their plan to make the Republicans look like they’re the ones holding up everything, to lay the blame at their feet for Obama’s “do-nothing congress.”

IrishEi on October 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Exactly.

Watch for Obama to continue to gin up the protestors. Firing up the base. Of libtards.

Key West Reader on October 9, 2011 at 4:15 PM

The Senate clerk had better start buying throat lozenges, because I foresee a lot of bill readings in the future.

They’ll just hire speed readers like they have done in the past.

Blake on October 9, 2011 at 4:15 PM

This reminds me of Hoaxel and Gretel.

http://themorningspew.com/2011/10/09/german-police-suspect-hansel-story-was-hoax-gretel-still-missing/

bloggless on October 9, 2011 at 4:16 PM

We need a committe or something.

SouthernGent on October 9, 2011 at 4:18 PM

There are thugs in Washington, Obama, Holder, Reid.

The incontinent, in the head/pants, Reid deserves nothing good. He is the most passive-aggressive fool the sorry people of NV reelected.

Wait until they are the minority again.

p.s. McConnell also needs to be replaced.

Schadenfreude on October 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Can you imagine the Senate clerk having to read the Obaamacare Bill….in its entirety? He’d still be reading it today.

And we’d probably be a good bit better off as a result.

I like this.

(And to Harry Reid (D-NV) all I can say is “Suspend this, Harry.”)

coldwarrior on October 9, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Watch for Obama to continue to gin up the protestors. Firing up the base. Of libtards.

Key West Reader on October 9, 2011 at 4:15 PM

That’s easy…
Fired Up!
“Fired up”
Ready To Go!
“Ready to go”

txhsmom on October 9, 2011 at 4:29 PM

We need a committe or something.
SouthernGent on October 9, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Only if it helps keep them from doing stuff. :)

whatcat on October 9, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Please tell me for once the r’s have given the d’s the shaft with dingy’s move! Gads, I hope this works out! BTW, r’s do not go to a meeting with dingy and schumer and cave! You better not!
L

letget on October 9, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Y’all know that the Republicans will roll this back if they take over.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Solution: Change it back immediately.

Reid let his pride endanger the country.

scotash on October 9, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Seven Percent Solution on October 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Thanks – now I have to clean off my computer screen

LOL!!!!

gophergirl on October 9, 2011 at 4:42 PM

The Ds in the Senate are like the OWS crowd’s leaders, not their speakers. The Leaders are: Obama, the union thugs, Van Jones and G. Soros.

Schadenfreude on October 9, 2011 at 4:42 PM

Oh and GOP – for once don’t back down on this.

gophergirl on October 9, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Of course it is. However, the ham-handed way that they did it is obvious to all but the willfully ignorant.

Rusty Bill on October 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM

it is obvious to all but the willfully ignorant
By this you mean the majority of American voters.

in_awe on October 9, 2011 at 4:49 PM

In other words, this fallout could last for years.

No, just about a year, after that it’s “Katie, bar the door!

Akzed on October 9, 2011 at 4:52 PM

No, just about a year, after that it’s “Katie, bar the door!

Akzed on October 9, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Somebody needs to stand up on the Senate floor and say “For the record Mr. reid, are you sure you want to do this?” And then explain in depth exactly what this means. It will hang around the necks of the dems in 2013.

VegasRick on October 9, 2011 at 4:56 PM

And if there’s a Republican president and Republican Congress in 2013, the GOP could be in a position to run roughshod over the Senate minority.

And yet we know that while this *should* happen, it *won’t* happen.

GOP have proven themselves adept at bending over and taking it when the Dems ‘run roughshod’ over them, but always seem to want to take the high road and demur when given an opportunity to return the favor.

They damn well had better start putting the shiv to the Dems like they’re political lives (and ours as a country) depend upon it, because, well, they do.

Midas on October 9, 2011 at 4:59 PM

no more mr nice guy gop elite….

fight fire with fire…

cmsinaz on October 9, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Wethal on October 9, 2011 at 3:48 PM

ding ding ding and the gop elite will fall in line because they want to look good for the lsm…why, i don’t know…

cmsinaz on October 9, 2011 at 5:03 PM

See, you all it see. All these GOP senators are all do nothing and slowing down the normally smooth business of the senate. More Washington gridlock from the Republicans. Making them read bills in the chambers, calling for 60 senators to vote for on normal small non-important votes, it is undemocratic…../displayed on TOTUS

tjexcite on October 9, 2011 at 5:04 PM

JellyToast on October 9, 2011 at 4:14 PM

afraid you’re right..
*sigh*

cmsinaz on October 9, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Puh-Leeze……

The Repub’s don’t have the balls.

Boner is a perfect example of a nut-less Repub leader who reminds us daily of what a wuss he is.

Tim_CA on October 9, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Can you imagine the Senate clerk having to read the Obaamacare Bill….in its entirety? He’d still be reading it today.

And we’d probably be a good bit better off as a result.

I like this.

(And to Harry Reid (D-NV) all I can say is “Suspend this, Harry.”)

coldwarrior on October 9, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Whether he realizes it or not (and my bet is he doesn’t because he’s a fundamentally clueless jack***), Reid just put an end to any more “You have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it” maneuvers ala’ ObamaCare.

I further suspect that once The One realizes what just happened, He Will Not Be Amused.

It’s sort of like taking a hard swing at a golf ball in the sandtrap and clipping yourself backside of your own head on the follow-through. It hurts like h**l, and you have only yourself to blame.

clear ether

eon

eon on October 9, 2011 at 5:22 PM

YAY!!!

Sporty1946 on October 9, 2011 at 5:31 PM

I think the reading of the bills is always a good idea. We would then likely have fewer of them and they would be shorter. Not a bad thing, in my opinion.

crosspatch on October 9, 2011 at 5:39 PM

As you sow, so shall you reap…

(The polite way of saying payback is a mf-er)

karl9000 on October 9, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Dingy Harry just dumped gasoline all over himself and Mitch McConnell just gave him a book of matches…

Khun Joe on October 9, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Dingy Harry just dumped gasoline all over himself and Mitch McConnell just gave him a book of matches…

Khun Joe on October 9, 2011 at 5:46 PM

I hope he’s in DC when he ignites, take some other D – douchebags with him.

VegasRick on October 9, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Reid and Chuck Schumer now want to have a “bipartisan caucus” meeting to allow Republicans to vent

Oh, I’m sure they’ll ‘vent’. And when Reid says he hopes they’ll continue their spirit of bipartisanship, the conservatives will follow up with “SHOVE IT!”.

GarandFan on October 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Oh, I’m sure they’ll ‘vent’. And when Reid says he hopes they’ll continue their spirit of bipartisanship, the conservatives will follow up with “SHOVE IT!”.

GarandFan on October 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

That’s great, except… they wont. lol

Midas on October 9, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Reid and Chuck Schumer now want to have a “bipartisan caucus” meeting to allow Republicans to vent

Oh, I’m sure they’ll ‘vent’. And when Reid says he hopes they’ll continue their spirit of bipartisanship, the conservatives will follow up with “SHOVE IT!”.

GarandFan on October 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

If there is one thing the Dems can count on more than the loyalty of their own, it’s the servile ineptitude of the Senate Rs. Reid knows the Rs will huff and puff and then get distracted by something more important, like a leaf falling to the ground.

FalseProfit on October 9, 2011 at 6:03 PM

So the clerk will have to read every word of every bill? And therefore we might get less legislation through the Senate while the Dems are in charge??

How is any of this a bad thing???

Personally, I think every Senator and every Representative should have to initial each page of each bill before it can become law!!! We’d get less foolishness, fewer bad provisions, and fewer pages of new legislation: in other words, a huge WIN for the AMERICAN CITIZEN!!! As some wag said:

The only certainties in life are death and taxes. The difference is that death doesn’t get worse every time Congress meets!!

landlines on October 9, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Not sure if Harry understands that 2012 is going to be even worse for the Dems than 2010. GOP President, 20+ more seats in the House and control of the Senate.

Not so sure if the additude of the incoming Republicans is going to be the same as in the past where the GOP played nicey-nicey. I believe that many of the new crowd are going to tell the Dems to go pound sand the way the Dems have always done to the Republicans.

joelj31 on October 9, 2011 at 6:34 PM

I heard somewhere that the Obummer administration is seeking to impose rules whereby all of the anointed one’s papers will be kept secret unless the anointed one deems them available to the public.

It is sort of a preemptive fifth amendment for the “president” if he loses the election.

Dhuka on October 9, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Oh yeah, I’m sure that mighty, principled “leader,” Mitch McConnell, he who has stood forthrightly against Reid and bad legislation so often in the past (remember his brave fight against Osama ObamaCare? Neither do I), will use this opportunity to do something for the good of the nation and his party.

Uh-huh. Right. Absolutely. Any day now.

Good thing this wasn’t the House. Boner would be weeping now.

Reid — and the SCoaMF — win again.

MrScribbler on October 9, 2011 at 6:43 PM

But the MSM will play the GOP as obstructionist, and Reid and Schumer as “reasonable” for suggesting a “bipartisan” caucus.

Wethal on October 9, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Pop Quiz:

Suggest circumstances in which the MSM will not play the GOP as obstructionist, and/or will not play Democrat “leaders” as reasonable.

Extra credit will be awarded if actual historical examples are cited as supporting evidence.

/

RedPepper on October 9, 2011 at 6:44 PM

This presumes the GOP has the cajones to use this option. When the time actually comes, the Maine sisters, Brown, Graham, McCain will falter.

bluemarlin on October 9, 2011 at 6:46 PM

Good. Read the bills. All of them. If they had been required to do that with ObamaCare, it never would have passed. And if Reid’s move means it will be easier to repeal, then I say “Right on!”

parteagirl on October 9, 2011 at 6:49 PM

Senate GOP to retaliate after Reid maneuver by withholding consent
==================================================================

I do hope,it’ll be a GOP Shock and Awe Political
Strike!!!!

(Sarc,yes,I’m,kidding)

canopfor on October 9, 2011 at 6:55 PM

Repeat After Me…
Repeat After Me

I Promise…
I Promise

Not to repeat…
Not to repeat

Other things people say…
Other things people say

Kini on October 9, 2011 at 7:13 PM

To paraphrase Hollywood Leonidas, once there’s a GOP majority in House and Senate, as well as a Republican Chief Executive, ‘Give them nothing. Take from them everything.’

Enough of this ‘reaching across the aisle’ nonsense, please. They’re Democrats, which now–thanks to the direction of their party leadership–makes them de facto socialists, all of them, either true believers or fellow travelers. No more compromises. No more ‘go along and get along’. Recognize there are no bipartisan solutions and run over them whenever the opportunity presents itself. Block every move they make. Balk. Thwart. Oppose. Stand in their way.

troyriser_gopftw on October 9, 2011 at 7:18 PM

And if there’s a Republican president and Republican Congress in 2013, the GOP could be in a position to run roughshod over the Senate minority.

I’m going to enjoy this.

Hawkins1701 on October 9, 2011 at 7:26 PM

OMG! Snowe, Collins and Brown unleashed! The Demorats had better look out. Throw in Lefty Graham and they have 60 votes on anything they want. Yes sir, those R’s are one hell of a group of patriots.

inspectorudy on October 9, 2011 at 7:39 PM

It’ almost like their stupid. Oh. Yeah. Never mind.

watson007 on October 9, 2011 at 7:56 PM

I’m sure the democrats are quaking in their boots. That GOP is one scary bunch.

rrpjr on October 9, 2011 at 7:57 PM

It’s almost like G_D is giving the Republicans a final opportunity to locate their spines and show some leadership.

oldleprechaun on October 9, 2011 at 8:07 PM

I wish I could get excited about this, but the GOP is way too spineless to actually use any of this to their advantage. McConnell will cower at Reid’s feet and beg forgiveness.

KSgop on October 9, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Exactly my thinking as well. Time after time after time again, the Republicans have shown a sheer willingness to claim victory through capitulation. To prove the point, look no further than the debt ceiling debacle where Boehner and Cantor caved as soon as the going got tough.

Mahdi on October 9, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Watch for Obama to continue to gin up the protestors. Firing up the base. Of libtards.

“Top down. Bottom up. Inside out.”

They want a Reichstagsbrand so bad they can taste it. Then they can have their Reichstagsbrandverordnung und Ermächtigungsgesetz.

I think I just killed any chance I might have had to be on MNF.

The Monster on October 9, 2011 at 9:06 PM

The only way that Reid’s actions make any sense is if they don’t expect there to be a 2012 election.

schmuck281 on October 9, 2011 at 9:22 PM

Never, ever, trust a Democrat. If Obama wants to run against a do-nothing Congress and the Democrats are in charge of the Senate, that screws up the whole process. So, throw out the nuclear option and get Republicans mad enough to filibuster everything on the planet and then, voila, you have a do-nothing Senate with Republicans responsible. Does anyone see this as a plan from the Democrats?

If I were the Republicans, I would do everything in my power to force the Democrats to change this, short of filibustering everything. Make sure they read every single solitary bill, make sure they have to have 60 votes and, when they don’t, make sure to point out, to the media, how Reid had changed the rules unilaterally. They have to make sure that it’s always blamed on the Democrats that the votes are what they are because you can be sure that Obama is going to make it the Republicans fault and the LSM is NOT going to tell the truth about this.

bflat879 on October 9, 2011 at 9:33 PM

It’s odd. Reid doesn’t make parliamentary errors.

Count on some long range planning being unleashed.

islestar on October 9, 2011 at 9:34 PM

See… this is where a bast*rd like Reid shows his true colors. I’ve been on committees and even chaired a few where Roberts Rules and Parliamentary Procedure were at least loosely followed.
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On a very rare instance some knucklehead would put personal interest, or ego… above the common good of the whole. Sometimes this acting out would involve manipulating the rules to gain a personally desired outcome, as opposed to allowing the body to honestly determine the best course to follow…
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This was always looked down on by those who understood what was going on. And it was rare because caring about the whole was pretty much primary to getting into any position that had that potential for damage.
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This Reid *sshole seems to always act with self/party interest as his motivation… This latest move is a pretty solid proof that he cares less about the country than he does about his party.
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There can be no reward for this action. Shut his a** down.
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RalphyBoy on October 9, 2011 at 11:16 PM

Never, ever, trust a Democrat. If Obama wants to run against a do-nothing Congress and the Democrats are in charge of the Senate, that screws up the whole process. So, throw out the nuclear option and get Republicans mad enough to filibuster everything on the planet and then, voila, you have a do-nothing Senate with Republicans responsible……
bflat879 on October 9, 2011 at 9:33 PM

It’s odd. Reid doesn’t make parliamentary errors.

Count on some long range planning being unleashed.

islestar on October 9, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Yes, it’s a trap
The question is, what kind?

CrazyGene on October 9, 2011 at 11:50 PM

I’m betting on a McCain/Graham-led “Gang Of __” to ride to the rescue before the end of the month.

Cylor on October 10, 2011 at 3:40 AM

Unintended Consequences

How dare you guy criticize Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky)and expect him to lack guts in the future.

Why, when he makes a remark about being dedicated to defeating the opposite party’s guy in the White House, some certifiable loon who played God in a silly movie thinks it is indicative of a very deep racism in America. And he is given a national pulpit to broadcast his goofy views.

Imagine what some crack pot will do with this?

They are clogging everything up!

What could this mean?

Maybe that the Senate leadership is responsible for all the constipation in the nation?

That woman on the “pressure bloating gas” commercials should be hauled in to help out. Maybe Tim Robbins can handle this one.

IlikedAUH2O on October 10, 2011 at 7:48 AM

I’m all for withholding consent, but I know the Senate Republicans. Candy-a$$es like Orrin Hatch will plead for “comity” and a return to civility in the staid institution of the United States Senate. All the while, Dingy Harry will be spreading limburger cheese on the bottom of the repubs chairs.

Mr. Grump on October 10, 2011 at 8:14 AM

I liked this from the link to The Hill

Dorgan said Thursday’s floor fight is a sign of the collapse of bipartisan cooperation in the Senate.

“It’s another step in the confrontation that exists almost constantly now. Not only is there not agreement on policy, there’s not agreement on the rules,” he said. “It’s another demonstration the system isn’t working at all.”

“Underlying it all, there’s no cooperation on anything,” he added. “How are we going to show American people that we’re working on their problems?”

Speaking mildly, which Dem wrote his script, or does he freelance?.

I doubt Reid did not anticipate the consequences of his action. It shows how important it was to stall a vote on the phoney jobs bill. As long as the vote is stalled by Reid, the MSM will (and has) pick up the cue and report the GOP does not want jobs. Dems have obviously calculated this is a key component of leveraging the election. So they are shocked, surprised, whatever, yada

If they can also go forth and show grave concern that the Senate is in disarray, so much the better.

Not that the GOP isn’t really mad. There is always gaming in the House of Games, AKA the late great Senate, but there is a distinct lack of dignity in Reid, kind of like the goings on in the NYC protests. The community agitators haven’t started swinging from the chandeliers, but soon, brother, soon

The only way to get bipartisanship in this atmosphere is when the loot is being divided

entagor on October 10, 2011 at 9:43 AM

The “MSM” is a left wing tool and has all but lost its credibility. Let them do what they may . . . they fool no one.

rplat on October 9, 2011 at 4:09 PM

The MSM”s lack of credibility won’t be seen by most among john Q pblic unless the hapless and cowardly GOP finally goes on the attack against the agenda drven media and informs the public each and every day that the media is workking against America’s interest because it is but a subservient wing of the Marxist left. It needs to name names, point out the complicity, the TV New anchors and alphabets daily until the masses pick up the mantra. Until then the useful idiot voters will follow whatever lie the media propagates -because it is basically feared by the GOP. Reality and truth will prevail- but only if the good guys are willing to take a few slings and arrows for the nation. Thus far, they prefer to keep their lucrative lifestyles at the expense of the nation -refusing to fight the most blatant lies -relsuting in ever bolder lies. The GOP’s silent aquiecence is the problem -which is why Sarah was the real hope for salvation of our nation.

Don L on October 10, 2011 at 10:24 AM

First, it could make it harder for Democrats to break GOP filibusters because Republicans may be even less willing to close off debate on legislation.

If the minority party can’t offer amendments after cloture, they won’t vote for cloture. Who’d a thunk it?

Welcome to the world’s most wonderful deliberative debilitated institution.

Steve Z on October 10, 2011 at 11:20 AM

They want a Reichstagsbrand so bad they can taste it. Then they can have their Reichstagsbrandverordnung und Ermächtigungsgesetz.

I think I just killed any chance I might have had to be on MNF.

The Monster on October 9, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Please forgive my ignorance, but what is the English translation of those German tongue-twisters?

Steve Z on October 10, 2011 at 11:23 AM

The MSM”s lack of credibility won’t be seen by most among john Q pblic unless the hapless and cowardly GOP finally goes on the attack against the agenda drven media and informs the public each and every day that the media is workking against America’s interest …
The GOP’s silent aquiecence is the problem -which is why Sarah was the real hope for salvation of our nation.
Don L on October 10, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Palin spoke to the public over the heads of the politicians.

Politicians aren’t silent, but they speak to the wrong audience from the wrong context. They look in the camera while they address a newsman or their committee.

Typical statement, “we have to address the deficit’

‘Addressing’ an issue could mean ‘think about’. ‘have a debate’, ‘submit a proposal’, or ‘blow off the voter’

Ten people have ten different ideas what a ‘deficit’ is. Buzzwords like debt, deficit, entitlement never had universal definition, so the audience fills in the blanks. Many pols want that. You can slide a bill through with double talk (campaign finance reform) but it can backfire (reduce entitlement)

Palin grabbed the message with ‘death panels’ because she called it as she saw it, while others double talked. She didn’t need an hour, or a panel discussion to make her point, and it stuck.

Pols do not want to be accountable for their words. As a result, they have no connect with the public, and the media controls the message

I agree silent acquiecence is killing us. Pols are moving their lips but avoiding communication, as if the public doesn’t notice. The public noticed fast when Palin opened her mouth. Ditto Cain

entagor on October 10, 2011 at 11:24 AM

They want a Reichstagsbrand so bad they can taste it. Then they can have their Reichstagsbrandverordnung und Ermächtigungsgesetz.

I think I just killed any chance I might have had to be on MNF.

The Monster on October 9, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Please forgive my ignorance, but what is the English translation of those German tongue-twisters?

Steve Z on October 10, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Reichstagsbrand = Reichstag fire
Reichstagsbrandverordnung = Reichstag Fire Decree
Ermächtigungsgesetz = Enabling Act of 1933

sharrukin on October 10, 2011 at 3:05 PM

Senate GOP to retaliate after Reid maneuver by withholding consent

Right, a better prediction is that by next week the Republicans will be delivering and serving coffee for their across the aisle buddies.

RJL on October 10, 2011 at 4:32 PM

If you want to hate on Mormons, please focus on Harry Reid.

flataffect on October 10, 2011 at 11:02 PM