Herman Cain, the outspoken and effective critic of Occupy Wall Street
posted at 7:50 pm on October 9, 2011 by Tina Korbe
The Occupy Wall Street protests — amorphous and unsanitary — have expanded sufficiently to force national figures to take sides. The left is in a delirium, finding in an incoherent and unfocused movement seeds of “effectiveness” and even “genius.” Meanwhile, Eric Cantor criticizes the mob and Paul Ryan praises the concept of protests, in general.
But from where I sit, one man has emerged — much as he has recently emerged as a presidential contender — as the most effective spokesman against purposeless and petty Days of Rage (well, one man other than David Harsanyi, whose manifesto of OWS demands still remains the best piece on the protests I’ve yet read).
Here’s Herman Cain, saying what needs to be said:
Republican presidential contender Herman Cain amplified his criticism Sunday of the growing Occupy Wall Street movement, calling the protesters “jealous’ Americans who “play the victim card” and want to “take somebody else’s” Cadillac.
Cain’s remarks, on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” came amidst an escalating war of words between Republicans and Democrats over the merits of the movement, which has spread from New York to other cities across the nation, including Washington and Los Angeles. …
But Cain, surging in popularity among many conservatives, seems to have had among the most virulent responses to the protests.
On CBS, Cain suggested that the rallies had been organized by labor unions to serve as a “distraction so that many people won’t focus on the failed policies of the Obama administration.”
Yep, that’s Occupy Wall Street: Jealous kids who’ve fallen prey to the victimitis virus, unwitting (or perhaps intentional) distractions from Obama’s failed economy, a window into what’s to come if the GOP wins in 2012.
Others have said as much before. But Cain’s comments resonate so keenly with me precisely because he — perhaps more than most — has assiduously inoculated himself against the victimized mindset.
“One of the most important lessons Dad taught us was not to feel like victims. He never felt like a victim; he never talked like a victim,” writes Mr. Cain of his youth in the Jim Crow South. “And both of our parents”—his mother worked as a maid and his father was a chauffeur—”taught us not to think that the government owed us something. They didn’t teach us to be mad at this country.” Is it any wonder that Mr. Cain wound up as a conservative Republican?
The Wall Street Journal’s Jason Riley argues persuasively that Cain’s proactive, positive approach to his own life and ambitions extends a post-racial promise unlike any Obama could have offered:
Mr. Cain’s supporters also cite his inspirational life story, his accomplishments as a business executive, his successful battle against cancer. As noteworthy is what they do not harp on, which is his race. Obviously people notice that Mr. Cain is black, but it doesn’t appear to be a factor in his soaring popularity. This is progress.
A significant part of Mr. Obama’s appeal in 2008 was the color of his skin. Supporters were willing to overlook his lack of executive experience and any number of other significant shortcomings in order to elect the first black president. The 2012 contest will tell us whether the country is done patting itself on the back. Let’s hope so, because the Obama presidency to date is nothing if not a harsh lesson in the perils of identity politics. …
Black individuals who don’t see themselves primarily as victims are a threat to the political left, which helps explain why MSNBC commentators have derided Mr. Cain as a token and why Jon Stewart has mocked him in tones that evoke Amos ‘n’ Andy or Stepin Fetchit. To secure political victories, Democrats need blacks to vote for them in unison. Independent thinking cannot be tolerated.
But the promise Cain extends is actually nothing more nor less than the promise America — and life itself — has always made: A promise that personal responsibility — for the most part — pays off. Cain says he is first and foremost the CEO of himself. Riley calls that a little “hokey.” I call it an echo of some of the pithiest wisdom quintessential Americans have passed on from one generation to another, from William Ernest Henley’s “I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul,” to Henry Wadsworth Longfellow’s “Let us, then, be up and doing / With a heart for any fate / Still achieving, still pursuing / Learn to labor and to wait.”
The concept of delayed gratification is not a new one, but it is one we have to perennially fight to make attractive, both to ourselves and to society at large — and in both small and large matters. Cain’s wide smile and refreshing sense of humor — his impressive business success coupled with his evident happiness as a person — make hard work seem appealing and worthwhile. Conversely, the stories of his childhood remind us that a lack of material success need not impede the personal happiness that proceeds from sound character and strong family ties.
What I find so hard to understand is why the Occupy Wall Street protesters don’t actually want what Cain has. They’re jealous, yes, but jealous for all the wrong things. What they want, if they only knew it, is Cain’s optimism and energy, his attitude and work ethic. None of us — Cain included — displays those traits unfailingly. But they’re still a surer bet than seeking government remedies for an ill-defined problem.
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Mitt declared his candidacy for the Presidency back in 2008 when John lost to Barry.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM
I’m not frustrated. I am the lone voice crying in the wilderness that Herman Cain is in the race to sell books, promote his brand, and help Mitt split the conservative vote.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 10:10 PM
For those looking for this ‘leadership’ deal, there you go.
The perfect running-mate for Herman Cain?
Bill Cosby.
Just to see the MFM implode and have a couple of black dads dressing down the Trustafarians… yeah… now that is something I would get some popcorn for.
ajacksonian on October 9, 2011 at 8:08 PM
You want to know who Bill Cosby likes?
(Curiously, Cosby is noncommittal verging on prickly when it comes to Obama. When Larry King asked him whether he supported Obama, he bristled: “Do you ask white people this question? … I want to know why this fellow especially is brought up in such a special way. How many Americans in the media really take him seriously, or do they look at him like some prize brown baby?” The exchange ended with Cosby professing admiration for Dennis Kucinich. Months later, he rebuffed my requests for his views on Obama’s candidacy.)
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/05/-8216-this-is-how-we-lost-to-the-white-man-8217/6774/
ebrown2 on October 9, 2011 at 10:10 PM
You should spend more time promoting your candidate of choice than tearing down those you fear. This is a blog and you might persuade someone with a positive message. Negative ads do best on TV for the low info voter who can’t make up his mind.
txmomof6 on October 9, 2011 at 10:16 PM
Good for him!
Herman Cain…Herman Cain…Herman Cain….
balkanmom on October 9, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Punchenko — get some new material moron.ZZZZZZZZ.
CW on October 9, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Occupy worn tactics
Cain sees right through it
But using words like jealous only feeds the class warfare
I like his outspokenness. But he has to be very careful with his words
audiotom on October 9, 2011 at 10:29 PM
I like Herman Cain just fine. Generally he speaks for me. But as pathetic as the OWS is, they are a harbinger of something much more ugly as Obama ratchets up the class warfare machine. In order to defeat this “mob” we must not let them gain allies or sympathy by ignoring the pony behind the horse manure. An important fact of our current predicament is the collusion by many wealthy capitalist progressives and opportunists with Big Government. Any call for economic liberty and free enterprise must include criticism of the crony capitalism that has infected the American marketplace.
The Tea Party movement opposes corporate welfare and its supporters within both political parties. But especially within the Republican Party since it will be the chief political means to effect an overhaul of American capitalism. Wall Street needs reform as much as Washington. Lives have been ruined because Wall Street caved.
Let’s not give them a pass because we disagree with clueless idiots who have stumbled into the street and are blocking our way.
Randy
williars on October 9, 2011 at 10:30 PM
Hypocrite! You come here and taunt and make fun of everyone who is for Cain, not to mention your obsession with tying Romney and Cain together. You are repetitious and vacuous. You have NO “legitimate” issues–they are regurgitated comments, repeated from Cain thread to Cain thread, and morphed from Palin trolls. You have some of the most “unthoughtful” comments here. But thanks for the laff…
lovingmyUSA on October 9, 2011 at 10:32 PM
lovingmyUSA on October 9, 2011 at 10:37 PM
I don’t much care for his Southern accent, but I love his business background, love the way he stands his ground on issues, and more and more, I’m lovin’ this guy as President.
petefrt on October 9, 2011 at 10:39 PM
It’s not very tough when Cain blows kisses Romney’s way and is more content thumping the race card on Perry than attacking Romney for his liberalism. The fix is in.
Cain doesn’t have a record. How can I get new material if your vacuous candidate doesn’t have a record to show?
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 10:46 PM
petefrt on October 9, 2011 at 10:39 PM
And it helps that he does it with a smile on his face, without the smugness of you know who.
txmomof6 on October 9, 2011 at 10:47 PM
The conspiracy minded tonight are asserting inside knowledge that Herman Cain is a trick out to promote Romney.
Pardon me, but that is brain dead stupid.
Herman is 100% a real man, and what you see is what you get.
Herman believes in himself and he can communicate the way a great leader does.
I have known the man for 6 years, including the dark days of his terminal cancer diagnosis.
We got him to seek a second opinion at a little known place to most Atlantans, called M D Anderson in Houston, Texas.
The rest is history.
Herman is a very smart man who gets the facts, decides what his goals are, and goes for them with a focus that most men don’t have.
jimw on October 9, 2011 at 10:48 PM
Sarah Palin was actually *elected* to public office. She also actually *took on* the establishment. Cain was more interested in joining the establishment until GA voters gave told him NO.
Beating up on SP is no longer cute, BTW. She’s out now.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 10:49 PM
Could it be that Herman Cain is going to be a force that brings back honesty into our way of speaking and dealing with problems and each other? If that’s all that he accomplishes it’ll be a good thing. We can only hope.
princetrumpet on October 9, 2011 at 10:50 PM
Are you one of the thirty or forty paid staffers?
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 10:50 PM
It’s reality. Cain has neither the money nor the organization. If Cain ends up getting the nomination I will issue a groveling apology to everyone and will line up to support him. If not, and he endorses Romney, there will be a lot of gloating.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 10:53 PM
Whatever the Perry, or it it Ron Paul, people are paying you–they aren’t getting their money’s worth…or else they have lowered their standards of trolls…
lovingmyUSA on October 9, 2011 at 10:55 PM
Punchenko…No, I am a friend of Herman’s. And I am a white southerner who has overcome my parents segregation enforcing brand of hate for successful black men.
With Herman there are no black and white differences. We are friends.
jimw on October 9, 2011 at 10:58 PM
But, but, I thought that was Bachmann’s role? That ole Romney, he sure gets around…
lovingmyUSA on October 9, 2011 at 10:59 PM
Thanks for your “concern”..
lovingmyUSA on October 9, 2011 at 11:02 PM
I asked if you were a paid staffer, Jim:
What was the point in mentioning your parents’ racial prejudice, Jim? Will you be calling Rick Perry a racist next, because that seems to be SOP with the Cain Crowd as of late?
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 11:03 PM
Delighted to be of service. :-)
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 11:04 PM
And if Herman loses..who else will there be for him to give an endorsement to…???
lovingmyUSA on October 9, 2011 at 11:05 PM
He’ll endorse Romney. But if he endorses Newt I will also issue a full groveling apology.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 11:06 PM
Prove it.
lovingmyUSA on October 9, 2011 at 11:06 PM
Your fear is stinking up the place, your childish remarks are old and boring
You have now reached troll status.
Knucklehead on October 9, 2011 at 11:07 PM
Because I am passionate about not handing the nomination to a newbie I am now a “troll”? Now that is childish.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 11:11 PM
There was a poster who goes by “Chudi” who was waxing eloquent about Perry’s “racist rock”. On and on he went about Rick Perry’s “racist rock” and what a racist that Rick Perry was b/c of leasing the place to hunt.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 11:13 PM
But I called him a troll first…*stamps foot. But you said it better. His fear, as his hero tanks further and further down the line, is…sweet.
lovingmyUSA on October 9, 2011 at 11:13 PM
You are not passionate, and you sure aren’t changing any opinions with your insults and your copy and paste talking points.
That makes you a an official HA troll. Take your passion elsewhere.
Knucklehead on October 9, 2011 at 11:16 PM
“A poster”???? That is what you use for your evidence of
Really???
lovingmyUSA on October 9, 2011 at 11:17 PM
Puchenko…I am telling you the straight truth, which seems to be totally unbelievable to you.
I am glad to be your entertainment tonight.
In trial work we sometimes just tell the truth just to shake up the opposition. It drives them nuts trying to figure it out.
I am not paid by Herman Cain or his campaign.
My real self interest is against Herman becomung President since that will wreck my ability to use the streets around here when he comes home with Secret Service rolling blockades.
Fear not.
jimw on October 9, 2011 at 11:18 PM
Yes, I do have a legitimate fear of Mitt Romney becoming our nominee and Obama soundly beating him the GE. I hope many share my fear.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 11:18 PM
Cheap shot, low blow, even for you.
Knucklehead on October 9, 2011 at 11:20 PM
Really…
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 11:20 PM
I thought I was going to throw up from all the gushing!
In any event, if Cain becomes president he’ll run the country like he ran his businesses: 5% of the employees making 90% of the profit and the rest on minimum wage with no benefits, the exact trend that caused these protests (and the destruction of the middle class) in the first place. The fact that Tina seems to so adamantly support such a thoughtless and stupid ideology really speaks volumes about the state of the right in general. Although, I really credit it more to the authors lack of real-world experience outside of college/D.C.
Rainsford on October 9, 2011 at 11:21 PM
My son just joined the Boy Scouts and I’ve been reading the handbook and am very impressed. One thing that has impressed me, is that in the “leadership” section, they include “self-leadership.” Bingo. Nothing like 100 years of institutional memory.
smellthecoffee on October 9, 2011 at 11:24 PM
Here’s a short observation on the OWS loons.
I think there is a direct correlation between the numbers of these crazy thinking loons and easy access through the rapidly multiplying “medicinal” pot outlets throughout the country.
Drugs, especially marijuana, fueled the 1960′s protest Hippies.
I know first hand how pot changes the way people think and behave. It makes you always think there’s some kind of nefarious plot, scheme or conspiracy that somehow is responsible for all of your shortcomings and that essentially describes these OWS loons to a “t”.
OxyCon on October 9, 2011 at 11:24 PM
There is nothing cheap in speaking the truth, KH, even if the sound of it causes you to explode in self-righteous indignation.
Posters “Andy” and another named “Chudi” have been shamelessly using the race card in their pathetic attempts to shut up some of us who think Cain is not ready to become President. Unfortunately for them — and you — bullying doesn’t deter me.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 11:24 PM
Pssh. There’s your troll, KH. ^^^^
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 11:26 PM
After only a few days…I’m already growing tired of your meme…
blah blah blah
katy on October 9, 2011 at 11:37 PM
OK.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 11:43 PM
Maybe if we ignore it, it will go away.
Knucklehead on October 9, 2011 at 11:47 PM
You mean “ignore her/him” not “it”. There is no need to dehumanize me, Knucklehead, just because I think Cain is not experienced enough to become President.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 11:51 PM
As long as its M.O.org checks keep coming in, we’re stuck with it…
katy on October 9, 2011 at 11:52 PM
Whatever they’re paying it, they’re getting ripped off. Must be a second stringer.
Knucklehead on October 9, 2011 at 11:55 PM
Cain is a former KC Federal Reserve Chairman. Of course he’s going to be a critic of protests against his banker buddies.
popularpeoplesfront on October 9, 2011 at 9:59 PM
Lemme guess-now you’re gonna tell us that his ‘banker buddies’ just happened to be Jewish.
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annoyinglittletwerp on October 9, 2011 at 11:56 PM
Btw:
It’s still Perry, Newt, Cain for me.
Unless Perry drops out that order isn’t likely to change.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 9, 2011 at 11:58 PM
Where do new posters come from?
I never see a open registration notice or such and I was wondering. You never hear from people and then all of the sudden they just start posting like they’ve been here forever.
Just curious.
Earlier someone brought up Romney and why Cain doesn’t criticize him the same way that Cain does Perry. That’s a good point.
Is the fix really in for Romney? Because if so his 5 years of campaigning and his gazillion dollars he’s spent have gotten him where?
PappyD61 on October 10, 2011 at 12:02 AM
Don’t try to discredit the messenger since you cannot discredit the message. Herman Cain is not ready to be President. If anything he will fade, drop out, and then proceed to endorse Romney. He might be on the ticket if his star rises high enough; but in the meantime he is only sucking the oxygen away from those candidates who could beat Romney for the nomination.
Punchenko on October 10, 2011 at 12:06 AM
That’s being very very generous KH…
katy on October 10, 2011 at 12:08 AM
You haven’t given us a reason not to…
katy on October 10, 2011 at 12:10 AM
He gets to be captain of the Titanic on the night of April 14th, 1912.
sharrukin on October 10, 2011 at 12:12 AM
You’re right, I was being generous. Maybe bottom of the barrel? That “stuff” that settles to the bottom of your aquarium under the rocks?
Whatever it is, it needs an umbrella so the ants don’t piss on it.
Knucklehead on October 10, 2011 at 12:13 AM
LOL. Now that’s what I’m talkin’ about!
katy on October 10, 2011 at 12:18 AM
It gets him Bill Bennett to wag the finger and say, “You did Rick Perry no good, sir, in what you had to say” in reference to what Rick Perry’s pastor said about his own personal beliefs concerning Mormonism — not Rick Perry’s own personal views.
Punchenko on October 10, 2011 at 12:19 AM
Yah…das right…
katy on October 10, 2011 at 12:27 AM
I don’t know. Some are fine, others have been second string dickheads waiting for ones like narutoboy and theracecard to get banned and then the new ones pull a turtle head.
arnold ziffel on October 10, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Herman Cain’s Campaign Soars as Republican Voters Hunt for Someone to Love
Knucklehead on October 10, 2011 at 12:33 AM
I have the courage to post my opinion and stand by it unfettered by your and Katy’s name calling. What you are saying about me is petty, mean spirited, and demonstrates your lack of interest in convincing me how Cain is ready to become President when he has:
1.) No experience in government. And…
2.) Never delivers a jab at Romney, who happens to be the true front runner in this race.
Punchenko on October 10, 2011 at 12:34 AM
Actually Cain does have a record, and a rather impressive one at that. In fact one could easily argue it is more impressive than Palin’s.
What he doesn’t have is a record as a professional politician. I
m betting that he has enough native intelligence and responsible experience to overcome that handicap.
We shall see….
Dreadnought on October 10, 2011 at 12:37 AM
Nonsense.
http://www.parkromney.com/?view=economy&sid=1317825477alt
Dreadnought on October 10, 2011 at 12:40 AM
Yah….whoa…courage Punky..Raw courage…
You know you’re your a paid shill for the pinko blogs…now admitting that is serious courage!
I”l respect you in the morning if you come clean tonight Brewster…
katy on October 10, 2011 at 12:52 AM
Nice! There goes that “Cain is a stalking horse for Romney” meme right out the window.
This one seems to be forgotten too…..
Cain Goes After Romney Tax Plan: ‘That Dog Won’t Hunt’
Knucklehead on October 10, 2011 at 12:53 AM
Seriously. Labeling Mitt Romney as “too Wall Street” is more a term of endearment than an insult on our side of the aisle — especially with all of this OWS rubbish sprouting up.
Come on, once Cain takes off the kid gloves I’ll be convinced. Maybe he’ll land a blow at the debate this Tuesday. We’ll see.
Punchenko on October 10, 2011 at 12:56 AM
Kid gloves.
Wishful thinking… How about just wishful.
Punchenko on October 10, 2011 at 12:59 AM
I’m still hoping the first Black-American president will be a Conservative-Republican… AND the first woman, AND the first Muslim… Go Herman Cain…! You are the one for whom we have been waiting.
Rugged Individual on October 10, 2011 at 1:08 AM
lol knucklehead yes i noticed that Punchenko has been busy , getting paid to damn cain lol good jon posting his postings
ColdWarrior57 on October 10, 2011 at 1:15 AM
The more I read about Cain, and more importantly, the more I hear Cain, the more I like Cain. We need a leader, not another lifetime politician. Frankly I think this country can’t take one more professional politician, all these professional politicians will keep us on the same road to destruction, it’s all a matter of how heavy they are on the gas pedal, and whether they ride the brakes a bit for show or not. We need a leader. Screw the professional politicians. I’m raisin’ Cain for Cain.
flyfishingdad on October 10, 2011 at 1:32 AM
Actually, Gary Johnson was the first candidate to declare. He has the best limited government credentials of any candidate, it’s too bad he’s not taken seriously by the GOP. Our loss.
Herman Cain is a great guy, but we don’t need yet another newbie in the White House. He clearly doesn’t know anything about foreign policy, his 999 plan just adds yet another layer of taxes, and his digs at Rick Perry show an undesirable side.
Common Sense on October 10, 2011 at 1:46 AM
I’m still hoping the first Black-American president will be a Conservative-Republican… AND the first woman, AND the first Muslim… Go Herman Cain…! You are the one for whom we have been waiting.
Rugged Individual on October 10, 2011 at 1:08 AM
I hope you’re being sarcastic-otherwise this is the Palin cult all over again.
I like Cain-but his relentless-and I think wrong-headed attacks on Perry pretty much mean that he’ll stay my 3rd choice.
The GOP does itself NO favors by its visceral need for a messiah to save it.Sorry to disappoint y’all-but the messiah ain’t running for office.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 10, 2011 at 1:55 AM
Cain on at least two recent TV shows, when asked to give a brief impression of his competition: Romney — good hair, Perry — good governor.
Not that good hair is unimportant. I used to have some…
fred5678 on October 10, 2011 at 2:14 AM
The search for the Republican Obama has grown tiresome. I didn’t care for Perry at first but have since come around after seeing him connect with people. He’s been a good governor, actually thinks about the issues, and served in the Air Force which is always a plus in my book. He has the experience and the bravado to become the next President and they (Bachmann, Romney, Santorum, and now Cain) all know it which is why they’re piling on him.
Sigh.
Punchenko on October 10, 2011 at 2:30 AM
And if those two items are resolved, than you will vote for Cain?
right2bright on October 10, 2011 at 2:32 AM
He has…he has criticized Romney’s tax plan…so now you are a supporter of Cain? That was easy…
right2bright on October 10, 2011 at 2:33 AM
Punchenko on October 10, 2011 at 2:30 AM
I like Cain-but when I see a personality cult starting to rise around an individual-that says to me that I should look elsewhere.
As I said-for me it’s Perry, Newt(though that statement about ignoring a SCOTUS ruling he doesn’t like is giving me pause)-and Cain.
He’s not likely to move up-but if his new found best buds get too squirrelly…he might nove down.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 10, 2011 at 2:39 AM
Very interesting. Please give Mr. Cain our best wishes and tell him many people are praying for him.
Elisa on October 10, 2011 at 2:50 AM
So you don’t vote for popular candidates…okay…I would think to win you are going to have to have rabid supporters that believe in you 100%.
Perry certainly has those…that kind of leaves you without a candidate, until you find someone that is not so liked, and doesn’t have loyal followers…try Huntsman, he seems not to have anyone supporting him…
right2bright on October 10, 2011 at 2:52 AM
So you don’t vote for popular candidates…okay…I would think to win you are going to have to have rabid supporters that believe in you 100%.
Perry certainly has those…that kind of leaves you without a candidate, until you find someone that is not so liked, and doesn’t have loyal followers…try Huntsman, he seems not to have anyone supporting him…
right2bright on October 10, 2011 at 2:52 AM
I live in West Texas. Perry is popular here-but there’s no Perry cult. We know all to well that our governor ain’t perfect. He needs to nail this next debate.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 10, 2011 at 3:05 AM
right2bright on October 10, 2011 at 2:52 AM
I have no problem with popular-but when I hear someone say of a candidate ‘He’s the one we’ve been waiting for’-that’s not popular-that cultic.
I’m marginally Jewish. When the messiah comes-he won’t be running for office.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 10, 2011 at 3:08 AM
Your proof there fails.
Chudi of the racist rock is hardcore Romney supporter, not Cain supporter.
You’re quite thoroughly punched out. Hang up ‘yer gloves.
Jason Coleman on October 10, 2011 at 3:12 AM
Viola.
Punchenko on October 10, 2011 at 7:38 AM
Sure, I like what Cain has to say and it is very refreshing to see him take on the likes of Bob and Crazy Larry. If Cain had experience as a Senator or a Governor — and a record to boot — I would most certainly be in his camp right now.
With that said, Cain doesn’t have a record, he never held elected office, and he was trounced in a GA Senate primary race. Why he was trounced in GA is beyond me — but it certainly wasn’t because he wasn’t sufficiently conservative enough. I don’t believe managing a company is preparation enough to lead the country as our CinC, Head of State, head of our party, and our number one advocate in making the policy changes needed to get the country back on track and believing in itself again.
The cult-like fanaticism is a real turn off. Cain throws out a few hunks of great red meat, has a Clinton-era soundbite, and now everyone is ready to place the crown on his head because he isn’t Romney and never held an elected office. The GOP primary electorate — with the exception of a few of us — is starting to look like the college kids and the media that fell in love with Obama in ’08 despite his lack of substance/record.
Punchenko on October 10, 2011 at 8:00 AM
Are you happy, Citizen? Happiness is mandatory.
Wolftech on October 10, 2011 at 8:09 AM
Actually, I called it a troll first when it first reared its head and spouted its nonsense on other threads :)
Is it just me, or has the quality of troll really gone downhill? Makes me miss some of those that have been banned. Now its just like they aren’t even trying anymore. At least with some of them you could have an intelligent conversation without them reverting to straw man arguments and logical fallacies for every single post. Heck, even Spathi can string together a better and more researched argument than Puke can and he is a Paulite.
Wolftech on October 10, 2011 at 8:28 AM
Now, that is just sour grapes b/c Mitt has never been able to get any excitement by anyone, not even his family, at his candidacy. Yes, people are going a little overboard for Cain right now, that always happens when someone knew and interesting busts on the scene. It will die down and people will look harder. I think it is unfair to say that Cain lacks experience or substance.
Regardless, I would support anyone as the nominee except Mitt. I don’t believe Mitt is anything but a deal-maker who will go wherever the deal takes him, even if it is far to the left. I trust him not at all. I honestly believe that electing Mitt would be worse long-term for America than a 2nd term of Obama. That is b/c Mitt would end up following most of the same failed policies of Obama, would not repeal Obamacare (despite his assertions to the contrary) and will give the current liberal policies failures a bi-partisan flavor, allowing liberalism to again gain majorities in both houses and the presidency in the near future. I would prefer the author of these policies (Obama) remain in place to take the blame than allow Mitt to give liberalism cover. Yes, Yes, I know, none of this is true – read Mitt’s manifesto. Of course, it contradicts everything Mitt has claimed before and done before. So, was he lying then, or is he lying now? As he passed – happily – Romneycare, it is pretty clear that he is lying now.
Monkeytoe on October 10, 2011 at 8:30 AM
Attacking me doesn’t explain away Cain’s deficiencies as a potential GOP nominee ready to be President on day one, Wolftech. Nice try, though.
I don’t have “sour grapes” over Romney’s inability to inspire people. I am not a supporter of Mitt Romney.
Punchenko on October 10, 2011 at 9:12 AM
Are you fiddlin’ somewhere between a cello and a violin?
Or are you trying to say “here it is” in French?
Steve Z on October 10, 2011 at 10:07 AM
The cult-like fanaticism is a real turn off. Cain throws out a few hunks of great red meat, has a Clinton-era soundbite, and now everyone is ready to place the crown on his head because he isn’t Romney and never held an elected office. The GOP primary electorate — with the exception of a few of us — is starting to look like the college kids and the media that fell in love with Obama in ’08 despite his lack of substance/record.
Punchenko on October 10, 2011 at 8:00 AM
I agree. It bothers me that you’re being called a ‘troll’. I guess the new definition of ‘troll’ is anyone who doesn’t support the conservative masses newest anointed one.
If that’s the case…then I’m a troll too.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 10, 2011 at 11:32 AM
Exactly. . . my stringed instrument aficionado. Chudi is a Romney supporter.
I like Perry, I like Romney, I even like Bachmann and Santorum and Newt and Johnson.
But I’m a Cain supporter.
See how that works, we can still like other candidates even if we have one that we support.
We don’t have to viscerally hate everyone who’s not our first choice for POTUS.
Unfortunately, many of the folks her don’t understand that. Punchy boy seems to be one of those.
Jason Coleman on October 10, 2011 at 12:10 PM
I see what you did there. Good point. Everyone should vet the candidates and when the candidate wins the nominations support him against Obama.
txmomof6 on October 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM
ROFLMAO
I’m not frustrated. I am the lone voice crying in the wilderness that Herman Cain is in the race to sell books, promote his brand, and help Mitt split the conservative vote.
Punchenko on October 9, 2011 at 10:10 PM
Noun 1. delusions of grandeur – a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
delusion, psychotic belief – (psychology) an erroneous belief that is held in the face of evidence to the contrary
megalomania – a psychological state characterized by delusions of grandeur
ROFLMAO!!! Enough said, have a good time there punchdrunk.
ColdWarrior57 on October 10, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Grab a box of tissues and move a little deeper into the wilderness. What better way for people to learn about a candidate, than a book? Romney wrote a book. Perry wrote a book. Both have plugged their books during debates. That’s capitalism at it’s finest. I’m a capitalist. I’m not a “share the wealth” kind of guy. I like Herman Cain’s “brand” of conservatism. It speaks to overcoming odds and personal responsibility. It’s refreshing and sorely lacking in our country today.
Gems of wisdom.
BruthaMan on October 10, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Effective? Did the protests stop or are they spreading?
Y-not on October 10, 2011 at 4:05 PM
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