Mark Steyn: Why the lack of MSM outrage at “dead Mexicans”?

posted at 1:25 pm on October 7, 2011 by Tina Korbe

As I wrote yesterday, Fast and Furious should have been uppermost in the minds of every reporter at the president’s press conference — yet most of the journalists in the room gave BHO a bye. Today on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show, columnist Mark Steyn memorably took the mainstream media to task for its lack of interest in the scandal, which has resulted in the murder of at least 200 people in Mexico and at least 11 violent crimes in the United States:

“Now real Mexicans are dead,” [Steyn said]. “Does the president of the United States, does his attorney general, does CNN, does The New York Times, does NPR — do they not care about dead Mexicans?

“I mean, forget the United States Border Patrol guys that were killed with these ‘Fast & Furious’ guns. Real-live, or previously live, citizens of third world countries — the kind of people that NPR, The New York Times claim to love — are dead because of this.”

“Why isn’t that a national scandal?” he pleaded. “This is absolutely a — Iran-Contra didn’t rack up that kind of body count. Watergate didn’t rack up a body count. Sarah Palin’s daughter’s boyfriend’s mother, or whatever stupid story they were chasing around Wasilla for months, that didn’t rack up a body count. There were hundreds of dead Mexicans from a gun running program run by the United States.”

The rate of revelation regarding Fast and Furious has been steady (and steadily serious), but Steyn’s right: That’s no thanks to either the Justice Department, which has resisted Congressional inquiry into the matter, or the mainstream media, which has studiously avoided the subject with just a few exceptions. Must be because MSM news outlets are so “reasonable.” What we know about F&F, then, is a testament to the conviction and persistence of Congressional lead investigators Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif) and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), to the conservative media (even though the DOJ has consistently refused document requests from our sister site Townhall.com, as well as CNSNews.com and other conservative sites) and to CBS reporter Sharyl Attkisson. Watching this news unfold has at times seemed like a horror show — when I first heard the death count in Mexico, for example — and at other times has seemed like a hopeful reminder that “the truth will out.” Stories like this just can’t lie dormant forever — and, in the end, the MSM ignores the news at its own peril. As more and more media consumers recognize which news outlets deliver relevant information and which news outlets don’t, those that ignore truly newsworthy events or feign objectivity as a thin disguise for agenda advancement will become less and less, well, mainstream.


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Real Mexican: Promotes Democratic Party ideals.

Fake Mexican: Doesn’t promote Democratic Party ideals.

ButterflyDragon on October 7, 2011 at 2:41 PM

Just ask Larry O’Donnell.
He knows him some ‘authentic’ folk !!

pambi on October 7, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Face it, many, many people of all political stripes in America view Mexicans as dirty, filthy subhumans, and couldn’t care less if they are murdered with the help of the United States government.

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 2:42 PM

The logical fallacies are flying today.

mankai on October 7, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Sheryl says:

As we reported on the Early Show, a CBS News Investigation has uncovered allegations of “gunwalking” in ten cities and five states, some of them dating back as far as 2006, under Bush Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

This is the last paragraph in her latest release. My guess is, it got edited-in for her.

What the statement fails to do is mention how many dead people resulted from the operations dating back as far as 2006. If there was as few as 1, THAT would be the lead story for weeks.

BobMbx on October 7, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Next, you’re going to deny Steyn used the term “real Mexicans,” I suppose.

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 2:49 PM

You need to go to the link and read his “real Mexicans” quote in context. Here is the rest:

“I mean, forget the United States Border Patrol guys that were killed about these ‘Fast & Furious’ guns. Real-live, or previously live, citizens of third world countries — the kind of people that NPR, The New York Times claim to love — are dead because of this.”

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2011 at 3:02 PM

mankai on October 7, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Which ones?

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Face it, many, many people of all political stripes in America view Mexicans as dirty, filthy subhumans, and couldn’t care less if they are murdered with the help of the United States government.

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 2:42 PM

If Michelle Malkin were still the boss…

… that statement would have gotten you banned.

Nice projection…

… Thanks for the insight.

Seven Percent Solution on October 7, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Really Del? Why do I need to go to the link, when I got that from the first paragraph in excerpt above, and you got the rest…from the second paragraph in the excerpt, again, above?

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Many in this media are perfectly happy to allow the quiet murder of many people to prevent any blemish on their political belief.

Freddy on October 7, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Seven Percent Solution on October 7, 2011 at 3:08 PM

I trust the people who run this site will take your complaints into consideration. Michelle left HA in good hands.

My point is that F&F facts can be laid bare for all to see, but I doubt it will make much difference, in the end. Kudos to Sharyl Atkisson and others, including Steyn, who are trying to keep this on the radar.

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 3:13 PM

Really Del? Why do I need to go to the link, when I got that from the first paragraph in excerpt above, and you got the rest…from the second paragraph in the excerpt, again, above?

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Reading the whole article might get you half way to understanding that Steyn writes in a biting, sarcastic style. What Steyn is pointing out, in his own awesome Steyn way, is that leftists are ignoring the things they supposedly care about.

NotCoach on October 7, 2011 at 3:14 PM

NotCoach on October 7, 2011 at 3:14 PM

I’ve known that about Steyn for years, now. As for your second point, spot on.

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 3:16 PM

I guess you didn’t visit and read the link. Her appearance on Bill O’Reilly certainly has nothing to do with her continuing to dig, gather, report, and disseminate for CBS. She can visit whomever she cares to. She was building a good deal of momentum and doing an effective job of cutting through the fat and getting to the meat before she was reined in by her boss(es).

But if you prefer ‘all but silenced‘ then, okay. Whatever suits you.

FlatFoot on October 7, 2011 at 2:45 PM

How do you know exactly that’s she being “all but silenced”? Are you a CBS insider? If you had said that some people at CBS would like to stifle her, I’d have agreed with you. But the organization as a whole? Whatever suits you…

CBS isn’t going to let itself relive the era of Dan Rather’s reign. It can’t afford to in more ways than one, one of those reasons being that she is on a path to a Pulitzer, and CBS doesn’t want to be seen as interfering with a reporter doing her job as well as SA is right now.

You believe I’m wrong about her “silencing”. Wanna make a bet with me about which of us is right, the loser forced to eat a hat here a la JetBoy? :)

Bizarro No. 1 on October 7, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Mark Steyn ROCKS.

I like all of Rush’s fill-in hosts, but Mark Steyn is the best.

listens2glenn on October 7, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Bizarro No. 1 on October 7, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Reports are coming out that attempts to contact her are being blocked by CBS. It’s a logical question to ask if they’re trying to silence her, given their proven bias and the subject matter.

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 3:21 PM

Obviously CNN is racist…against Mexicans.

jediwebdude on October 7, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Reports are coming out that attempts to contact her are being blocked by CBS. It’s a logical question to ask if they’re trying to silence her, given their proven bias and the subject matter.

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 3:21 PM

I don’t deny this at all. I’m saying that the present attempt(s) to shelter her from the public does not equate to CBS, the organization itself, is trying to shut her up, and her investigation down – it’s not possible.

Obviously, I’m confident I’m right about this! If I’m wrong, well…you come back and remind me, if you want to. :)

Bizarro No. 1 on October 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM

If Michelle Malkin were still the boss…

… that statement would have gotten you banned.

Seven Percent Solution on October 7, 2011 at 3:08 PM

I’ve been off the internet for a year (personal economics), and it sure does seem to me a LOT more is being ‘gotten away with’ now than would have been allowed a year ago.

I also agree that was ‘projection.’

listens2glenn on October 7, 2011 at 3:38 PM

It appears that this story too will die a slow death. Obozo is the only one who can authorize special counsel to investigate our most corrupt AG, and he’s refusing to do so. In the end, Obozo can do just about anything he wants…

stacman on October 7, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Some of us were on to this story from the very first denials, and then the preposterous “sting gone bad” cover story. (The latter still being repeated by the Obama administration’s lackeys and ignoramuses in the media.)

Some of us remained confident the bloody mess and the stinking coverup were eventually going to unravel and kept on beating the drums until the story finally started getting some exposure. HA was pretty late to the story too, but better late than never.

And, as some of us have said from the beginning, the blood trail leads straight to the Oval Office. As Holder’s perjury becomes more and more obvious, and as more and more media outlets are dragged, kicking and screaming and excusing and equivocating, the pressure continues to build.

Someone is going to flip and squeal. How many know the full extent of the involvement of Napolitano, Holder, and Obama? How many know. at the very least, that Obama knew and authorized gunwalking? Will they all fall on their swords to protect Dear Leader?

novaculus on October 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Maybe F&F was intended to increase illegal immigration to the U.S. by making Mexico even more dangerous.

An uptick in new “undocumented workers” would be seen as a new pool of Democrat voters, after all.

hawksruleva on October 7, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Mark Steyn ROCKS.

I like all of Rush’s fill-in hosts, but Mark Steyn is the best.

listens2glenn on October 7, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Heartily agreed.
Too bad Rush is there most of the time.

itsnotaboutme on October 7, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Really Del? Why do I need to go to the link, when I got that from the first paragraph in excerpt above, and you got the rest…from the second paragraph in the excerpt, again, above?

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Drink some more Coffee.

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Face it, many, many people of all political stripes in America view Mexicans as dirty, filthy subhumans, and couldn’t care less if they are murdered with the help of the United States government.

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 2:42 PM

You may think that way, but I’ll thank you to stop projecting your your own psychosis on everyone else.

Midas on October 7, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Reports are coming out that attempts to contact her are being blocked by CBS. It’s a logical question to ask if they’re trying to silence her, given their proven bias and the subject matter.

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 3:21 PM

Reports? Actually, it was one single report-in The Weekly Standard, which has now taken down their story about her “being blocked”.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbs-news-silencing-fast-and-furious-reporter-due-white-house-pressure_595068.html

And in that story, which is still Google-cached, it was anecdotal evidence from the guy who wrote the story. He also said he had talked to someone else (un-named) who had also tried to book her for an interview.

Given her appearance last night on O’Really, it’s not surprising that The Weekly Standard has now taken down their original story.

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2011 at 4:22 PM

While we’re at it, where is the outrage at the starving Mexicans? There were food riots when the tortilla prices went up as a result of our corn-based ethanol programs. Can you say “Al Gore” (the obese)?

scrubjay on October 7, 2011 at 4:23 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Thanks for the update, Del.

Christien on October 7, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Liberals would use the race card on this issue were the parties reversed.

scotash on October 7, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Face it. Mexicans are dead because the Obama Administration cared more about the dilution of the Second Amendment than the lives of those Brown Peoples.

Now, if you want other statistics that prove that Libs really don’t care about life, let’s take a look at some recent abortion stats . . .

BigAlSouth on October 7, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Sheryl says:

As we reported on the Early Show, a CBS News Investigation has uncovered allegations of “gunwalking” in ten cities and five states, some of them dating back as far as 2006, under Bush Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
This is the last paragraph in her latest release. My guess is, it got edited-in for her.

What the statement fails to do is mention how many dead people resulted from the operations dating back as far as 2006. If there was as few as 1, THAT would be the lead story for weeks.

BobMbx on October 7, 2011 at 2:59 PM

This is how it will be spun, and this is how it will disappear and no one will endure any consequences…

Midas on October 7, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Liberals cannot commit crimes. Even if they were “technically” crimes, the crimes would have committed along the way to obtaining a higher good, so they really aren’t crimes at all.

ClanDerson on October 7, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Liberals cannot commit crimes. Even if they were “technically” crimes, the crimes would have committed along the way to obtaining a higher good, so they really aren’t crimes at all.

ClanDerson on October 7, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Yep, Clinton committing Felony Perjury before a Federal Grand Jury wasn’t a crime, even though his own Justice Department had previously and successfully prosecuted a female Federal employee for doing the exact same thing!

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Lefty Protest 101 – “Dead peoples is good leverage.”

People only matter to the left if they are useful to further lefty political aims.

29Victor on October 7, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Why the lack of MSM outrage at “dead Mexicans”?

They can’t vote.

Knucklehead on October 7, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Dead people have been a solid Democrat voting block for decades.

scotash on October 7, 2011 at 4:42 PM

Face it. Mexicans are dead because the Obama Administration cared more about the dilution of the Second Amendment than the lives of those Brown Peoples.

Now, if you want other statistics that prove that Libs really don’t care about life, let’s take a look at some recent abortion stats . . .

BigAlSouth on October 7, 2011 at 4:30 PM

In order to confiscate our liberty, they had to take someone else’s life. They are violating our rights and the rights of others.

ted c on October 7, 2011 at 4:42 PM

Mark Steyn ROCKS.

I like all of Rush’s fill-in hosts, but Mark Steyn is the best.

listens2glenn on October 7, 2011 at 3:20 PM

The first time I heard Steyn promoting his “Uyghur Wednesdays” (that’s pronounced “wee-ger”) on Rush’s show as a fill-in host, I almost drove off the road from laughing so hard.

Steyn’s sarcastic style isn’t just to be a smart ass. It’s fact based and clever which is why I personally enjoy it so much.

Renwaa on October 7, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Seven Percent Solution on October 7, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Relax, he didn’t say HE thinks they are all these things. Only that a certain segment of the population does which I happen to disagree with but still understand what he meant.

jawkneemusic on October 7, 2011 at 4:53 PM

You may think that way, but I’ll thank you to stop projecting your your own psychosis on everyone else.
Midas on October 7, 2011 at 4:22 PM

How is he projecting? You don’t know this person personally. I don’t agree with what he said but c’mon! He was only stating an opinion.

jawkneemusic on October 7, 2011 at 4:55 PM

jawkneemusic on October 7, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Well, golly, we have people getting perforated by assault weapons.

Our law enforcement apparatus seems to have something to do with handing the weapons to killers. Known killers.

It is blithely being ignored but many strange precincts.

Maybe it shows an uncaring attitude toward 200 or so dead people?

Imagine if we sprayed Wall Street and got 200 or so protesters. Or just about any other group.

I don’t agree with those guys since I think pols will sell out anyone in the name of their own interests.

And we did have a US Law Enforcement hero fall. May flights of angels at attention escort him to heaven.

IlikedAUH2O on October 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM

Mark Steyn ROCKS.

I like all of Rush’s fill-in hosts, but Mark Steyn is the best.

listens2glenn on October 7, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Heartily agreed.
Too bad Rush is there most of the time.

itsnotaboutme on October 7, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Rush said today he’s taking Columbus Day off for the first time ever this year, and Mark will be sitting in.

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2011 at 5:15 PM

The first time I heard Steyn promoting his “Uyghur Wednesdays” (that’s pronounced “wee-ger”) on Rush’s show as a fill-in host, I almost drove off the road from laughing so hard.

Steyn’s sarcastic style isn’t just to be a smart ass. It’s fact based and clever which is why I personally enjoy it so much.

Renwaa on October 7, 2011 at 4:47 PM

That was brilliant! I have such a crush on Mark Steyn….

piglet on October 7, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Did you just hear about the friday night document dump?

Bambi on October 7, 2011 at 5:39 PM

All these people died after a criminal program run by the DOJ named after a video game no
less?

Provide powerful firearms to hardened thugs?

What did they expect?

Holder is personally responsible as an assessory to murder.

And Obama supports this creep.

And if Obama knew?

The former goes to prison and the latter gets impeached at the least.

I am sick and tired of the Obama regime harming our reputation.

Destroying the economy too. And the list of transgressions against the rule of law grows longer than Scrooge’s chain: link by link.

Down with the Obama Regime!!!

Sherman1864 on October 7, 2011 at 5:53 PM

I have been saying for quite a while that until the MSN gets behind the 200 Mexican lives have been Tragically Cut Short angle of the story it will go nowhere.

We need a display set up in front of the White House with little 200 Mexican Flags and 1 American Flag with votive candles and flowers in front of them and distraught family and friends holding vigil to get people’s attention. Humanize the story. Most people probably assume that it was 200 drug dealers that killed each other off. They would be fine with that. But 200 civilians. Well that it a whole different story.

Lily on October 7, 2011 at 5:55 PM

assessoryaccessory

Sherman1864 on October 7, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Relax, he didn’t say HE thinks they are all these things. Only that a certain segment of the population does which I happen to disagree with but still understand what he meant.

jawkneemusic on October 7, 2011 at 4:53 PM

No he didn’t say a “certain segment of the population”, he said “people of all political stripes”, which is a much broader brush than you’re trying to suggest he used.

How is he projecting? You don’t know this person personally. I don’t agree with what he said but c’mon! He was only stating an opinion.

jawkneemusic on October 7, 2011 at 4:55 PM

I don’t know him personally… and neither do you (perhaps). So… why are you overtly trying to minimize what he actually said?

Midas on October 7, 2011 at 5:58 PM

As more and more media consumers recognize which news outlets deliver relevant information and which news outlets don’t, those that ignore truly newsworthy events or feign objectivity as a thin disguise for agenda advancement will become less and less, well, mainstream.

It’s already happening Tina. That’s another reason the MSM is so pissed off. Their bottom line is hurting. Hell, the NYT’s has to go – to of all places – Mexico, to find someone who will float them a loan. Let’em bunker down. It makes it a lot easier to spot those in the Talking Points echo chamber. It’s gotten so they only have to utter a few words and you already know the rest.

Oddly enough, it’s beginning to look like first blood will go to Solyndra rather than Fast and Furious. Odd, in that no one died in the Solyndra fiasco.

Wish the Attorney General of Mexico would start making noises. And am totally surprised their people aren’t up in arms.

GarandFan on October 7, 2011 at 6:02 PM

I like all of Rush’s fill-in hosts

listens2glenn on October 7, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Agree. I like it when he has guest hosts better than the big kahuna himself.

CW on October 7, 2011 at 6:06 PM

Why? Because Liberals obviously hate Brown people.

It’s the only explanation. It’s the same motive which drove a fine American named Alberto Gonzales out of the A.G.’s office several years ago.

And it’s why the Liberals don’t give a flip about a murderous scandal directed from the top down by the current corrupt A.G.: Liberals obviously hate Brown people.

It’s the only explanation.

locomotivebreath1901 on October 7, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Mark Steyn: Why the lack of MSM outrage at “dead Mexicans”?

Because the ends justify the means.

petefrt on October 7, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Mark Steyn: Why the lack of MSM outrage at “dead Mexicans”?

Because they aren’t Obama voters… Not yet, anyways…

I still say this is bigger than Watergate, and AG Holder is no John Mitchell!!

Khun Joe on October 7, 2011 at 6:54 PM

“Mexico allows it’s own citizens to be murdered for that purpose?”

Why not? They’ll allow them to cross a desert risking their lives to get into the US. They allow 35,000 of their own to be massacred over the past 2 years, making Mexico more dangerous that Iraq or Afghanistan! What they’re getting rid of from Mexico are the lower class that mean nothing to the elite in Mexico City….descendants of the Castillon caste of Spaniards.

Mexico could care less how many of it’s “citizens” are Executed. It’s always been lawless and corrupt…now they can’t hide how much of a out of control country they are.

Mexico being more dangerous than Afghanistan….it’s cartels more murderous than the Taliban….is where our troops need to be…on that 1200 mile border.

Twana on October 7, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Tina, escribalo Vd. otra vez en espanol, por favor! Really, isn’t there likely value in adding a Spanish translation of this post and others touching on “Fast and Furious,” as a courtesy to potential Mexican readers?

Marsili.us on October 7, 2011 at 7:14 PM

These are just really, really, late-term abortions.

Therefore, no conflict with the libtard pro-choice dogma.

roy_batty on October 7, 2011 at 8:28 PM

As more and more media consumers recognize which news outlets deliver relevant information and which news outlets don’t, those that ignore truly newsworthy events or feign objectivity as a thin disguise for agenda advancement will become less and less, well, mainstream.

Been past that point for a long, long time.

chickasaw42 on October 7, 2011 at 9:21 PM

Should conservatives really be pushing the meme that folks are dead because these guns were allowed to “walk.” I thought people kill people, not guns. Not saying this isn’t a scandal, but we shouldn’t accept what are essentially liberal view points on gun control in order to score points against the Obama administration.

Firefly_76 on October 7, 2011 at 9:39 PM

And I’m racist / nativist because I want a fence.

dont taze me bro on October 7, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Anderson Cooper covered it.

AshleyTKing on October 7, 2011 at 11:07 PM

I’m less optimistic. Only about half of Americans came name a GOP candidate. They are watching football or DWTS and only the MSM. They have no idea there are two major scandals in the administration.

I hate when pundits on the MSM say, “a Republican’s opinion would be …blah, blah, blah”. Why don’t they just ask a Republican?

HellCat on October 8, 2011 at 12:05 AM

The media regularly bombards us with “Oh poor Jesus & Maria” laments whenever someone is deported for being here illegally. We get featured installments with the sobbing Tia, the nephews and nieces, the cluck cluck cluck of neighbors, and on and on.

I have yet to see so much as an interview with any of the families of the over 200 Mexicans murdered by F&F. The outrage of the media is highly biased and highly selective.

DaMav on October 8, 2011 at 8:58 AM

@Firefly_76
People do kill people. And F&F delivered thousands of guns into the hands of those very people who kill others for criminal purpose, i.e. the drug cartels.

There is no contradiction here. Only the liberal stereotype of those in favor of Second Amendment rights attempts to paint us as supporting guns to criminals.

Here our own government facilitated the transfer of weapons to known criminals.

DaMav on October 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46714

doc zero is ON IT

ted c on October 8, 2011 at 9:12 AM

By Ken Ellingwood, Richard A. Serrano and Tracy Wilkinson, Los Angeles Times

Reporting from Mexico City and Washington — Last fall’s slaying of Mario Gonzalez, the brother of a Mexican state prosecutor, shocked people on both sides of the border. Sensational news reports revealed that cartel hit men had tortured Gonzalez, and forced him to make a videotaped “confession” that his high-powered sister was on the take.

But American authorities concealed one disturbing fact about the case from their Mexican counterparts: U.S. federal agents had allowed AK-47 assault rifles later found in the killers’ arsenal to be smuggled across the border under the notorious Fast and Furious gun-trafficking program.

ted c on October 8, 2011 at 9:14 AM

The MSM IMO does not really care about Mexicans or “minorities”, or truth & justice; what they really care about is having dominating influence on public opinion. They want to be molders of it and it is a great annoyance to the MSM powers that be that the internet has taken so much of their power away.

Chessplayer on October 8, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Maybe F&F was intended to increase illegal immigration to the U.S. by making Mexico even more dangerous.

An uptick in new “undocumented workers” would be seen as a new pool of Democrat voters, after all.

hawksruleva on October 7, 2011 at 4:05 PM

I’m glad you posted that. I’ve considered the same myself, and did so from the outset after initially hearing/reading about Fast and Furious.

It certainly seems LIKELY that that outcome is PART OF the incentive/s for Fast and Furious. Making Mexico “more violent” does, indeed, create or, rather, recreate, a qualifying condition whereby the Left could justify amnesty for illegal aliens from Mexico in the U.S.

Also, the ugliest scenario — even uglier than above mentioned — would be that Fast and Furious by increasing the arms available to the cartels (responsible FOR much of the violence in Mexico and Central America) (because drugs provide their money stream), that by increasing the arms available to the cartels, that *certain interests in the U.S.* are assisting them.

Lourdes on October 8, 2011 at 10:22 AM

Some of us remained confident the bloody mess and the stinking coverup were eventually going to unravel and kept on beating the drums until the story finally started getting some exposure. HA was pretty late to the story too, but better late than never…

novaculus on October 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Speaking for myself, I have withheld commenting on my site/s about this while waiting for more information to be revealed — at the very beginning, the immense importance and dreadfulness of this Fast and Furious mess was obvious, so caution in commenting seemed prudent. Don’t want to compound or cloud the information. Maybe that’s why this site (Hot Air) has also withheld commenting about it until recently.

Lourdes on October 8, 2011 at 10:25 AM

no one will endure any consequences…

Midas on October 7, 2011 at 4:30 PM

I dunno about anyone else, but I’m going to be royally steamed at Issa and others in Congress if they let up any heat on Holder and Obama on this ‘issue’. I think we’ve but heard the very tip of the continental shelf on this issue, and, that Issa and the rest have so far been extensively mild with Holder.

Obama’s refusal to appoint a Special Counsel (is that what it’s called) (term escapes me at this moment, sorry) to this issue is a very, very, very awful, if not decrepit, position for him to take and I do encourage Congress to do so anyway by whatever legitimate means is available to them.

Lourdes on October 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM

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