AP fact-check wonders if Obama bothers to listen

posted at 10:05 am on October 7, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

The Associated Press gives its usual fact-check follow-up to a Barack Obama speech, but in this case, it almost seems as if they’re puzzled about where to start.  In almost each bullet point, the AP response doesn’t just imply that Obama got his facts wrong but also hasn’t been paying much attention to the political debate around him.  For instance, Obama attempted to push back on calls to reverse the regulatory avalanche his administration has dumped on American business:

OBAMA: “The answer we’re getting right now is: Well, we’re going to roll back all these Obama regulations… Does anybody really think that that is going to create jobs right now and meet the challenges of a global economy?”

THE FACTS: Well, yes, some think it will.

Well, yes, a lot of people think it will — especially the small- to medium-sized businesses getting strangled in red tape.  Even Obama’s own “shovel-ready jobs” ended up with long delays thanks to regulations at federal and state levels.  ObamaCare and Dodd-Frank have added a blizzard of ill-defined, ambiguous new regulations and costs to businesses that slow or prevent expansion, innovation, and economic growth.  In fact, the people who say that now include many who warned that these initiatives would result in precisely the stagnation we see now.

The AP wasn’t impressed with Obama’s grasp of bipartisanship, either — or even his own party’s positions:

OBAMA: “Every idea that we’ve put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike.”

THE FACTS: Obama proposes to pay for his jobs bill by raising taxes, something traditionally opposed by Republicans and, in the form Obama proposed it, even some Democrats. Senate Democrats were so allergic to Obama’s approach, which relied largely on limiting deductions that can be taken by individuals making over $200,000 a year and couples making more than $250,000, that they’re eliminating it and replacing it with a new tax on millionaires.

Or, for that matter, his own policies:

OBAMA: “China has been very aggressive in gaming the trading system to its advantage and to the disadvantage of other countries, particularly the United States. …. And currency manipulation is one example of it, or at least intervening in the currency markets in ways that have led their currency to be valued lower than the market would normally dictate. And that makes their exports cheaper and that makes our exports to them more expensive.”

THE FACTS: While Obama complained about China’s efforts to keeps its currency undervalued to gain trade advantages, his administration has repeatedly refused to brand China as a currency manipulator in a report that the Treasury Department is required to send to Congress twice a year.

Instapundit quipped, “Upside for the White House: At least someone was listening.”  That someone sure isn’t the President.

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Why listen? He won.

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:08 AM

“Look, let me clear on this…..I just read what pops up here on these screens, so to say that I’m an idiot is misplaced.”

BobMbx on October 7, 2011 at 10:09 AM

+1 WN

cmsinaz on October 7, 2011 at 10:12 AM

Anyone besides me notice his jaw muscles twitch when he gets tense?

They were twitching often in that press conference.

MaxMBJ on October 7, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Why listen? He won.

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:08 AM

Thread Winner!!!!..:)

PS..And first to boot..:)

Dire Straits on October 7, 2011 at 10:14 AM

I just want to hear one reporter ask “Mr President, who controls the Senate?”

Limerick on October 7, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Of course PBHO listens, he just doesn’t hear.

Bishop on October 7, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Dire Straits on October 7, 2011 at 10:14 AM

I don’t think I’ve ever won a thread before. Are there prizes? Is there cake?

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Fact-checking this administration has created more jobs than the Stimulus package.

mankai on October 7, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Yeah all those really sweet EPA,CAFE,DOT regs really help my husband & I keep our trucking business profitable as a small fry.///////////////////////

Badger40 on October 7, 2011 at 10:18 AM

I don’t think I’ve ever won a thread before. Are there prizes? Is there cake?

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:16 AM

There are fabulous prizes, but Dire intercepts them and gives them to Bishop. He has to earn his bunker space.

katy the mean old lady on October 7, 2011 at 10:19 AM

“Mr President, how many former fat kids are there as a result of calorie counts on french fry bags?”

Limerick on October 7, 2011 at 10:20 AM

There are fabulous prizes, but Dire intercepts them and gives them to Bishop. He has to earn his bunker space.

katy the mean old lady on October 7, 2011 at 10:19 AM

I guess that makes sense. :-)

(PS. This place is so much more fun when you comment instead of lurking for years.)

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:21 AM

His ears are big but they don’t absorb because the narcissist fancies himself ‘superior’ to all other.

No one listens to him either any more. He has become a constant carricature. What he showed the kids is what he is now.

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2011 at 10:21 AM

AP is finally on to the interesting phenomena we here describe as the “Empty Suit” effect. As in, Obama is an empty suit. Even the lecture are starting to figure it out: maybe there is hope for America.

MTF on October 7, 2011 at 10:23 AM

That was “lefties”, not “lecture”- the iPad auto-correct is not Jobs’ greatest gift to mankind.

MTF on October 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM

You fools just keep winning threads so I can continue getting freebies.

Why just last week I got the complete collection of William Ayers books, signed by him no less, delivered to my bunker door by DS.

I’m keeping them as reserve toilet paper in case the Charmin runs out.

Bishop on October 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM

AP, what took you so long?

capejasmine on October 7, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Yeah all those really sweet EPA,CAFE,DOT regs really help my husband & I keep our trucking business profitable as a small fry.///////////////////////

Badger40 on October 7, 2011 at 10:18 AM

That “rule” on CO2 emissions that EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson imposed UNILATERALLY (i.e. without Congressional approval) on power plants and refineries has killed my employer’s bread-and-butter business…permitting power plants.

If I lose my job, I blame Obama ONLY–Congress had nothing to do with this–some Democrat Senators wisely voted against it in 2010.

Memo to Speaker John Boehner: There’s no budget yet for fiscal 2012, which began last Saturday. DE-FUND THE EPA NOW!!!

Steve Z on October 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Watch this President’s mouth when he talks he telegraphs with an easy to see liars smile.

Speakup on October 7, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Bishop on October 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM

You should at least get useful prizes… sandbags, canned goods, water purification tablets, ammunition, ammunition, ammunition…

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:30 AM

You should at least get useful prizes… sandbags, canned goods, water purification tablets, ammunition, ammunition, ammunition…

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:30 AM

He sells everything. That bunker? 14 rooms and a pool.

katy the mean old lady on October 7, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Steve Z on October 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Congress deserves plenty of blame for delegating lawmaking to unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats in the alphabet soup.

stvnscott on October 7, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Obama comes across as such a whiner with this new rhetoric. I always thought he was an overrated orator, but does Axelrod really think this new tone is a winner?

Daemonocracy on October 7, 2011 at 10:35 AM

Not listening. That sure sound like a narcissist to me. It’s odd how liberals cannot make the connection. They have 2 and add another 2, but somehow come up with 5.

jeffn21 on October 7, 2011 at 10:37 AM

doesn’t matter what he says or does, all his voting base is busy listening to NPR so they won’t hear the truth anyway. And they’d use pretzel logic to make it fit their Marxist ideology if they did hear a shred of truth.

kirkill on October 7, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Lol bishop :)

WN, this is a great crew

cmsinaz on October 7, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Mr. President, As a former community organizer, how would you rate the organizational skills of OWS?

I would have loved to have heard that question asked at yesterday’s presser.

herm2416 on October 7, 2011 at 10:40 AM

He sells everything. That bunker? 14 rooms and a pool.

katy the mean old lady on October 7, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Everything, huh? How about admission tickets.

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:42 AM

And currency manipulation is one example of it, or at least intervening in the currency markets in ways that have led their currency to be valued lower than the market would normally dictate. And that makes their exports cheaper and that makes our exports to them more expensive.

HA! As if Bammy understands a word of that. He’s like some bimbo newsreader.

Sharke on October 7, 2011 at 10:43 AM

Everything, huh? How about admission tickets.

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:42 AM

He has rules. Very greedy though. Make an offer.

katy the mean old lady on October 7, 2011 at 10:47 AM

He has rules. Very greedy though. Make an offer.

katy the mean old lady on October 7, 2011 at 10:47 AM

I won’t make him buy my own brand of health insurance.

That, or $5.

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Sounds like an extreme case of believing he can bend reality to his own vision. Even when he sees it’s not happening … or does he see? This is important, to understand the crux of his poor leadership. Spock would say … “fascinating”.

Paul-Cincy on October 7, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:30 AM

I think toilet paper is pretty useful:0)

Welcome, I am more of a lurker, with little time to post, but I come here nearly everyday to see what the gang here has to say.

It’s a smart, funny and irreverent group, you may fit right in.

Jvette on October 7, 2011 at 10:56 AM

HA! As if Bammy understands a word of that. He’s like some bimbo newsreader.

Sharke on October 7, 2011 at 10:43 AM

I seriously doubt he understands that Quantitative Easing is currency manipulation.

Daemonocracy on October 7, 2011 at 10:59 AM

Anyone besides me notice his jaw muscles twitch when he gets tense?

They were twitching often in that press conference.

MaxMBJ on October 7, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Isn’t that the sign of a genius trying to conceal his contempt of the rest of us? That’s a heavy burden for him. Another speech, another press conference, and the fools still don’t get it.

Drained Brain on October 7, 2011 at 10:59 AM

It’s a smart, funny and irreverent group, you may fit right in.

Jvette on October 7, 2011 at 10:56 AM

My kind of people.

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 11:00 AM

The “facts” are what the Obamassiah says they are. That way, The One, can never be wrong.

GarandFan on October 7, 2011 at 11:03 AM

I don’t think I’ve ever won a thread before. Are there prizes? Is there cake?

Washington Nearsider on October 7, 2011 at 10:16 AM

You not only had the thread winner, but it was the first reply. I think there’s a tear in the space/time continuum!

TugboatPhil on October 7, 2011 at 11:12 AM

Fact-checking this administration has created more jobs than the Stimulus package.

mankai on October 7, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Just think, it’s only recently that some in the media have decided to do their job and question this bully/nimrod/boy king. There could have been thousands more jobs if they were doing this from the beginning.

Jvette on October 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Wonder if we will have to pry Obama out of the White House come January 2013 like they did his buddy in Honduras. Now that would be unprecedented but certainly not … unexpected.

pdigaudio on October 7, 2011 at 11:17 AM

..also, apparently this piece of slime has no problem making up tear-jerking anecdotes in order to extort money from the tax payer and coerce the bleeding heart socialists into re-electing his sorry ass:

I — I had a chance to meet a young man named Robert Burrows (ph). He’s an English teacher in Boston who came to the White House a few weeks ago. And he’s got two decades of teaching experience. He’s got a master’s degree. He’s got an outstanding track record of helping his students make huge gains in reading and writing.

In the last few years, he’s received three pink slips because of budget cuts.

Why wouldn’t we want to pass a bill that puts somebody like Robert back in the classroom teaching our kids?

..although I have not tracked it down as yet, I heard on the radio this morning, that AP found out that Obama never met this guy and that he Burrows had not been pink-slipped three times and was gainfully employed.

Obama lied and [Steve] Jobs Died.
(Fact check that, AP!)

The War Planner on October 7, 2011 at 11:22 AM

He sells everything. That bunker? 14 rooms and a pool.

katy the mean old lady on October 7, 2011 at 10:32 AM

I have a bunker too! We call it a “fruit cellar”, One room, dirt floor, lots of shelves. It also has assorted canned goods, potatoes, garlic, onions, morral mushrooms, blankets, crank radio, propane lanterns, water and games. Heavy locking door. We thought it was for food storage and tornadoes….might be using for something else?

IowaWoman on October 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM

This just in: White House calls up, yells at AP fact-checker. Jay Carney to tell fact-checker to toughen up during Monday press briefing.

jon1979 on October 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM

Listening is for the little people.

AnotherOpinion on October 7, 2011 at 11:48 AM

That was “lefties”, not “lecture”- the iPad auto-correct is not Jobs’ greatest gift to mankind.

MTF on October 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM

In the Apple universe, there’s no such thing as “lefties”.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 7, 2011 at 11:48 AM

HA! As if Bammy understands a word of that. He’s like some bimbo newsreader.

Yup. Giggles = Ted Baxter.

Though I’d give a slight advantage in intelligence to Ted.

crazy_legs on October 7, 2011 at 12:29 PM

There could have been thousands more jobs if they were doing this from the beginning.

Don’t think so. Because the alternative was Hillary and she’s just as much of a Marxist as Giggles. And let’s face it, McCain was not going to win, given the campaign he was running and his not fighting back against the MSM painting him as the 3d term of the Bush Presidency.

crazy_legs on October 7, 2011 at 12:33 PM

Since when has Obama ever cared about telling the truth? Meanwhile everyone is so awed by the crease in his pants that it’s like they can’t actually believe he’s saying stupid and dishonest things and has done so all along. I have yet to see, in the public at large, any kind of reckoning with what a shyster he is.

I’m also skeptical that the MSM will put forth any real effort to expose him. Good on the AP for mildly reproving him in this case, but when it comes down to election time, they and the others will all toe the line and adulate like good little Obamaites.

evergreen on October 7, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Thank goodness someone listens to his speeches. If I see his face or hear his voice I turn off radio, tv, or whatever. Teleprompters are even starting to sicken me.

Herb on October 8, 2011 at 10:00 AM