So Holder ignored not one, not two, not three, but five memos about Fast and Furious?

posted at 1:25 pm on October 6, 2011 by Tina Korbe

It was never a comforting thought to think the Attorney General just can’t be bothered to read his weekly briefings, but it was at least plausible to think Eric Holder overlooked one or two memos about the pernicious and fatal Fast and Furious program. But make that five memos and the AG’s incompetence and negligence appear especially gross:

Senator Chuck Grassley and Congressman Darrell Issa today said that Attorney General Eric Holder received at least five weekly memos beginning in July 2010, including four weeks in a row, describing the ill-advised strategy known as Operation Fast and Furious. The memos were to Holder from Michael Walther, the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center.

The Attorney General told Issa during a House Judiciary Committee in May 2011 that he had just learned of Fast and Furious a few weeks before. Yet, on January 31, in a previously scheduled meeting, Grassley personally handed him two letters about Fast and Furious. Grassley and Issa said they find it very troubling that Holder actually knew of Operation Fast and Furious much earlier, and in greater detail than he ever let on.

The memos specifically said that the straw buyers were “responsible for the purchase of 1500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels.”

As Sen. Chuck Grassley said, given the amount of information Holder had at his disposal, he should have thought to at least ask the question, “Why haven’t we stopped them?”

The president said it well today in his press conference: “I think both Holder and I would have been very unhappy if someone had suggested that guns were allowed to pass through that could have been prevented by the United States of America.”

OK, so someone did suggest to Holder that guns were allowed to walk and Holder either overlooked the tip (as he claims, but for which he has no excuse) or didn’t care. Either way, he proves the president’s supposition wrong. Whether he was ignorant of or indifferent to the memos, the AG’s lack of concern is disturbing.


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WaPo had a story about F & F yesterday-many of the Democrat Kollege Kids who consider the WaPo as a truthful source of info say “No Big Deal”:

The Attorney General’s claims are not contradiced simply because he was informed that the program existed in 2010. If he did not know the particulars which made it problematic, Grassley and Issa are just fishing for something to hang on the Attorney General.

Two of the most right wing wierdos in Congress want the Attorney General pillored for allowing a sting operation having to do with illegal gun sales to continue. They would like to scare ATF and the Justice Department into avoiding issues concerning guns because it would get them rewards from the NRA. That’s why they continue to try to lay the scandal on the Attorney General when he said that he was unaware of the tactics being employed until recently.

Sting operations, which rightees love to death, are mostly attempts to make up for all the crimes for which law enforcement fails to investigate well enough to convict the perpetrators. That said, the sales of guns to Mexican criminal gangs has been going on without the help of the ATF for a long time, and right wing organizations’ paranoia about laws controlling the sales of guns are a big obstacle to having stopped it long, ago.

And the WaPo ranked this as one of their “Top Posts”.

Darrel Issa was a joke of a legislator in CA, and he’s a joke here. He ran a car alarm company, and has no idea what perjury is. The earlier memos related to the ATF’s discovery of the existing illegal trafficing through straw purchases. Holder’s testimony related to when he knew that the ATF began to condone and participate in the trafficing by directing gun dealers to allow the straw purchases to continue. If Issa had asked Holder when he first became aware that the ATF had discovered that Mexicans were buying guns in Phoenix, Holder would presumably have said “late last year.”

Del Dolemonte on October 6, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Time for the survivors of the Border Patrol agent murdered with F&F guns to file their “Bivens” suit against Holder and all agents at BATF who were involved. F&F was well beyond anything authorized by law. A “Bivens” suit can get past sovereign and law enforcement immunity and force Present-dent’s hand to either accept responsibility for what his administration has done or let the perps swing on their own–in which case they will likely drop the dime on their superiors. Maybe some felony convictions can follow. There’s sure enough one for perjury that needs to be filed in the DC District.

Ay Uaxe on October 6, 2011 at 6:54 PM

That stink you smell is coming from the White House…

Seven Percent Solution on October 6, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Obama said Holder has “indicated that he was not aware of what was happening in Fast and Furious.

Certainly, I [Obama] was not [aware].”

In other words he does not believe Holder . Certainly.

CW on October 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Whether he was ignorant of or indifferent to the memos, the AG’s lack of concern is disturbing.

Disturbing? How about criminally negligent?

AnonymousDrivel on October 6, 2011 at 7:37 PM

O/T…Maybe.

From over at AoS…The head ‘rat is up to something over the Senate.

Apparently this has developed so suddenly that the ‘rank-and-file’ ‘rats aren’t sure of which way to vote.

Once again, Reid is up to no good.

CPT. Charles on October 6, 2011 at 7:42 PM

CPT. Charles on October 6, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Dead Linkee

Del Dolemonte on October 6, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Five memos? That sounds bad.

Mr. Joe on October 6, 2011 at 7:54 PM

It’s so over

the laws are enforced as they see fit, therefore there are no laws

Sonosam on October 6, 2011 at 7:54 PM

The memos were to Holder from Michael Walther, the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center

It is absolutely racist for anyone to demand that the Attorney General do his job.

Morgan Freeman

TN Mom on October 6, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 6, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Heck, just go to Ace of Spades until somebody here at Hot Air wakes up an notices something is going on in the Senate.

BTW, apparently Reid has stripped away the rule to ‘offer amendments’ to bills.

That’s going work out real well when they lose the Senate in 2012.

CPT. Charles on October 6, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Anybody watching Hannity? Newt is turning into male Palin 2.0.

ProudPalinFan on October 6, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Fast and Furious is gonna bring this administration down. One more whistleblower and O is done.

ProudPalinFan on October 6, 2011 at 9:12 PM

the AG’s incompetence and negligence

Neither. The man is a scum sucking liar. Period.

infidel4life on October 6, 2011 at 9:21 PM

OT but now it’s been announced that the Feds are going to compel all the medicinal marijuana shops in Cali to close within 45 days. Guess they were cutting into the cartels’ profits. That sound you hear is the yoot vote exploding.

teacherman on October 6, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Q: How do you know a high level administration official is about to go?

A: When the President expresses ‘complete confidence’ in that individual.

It happens so often across so many administrations that there needs to be a rule of thumb made up about it.

ajacksonian on October 6, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Doctors often get sued for their pants/skirts if they don’t effectively communicate with patients. Easy lawsuit if a doctor ignores important data related to a patient’s health.

Here, Holder? Play stupid & assign his own ‘independent inspector’ to review the case. The worst he’ll get is to return to his $$$$$$$ salary at his old law firm.

He’ll never be held accountable.

Danny on October 6, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Senator Chuck Grassley and Congressman Darrell Issa today said that Attorney General Eric Holder received at least five weekly memos beginning in July 2010, including four weeks in a row, describing the ill-advised strategy known as Operation Fast and Furious.

Someone may want to check my math on the bolded part, but that’s 20 memos.

But, pfft, who hasn’t ignored 20 memos in a row at work? I mean seriously, they aren’t really that important. What to wear to the office, what not to wear, there’s a new security code to get into the building, software upgrades, policy changes, scheduled staff meetings, reminders about the fridge in the break room getting cleaned out every Friday afternoon. They don’t really contain anything important. And if someone asks, “Hey, did you see that memo?” you can just say something generic and play it off, like, “Yeah, can you believe that?”, or “Which memo? I’ve gotten like five today.”.

I mean, it’s not like they were about anything dangerous that would put people’s lives at stake…

…oh wait.

Left Coast Right Mind on October 6, 2011 at 10:12 PM

I think I have been pretty much absent on this controversy.

Why?

1) Obama won the white house without proving he was elegible, and no one called him on it in advance. Even conservatives do not respect the constitution any more.
2) Obama raised probably several tens of millions of dollars illegitimately from foreign sources as well as local sources that were paid without anyone being credited for those donations, through cash cards. It is like the Republicans could care less about our voting laws.
3) Black Panther voting thugs. Really? The Republicans do not care about voter intimidation either?
4) Obama pals with just about every anti-American person in the country and no one is willing to call him out on it? So the Republicans do not even care about winning the actual elections they are personally in.
5) Remember that Special Prosecutor Obama fired? Seriously? Nothing that could have been done about that?
6) Every single person hired for a permanent non political career in the Justice Department is a far left wing ideologue. There is absolutely nothing the Republicans could do to at least shed light on this for all of the Americans to see, let alone hold hearings and enforce the well known fact that politics is not supposed to be looked at when hiring for those positions?
7) The illegal “kinetic action” in Libya. Certainly against the law of the land and beyond his power to do. Any consequences?

I think Obama could send our Pacific Fleet into range of attack by China’s mainland, then launch a couple dozen fake intercontinental ballistic missiles at China, let the fleet get annihilated, not use our anti ballistic missile defenses as China launches several real Nuclear Warheads at our nation and still be above impeachment.

Does this even remotely rise to that level? So why are you even wasting your time?

astonerii on October 6, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Extradite Holder and Obama to Mexico to stand trial for mass murder. Or send them both to Nuremberg. At the very least they should have to attend the funerals of all the Mexicans they murdered.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 6, 2011 at 11:07 PM

describing the ill-advised strategy conspiracy to commit mass murder known as Operation Fast and Furious.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 6, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Someone should plant hundreds of crosses outside the White House to commemorate all those that Obama and Holder had murdered.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 6, 2011 at 11:13 PM

What happened here? Did Obama need a foursome?

unclesmrgol on October 6, 2011 at 11:28 PM

Its time to play COWBOYS & COMMUNISTS… New vid from the Conservative Caped Crusader… the hillbilly ninja… Joe Dan. Crank it.

deedtrader on October 6, 2011 at 11:36 PM

Its time to play COWBOYS & COMMUNISTS… New vid from the Conservative Caped Crusader… the hillbilly ninja… Joe Dan. Crank it.

deedtrader on October 6, 2011 at 11:36 PM

Cowboys and Muslims would be much better.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on October 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM

Does this even remotely rise to that level? So why are you even wasting your time?

astonerii on October 6, 2011 at 10:44 PM

You so called this one right.

arnold ziffel on October 7, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Holder is a purgerer. All Republicans in Congress need to get together to get this guy out of there and into Club Fed where he belongs.

Really Right on October 7, 2011 at 12:27 AM

Like Lebron said; not 1…not 2…not 3…not 4…

The Notorious G.O.P on October 7, 2011 at 12:35 AM

I mean, it’s not like they were about anything dangerous that would put people’s lives at stake…

…oh wait.

Left Coast Right Mind on October 6, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Say you’re the Attorney General, reading weekly memos, and an op named FAST AND FURIOUS crosses your eyeballs.

Your Political Radar doesn’t go off with – WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ???

Oh they all knew. What amateurs names anything something like this anyway?

The whole town is a cess pool.

Jimmy Doolittle on October 7, 2011 at 3:59 AM

How did it get named fast and furious. I know there is a car movie with that name, but did they plan from the beginning to lose control, because that is really an out of control name.

petunia on October 7, 2011 at 4:59 AM

From the O’Reilly interview last night with the CBS reporter, Sharyl Atkisson:

O’REILLY: … So what do you think lit that fuse?

ATTKISSON: Well, I would say there have been some pretty incredible developments in the past week. Also, documents we haven’t even had time to report on all of them. They are very sensitive documents and allegations going around. Many of them we haven’t reported yet because we need to get more confirmation of them.

But what you see on the surface that we do report in our stories is really only a part of what may be going on and we may be reporting the future when we can get confirmation….

O’REILLY: Ok. In your opinion, is this a big story or is it just a little story? Is it big is it going to lead to perhaps a resignation by the Attorney General? Is President Obama going to be embarrassed? Is it that big?

ATTKISSON: I have no idea about that. But there is no doubt that what we already know. And what we’ve already reported on I think is incredibly important and it’s an incredibly major story that we’ve only — that we’ve really have a lot more to learn about.
[Emphasis mine]

Tip of the iceberg?

petefrt on October 7, 2011 at 6:07 AM

CBS Reporter: More Revelations to Come on Holder

CBS investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson, the journalist who has been uncovering many secrets in the burgeoning Fast and Furious scandal, told Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly Thursday night that there may be many more shoes to drop in the unfolding drama.

“It’s an incredibly major story that we have a lot more to learn about,” Attkisson said.

“Also documents, we haven’t really had time to report on all of them,” she added. “There are a lot of sensitive docuemnts and allegations going around, many of them we haven’t reported yet because we need to get more confirmation of them. But what you see on the surface that we do report in our stories is really only a part of what may be going on and we may be reporting in the future when we can get confirmation.”

petefrt on October 7, 2011 at 6:12 AM

Today’s CBS-Gate: The Rest Of The Story

O’Reilly did not broach the nationally-reported allegation that CBS has tried to silence Attkisson, which was probably pre-agreed in exchange for her TV interview. Attkisson’s appearance was clearly calculated by CBS to give the network cover after reports by The Weekly Standard that CBS was clamping down on Attkisson.

Meanwhile, apparently Ms. Attkisson is STILL terribly busy, as she was not able to personally return The Kitchen Cabinet’s phone call this morning as she said she would. Instead, guess who, CBS News Senior Vice President of Communications Sonya McNair called to let us know that SHE would be handling Ms. Attkisson’s calls.

Free speech isn’t so free at CBS News it seems.

petefrt on October 7, 2011 at 6:19 AM

I’ll make this easy for those still wanting to defend Holder.

1. He is a bad attorney.

2. He is even a worse liar.

3. He knew, not because the facts say he did, but because of what Obama said was going on.

Remember during the same time period as F&F Obama kept laying low on the issue of gun rights. When confronted by anti-gunners, he said for them to be patient because his administration was “working on something.”

What was that “something?” Since nothing else showed up but the lame release of the new gun regulations via ATF/DOJ covering new purchasing/recording rules, the obvious answer was that Obama and Holder were planning a huge roll out, like was attempted several years ago, showing how our gun dealers were selling murder weapons to Mexico. That would justify all sorts of legislation, like a new assault weapons ban. Unfortunately for them, the scheme was discovered before the roll out. They did it anyway, but they were caught. Notice there is no Democratic legislation pending of any merit. Why? Nobody is going to touch this until they figure out who is going to jail and who is going to get fired.

What you all have witnessed is what is a real life GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY involving government agencies and the President. Unlike the movies, it proves what us in government have said for years- “we suck at it.” The difference this time is instead of getting kids killed in Texas (Waco), the government got their own people killed and hundreds of more in Mexico.

Who says Liberals can’t get better over time?? Thank God, the House went Republican, or we would never get to the bottom of this. And we may not still. DOJ is stonewalling. So did Nixon.

archer52 on October 7, 2011 at 7:23 AM

From another thread:

9 US Sheriffs Announce Press Conference to Call for Holder’s Resignation (Video) http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/9-us-sheriffs-announce-press-conference-to-call-for-holders-resignation-video/ via @gatewaypundit

andy85719 on October 7, 2011 at 1:07 AM

petefrt on October 7, 2011 at 7:25 AM

archer52 on October 7, 2011 at 7:23 AM

Right F&F was intended to soften up the public for gun control measures, not the least of which is the UN’s Small Arms Treaty that’s in the pipeline. Rand Paul writes:

Gun-grabbers around the globe believe they have it made.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton recently announced the Obama Administration will be working hand-in-glove with the UN to pass a new “Small Arms Treaty.”

Disguised as an “International Arms Control Treaty” to fight against “terrorism,” “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates,” the UN’s Small Arms Treaty is in fact a massive, GLOBAL gun control scheme.

If passed by the UN and ratified by the U.S. Senate, the UN “Small Arms Treaty” would almost certainly FORCE the United States to:

*** Enact tougher licensing requirements, making law-abiding Americans cut through even more bureaucratic red tape just to own a firearm legally;

*** CONFISCATE and DESTROY ALL “unauthorized” civilian firearms (all firearms owned by the government are excluded, of course);

*** BAN the trade, sale and private ownership of ALL semi-automatic weapons;

*** Create an INTERNATIONAL gun registry, setting the stage for full-scale gun CONFISCATION.

I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that this is NOT a fight we can afford to lose.

petefrt on October 7, 2011 at 7:31 AM

When the heat gets close enough to Obama that he can feel it, Holder will be sacrificed. Right now he’s being protected because he knows how all the dots are connected. I’m guessing the plan to destroy his credibility and make him full owner of these crimes is already on paper, just waiting to be implemented.

SKYFOX on October 7, 2011 at 7:53 AM

‘Furious’ mess has Justice in full panic

A trial balloon has reportedly been floated within Justice to essentially eliminate the ATF by firing 450 agents and transferring the embattled agency’s duties to the Drug Enforcement Administration and the FBI.

petefrt on October 7, 2011 at 8:14 AM

What?

Holder has not resigned yet?

Must be some sort of coward.

coldwarrior on October 7, 2011 at 8:17 AM

Barack Obama Installs A “Death Panel” After All

It turns out that despite his protestations last year that he’d never implement “Death Panels” of elitists who decide whether or not American citizens should die, President Barack Obama has gone ahead and done just that. There is a actually a Death Panel that meets to decide whether an American citizen should die. It operates in secret without any public record. It is not accountable for its actions under the law.

The conservatives had just guessed the wrong department.

Spathi on October 7, 2011 at 8:32 AM

O’Reilly did not broach the nationally-reported allegation that CBS has tried to silence Attkisson, which was probably pre-agreed in exchange for her TV interview. Attkisson’s appearance was clearly calculated by CBS to give the network cover after reports by The Weekly Standard that CBS was clamping down on Attkisson.

Meanwhile, apparently Ms. Attkisson is STILL terribly busy, as she was not able to personally return The Kitchen Cabinet’s phone call this morning as she said she would. Instead, guess who, CBS News Senior Vice President of Communications Sonya McNair called to let us know that SHE would be handling Ms. Attkisson’s calls.

Free speech isn’t so free at CBS News it seems.

If CBS really clamps down on Ms. Attkisson, she could probably find another job with Fox News next to former CBSer Bernie Goldberg.

Steve Z on October 7, 2011 at 9:28 AM

I expect Holder will fall on his sword for Obama and resign soon. I also expect this will be done to protect Obama from blame even though I believe Obama knew about this as well.

Carl on October 7, 2011 at 11:03 AM

5) Remember that Special Prosecutor Obama fired?

astonerii on October 6, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Who appointed a special prosecutor during this administration? Anyone? At all???

I think you mean Inspector General Gerald Walpin. Not that I’d expect you to respect him enough to bother googling his name, especially after the disrespect shown here….

People like you should get no vote.

astonerii on October 4, 2011 at 11:58 AM

Apologize.

runawayyyy on October 7, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Looks to me like the ruckus society (small ‘r’, small ‘s’) overplayed this one.

Rules for Radicals requires that when you instigate chaos, you must make appropriate noise about ‘the good of society’ to cover your instigation

As long as Holder is investigating himself, effectively, he’ll survive, but some chumps down the ladder will what. get reassigned? Luckily for Holder, he gets investigated by the Senate. Life is good said the rat to the cheese

The one reason to visit DC is to go to the Lincoln memorial, wring your hands and hope for a moral revival. Without a healthy fear of the Lord, it ain’t going to happen

Only the tea party sustains me. Suggested reading, Wayne Jett: The Fruits of Graft. No need to read Alinsky, he’s in the WH

entagor on October 7, 2011 at 1:56 PM

5) Remember that Special Prosecutor Obama fired?

astonerii on October 6, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Who appointed a special prosecutor during this administration? Anyone? At all???

I think you mean Inspector General Gerald Walpin. Not that I’d expect you to respect him enough to bother googling his name, especially after the disrespect shown here….

People like you should get no vote.

astonerii on October 4, 2011 at 11:58 AM

Apologize.

runawayyyy on October 7, 2011 at 1:29 PM

You really have lost your mind. You are obsessed, aren’t you? It is kind of weird having a cyber-stalker here on Hot Air.

I guess it goes along with your mental state though. I said should. Obama actually killed a man. You think taking all of a man’s constitutional rights away from him in actuality is a far superior action than stating that someone abusing their rights through negligence is appallingly horrid.

That is right America. runawayyyy thinks that your Constitutional rights are negotiable and are based upon the whims of government. That the government is allowed to take them away from you without due process. With no law authorizing, with no rules limiting, with no checks and no balances to that power, a government official can place you on a hit list for death.

This is the same government that has said that Muslim terrorists are not terrorists, but that American Tea Party people are terrorists, that people leaving the military are terrorists, that people who go to church regularly are terrorists. runawayyyy thinks that the government should have the power to strip all these people and more of their constitutional protections and place them on a hit list for death.

Apologize runawayyyy.

astonerii on October 7, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Eric WithHolder has two possibilities.

1. He’s a liar.

2. He’s a moron.

Sorry Eric, either you’re totally stupid or you’re lying.

(maybe both)

gordo on October 7, 2011 at 6:56 PM

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